|
Post by tepidterrier on Jul 15, 2024 16:08:35 GMT 1
People saying we’ve got CB replacements. There’s no one in the whole back line that can split a pass or loft a ball over the top like Balker did with ease… don’t think Town can sit back and think ‘Oh we can make it work with what we’ve got’ have to go out and spend money on a proper ball playing CB now IMO This. We have no CB who can break forward and play a pass like Balker can. His ball out to Headley against Harrogate was sublime. Desperately need a replacement IMHO I wasn't the biggest fan of his, but is Nakayama still training with us? We need a left footer and he at least somewhat fits that mould.
|
|
|
Post by htafcdreams on Jul 15, 2024 16:10:18 GMT 1
Might put the brakes on a potential Helik sale
Spencer assume will be a stand in CB (only one we have with some pace) with Ruffles potentially being back up
|
|
|
Post by htafcokay on Jul 15, 2024 16:22:20 GMT 1
This. We have no CB who can break forward and play a pass like Balker can. His ball out to Headley against Harrogate was sublime. Desperately need a replacement IMHO I wasn't the biggest fan of his, but is Nakayama still training with us? We need a left footer and he at least somewhat fits that mould.What, injured?
|
|
|
Post by nickhtafc82 on Jul 15, 2024 16:27:23 GMT 1
Yuta, another one blighted by injuries.He can't be blamed for the freak collision with Hoggy though.
I hope he is recovering well.
Not sure he's cut out physically for league one, but he has definite quality and is a known quantity as a character.
We had so many sift tissue issues last season, I'm sure questions have been asked internally at the club.
|
|
|
Post by htafcokay on Jul 15, 2024 16:28:44 GMT 1
We let Ruffels go at the end of 2022-23 and then re-signed him a month later. The fans have done nothing but complain about that decision in the last few months. So why would we do the same with Nakayama?
|
|
|
Post by Torquayterrier on Jul 15, 2024 16:56:19 GMT 1
Where do we find these players? There’s thousands of capable players around the world and yet somehow town seem to sign duds more often than not. We just wait until there's a sale on at the glass footballer emporium.
|
|
|
Post by blueandwhiteterrier on Jul 15, 2024 17:06:54 GMT 1
Where do we find these players? There’s thousands of capable players around the world and yet somehow town seem to sign duds more often than not. We just wait until there's a sale on at the glass footballer emporium. 🤣😂 You speak the truth
|
|
|
Post by blueandwhiteterrier on Jul 15, 2024 17:08:19 GMT 1
Yuta, another one blighted by injuries.He can't be blamed for the freak collision with Hoggy though. I hope he is recovering well. Not sure he's cut out physically for league one, but he has definite quality and is a known quantity as a character. We had so many sift tissue issues last season, I'm sure questions have been asked internally at the club. Yuta's contract ended and no one's mentioned renewing it. I believe he's gone.
|
|
|
Post by fredcarno1 on Jul 15, 2024 17:16:35 GMT 1
Buy players that have shocking injury records and they get injured !!! Who’d have thought it. Hope Helik and Spencer don’t go or we’re really going to struggle, not seen Lees in pre season up to press and Pearson looks to be well past his best.
|
|
|
Post by fredcarno1 on Jul 15, 2024 17:22:03 GMT 1
Where do we find these players? There’s thousands of capable players around the world and yet somehow town seem to sign duds more often than not. January was the best transfer window in years according to many on here. It consisted of a crock centre half, a striker from the Finnish farmers League and a young clogger from Chelsea.
|
|
|
Post by harri54 on Jul 15, 2024 18:01:36 GMT 1
There are some outstanding hindsight geniuses on here! All buttering each other up. It makes me feel ill, it's so sick.
|
|
|
Post by tepidterrier on Jul 15, 2024 19:12:47 GMT 1
I wasn't the biggest fan of his, but is Nakayama still training with us? We need a left footer and he at least somewhat fits that mould.What, injured? 🤣 got me there to be fair
|
|
|
Post by htafcdreams on Jul 15, 2024 19:45:07 GMT 1
Didn’t the announcer say on Sat “the injury isn’t as bad as feared guys” 5 mins after Balker was taken off
Did our Yorkshire Physio team say “walk it off Radionio lad” on touch line
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2024 20:00:53 GMT 1
With the system Duff plays he seems to be happy to have players like Turton, Ruffels & Spencer as centre backs. If you think of them as centrally based defenders, rather than the traditional big lad who could head it or knock the opposition strikers around, that is fine. We also have Ayina and Eccleston, who was used as a centre back against Harrogate. If defenders can be used flexibly in different positions then we don't need to look to replace Balker in this window. I know the likes of Helik, Lees & Pearson won't be tried as wing backs but central defenders can be more varied.
|
|
|
Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 15, 2024 20:18:13 GMT 1
With the system Duff plays he seems to be happy to have players like Turton, Ruffels & Spencer as centre backs. If you think of them as centrally based defenders, rather than the traditional big lad who could head it or knock the opposition strikers around, that is fine. We also have Ayina and Eccleston, who was used as a centre back against Harrogate. If defenders can be used flexibly in different positions then we don't need to look to replace Balker in this window. I know the likes of Helik, Lees & Pearson won't be tried as wing backs but central defenders can be more varied. Turton was all over the place at Harrogate and not in a good way. I wouldn't want him playing anywhere other than as an out and out fullback, which doesn't appear to be Duff's way. Ruffles on the other hand looked quite comfortable at left centre back in the second half, but again we need a specialist left sided central defender rather than a makeshift.
|
|
|
Post by Terriersmad on Jul 15, 2024 21:13:02 GMT 1
Didn’t the announcer say on Sat “the injury isn’t as bad as feared guys” 5 mins after Balker was taken off Did our Yorkshire Physio team say “walk it off Radionio lad” on touch line He said 'we hope it isn't as bad as it looks'. The poor lad cannot catch a break. Thigh. Back. Knees. And now ankle. There really is nothing that can be done about it either. Rather like both Nakayama injuries. Sheer bad luck on this one, which no medical team can legislate for. It's not soft-tissue, it's not an existing issue, it's just one moment of awful fortune. It really is whack-a-mole with his injuries, which nobody is to blame for. We do need to bring in a quick, ball-playing central defender now. Preferably someone left-footed, too; Balker might be right-footed, but it's a glaring issue with our potential back threes that we don't have a left-footed player at all who can be a central defender. Ruffels might have slotted in there in pre-season, but he's not a long-term option in that position.
|
|
|
Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 15, 2024 21:37:16 GMT 1
Didn’t the announcer say on Sat “the injury isn’t as bad as feared guys” 5 mins after Balker was taken off Did our Yorkshire Physio team say “walk it off Radionio lad” on touch line He said 'we hope it isn't as bad as it looks'. The poor lad cannot catch a break. Thigh. Back. Knees. And now ankle. There really is nothing that can be done about it either. Rather like both Nakayama injuries. Sheer bad luck on this one, which no medical team can legislate for. It's not soft-tissue, it's not an existing issue, it's just one moment of awful fortune. It really is whack-a-mole with his injuries, which nobody is to blame for. We do need to bring in a quick, ball-playing central defender now. Preferably someone left-footed, too; Balker might be right-footed, but it's a glaring issue with our potential back threes that we don't have a left-footed player at all who can be a central defender. Ruffels might have slotted in there in pre-season, but he's not a long-term option in that position. I think the need for ball playing centre backs is being overplayed a bit on here. It's league one not the champions league. How often do you see sides in league one with centre backs who are good on the ball? Very rare. The most important thing is that they can defend and in Pearson, Helik, Lees we definitely have 3 of the best at this level. The problem now comes if they get injured as the others are full backs filling in centrally. I'm pretty sure Duff will know exactly the type of player he wants to sign given it was the position he played.
|
|
|
Post by uptownfunk on Jul 16, 2024 2:01:41 GMT 1
I liked Joel Lynch. He was left footed and what a left foot. All professional footballers should be able to score at least one type of goal. For most defenders that’s the headed goal but Lynch had the 35 yard pile driver.
Andy Butler was left footed and I thought he wasn’t bad at the time for league two/one.
Can’t think of any others off top of my head. Kongolo! Best defender I’ve seen at town in his loan spell. I remember Tottenham had paid even more maybe £40m for Davison Sanchez and we played them and I felt Kongolo was better player at half the price iirc.
|
|
|
Post by specialun on Jul 16, 2024 8:37:02 GMT 1
With the system Duff plays he seems to be happy to have players like Turton, Ruffels & Spencer as centre backs. If you think of them as centrally based defenders, rather than the traditional big lad who could head it or knock the opposition strikers around, that is fine. We also have Ayina and Eccleston, who was used as a centre back against Harrogate. If defenders can be used flexibly in different positions then we don't need to look to replace Balker in this window. I know the likes of Helik, Lees & Pearson won't be tried as wing backs but central defenders can be more varied. Turton was all over the place at Harrogate and not in a good way. I wouldn't want him playing anywhere other than as an out and out fullback, which doesn't appear to be Duff's way. Ruffles on the other hand looked quite comfortable at left centre back in the second half, but again we need a specialist left sided central defender rather than a makeshift. Re Turton who was right wing back? If he’s got a winger there he’s going to struggle as hell get stretched have the space between wing / right sided cb and get pulled all over the place (which sounds to be what you’re describing - not too different imo of Pearson right sided cb in that situation with a winger who won’t defend, less issue of Spencer), if he’s got a defender who can also get forward he could do a solid back up job in that role depends on the system If it’s intended to be an attacking 352 / 343 less reliance on the wide players in the 4 to defend then he’ll struggle anywhere and needs mobile right / left centre half, if more 532 /352 with wing back who defends I think he’d be ok - but put it like this unless we’re playing 532 he isn’t going to be wing back Either way he’d be ok as back up, good pro to have around - surely can’t be expecting him to be more than that after more or less 18m out
|
|
|
Post by townarentbest on Jul 16, 2024 9:43:13 GMT 1
Didn’t the announcer say on Sat “the injury isn’t as bad as feared guys” 5 mins after Balker was taken off Did our Yorkshire Physio team say “walk it off Radionio lad” on touch line He said 'we hope it isn't as bad as it looks'. The poor lad cannot catch a break. Thigh. Back. Knees. And now ankle. There really is nothing that can be done about it either. Rather like both Nakayama injuries. Sheer bad luck on this one, which no medical team can legislate for. It's not soft-tissue, it's not an existing issue, it's just one moment of awful fortune. It really is whack-a-mole with his injuries, which nobody is to blame for. We do need to bring in a quick, ball-playing central defender now. Preferably someone left-footed, too; Balker might be right-footed, but it's a glaring issue with our potential back threes that we don't have a left-footed player at all who can be a central defender. Ruffels might have slotted in there in pre-season, but he's not a long-term option in that position. We need Colwill mark II on loan for half a season.
|
|
|
Post by townarentbest on Jul 16, 2024 9:46:57 GMT 1
How often do you see sides in league one with centre backs who are good on the ball? Very rare. The most important thing is that they can defend and in Pearson, Helik, Lees we definitely have 3 of the best at this level. What about if you change the criteria to "How often do you see sides who get promoted from league one with centre backs who are good on the ball?" I bet the answer changes.
|
|
|
Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 16, 2024 9:57:10 GMT 1
How often do you see sides in league one with centre backs who are good on the ball? Very rare. The most important thing is that they can defend and in Pearson, Helik, Lees we definitely have 3 of the best at this level. What about if you change the criteria to "How often do you see sides who get promoted from league one with centre backs who are good on the ball?" I bet the answer changes. Go on then, name them
|
|
|
Post by townarentbest on Jul 16, 2024 10:58:27 GMT 1
What about if you change the criteria to "How often do you see sides who get promoted from league one with centre backs who are good on the ball?" I bet the answer changes. Go on then, name them Why? I can't name more than 3 or 4 Premier League defenders I'm hardly likely to know the names of defenders from the teams that got promoted out of League 1!! But - it took less than 30 seconds to find [this reference] & [this reference] to ball playing defenders in the two teams that just got promoted out of League 1 - so as I say, they're NOT "very rare" if we're setting ourselves up to compare against sides that get promoted (which hopefully we are doing) 🤷♂️
|
|