Tiro
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Post by Tiro on Dec 29, 2023 23:07:44 GMT 1
Well, I can’t fault a man tonight. Nor DM. Sorba was a man possessed. I’m gutted we didn’t take a point - it’s more than we deserved.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 29, 2023 23:08:11 GMT 1
Good effort from Sorba, Koroma, Headley & Chapman. Lack of effort/ability from Wiles, Rudoni and Nakayama. Pity as Boro were there for the taking tonight. Harsh on Rudoni. He played well again. We're a much better side with him in it
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Post by htfcfcfc on Dec 29, 2023 23:08:32 GMT 1
Darren Moore to blame/praise for tactics/performances - Hoyle totally to blame for the squad and state of the club. Hoyle to blame for saving us from administration last season you mean? Who were we in debt to?
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Dec 29, 2023 23:08:55 GMT 1
Good effort from Sorba, Koroma, Headley & Chapman. Lack of effort/ability from Wiles, Rudoni and Nakayama. Pity as Boro were there for the taking tonight. Harsh on Rudoni. He played well again. We're a much better side with him in it I thought Rudoni was very good tonight
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Post by harris on Dec 29, 2023 23:09:13 GMT 1
Wiles was fantastic. And he was the reason we scored. The new scapegoat, wasn't any worse than the others. Not one player can be criticised tonight. The referee though was obviously a United Fan in love with Carrick. Stonewall handball which I don't understand how it wasn't seen. And then a dive. 2-1 to the referee. Absolutely robbed and it’s ok to say that, players and Moore deserved something from that game.
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Post by richhtfc on Dec 29, 2023 23:09:34 GMT 1
Disappointed but feel like we’ve had a few of those type of games go for us this year, this one didn’t. It does prove that we have some good players who can compete at this level, but we desperately need some quality recruits to bolster us.
That said some great performances tonight, thought Koroma, Sorba and Headley particularly were class and on another night we win that.
Edit: what was that Howson celebration? What a prick
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Post by kennyk2 on Dec 29, 2023 23:09:47 GMT 1
They say you score once every 96 corners or something like that. For them to miss a penalty and then the player who missed that penalty to score from the resulting corner is terrible luck. Really impressed with Headley today. He's not really pushed on this season after breaking through but much improved the last two games Almost. From The Numbers Game... the chance from scoring from a corner is 2%. That's why Barcelona hardly ever put a corner into the box. These data were taken from research done across the 5 main leagues in Europe. Strange how the crowd always get excited when their team gets a corner.
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Post by Tiro on Dec 29, 2023 23:09:47 GMT 1
Good effort from Sorba, Koroma, Headley & Chapman. Lack of effort/ability from Wiles, Rudoni and Nakayama. Pity as Boro were there for the taking tonight. Harsh on Rudoni. He played well again. We're a much better side with him in it I thought Howson did a job on Rudoni tonight. He was improved second half, but not his best. Still, I don’t think he was poor. I thought Wiles was much improved, and much of what we did well went through him. Both put in a big shift. There’s no lack of ability in any of those four.
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Post by E4b on Dec 29, 2023 23:10:14 GMT 1
Good effort from Sorba, Koroma, Headley & Chapman. Lack of effort/ability from Wiles, Rudoni and Nakayama. Pity as Boro were there for the taking tonight. Agree on the first four. Don't agree for different reasons on the others. Rudoni makes us tick and links play...is available...is the heartbeat. Nakayama did well apart from losing the man once. Wiles shows flashes but need more from him. Watch the match again. Rudoni either lost the ball or was easily brushed aside all night long and a lot of the time looked like he couldn’t give a toss. I was paying particular attention to him tonight as I still don’t think he’s championship standard. Tonight he was dire. Nakayama is a liability and I have yet to see him have a good game. Wiles is another let down, can’t believe Warnock had anything to do with his signing.
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Post by drumriggend on Dec 29, 2023 23:11:51 GMT 1
Robbed..
Great effort all round..
Well played town..
Thoroughly enjoyed the game but not the result..
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Dec 29, 2023 23:12:44 GMT 1
Tonight was a very, very good performance abd we did not deserve to lose. Soft opening goal (Yuta should just put it in the stands) and never a penalty, which led directly to the winner.
Press was great. Tempo was great. Sorba outstanding. Rudoni very very good.
Wiles looks good in moments, and way off it in others.
My only question would be where has this impetus been?
If we add two or three first team starters in the key positions we all know we need to strengthen, and play like this for the rest of the season, we'll stay up.
Big if though. Promising signs, but for me DM has gone from nowhere near good enough to the jury is out.
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Post by rockwall on Dec 29, 2023 23:13:04 GMT 1
Agree on the first four. Don't agree for different reasons on the others. Rudoni makes us tick and links play...is available...is the heartbeat. Nakayama did well apart from losing the man once. Wiles shows flashes but need more from him. Watch the match again. Rudoni either lost the ball or was easily brushed aside all night long and a lot of the time looked like he couldn’t give a toss. I was paying particular attention to him tonight as I still don’t think he’s championship standard. Tonight he was dire. Nakayama is a liability and I have yet to see him have a good game. Wiles is another let down, can’t believe Warnock had anything to do with his signing. Can't have watched him that well then. Did you miss the times when he won the ball in the corner twice using his body?
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Post by nicovaesen on Dec 29, 2023 23:13:04 GMT 1
Handball for us at 0-0? Every single soft foul including 2 or 3 in their box as we nicked it? Their lad horizontal dive for the pen? We were the better team there, and if the ref did his job, we get a result. Fact. "Fact" - please use the word properly. Are you genuinely saying that it wasn't a penalty ? There's an argument that we could have had a penalty certainly. Otherwise I thought the referee had a good game. Opinion. We’ve had better penalty shouts turned down is a counter argument there player goes down very easily
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Dec 29, 2023 23:13:42 GMT 1
Agree on the first four. Don't agree for different reasons on the others. Rudoni makes us tick and links play...is available...is the heartbeat. Nakayama did well apart from losing the man once. Wiles shows flashes but need more from him. Watch the match again. Rudoni either lost the ball or was easily brushed aside all night long and a lot of the time looked like he couldn’t give a toss. I was paying particular attention to him tonight as I still don’t think he’s championship standard. Tonight he was dire. Nakayama is a liability and I have yet to see him have a good game. Wiles is another let down, can’t believe Warnock had anything to do with his signing. Utter bollocks
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Post by harris on Dec 29, 2023 23:13:56 GMT 1
"Fact" - please use the word properly. Are you genuinely saying that it wasn't a penalty ? There's an argument that we could have had a penalty certainly. Otherwise I thought the referee had a good game. Opinion. We’ve had better penalty shouts turned down is a counter argument there player goes down very easily We had a better shout turned down at 0-0 about 30 mins earlier
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Post by harris on Dec 29, 2023 23:14:37 GMT 1
We’ve had better penalty shouts turned down is a counter argument there player goes down very easily We had a better shout turned down at 0-0 about 30 mins earlier Fairly sure it was the same ref tonight that gave the soft pen dive to Dan James on Boxing Day also. These refs make mistake after mistake and carry on being classed as ‘elite’
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Post by E4b on Dec 29, 2023 23:14:38 GMT 1
Good effort from Sorba, Koroma, Headley & Chapman. Lack of effort/ability from Wiles, Rudoni and Nakayama. Pity as Boro were there for the taking tonight. Harsh on Rudoni. He played well again. We're a much better side with him in it Watch the match again and tell me how many times he gives possession away or watches Boro players bypass him with absolutely no effort put in. Most overrated player by a mile. He scored a couple of goals this season but with more effort or ability he could and should have put more of the simple chances away.
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Post by Tiro on Dec 29, 2023 23:14:38 GMT 1
We’ve had better penalty shouts turned down is a counter argument there player goes down very easily We had a better shout turned down at 0-0 about 30 mins earlier We will never win a penalty.
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Post by E4b on Dec 29, 2023 23:15:52 GMT 1
Watch the match again. Rudoni either lost the ball or was easily brushed aside all night long and a lot of the time looked like he couldn’t give a toss. I was paying particular attention to him tonight as I still don’t think he’s championship standard. Tonight he was dire. Nakayama is a liability and I have yet to see him have a good game. Wiles is another let down, can’t believe Warnock had anything to do with his signing. Utter bollocks Watch the match again and you will see. A massive let down tonight.
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Post by Tiro on Dec 29, 2023 23:17:01 GMT 1
Watch the match again and you will see. A massive let down tonight. You maybe wanna check the room.
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Dec 29, 2023 23:17:08 GMT 1
Watch the match again and you will see. A massive let down tonight. I don't need to watch it again. I've already watched it. Rudoni was fine. 7/10. Wiles was 6/10. Some good some bad
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Post by aksaiblue on Dec 29, 2023 23:17:27 GMT 1
Well done Town. We deserved to win that tonight.
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Post by jakeg on Dec 29, 2023 23:17:29 GMT 1
Agree on the first four. Don't agree for different reasons on the others. Rudoni makes us tick and links play...is available...is the heartbeat. Nakayama did well apart from losing the man once. Wiles shows flashes but need more from him. Watch the match again. Rudoni either lost the ball or was easily brushed aside all night long and a lot of the time looked like he couldn’t give a toss. I was paying particular attention to him tonight as I still don’t think he’s championship standard. Tonight he was dire. Nakayama is a liability and I have yet to see him have a good game. Wiles is another let down, can’t believe Warnock had anything to do with his signing. Respect your opinion but completely disagree on rudoni. I don't need to watch the game again as I had my eyes open the first time. He's been asked to perform lots of different roles over the last 16 months....this one is more about linking the way and providing threat. He did that. I honestly cannot believe you don't think he is championship quality. He's easily that and look at the difference he's made since coming back from injury. I suspect he's a big reason why DM appears to have taken the shackles off the last couple of games. All about opinions I guess. But my eyes see a very good player there.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Dec 29, 2023 23:18:18 GMT 1
He’s earned a lot of respect tonight Moore, which is weird to say after a defeat. I dare say it was reminiscent of Wagner’s first few games, where you could see what we were trying to do we just didn’t have the personnel for it.
Sorba though, take a bloody bow. An outrageously good performance. I’ve knocked him previously but at the moment when Hogg leaves I want him to be given the armband. He is a leading example to the rest of them.
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Post by harris on Dec 29, 2023 23:18:30 GMT 1
We had a better shout turned down at 0-0 about 30 mins earlier We will never win a penalty. Millwall away aside, refs are so quick to give pens against us but so reluctant to give them to us. Been the same for years.
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Post by ilsonterrier on Dec 29, 2023 23:20:38 GMT 1
We had a better shout turned down at 0-0 about 30 mins earlier Fairly sure it was the same ref tonight that gave the soft pen dive to Dan James on Boxing Day also. These refs make mistake after mistake and carry on being classed as ‘elite’ I didn't realise it wasn't the original scheduled referee tonight but I thought I knew the name, despite the fact that he's only done a few Championship games (why do we seem to be getting all the new refs at our level?). He did the Derby Vs Burton game last season which Derby won with a very soft penalty - sound familiar?
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Post by jakeg on Dec 29, 2023 23:20:48 GMT 1
Watch the match again and you will see. A massive let down tonight. Really never understood why people need to single out someone to that level in what was an encouraging display. Happened all the time in my 45 years watching town. Of course there are reasons we lost tonight but rudoni wasn't one
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Post by E4b on Dec 29, 2023 23:21:28 GMT 1
Watch the match again and you will see. A massive let down tonight. I don't need to watch it again. I've already watched it. Rudoni was fine. 7/10. Wiles was 6/10. Some good some bad Then Sorba was 35/10, he put some effort in tonight, Headley 30/10, Koroma 25/10. We need 11 players putting a shift in.
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Post by rab030 on Dec 29, 2023 23:21:35 GMT 1
Harsh on Rudoni. He played well again. We're a much better side with him in it Watch the match again and tell me how many times he gives possession away or watches Boro players bypass him with absolutely no effort put in. Most overrated player by a mile. He scored a couple of goals this season but with more effort or ability he could and should have put more of the simple chances away. I hope you’re a scout for other clubs in the Championship. Our best player and we might lose him in the next window. Not sure which games you have been watching but I have to disagree with your opinion.
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Dec 29, 2023 23:22:32 GMT 1
I don't need to watch it again. I've already watched it. Rudoni was fine. 7/10. Wiles was 6/10. Some good some bad Then Sorba was 35/10, he put some effort in tonight, Headley 30/10, Koroma 25/10. We need 11 players putting a shift in. We had 11 players put a shift in .
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