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Post by stanton1969 on Dec 29, 2023 22:53:11 GMT 1
Not felt so robbed by a ref in a long while. Blood boiling coming away from the ground, every key decision their way bar the dive. And every soft one their way too. Absolute cheating bastard. That result had NOTHING to do with the referee. Nothing Except for at least 1 penalty we weren’t awarded at a crucial point? Of course we need a couple more decent players….but the right decisions tonight by the ref and we’d have earned a point.
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Post by zmann on Dec 29, 2023 22:54:08 GMT 1
Wiles passenger for 85 minutes. Either Moore is blind or our bench is worse.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Dec 29, 2023 22:54:43 GMT 1
Ben Wiles.... yikes. What a fucking awful signing He just seems a yard off it all the time, I put it down to him being unfit or playing too much, but doensn't seem to change. Doesn't seem to come and want the ball, tackle or put in a killer pass, just goes through the motions. Not sure what to think of him currently. Seems nuts we’re still talking about his fitness months after signing him. Concerning
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2023 22:54:55 GMT 1
Ben Wiles.... yikes. What a fucking awful signing He just seems a yard off it all the time, I put it down to him being unfit or playing too much, but doensn't seem to change. Doesn't seem to come and want the ball, tackle or put in a killer pass, just goes through the motions. Not sure what to think of him currently. He's not fit enough to be a pro athlete. Simple as that.
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Post by trotsky on Dec 29, 2023 22:55:26 GMT 1
So the ref not giving an obvious pen for us before they break away and score, then giving them a pen from a dive and they score from the resulting corner. That's down to us not having a decent squad? Ok.
Doesn't help no, but the fact we had the better of the game regardless of penalty shouts but couldn’t capitalise due to players being flat out on their arse at 70 mins is the reason. Ok
In other words, you can't blame Darren Moore for this defeat so you and several others are forced to clutch your straws and blame Dean Hoyle.
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Post by stanton1969 on Dec 29, 2023 22:55:49 GMT 1
Wiles is obviously a good player. But his engine is a couple of cylinders down. Either that or it’s his appetite for the game. Either way, I’d rather have someone who can at least run and get there when they need to.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 29, 2023 22:56:44 GMT 1
They say you score once every 96 corners or something like that.
For them to miss a penalty and then the player who missed that penalty to score from the resulting corner is terrible luck.
Really impressed with Headley today. He's not really pushed on this season after breaking through but much improved the last two games
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 29, 2023 22:56:46 GMT 1
An entertaining match we didn't deserve to lose.
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Post by harris on Dec 29, 2023 22:56:50 GMT 1
Not felt so robbed by a ref in a long while. Blood boiling coming away from the ground, every key decision their way bar the dive. And every soft one their way too. Absolute cheating bastard. That result had NOTHING to do with the referee. Nothing Handball for us at 0-0? Every single soft foul including 2 or 3 in their box as we nicked it? Their lad horizontal dive for the pen? We were the better team there, and if the ref did his job, we get a result. Fact.
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Post by Terry Jacko on Dec 29, 2023 22:56:59 GMT 1
Wednesday players loved Moore, our players are working their balls off for him, its the most important attribute you want in a manger first and foremost, we need to give him some backing now.
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Post by trotsky on Dec 29, 2023 22:57:09 GMT 1
That result had NOTHING to do with the referee. Nothing Except for at least 1 penalty we weren’t awarded at a crucial point? Of course we need a couple more decent players….but the right decisions tonight by the ref and we’d have earned a point.
Save your breath mate. They can't spit their dummy out at DM tonight so they have to find some other reason.
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Post by harris on Dec 29, 2023 22:57:13 GMT 1
Wiles passenger for 85 minutes. Either Moore is blind or our bench is worse. Wiles was fantastic. And he was the reason we scored.
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Post by wigster on Dec 29, 2023 22:57:34 GMT 1
Doesn't help no, but the fact we had the better of the game regardless of penalty shouts but couldn’t capitalise due to players being flat out on their arse at 70 mins is the reason. Ok In other words, you can't blame Darren Moore for this defeat so you and several others are forced to clutch your straws and blame Dean Hoyle.
Darren Moore to blame/praise for tactics/performances - Hoyle totally to blame for the squad and state of the club.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Dec 29, 2023 22:57:35 GMT 1
A tremendous effort tonight. Sometimes football is just cruel
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Dec 29, 2023 22:58:07 GMT 1
He just seems a yard off it all the time, I put it down to him being unfit or playing too much, but doensn't seem to change. Doesn't seem to come and want the ball, tackle or put in a killer pass, just goes through the motions. Not sure what to think of him currently. He's not fit enough to be a pro athlete. Simple as that. It appears he hasn't recovered from the serious injury he sustained last season at Rotherham which begs the question how did he pass a medical? There again, we signed Simpson and Knockhert who were injured when they signed
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Post by Uddersfield on Dec 29, 2023 22:58:42 GMT 1
Great entertainment tonight. That was a kick in the teeth big time.
Better team lost.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2023 22:58:50 GMT 1
Wednesday players loved Moore, our players are working their balls off for him, its the most important attribute you want in a manger first and foremost, we need to give him some backing now. Totally agree he's got the players on his side.
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Post by clydeshalfarm on Dec 29, 2023 23:00:07 GMT 1
Enjoyed watching last two games more attacking intent few quality additions and we can kick on and be safe lower mid table.
Over to you Mr Cartwright and Mr Nagle please back us with some decent additions.
Feel a lot more optimistic now we aren’t just sitting back
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Post by E4b on Dec 29, 2023 23:00:32 GMT 1
Good effort from Sorba, Koroma, Headley & Chapman. Lack of effort/ability from Wiles, Rudoni and Nakayama. Pity as Boro were there for the taking tonight.
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Post by wigster on Dec 29, 2023 23:00:46 GMT 1
That result had NOTHING to do with the referee. Nothing Handball for us at 0-0? Every single soft foul including 2 or 3 in their box as we nicked it? Their lad horizontal dive for the pen? We were the better team there, and if the ref did his job, we get a result. Fact. "Fact" - please use the word properly. Are you genuinely saying that it wasn't a penalty ? There's an argument that we could have had a penalty certainly. Otherwise I thought the referee had a good game. Opinion.
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Post by calken on Dec 29, 2023 23:01:00 GMT 1
DM does appear to be getting a tune out of what has to be the weakest town squad I have seen in donkey's years. Some of the movement and passing tonight was great but as mentioned by many, we couldn't maintain it, the squad is just too thin.
I'm pleased for Darren and the squad, hopefully, they won't take this defeat too hard and reflect on what I thought was a great performance.
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Post by jakeg on Dec 29, 2023 23:01:48 GMT 1
Hate to lose but can't really have any complaints tonight. Great to see the pressing and the link up play. God doesn't the team look 100% better with rudoni in it?
Really willing in attack...Thomas in free play was excellent in that unusual role for him. Headley just really settling into the role.
50/50 game really....either team could have won but I'm much encouraged the last two games. Just a shame through depth and injuries that we have nothing much on the bench.
Special mention to Chapman. Great debut....should be proud. Fabulous penalty save and looked generally assured.
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Post by harris on Dec 29, 2023 23:02:08 GMT 1
Handball for us at 0-0? Every single soft foul including 2 or 3 in their box as we nicked it? Their lad horizontal dive for the pen? We were the better team there, and if the ref did his job, we get a result. Fact. "Fact" - please use the word properly. Are you genuinely saying that it wasn't a penalty ? There's an argument that we could have had a penalty certainly. Otherwise I thought the referee had a good game. Opinion. Watch this and tell me how their lad is horizontal with two legs into wiles from him just standing there. The ref was absolutely gash. We did not deserve to lose in any world.
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Dec 29, 2023 23:03:50 GMT 1
In other words, you can't blame Darren Moore for this defeat so you and several others are forced to clutch your straws and blame Dean Hoyle.
Darren Moore to blame/praise for tactics/performances - Hoyle totally to blame for the squad and state of the club. Hoyle to blame for saving us from administration last season you mean?
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Post by jakeg on Dec 29, 2023 23:04:05 GMT 1
Good effort from Sorba, Koroma, Headley & Chapman. Lack of effort/ability from Wiles, Rudoni and Nakayama. Pity as Boro were there for the taking tonight. Agree on the first four. Don't agree for different reasons on the others. Rudoni makes us tick and links play...is available...is the heartbeat. Nakayama did well apart from losing the man once. Wiles shows flashes but need more from him.
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Post by tepidterrier on Dec 29, 2023 23:04:52 GMT 1
They're trying. Effort is never lacking, quality is starting to show in parts with some really good individual performances. Just ran out of steam due to lack of squad depth, not for the first time this season.
For the first time in a while I think we'll be fine this season with a few additions.
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Post by rockwall on Dec 29, 2023 23:05:15 GMT 1
Wiles passenger for 85 minutes. Either Moore is blind or our bench is worse. Wiles was fantastic. And he was the reason we scored. The new scapegoat, wasn't any worse than the others. Not one player can be criticised tonight. The referee though was obviously a United Fan in love with Carrick. Stonewall handball which I don't understand how it wasn't seen. And then a dive.
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Post by Kenny irons on Dec 29, 2023 23:05:57 GMT 1
Tough pill to swallow that one
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Post by rockwall on Dec 29, 2023 23:06:28 GMT 1
Handball for us at 0-0? Every single soft foul including 2 or 3 in their box as we nicked it? Their lad horizontal dive for the pen? We were the better team there, and if the ref did his job, we get a result. Fact. "Fact" - please use the word properly. Are you genuinely saying that it wasn't a penalty ? There's an argument that we could have had a penalty certainly. Otherwise I thought the referee had a good game. Opinion. Wum
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Dec 29, 2023 23:06:53 GMT 1
Not felt so robbed by a ref in a long while. Blood boiling coming away from the ground, every key decision their way bar the dive. And every soft one their way too. Absolute cheating bastard. That result had NOTHING to do with the referee. Nothing Have you seen the penalty decision? I can only presume not.
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