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Post by workshyfop on Oct 6, 2024 20:48:16 GMT 1
I admire the optimism (misplaced as it is)/clutching at straws. He’s fucking terrible. Considering he was bought so that his goals might keep us up in the Championship and he’s yet to score in the league below, I fail to see how anyone is coming to any other conclusion. Touch of a trampoline, soft as shite, so surprised to score that he burst into tears. Utterly useless. Ladapo is better than him by a mile. At least he has a track record at this level. Yet to score in the league below with 2 starts isn’t exactly embarrassing. Touch of a trampoline? You can knock Bojan for a lot of things, but his touch isn’t one of them, especially compared to Ladapo’s touch, yet Ladapo is miles better than him? Baffling I think it was the Blackpool match, he was put through on goal and his touch took him backwards facing away from goal. Woeful. Not suggesting Ladapo is great, but at least he’s scored goals at this level. |
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Post by workshyfop on Oct 6, 2024 20:49:05 GMT 1
Definitely worth a run in the side, puts in more effort than others that have played that position and a couple of goals might just set him on a decent run. I remember a certain welsh international striker having a very slow start but once he netted a few times he never looked back. He deserves an extended run in the side, his workrate was spot on yesterday and he definitely looks like he wants to do well Was thinking that Bojan and Marshall reminded me a fair bit of Roberts and Starbuck in their link up play. I'd like to see them start a run of games in the unfortunate absence of JK. I think Bojan can get 20 goals this season. 20? He won’t get double figures. |
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Post by drbaldric on Oct 6, 2024 20:54:22 GMT 1
Was thinking that Bojan and Marshall reminded me a fair bit of Roberts and Starbuck in their link up play. I'd like to see them start a run of games in the unfortunate absence of JK. I think Bojan can get 20 goals this season. 20? He won’t get double figures. If it hadn't been for Slonina having a great match - in the first half at least - he'd have had two by half time |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2024 21:19:28 GMT 1
Yet to score in the league below with 2 starts isn’t exactly embarrassing. Touch of a trampoline? You can knock Bojan for a lot of things, but his touch isn’t one of them, especially compared to Ladapo’s touch, yet Ladapo is miles better than him? Baffling I think it was the Blackpool match, he was put through on goal and his touch took him backwards facing away from goal. Woeful. Not suggesting Ladapo is great, but at least he’s scored goals at this level. Think your imagining things mate, would love to see this. Bojan has scored goals in European competition. Which level would you say is higher? |
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Post by workshyfop on Oct 6, 2024 21:28:35 GMT 1
I think it was the Blackpool match, he was put through on goal and his touch took him backwards facing away from goal. Woeful. Not suggesting Ladapo is great, but at least he’s scored goals at this level. Think your imagining things mate, would love to see this. Bojan has scored goals in European competition. Which level would you say is higher? Just watch the games back mate, he still won’t have scored though. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2024 21:37:12 GMT 1
Think your imagining things mate, would love to see this. Bojan has scored goals in European competition. Which level would you say is higher? Just watch the games back mate, he still won’t have scored though. Again, having watched the games I don’t recall that, surely an error so blatant and obvious would be in the highlights. Are you going to ignore my other point? |
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Post by htafcdreams on Oct 6, 2024 21:39:04 GMT 1
Bojan makes 34 year old Jordan Rhodes look a peak scoring machine still.
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Post by workshyfop on Oct 6, 2024 22:18:20 GMT 1
Just watch the games back mate, he still won’t have scored though. Again, having watched the games I don’t recall that, surely an error so blatant and obvious would be in the highlights. Are you going to ignore my other point? What point? Scoring in Europe? I hope he comes good, but see no evidence that suggests he will. People rightly hoping for the best. It seems very unlikely. If he scores next week, great. But don’t come crowing until he gets 10+. |
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Oct 6, 2024 22:27:02 GMT 1
I bet you ten bob he scores within the next 3 games.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 7, 2024 11:28:11 GMT 1
Again, having watched the games I don’t recall that, surely an error so blatant and obvious would be in the highlights. Are you going to ignore my other point? If he scores next week, great. But don’t come crowing until he gets 10+. Not a dig at you personally, but this sort of thinking I find frustrating and happens a lot. Rather than people making their mind up on a player and then looking for evidence to back up the reason why they are shit/great, isn't it better to support said player, keep an open mind and take each performance on its own merit? |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 7, 2024 11:29:29 GMT 1
My personal take on this - Bojan has disappointed since he's got here and doesn't seem all that robust, but we did sign him out of season and he's had injuries. He's shown signs of composure, decent link-up play and the ability to score goals.
Looking unlikely that he's going to be a goalscorer to fire us to promotion but it is a bit too early to be writing him off. I saw the beginnings of a decent partnership with him and Marshall on Saturday, they could compliment each other quite well.
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Post by dxterrier on Oct 7, 2024 11:30:24 GMT 1
If forums had been a thing back then we would all have been slagging off Iwan Roberts when he first signed, nor would boothy have escaped the ire of DATM when he first appeared. Who knows, Bojan may get 1 goal and never look back just like the aforementioned, or he may never get going and just dissappear again, but at the moment its clear to see he wants to do well, and is working hard and to me is worth his place in the team...I, for one, will give him every chance
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Post by efesodje23 on Oct 7, 2024 11:36:45 GMT 1
Probably his best game on Saturday, albeit that doesn't say much. He's also not had many minutes.
Looks to be a bit physically stronger than last season. Did look like he's running in treacle though. Could've had 1/2 on Saturday but their keeper had a fantastic first half.
I think if he were to start each game as part of the 3-5-2 he's a solid 7-8 goals a season. Be surprised to see more than that.
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Post by workshyfop on Oct 7, 2024 12:04:26 GMT 1
If he scores next week, great. But don’t come crowing until he gets 10+. Not a dig at you personally, but this sort of thinking I find frustrating and happens a lot. Rather than people making their mind up on a player and then looking for evidence to back up the reason why they are shit/great, isn't it better to support said player, keep an open mind and take each performance on its own merit? Fair point. Obviously I hope he starts banging the goals in and makes me look daft(er). I just don’t see it at the moment. |
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Post by belizian on Oct 11, 2024 10:30:21 GMT 1
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Post by Dan on Oct 11, 2024 10:46:54 GMT 1
I'm glad Duff has more patience than some of the fanbase. Bojan has had 4 years playing against the Dog & Reindeer in Finland & Sweden where I imagine the intensity is a lot lower than Championship/League 1, and he can get away with a few km a game less than he can now. He's shown enough for me in the games we've seen that he is worth persevering with. |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Oct 11, 2024 10:57:52 GMT 1
I'm glad Duff has more patience than some of the fanbase. Bojan has had 4 years playing against the Dog & Reindeer in Finland & Sweden where I imagine the intensity is a lot lower than Championship/League 1, and he can get away with a few km a game less than he can now. He's shown enough for me in the games we've seen that he is worth persevering with. Agreed, I think he gets himself into good positions in the box and I’m sure the goals will come if we keep creating chances. He looks like he’s running in treacle when he’s closing down the defenders but with Marshall alongside him doing most of the ratting it worked really well on Saturday. If we can keep pressing as a team and not individually it will help him out. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Oct 11, 2024 11:02:47 GMT 1
I'm glad Duff has more patience than some of the fanbase. Bojan has had 4 years playing against the Dog & Reindeer in Finland & Sweden where I imagine the intensity is a lot lower than Championship/League 1, and he can get away with a few km a game less than he can now. He's shown enough for me in the games we've seen that he is worth persevering with. Agreed, I think he gets himself into good positions in the box and I’m sure the goals will come if we keep creating chances. He looks like he’s running in treacle when he’s closing down the defenders but with Marshall alongside him doing most of the ratting it worked really well on Saturday. If we can keep pressing as a team and not individually it will help him out. Very true and also if he is showing, the willingness to adapt his game . Then i am sure it will come , it probs does not help that since he has being with us he has had 3 managers 4 if you include Worthy and bouts of innjury and settling into a new country etc. He has shown glimpses of something in him. He has done some very smart turns etc snap shots etc. |
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Oct 11, 2024 12:21:24 GMT 1
Agreed, I think he gets himself into good positions in the box and I’m sure the goals will come if we keep creating chances. He looks like he’s running in treacle when he’s closing down the defenders but with Marshall alongside him doing most of the ratting it worked really well on Saturday. If we can keep pressing as a team and not individually it will help him out. Very true and also if he is showing, the willingness to adapt his game . Then i am sure it will come , it probs does not help that since he has being with us he has had 3 managers 4 if you include Worthy and bouts of innjury and settling into a new country etc. He has shown glimpses of something in him. He has done some very smart turns etc snap shots etc. 4 managers? He only signed last Jan. I know we like a sacking, but its Schitenwriter and Duff only. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2024 12:34:54 GMT 1
Very true and also if he is showing, the willingness to adapt his game . Then i am sure it will come , it probs does not help that since he has being with us he has had 3 managers 4 if you include Worthy and bouts of innjury and settling into a new country etc. He has shown glimpses of something in him. He has done some very smart turns etc snap shots etc. 4 managers? He only signed last Jan. I know we like a sacking, but it’s Schitenwriter and Duff only. Played 3 games under Moore |
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Oct 11, 2024 13:28:50 GMT 1
Ha tried to remove all memory of that 😅
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Oct 11, 2024 13:29:55 GMT 1
Very true and also if he is showing, the willingness to adapt his game . Then i am sure it will come , it probs does not help that since he has being with us he has had 3 managers 4 if you include Worthy and bouts of innjury and settling into a new country etc. He has shown glimpses of something in him. He has done some very smart turns etc snap shots etc. edited as i was talking rubbish. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 12, 2024 8:10:49 GMT 1
I'm glad Duff has more patience than some of the fanbase. Bojan has had 4 years playing against the Dog & Reindeer in Finland & Sweden where I imagine the intensity is a lot lower than Championship/League 1, and he can get away with a few km a game less than he can now. He's shown enough for me in the games we've seen that he is worth persevering with. The quote reflects poorly on Bojan’s work ethic. Hopefully the penny drops on the physical effort and commitment required to make a success of himself, because he’s got the technical qualities. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 12, 2024 8:43:30 GMT 1
If he had been signed on a free transfer I might agree with some of this on here. Ie give him a chance.
He wasn’t we paid decent money for him.
Signed - unfit.
Missed pre season.
Seemingly doesn’t like running.
Just another Cartwright disaster of a player.
Be lucky to get 4 goals this season.
Why Kev is persevering with Cartwright is beyond me.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 12, 2024 9:08:57 GMT 1
Again, I think this has been taken out of context.
Would Duff really say this if it was negative attitude?
I see it more of Bojan is shocked at how much fitter he needs to get and how much running is demanded for the press.
Something he has probably never needed to do before.
I didn't read it as a refusal or a moan about running.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 12, 2024 9:39:27 GMT 1
I'm glad Duff has more patience than some of the fanbase. Bojan has had 4 years playing against the Dog & Reindeer in Finland & Sweden where I imagine the intensity is a lot lower than Championship/League 1, and he can get away with a few km a game less than he can now. He's shown enough for me in the games we've seen that he is worth persevering with. The quote reflects poorly on Bojan’s work ethic. Hopefully the penny drops on the physical effort and commitment required to make a success of himself, because he’s got the technical qualities. Isn't this the same reason why he didn't cut it at Brighton? |
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 12, 2024 10:38:51 GMT 1
Be interesting to come back to this thread at the end of the season and see ;
A) how many games - 16 starts max.
B) how many goals - 4 I’ll
Go with.
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Post by leroy212 on Oct 12, 2024 10:53:26 GMT 1
Be interesting to come back to this thread at the end of the season and see ; A) how many games - 16 starts max. B) how many goals - 4 I’ll Go with. He's managed a few games without getting injured so 16 might be right or just around that. I'll say 20 starts 5 goals. |
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Post by ringdisco on Oct 12, 2024 20:15:59 GMT 1
I'm glad Duff has more patience than some of the fanbase. Bojan has had 4 years playing against the Dog & Reindeer in Finland & Sweden where I imagine the intensity is a lot lower than Championship/League 1, and he can get away with a few km a game less than he can now. He's shown enough for me in the games we've seen that he is worth persevering with. Finland, fine they're all shit, but when he played in Allsvenskan I'd say he was a level close to bottom championship/top end League One. Two swedish teams in Europa League this season, one of them have just beaten Roma, and another in Conference. Bojan scored 3 in 30 in Sweden that season btw....and for a top half side (AIK). |
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Post by workshyfop on Oct 12, 2024 21:15:59 GMT 1
As I’ve said, I think he’s terrible, but time will tell and I hope I’m wrong. Funny people putting a positive spin on it. Even the commentator the other night said he’d hardly had a kick. If I was clutching at straws, I’d say that coaching is underrated (what Corberan did with a poor squad is evidence of that) and if the coaches are good at their jobs then maybe they can get him up to scratch.
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