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Post by Porrohman on Jan 14, 2024 21:44:32 GMT 1
Imagine if owners acted on the more vocal supporters all the time. We’d have 92 clubs and 270 managerial changes every season… DATM is a sounding board for venting, nothing more. Vent away… We’d have Jill Ellis in charge 😂 Would/could she be worse than Moore 🫣 |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 14, 2024 21:48:11 GMT 1
I tweeted him the YouTube link to Golden Gordon from Ripping Yarns, the other night, as an insight to the psyche of northern football fans 😁. I hope he's watched it
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Post by Justasmithers on Jan 14, 2024 23:37:21 GMT 1
He was in the suite yesterday, made a beeline for the fella that won some reality TV show (he did the Golden Gamble) but didn't come over and meet the old youth team lads, which was a shame. Lolllll cmon man. I was in the suite for about 5 minutes before going back outside, and I met who they told me to meet (nice guy). I would’ve loved to have met the youth team lads, but I had no idea. Kevin and I are old friends I’m here to learn about the club and supporters and say what I say No I will not say that, and no I will not suggest THAT. Yes I’ve said that and I’ve also said THAT so kindly please get out of my DMs with scouting reports as I have absolutely ZERO INFLUENCE on football things directly nor do I know any of you well enough to know whether or not you do either 😂 Anyway since you made a whole thread which you shouldn’t have, I thought it would be rude not to say something. Bottom line, I’m here to listen, learn, meet and talk to folks, and pass on what I see/hear. No one of any importance, just a keen observer. Pip pip carry on |
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Post by specialun on Jan 14, 2024 23:43:33 GMT 1
Good on him - comes across engaged, keen to learn, passionate, says as he sees it - like anyone from Yorkshire would. Will never please anyone, nor did Sean Jarvis (who I was a huge fan of)
If I was Nagle & I had a trusted mate who would do that id be all for it. What’s not to like
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Post by harris on Jan 14, 2024 23:50:11 GMT 1
He was in the suite yesterday, made a beeline for the fella that won some reality TV show (he did the Golden Gamble) but didn't come over and meet the old youth team lads, which was a shame. Lolllll cmon man. I was in the suite for about 5 minutes before going back outside, and I met who they told me to meet (nice guy). I would’ve loved to have met the youth team lads, but I had no idea. Kevin and I are old friends I’m here to learn about the club and supporters and say what I say No I will not say that, and no I will not suggest THAT. Yes I’ve said that and I’ve also said THAT so kindly please get out of my DMs with scouting reports as I have absolutely ZERO INFLUENCE on football things directly nor do I know any of you well enough to know whether or not you do either 😂 Anyway since you made a whole thread which you shouldn’t have, I thought it would be rude not to say something. Bottom line, I’m here to listen, learn, meet and talk to folks, and pass on what I see/hear. No one of any importance, just a keen observer. Pip pip carry on People are probably bored at having a go at Kev, the players, the manager, the physios, the recruitment team… now it’s your turn. Next up - the dinnerladies and Terry the Terrier 🤣 |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 14, 2024 23:52:39 GMT 1
He was in the suite yesterday, made a beeline for the fella that won some reality TV show (he did the Golden Gamble) but didn't come over and meet the old youth team lads, which was a shame. Lolllll cmon man. I was in the suite for about 5 minutes before going back outside, and I met who they told me to meet (nice guy). I would’ve loved to have met the youth team lads, but I had no idea. Kevin and I are old friends I’m here to learn about the club and supporters and say what I say No I will not say that, and no I will not suggest THAT. Yes I’ve said that and I’ve also said THAT so kindly please get out of my DMs with scouting reports as I have absolutely ZERO INFLUENCE on football things directly nor do I know any of you well enough to know whether or not you do either 😂 Anyway since you made a whole thread which you shouldn’t have, I thought it would be rude not to say something. Bottom line, I’m here to listen, learn, meet and talk to folks, and pass on what I see/hear. No one of any importance, just a keen observer. Pip pip carry on I didn't make this thread. Pip pip carry on. |
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Post by Justasmithers on Jan 15, 2024 0:01:27 GMT 1
Lolllll cmon man. I was in the suite for about 5 minutes before going back outside, and I met who they told me to meet (nice guy). I would’ve loved to have met the youth team lads, but I had no idea. Kevin and I are old friends I’m here to learn about the club and supporters and say what I say No I will not say that, and no I will not suggest THAT. Yes I’ve said that and I’ve also said THAT so kindly please get out of my DMs with scouting reports as I have absolutely ZERO INFLUENCE on football things directly nor do I know any of you well enough to know whether or not you do either 😂 Anyway since you made a whole thread which you shouldn’t have, I thought it would be rude not to say something. Bottom line, I’m here to listen, learn, meet and talk to folks, and pass on what I see/hear. No one of any importance, just a keen observer. Pip pip carry on I didn't make this thread. Pip pip carry on. Well since you were in there, I wish you had come up and introduced yourself! Maybe next time. Would love to say hello |
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Jan 15, 2024 0:03:05 GMT 1
He was in the suite yesterday, made a beeline for the fella that won some reality TV show (he did the Golden Gamble) but didn't come over and meet the old youth team lads, which was a shame. Lolllll cmon man. I was in the suite for about 5 minutes before going back outside, and I met who they told me to meet (nice guy). I would’ve loved to have met the youth team lads, but I had no idea. Kevin and I are old friends I’m here to learn about the club and supporters and say what I say No I will not say that, and no I will not suggest THAT. Yes I’ve said that and I’ve also said THAT so kindly please get out of my DMs with scouting reports as I have absolutely ZERO INFLUENCE on football things directly nor do I know any of you well enough to know whether or not you do either 😂 Anyway since you made a whole thread which you shouldn’t have, I thought it would be rude not to say something. Bottom line, I’m here to listen, learn, meet and talk to folks, and pass on what I see/hear. No one of any importance, just a keen observer. Pip pip carry on Not too sure on your knowledge of football, but either way you surely have to see how bad we are? I understand your point in that you have no influence in football matters but you must be able to gauge the general consensus on here. That is one of Moore is not up to the job, the majority of fans have had enough, are disillusioned and want him gone. I can tell you this, it is very very rare for a manager in Moores position to win back fans from where he is now. The run of results he needs to achieve that is approaching the impossible. Maybe a little word in Kevins ear ? First and biggest mistake he can make is that of pissing off/losing the fans. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 15, 2024 0:04:58 GMT 1
Lolllll cmon man. I was in the suite for about 5 minutes before going back outside, and I met who they told me to meet (nice guy). I would’ve loved to have met the youth team lads, but I had no idea. Kevin and I are old friends I’m here to learn about the club and supporters and say what I say No I will not say that, and no I will not suggest THAT. Yes I’ve said that and I’ve also said THAT so kindly please get out of my DMs with scouting reports as I have absolutely ZERO INFLUENCE on football things directly nor do I know any of you well enough to know whether or not you do either 😂 Anyway since you made a whole thread which you shouldn’t have, I thought it would be rude not to say something. Bottom line, I’m here to listen, learn, meet and talk to folks, and pass on what I see/hear. No one of any importance, just a keen observer. Pip pip carry on Not too sure on your knowledge of football, but either way you surely have to see how bad we are? I understand your point in that you have no influence in football matters but you must be able to gauge the general consensus on here. That is one of Moore is not up to the job, the majority of fans have had enough, are disillusioned and want him gone. I can tell you this, it is very very rare for a manager in Moores position to win back fans from where he is now. The run of results he needs to achieve that is approaching the impossible. Maybe a little word in Kevins ear ? First and biggest mistake he can make is that of pissing off/losing the fans. There's probably only two managers that have turned it around after such a poor start. Neil Warnock and Carlos Corberan. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 15, 2024 0:05:28 GMT 1
I didn't make this thread. Pip pip carry on. Well since you were in there, I wish you had come up and introduced yourself! Maybe next time. Would love to say hello You were busy  |
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Post by Justasmithers on Jan 15, 2024 0:05:53 GMT 1
Lolllll cmon man. I was in the suite for about 5 minutes before going back outside, and I met who they told me to meet (nice guy). I would’ve loved to have met the youth team lads, but I had no idea. Kevin and I are old friends I’m here to learn about the club and supporters and say what I say No I will not say that, and no I will not suggest THAT. Yes I’ve said that and I’ve also said THAT so kindly please get out of my DMs with scouting reports as I have absolutely ZERO INFLUENCE on football things directly nor do I know any of you well enough to know whether or not you do either 😂 Anyway since you made a whole thread which you shouldn’t have, I thought it would be rude not to say something. Bottom line, I’m here to listen, learn, meet and talk to folks, and pass on what I see/hear. No one of any importance, just a keen observer. Pip pip carry on Not too sure on your knowledge of football, but either way you surely have to see how bad we are? I understand your point in that you have no influence in football matters but you must be able to gauge the general consensus on here. That is one of Moore is not up to the job, the majority of fans have had enough, are disillusioned and want him gone. I can tell you this, it is very very rare for a manager in Moores position to win back fans from where he is now. The run of results he needs to achieve that is approaching the impossible. Maybe a little word in Kevins ear ? First and biggest mistake he can make is that of pissing off/losing the fans. I read here. I read on socials I spent more time before, during, and after the match talking with supporters than watching the match. I sat at the bottom where the Cowshed Loyal stands so I could hear and observe and talk to people. I am certainly able to relay sentiments, I assure you everyone is well aware of what people think. That’s all I can offer you |
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Jan 15, 2024 0:11:03 GMT 1
Not too sure on your knowledge of football, but either way you surely have to see how bad we are? I understand your point in that you have no influence in football matters but you must be able to gauge the general consensus on here. That is one of Moore is not up to the job, the majority of fans have had enough, are disillusioned and want him gone. I can tell you this, it is very very rare for a manager in Moores position to win back fans from where he is now. The run of results he needs to achieve that is approaching the impossible. Maybe a little word in Kevins ear ? First and biggest mistake he can make is that of pissing off/losing the fans. I read here. I read on socials I spent more time before, during, and after the match talking with supporters than watching the match. I sat at the bottom where the Cowshed Loyal stands so I could hear and observe and talk to people. I am certainly able to relay sentiments, I assure you everyone is well aware of what people think. That’s all I can offer you That is good to hear. A few weeks back Kevin referred to us as customers which was a bad choice of words and did not go down well. Ultimately though he is right, football is a business and so is HTAFC. Like any business it needs a certain level of income from said customers to keep things viable. We have a saying in the UK, the customer is always right. I will say no more. |
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Post by Justasmithers on Jan 15, 2024 0:14:40 GMT 1
I read here. I read on socials I spent more time before, during, and after the match talking with supporters than watching the match. I sat at the bottom where the Cowshed Loyal stands so I could hear and observe and talk to people. I am certainly able to relay sentiments, I assure you everyone is well aware of what people think. That’s all I can offer you That is good to hear. A few weeks back Kevin referred to us as customers which was a bad choice of words and did not go down well. Ultimately though he is right, football is a business and so is HTAFC and like any business it needs a certain level of income from said customers to keep things viable. We have a saying in the UK, the customer is always right. I will say no more. We’re trying. I ASSURE you he is trying to get the cultural “lingo” if you will correct. Customers/fans/suppoeters, owner/chairman/catetaker, soccer football games matches chips fries sandwiches buttys crisps crackers cookies biscuits etc It’s a lot My suggestion would be: there’s a lot of really really important stuff needing fixing. Just trust if the lingo gets a little off, it’s not on purpose and we really do try. Bear with |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 15, 2024 0:20:29 GMT 1
That is good to hear. A few weeks back Kevin referred to us as customers which was a bad choice of words and did not go down well. Ultimately though he is right, football is a business and so is HTAFC and like any business it needs a certain level of income from said customers to keep things viable. We have a saying in the UK, the customer is always right. I will say no more. We’re trying. I ASSURE you he is trying to get the cultural “lingo” if you will correct. Customers/fans/suppoeters, owner/chairman/catetaker, soccer football games matches chips fries sandwiches buttys crisps crackers cookies biscuits etc It’s a lot My suggestion would be: there’s a lot of really really important stuff needing fixing. Just trust if the lingo gets a little off, it’s not on purpose and we really do try. Bear with And nothing more important than on the pitch. That's the immediate concern and the only really important thing that needs fixing. From hearing Nagle's interviews and reading the various things he puts out, I'm not sure he realises this? He seems to have toilets, food, light shows, alcoholic spirits in the ground etc. higher up in the list of priorities than they ought to be. I think this is the big difference between football in England and football in America. In America it is treated far more like an event than it is in this country. People go to the games, they might have a pint or an hot dog, and they go home. It's not such a huge issue here, neither is having posh bogs. In fact, compared some grounds I've visited, the toilets are luxury 😂 Before anyone starts, it's not a dig, just an observation. |
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Jan 15, 2024 0:22:37 GMT 1
That is good to hear. A few weeks back Kevin referred to us as customers which was a bad choice of words and did not go down well. Ultimately though he is right, football is a business and so is HTAFC and like any business it needs a certain level of income from said customers to keep things viable. We have a saying in the UK, the customer is always right. I will say no more. We’re trying. I ASSURE you he is trying to get the cultural “lingo” if you will correct. Customers/fans/suppoeters, owner/chairman/catetaker, soccer football games matches chips fries sandwiches buttys crisps crackers cookies biscuits etc It’s a lot My suggestion would be: there’s a lot of really really important stuff needing fixing. Just trust if the lingo gets a little off, it’s not on purpose and we really do try. Bear with On a personal note being called a customer makes no odds to me. I am well aware this is a business like any professional sport. My post may have been badly worded but we could change the phrase to “the fans are always right”, the meaning is the same. English football as a whole is nothing without its fans, keep them happy you are on to a winner. However do the opposite, as is happening with the vast majority of town fans currently and you are on a hiding to nothing ( another bit of local lingo!) Anyway I do appreciate the replies to my post and I think its great you are on here doing so and engaging with fans, can only be a positive 👍 |
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Post by irverino on Jan 15, 2024 0:25:37 GMT 1
Just a guy;
If you go in 'off topic' section you will find the NFL thread......I suspect your quite knowledgeable on the sport?
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Post by harris on Jan 15, 2024 0:35:55 GMT 1
We’re trying. I ASSURE you he is trying to get the cultural “lingo” if you will correct. Customers/fans/suppoeters, owner/chairman/catetaker, soccer football games matches chips fries sandwiches buttys crisps crackers cookies biscuits etc It’s a lot My suggestion would be: there’s a lot of really really important stuff needing fixing. Just trust if the lingo gets a little off, it’s not on purpose and we really do try. Bear with And nothing more important than on the pitch. That's the immediate concern and the only really important thing that needs fixing. From hearing Nagle's interviews and reading the various things he puts out, I'm not sure he realises this? He seems to have toilets, food, light shows, alcoholic spirits in the ground etc. higher up in the list of priorities than they ought to be. I think this is the big difference between football in England and football in America. In America it is treated far more like an event than it is in this country. People go to the games, they might have a pint or an hot dog, and they go home. It's not such a huge issue here, neither is having posh bogs. In fact, compared some grounds I've visited, the toilets are luxury 😂 Before anyone starts, it's not a dig, just an observation. I think you’re spot on re on the pitch being the fundamental thing. If we win, I don’t care if the toilets are outdated. Being crap (pardon the pun) highlights every issue top to bottom (ok I meant that one). But I do think Kev realises this, he’s said so many times. Keeping Moore in charge is the only caveat to that, it’s proving to be counter intuitive the more the season goes on. The other bits are easier to do and ultimately are aimed to bring in more money which can in turn be spent on the club. I don’t think it has to be either or. The best example I’ve experienced of a game being turned into more of an event is against Brighton down at the Amex stadium a few years ago. Modern concourse, they put up Huddersfield signage, big screens showing the footy, pretty sure they had some of our local ales on, kept it open after the game and it was essentially just as good as being in a pub. If town did this, I would come down earlier and leave later - spending more money in the process. I understand the difficulty with the stadium situation however. The point being - it is possible, but needs major work to achieve it. |
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Post by Justasmithers on Jan 15, 2024 0:37:58 GMT 1
We’re trying. I ASSURE you he is trying to get the cultural “lingo” if you will correct. Customers/fans/suppoeters, owner/chairman/catetaker, soccer football games matches chips fries sandwiches buttys crisps crackers cookies biscuits etc It’s a lot My suggestion would be: there’s a lot of really really important stuff needing fixing. Just trust if the lingo gets a little off, it’s not on purpose and we really do try. Bear with And nothing more important than on the pitch. That's the immediate concern and the only really important thing that needs fixing. From hearing Nagle's interviews and reading the various things he puts out, I'm not sure he realises this? He seems to have toilets, food, light shows, alcoholic spirits in the ground etc. higher up in the list of priorities than they ought to be. I think this is the big difference between football in England and football in America. In America it is treated far more like an event than it is in this country. People go to the games, they might have a pint or an hot dog, and they go home. It's not such a huge issue here, neither is having posh bogs. In fact, compared some grounds I've visited, the toilets are luxury 😂 Before anyone starts, it's not a dig, just an observation. It’s a fair question I’ll do my best to give a fair answer. 1. Do you honestly think he bought the team, hired people, and DOESNT realize what relegation means? Trust me, of course he does. 2. I’ve seen a lot of this so I’m glad you brought it up- no one is trying to “americanize” things and not pay attention to tradition. But improvements have to be made- the grounds, stadium, etc. And he’s trying his best to get there and invest so everyone can have a great match day experience. OF COURSE what happens on the pitch is number one, full stop. But here’s the thing- music, kids zones, more concessions, hell dog races at halftime- that’s a totally different department. Darren and Mark and the players have nothing to do with that. So my point is, one doesn’t take away from the other in any way shape or form. Obviously the goal is to have an A+ experience for supporters off the pitch, and A+ results on the pitch. And we will get there. We all want the same thing. We may disagree on which way to row, but we are all in the same boat. He’s over here away from family for the month, I just spent two weeks taking “vacation” from my radio job away from my wife and kids- why? Because there’s a ton of work to do and everyone, every employee, and every chairman are committed to making everything as perfect as possible because you deserve it. No one expects trust. Trust is earned. So here we are. Trying to earn. Bear with please. |
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Post by Justasmithers on Jan 15, 2024 0:38:43 GMT 1
Just a guy; If you go in 'off topic' section you will find the NFL thread......I suspect your quite knowledgeable on the sport? Very |
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Post by yorkshiretripod on Jan 15, 2024 0:41:53 GMT 1
As someone who only really lurks on here these days, and contributes sporadically, I find it refreshing that we've got input and insights from someone so closely linked to Kevin.
I rarely go to games anymore, number of reasons why, so I'm not able to gauge what the general consensus is from the matchday crowds regarding the mood and attitudes towards Moore and the style of play, but the majority of posters on here sway to the side of wanting Moore gone, though just how representative that is from matchday attendances, I'm not sure. What I get to see is televised games, through the red button, and occasionally, streams, but as an outsider and a part-time supporter, what I will say is just how unappealing to the eyes the style of play is. I have seen a slight improvement in recent games of a tendency to be more advanced and on the 'front foot' in games, but the reports from many on here suggest that Saturday was a step back from that. People like me who attend only very rarely need to be enticed back, so what i would say to Mr Carmichael is that the way things seem to be at present, the wrong ethos is in place to get back people whose interest may be on the wane.
I'd hoped Moore would have worked, but our fanbase usually decides pretty quickly whether who is in charge, is favoured or not.
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 15, 2024 0:49:24 GMT 1
And nothing more important than on the pitch. That's the immediate concern and the only really important thing that needs fixing. From hearing Nagle's interviews and reading the various things he puts out, I'm not sure he realises this? He seems to have toilets, food, light shows, alcoholic spirits in the ground etc. higher up in the list of priorities than they ought to be. I think this is the big difference between football in England and football in America. In America it is treated far more like an event than it is in this country. People go to the games, they might have a pint or an hot dog, and they go home. It's not such a huge issue here, neither is having posh bogs. In fact, compared some grounds I've visited, the toilets are luxury 😂 Before anyone starts, it's not a dig, just an observation. It’s a fair question I’ll do my best to give a fair answer. 1. Do you honestly think he bought the team, hired people, and DOESNT realize what relegation means? Trust me, of course he does. 2. I’ve seen a lot of this so I’m glad you brought it up- no one is trying to “americanize” things and not pay attention to tradition. But improvements have to be made- the grounds, stadium, etc. And he’s trying his best to get there and invest so everyone can have a great match day experience. OF COURSE what happens on the pitch is number one, full stop. But here’s the thing- music, kids zones, more concessions, hell dog races at halftime- that’s a totally different department. Darren and Mark and the players have nothing to do with that. So my point is, one doesn’t take away from the other in any way shape or form. Obviously the goal is to have an A+ experience for supporters off the pitch, and A+ results on the pitch. And we will get there. We all want the same thing. We may disagree on which way to row, but we are all in the same boat. He’s over here away from family for the month, I just spent two weeks taking “vacation” from my radio job away from my wife and kids- why? Because there’s a ton of work to do and everyone, every employee, and every chairman are committed to making everything as perfect as possible because you deserve it. No one expects trust. Trust is earned. So here we are. Trying to earn. Bear with please. If we start doing well on the pitch, the "matchday experience" will take care of itself, I assure you. |
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Post by Justasmithers on Jan 15, 2024 0:54:19 GMT 1
It’s a fair question I’ll do my best to give a fair answer. 1. Do you honestly think he bought the team, hired people, and DOESNT realize what relegation means? Trust me, of course he does. 2. I’ve seen a lot of this so I’m glad you brought it up- no one is trying to “americanize” things and not pay attention to tradition. But improvements have to be made- the grounds, stadium, etc. And he’s trying his best to get there and invest so everyone can have a great match day experience. OF COURSE what happens on the pitch is number one, full stop. But here’s the thing- music, kids zones, more concessions, hell dog races at halftime- that’s a totally different department. Darren and Mark and the players have nothing to do with that. So my point is, one doesn’t take away from the other in any way shape or form. Obviously the goal is to have an A+ experience for supporters off the pitch, and A+ results on the pitch. And we will get there. We all want the same thing. We may disagree on which way to row, but we are all in the same boat. He’s over here away from family for the month, I just spent two weeks taking “vacation” from my radio job away from my wife and kids- why? Because there’s a ton of work to do and everyone, every employee, and every chairman are committed to making everything as perfect as possible because you deserve it. No one expects trust. Trust is earned. So here we are. Trying to earn. Bear with please. If we start doing well on the pitch, the "matchday experience" will take care of itself, I assure you. But for who? I think we can bring in more women supporters, more kiddos, many many more than the diehards that are already present. I promise you music and halftime shows or whatever it will be won’t hurt anyone, and if the performance on the pitch is good everyone wins. In short: why not both? |
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Post by Galpharmer on Jan 15, 2024 0:55:48 GMT 1
And nothing more important than on the pitch. That's the immediate concern and the only really important thing that needs fixing. From hearing Nagle's interviews and reading the various things he puts out, I'm not sure he realises this? He seems to have toilets, food, light shows, alcoholic spirits in the ground etc. higher up in the list of priorities than they ought to be. I think this is the big difference between football in England and football in America. In America it is treated far more like an event than it is in this country. People go to the games, they might have a pint or an hot dog, and they go home. It's not such a huge issue here, neither is having posh bogs. In fact, compared some grounds I've visited, the toilets are luxury 😂 Before anyone starts, it's not a dig, just an observation. I think you’re spot on re on the pitch being the fundamental thing. If we win, I don’t care if the toilets are outdated. Being crap (pardon the pun) highlights every issue top to bottom (ok I meant that one). But I do think Kev realises this, he’s said so many times. Keeping Moore in charge is the only caveat to that, it’s proving to be counter intuitive the more the season goes on. The other bits are easier to do and ultimately are aimed to bring in more money which can in turn be spent on the club. I don’t think it has to be either or. The best example I’ve experienced of a game being turned into more of an event is against Brighton down at the Amex stadium a few years ago. Modern concourse, they put up Huddersfield signage, big screens showing the footy, pretty sure they had some of our local ales on, kept it open after the game and it was essentially just as good as being in a pub. If town did this, I would come down earlier and leave later - spending more money in the process. I understand the difficulty with the stadium situation however. The point being - it is possible, but needs major work to achieve it. Can you imagine the stadium staff serving cask ale?! They struggle putting water into a Bovril cup. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 15, 2024 0:58:27 GMT 1
If we start doing well on the pitch, the "matchday experience" will take care of itself, I assure you. But for who? I think we can bring in more women supporters, more kiddos, many many more than the diehards that are already present. I promise you music and halftime shows or whatever it will be won’t hurt anyone, and if the performance on the pitch is good everyone wins. In short: why not both? Because they are just gimmicks and are often just cringeworthy. You bring in new supporters by winning games. It's that simple. Whenever the team has been successful, no-one has even mentioned the "matchday experience". Simply because they didn't need to, the atmosphere was buzzing because what we were watching on the pitch was enjoyable. Give us a team that excites us (which at the moment will not take much) and you'll find that the atmosphere improves. |
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Post by Justasmithers on Jan 15, 2024 1:02:54 GMT 1
But for who? I think we can bring in more women supporters, more kiddos, many many more than the diehards that are already present. I promise you music and halftime shows or whatever it will be won’t hurt anyone, and if the performance on the pitch is good everyone wins. In short: why not both? Because they are just gimmicks and are often just cringeworthy. You bring in new supporters by winning games. It's that simple. Whenever the team has been successful, no-one has even mentioned the "matchday experience". Simply because they didn't need to, the atmosphere was buzzing because what we were watching on the pitch was enjoyable. Give us a team that excites us (which at the moment will not take much) and you'll find that the atmosphere improves. Again, augmented match day experience and winning on the pitch can both happen. No one is talking about playing Creed songs mid match I assure you. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 15, 2024 1:06:55 GMT 1
Because they are just gimmicks and are often just cringeworthy. You bring in new supporters by winning games. It's that simple. Whenever the team has been successful, no-one has even mentioned the "matchday experience". Simply because they didn't need to, the atmosphere was buzzing because what we were watching on the pitch was enjoyable. Give us a team that excites us (which at the moment will not take much) and you'll find that the atmosphere improves. Again, augmented match day experience and winning on the pitch can both happen. No one is talking about playing Creed songs mid match I assure you. You said you're not trying to Americanize anything, but that's exactly what you want to do. Stuff like this has been tried before at clubs, including Town. It doesn't work, as we're there to watch the football. Do you really think people are going to turn up to watch a light show, or some spectacle before the match? You're 25 years too late as Barry Rubery tried all this when he took over and it soon wore off as football fans in this country just aren't interested. Sort the stuff out on the pitch, give us a competitive team at this level and a manager that tries to win games, and I promise you you'll see a difference. |
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 15, 2024 1:10:20 GMT 1
I don't mind being referred to as a customer in the slightest, in fact I welcome it, because I am one. I pay my money and expect a product to deliver on what I've paid for, its the same thing. For what it's worth Justasmithers I would suggest the majority of supporters are fully behind Kev and his intentions are clear to see. Has he got everything right? No, but then neither did Dean Hoyle or the numerous owners before him. It's a steep learning curve, granted but there doesn't appear (at least to me) to be any lack of enthusiasm or want of trying from the owners. It's clear that as fans we are just crying out for some entertainment on the pitch, because that yesterday was the opposite to entertainment. I brought my daughter, spent a fortune in the club shop and in the fan zone and she was bored out if her brains when it came to what we were actually there to see. There is more in that squad, even at its most threadbare, than what DM is getting out of them and that is down to boring negative anti football tactics. You only have to look at the regression in Koroma since Warnock left and DM took over. That's the frustration right there, that the manager just isn't cutting the mustard. |
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Post by Justasmithers on Jan 15, 2024 1:14:19 GMT 1
Again, augmented match day experience and winning on the pitch can both happen. No one is talking about playing Creed songs mid match I assure you. You said you're not trying to Americanize anything, but that's exactly what you want to do. Stuff like this has been tried before at clubs, including Town. It doesn't work, as we're there to watch the football. Do you really think people are going to turn up to watch a light show, or some spectacle before the match? You're 25 years too late as Barry Rubery tried all this when he took over and it soon wore off as football fans in this country just aren't interested. Sort the stuff out on the pitch, give us a competitive team at this level and a manager that tries to win games, and I promise you you'll see a difference. I am 100% not saying people would turn up for a light show etc, I’m saying if the results are there on the pitch no one WONT turn up because of a light show, and maybe others will enjoy it as an augmentation. No one is talking full Hollywood productions here. But also in seeing other English football presentations (man city last weekend for example), they’ve got augmented match day experiences (lights, pyro, etc) and supporters seem perfectly fine with those as an AUGMENTATION. Again, why not both? |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 15, 2024 1:18:40 GMT 1
You said you're not trying to Americanize anything, but that's exactly what you want to do. Stuff like this has been tried before at clubs, including Town. It doesn't work, as we're there to watch the football. Do you really think people are going to turn up to watch a light show, or some spectacle before the match? You're 25 years too late as Barry Rubery tried all this when he took over and it soon wore off as football fans in this country just aren't interested. Sort the stuff out on the pitch, give us a competitive team at this level and a manager that tries to win games, and I promise you you'll see a difference. I am 100% not saying people would turn up for a light show etc, I’m saying if the results are there on the pitch no one WONT turn up because of a light show, and maybe others will enjoy it as an augmentation. No one is talking full Hollywood productions here. But also in seeing other English football presentations (man city last weekend for example), they’ve got augmented match day experiences (lights, pyro, etc) and supporters seem perfectly fine with those as an AUGMENTATION. Again, why not both? Yeah, why not both. I agree. But at the minute, you've got neither. This is the most boring Town team in years. Probably going back to 2008 when Andy Ritchie was here and he actually won far more games than Moore has done, and he also oversaw a good Cup run. And, the only thing that's going to get people into the ground in the first place is a winning team, or at least a competitive team. What you don't want to do is lose supporters, because at Town once you lose supporters, it takes a long time to get them back. And one thing that certainly won't get them back is whacking the prices up next season or even worse, getting relegated. |
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Post by Justasmithers on Jan 15, 2024 1:21:16 GMT 1
I am 100% not saying people would turn up for a light show etc, I’m saying if the results are there on the pitch no one WONT turn up because of a light show, and maybe others will enjoy it as an augmentation. No one is talking full Hollywood productions here. But also in seeing other English football presentations (man city last weekend for example), they’ve got augmented match day experiences (lights, pyro, etc) and supporters seem perfectly fine with those as an AUGMENTATION. Again, why not both? Yeah, why not both. I agree. But at the minute, you've got neither. This is the most boring Town team in years. Probably going back to 2008 when Andy Ritchie was here and he actually won far more games than Moore has done, and he also oversaw a good Cup run. And, the only thing that's going to get people into the ground in the first place is a winning team, or at least a competitive team. What you don't want to do is lose supporters, because at Town once you lose supporters, it takes a long time to get them back. And one thing that certainly won't get them back is whacking the prices up next season or even worse, getting relegated. I assure you there is no one there that doesn’t realize results are #1, no ifs ands or buts |
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