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Post by rothwellterrier on Jan 15, 2024 17:09:06 GMT 1
Looks like Cartwright has delved into his book of contacts and fallen on the “Stoke” page again.
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Post by royrace on Jan 15, 2024 17:14:49 GMT 1
How did I guess it would be one of Cartwright's old mates. Highly unlikely to get the best when not using the whole of the market.
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Post by Towner47 on Jan 15, 2024 17:16:33 GMT 1
This connection to Stoke through Cartwright is getting down right ridiculous
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jan 15, 2024 17:19:24 GMT 1
"Rooster".
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Post by Yorkie on Jan 15, 2024 17:19:39 GMT 1
I’ll give it 2 weeks before he’s taking temporary charge of the first team
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Jan 15, 2024 17:20:51 GMT 1
Another job for the boys. Glad we are putting our club's future in Cartwright's hands. What could go wrong.
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Post by Sparrow on Jan 15, 2024 17:30:51 GMT 1
Whilst I get that it might not be a great look that he was at Stoke at the same time at Cartwright, it's no different to the likes of Warnock using the same coaching staff throughout large parts of his managerial career? Seemed to work ok for him. Many other very very successful managers have done the same.
Over and above his 8 seasons working in Stoke's Academy - developing players for a Premier League / Championship club - he has also had 13 years working as a First Team Assistant Manager / Coach at Championship and L1 & 2 level.
Over 20 year's coaching experience from U18's Premier League Academy level to Championship first team level.
I'd suggest he's possibly / probably the most experienced coach we have at the club.
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Post by rooster on Jan 15, 2024 17:35:09 GMT 1
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Post by steo1986 on Jan 15, 2024 17:35:50 GMT 1
Joke. They are intent on ripping the guts out of the existing set up and pssing off lots of loyal staff at many levels. Kick in the nuts for Worthy. More to come, without a doubt. Not really a kick in the Nuts is it, Worthy was doing 2 jobs plus with the new academy setup that's been put in place we needed a full time manager that's what they have got now and worthy can now revert back to his job as academy manager |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jan 15, 2024 17:36:50 GMT 1
Shame he’s not 30 years younger. I seem to remember he was a pretty decent striker.
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Post by portugalterrier on Jan 15, 2024 17:36:54 GMT 1
Alex Neil was given free range at Stoke, virtually replaced all the academy coaches with his own appointments, a lot of quality academy staff moved out, Russell was one, makes sense if we are rebuilding the academy.
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Post by paulmat on Jan 15, 2024 17:38:27 GMT 1
I know some fans want to be angry with everything right now but:
The 'ridiculous' Stoke connection, that's just Edwards and now this guy right? Am I missing anybody else? And there's some debate as to weather Edwards was a Cartwright signing. As has been said above, if you've worked with somebody before and you know he's good, is that a bad thing? He seems to have good credentials.
'Kick in the nuts for Worthy' - Jon Worthington is leading the academy expansion, his remit has increased massively so should he really have to lead the B team as well as that? Out of the two roles I would say the acaademy manager was much higher profile especially with the new setup going forward, and they've been seperate roles historically. (Edit: this has also been pointed out above as I was typing)
There's plenty to be cross about at the moment. Not sure this appointment is something to get too angry about however.
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 15, 2024 17:38:40 GMT 1
This connection to Stoke through Cartwright is getting down right ridiculous Unless I've missed something, I think this is only the 2nd addition from the Stoke connection. OK, that right back we've got on loan hasn't exactly sparkled, but one player & one coach doesn't strike me as ridiculous. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 15, 2024 17:40:41 GMT 1
Alex Neil was given free range at Stoke, virtually replaced all the academy coaches with his own appointments, a lot of quality academy staff moved out, Russell was one, makes sense if we are rebuilding the academy. I see what you did there. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 15, 2024 17:43:00 GMT 1
Whilst I get that it might not be a great look that he was at Stoke at the same time at Cartwright, it's no different to the likes of Warnock using the same coaching staff throughout large parts of his managerial career? Seemed to work ok for him. Many other very very successful managers have done the same. Over and above his 8 seasons working in Stoke's Academy - developing players for a Premier League / Championship club - he has also had 13 years working as a First Team Assistant Manager / Coach at Championship and L1 & 2 level. Over 20 year's coaching experience from U18's Premier League Academy level to Championship first team level. I'd suggest he's possibly / probably the most experienced coach we have at the club. I'd agree with that, but surely one of the advantages of having a Sporting Director overseeing everything is that they can look at a wider talent pool than the manager who likes his own team around him. |
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Post by incognito on Jan 15, 2024 17:43:52 GMT 1
Joke. They are intent on ripping the guts out of the existing set up and pssing off lots of loyal staff at many levels. Kick in the nuts for Worthy. More to come, without a doubt. Would Worthy rather be the B-Team coach or the Academy Manager? I can't imagine him occupying both positions was ever intended to be a permanent situation, more a reflection of the club being in limbo for a year... |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jan 15, 2024 17:44:57 GMT 1
Alex Neil was given free range at Stoke, virtually replaced all the academy coaches with his own appointments, a lot of quality academy staff moved out, Russell was one, makes sense if we are rebuilding the academy. Can i ask why do you rate Cartwright so highly, that every appointment he makes must be right and can't go wrong am just curious do you know him personally or something ? |
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Post by ambryboy on Jan 15, 2024 17:47:16 GMT 1
Alex Neil was given free range at Stoke, virtually replaced all the academy coaches with his own appointments, a lot of quality academy staff moved out, Russell was one, makes sense if we are rebuilding the academy. Well let's see what Steve Chicken makes of it. |
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Post by dm on Jan 15, 2024 17:49:52 GMT 1
Alex Neil was given free range at Stoke, virtually replaced all the academy coaches with his own appointments, a lot of quality academy staff moved out, Russell was one, makes sense if we are rebuilding the academy. Can i ask why do you rate Cartwright so highly, that every appointment he makes must be right and can't go wrong am just curious do you know him personally or something ? Probably more reasonable to give everyone a chance before they get lambasted like the rest. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jan 15, 2024 17:54:17 GMT 1
Mark Hughes getting measured up for the manager’s suit as we speak.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jan 15, 2024 18:05:53 GMT 1
Can i ask why do you rate Cartwright so highly, that every appointment he makes must be right and can't go wrong am just curious do you know him personally or something ? Probably more reasonable to give everyone a chance before they get lambasted like the rest. I am not saying not to, but to many who have already stated it just seems rather odd how Cartwright appoints staff ? Moore i met him once , Russell i was at Stoke with him. Yet if you ask Stoke fans and even our very own Maynardblue about Cartwright it all seems rather strange , far too cosy. Edwards and Cartwright played together at Wrexham, you know mates doing each other a solid etc. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jan 15, 2024 18:06:50 GMT 1
Did Cartwright employ Rowett at Stoke?
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Post by portugalterrier on Jan 15, 2024 18:09:12 GMT 1
Mark Hughes getting measured up for the manager’s suit as we speak. I have more chance of managing Town than Mark Hughes. |
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Post by rockwall on Jan 15, 2024 18:09:32 GMT 1
Warnock brings his own staff in, ditching clements too. But that's okay because it's Warnock.
Cartwright bring a very experienced man in to take up a new full time role and its negative??
Can't believe the amount of people that go through life always finding something to moan about.
How have Nicholls and the goalkeepers done since Warnock ditched Clements?
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Post by portugalterrier on Jan 15, 2024 18:10:00 GMT 1
Alex Neil was given free range at Stoke, virtually replaced all the academy coaches with his own appointments, a lot of quality academy staff moved out, Russell was one, makes sense if we are rebuilding the academy. I see what you did there. Wish I could take the credit ! |
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Post by rockwall on Jan 15, 2024 18:10:09 GMT 1
Mark Hughes getting measured up for the manager’s suit as we speak. I have more chance of managing Town than Mark Hughes. Rather him dig his boots out. Could do a job currently for us |
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Post by portugalterrier on Jan 15, 2024 18:10:25 GMT 1
Did Cartwright employ Rowett at Stoke? No. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jan 15, 2024 18:10:36 GMT 1
Did Cartwright employ Rowett at Stoke? No he had already gone by that point. Cartwright that is. |
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Post by portugalterrier on Jan 15, 2024 18:12:16 GMT 1
Alex Neil was given free range at Stoke, virtually replaced all the academy coaches with his own appointments, a lot of quality academy staff moved out, Russell was one, makes sense if we are rebuilding the academy. Can i ask why do you rate Cartwright so highly, that every appointment he makes must be right and can't go wrong am just curious do you know him personally or something ? Where have I said I rate Cartwright ? |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jan 15, 2024 18:17:02 GMT 1
Can i ask why do you rate Cartwright so highly, that every appointment he makes must be right and can't go wrong am just curious do you know him personally or something ? Where have I said I rate Cartwright ? You have said he is highly rated and regarded in football quite a few times, which judging by what stoke fans and what Maynardblue has said can't be true. Plus his decision making in terms of the key roles to date doesn't smack of what a great and highly regarded figure in football. People called Fotheringham a chancer, hmmm i think we have one as a football ops right now more like. Seems far too cosy to me, Edwards and Cartwright pals doing each other a solid. Then Cartwright getting all his old "stoke friends" a job his "connections" in football don't seem that broad , midlands area only it seems. The i had a convo with Moore and from then one wanted to work with him, nahhh there is more to it than that am sorry i don't believe that for a second. |
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