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Post by fredcarno1 on Feb 4, 2024 11:15:22 GMT 1
That was great to see a 4-0 win, first time for a long time I’d imagine. However, we need to be careful not to get euphoric about this one. Wed gave us the 4th goal and arguably the first should have been better defended. The other 2 were sharp play from us and 2 good finishes. (although the Wed player who tossed the ball back to us for the FK for the third goal will be kicking himself) This isn’t a pro DM post, but one swallow doesn’t make a summer, the first half was more of the same. This wasn’t dissimilar to the home game v Blackburn, when we were on the front foot and led by pace. Maybe this is the way we need to go? Hope that the pace of our front players (inc. Burgzorg) does the job while our back line do theirs? A great win though, and obviously huge in creating a bigger gap to one of our relegation rivals. Next week will obviously be a sterner test against a side that’s not lost in months, but who knows…. I’m sure Saintly Terrier will be hoping for the bragging rights on Mon 12th… Agree to an extent that 4-0 flattered, however not once in Moore’s tenure have we remotely looked like scoring 4. Hypothetical I know but on the evidence of the last 23 games at 1-0 up we’d have dropped into a low block and looked to hold on and invited Wednesday onto us for 25 minutes. |
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Post by goodbet on Feb 4, 2024 11:17:14 GMT 1
When I heard that Helik and Rudoni were missing my heart sank (IMO our two best players) but thankfully we got the points. Good job the two 'centre forwards' departed, they look like a complete waste of money. I thought we looked awful until Pearson stooped to head in the excellent corner from Thomas; and I thought Wiles was much better than usual. But I hope everyone isn't getting carried away - as the bloke sitting next to me said half way through the first half 'I can't see this team escaping relegation'. I doubt that many of us are getting carried away. We won't turn from DM's negative team in to a free flowing attacking eleven overnight. It was just good to finally see us take a step in the right direction. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 4, 2024 11:17:49 GMT 1
We beat Blackburn 3-0 with a far better performance and could have had more.
Koroma’s chance v Boro where he hit the bar could have seen us win 2 in quick succession.
We really weren’t all bad under DM, but granted it was dire for too many games.
Let’s see how we set up next week, maybe abandoning the striker option is the way forward for us?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 4, 2024 11:18:11 GMT 1
That was great to see a 4-0 win, first time for a long time I’d imagine. However, we need to be careful not to get euphoric about this one. Wed gave us the 4th goal and arguably the first should have been better defended. The other 2 were sharp play from us and 2 good finishes. (although the Wed player who tossed the ball back to us for the FK for the third goal will be kicking himself) This isn’t a pro DM post, but one swallow doesn’t make a summer, the first half was more of the same. This wasn’t dissimilar to the home game v Blackburn, when we were on the front foot and led by pace. Maybe this is the way we need to go? Hope that the pace of our front players (inc. Burgzorg) does the job while our back line do theirs? A great win though, and obviously huge in creating a bigger gap to one of our relegation rivals. Next week will obviously be a sterner test against a side that’s not lost in months, but who knows…. I’m sure Saintly Terrier will be hoping for the bragging rights on Mon 12th… Agree to an extent that 4-0 flattered, however not once in Moore’s tenure have we remotely looked like scoring 4. Hypothetical I know but on the evidence of the last 23 games at 1-0 up we’d have dropped into a low block and looked to hold on and invited Wednesday onto us for 25 minutes. We had enough simple chances at Blackburn to easily score 4 |
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Post by goodbet on Feb 4, 2024 11:28:49 GMT 1
Perhaps getting ahead of myself, but how do we fit Pearson, Balker, Helik, Lees, Nakayama into a back 3/4? Unless it's the Keighley Cannavaro RB, Yuta LB and perm 2 from 3 Bit to mention at some point Ruffels and the Ginger Cafu are due back (2026 for Turton I guess, sadly) Lees & Pearson have been far better recruits for us than I thought they would be & have never let us down, however, my 1st choice back 4 currently (& that can easily change with the others pushing for their places) would be: Spencer Balker Helik Nakayama Spencer as he's matured so well, even though he's only 19 still, Balker for some pace & quality on the ball, Helik as he's the best we have & Nakayama for his composure & passing. However, this window has now allowed us options all over the pitch & noone can be coasting now as our bench has gone from being filled with kids that had no hope of getting a game to genuine 1st team contenders waiting their chance for someone to drop their standards. I'm not going overboard & saying we are certainties to avoid relegation but we are in a lot better position now than we were at the end of 2023. I know I'm stating the bleeding obvious but this next managerial appointment is crucial, if we get someone who can get the best out of this squad, we'll be ok. Before we signed Lees and Person remember the old Centre backs we signed previously over 30 with a turning circle of an oil tanker. Saying that Lees and Person are getting to their end game now. It was all part of the cost saving and planned demise by Dean in the days following relegation. |
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Post by detox on Feb 4, 2024 11:34:07 GMT 1
Probably been mentioned elsewhere but our last 25 games has seen us go through a sequence of winning one, then failing to win next 5, and so on right up to yesterday. Hope we don't go another 5 without winning now though..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 12:00:06 GMT 1
As bad as Sheffield Wednesday were, there is no way we would have won that 4-0 under Moore. He would have set up very differently and played for a draw. Ok, first half wasn’t great. I actually think the wind played a factor. The injuries I think actually helped in that healey wasn’t great and Wiles played very well. Sometimes teams and formations etc just seem to come together. Either way, we wouldn’t have played those forward balls or gone looking to capitalise on what we had. There was also better movement. Never going to complain about a 4-0 win. I now sit in the upper tier of the family stand so I watched our first half defensive display. Losing Rudoni, I think, threw us a bit. Sorba was trying to play on the front foot, keeping a high line but Matos was playing more centrally with Hogg trying to be an outlet on the left. This left a gap between Sorba and Matty Pearson. With Bannan linking play down that side, and them having a tricky winger, it caused us problems. Radinio started moving across to cover Pearson, he put in one really good block, but it was still a bit scary. Healey was being asked to play out of position and Radulovic isn't quick enough to play the system we wanted to play and you could see a lack of cohesion. Once Healey went off, and Wiles came on, the balance started to change. Wiles was playing the Rudoni role more on the left, Hogg moved more central and Matos pushed right to help down that side. We were still getting caught offside on quick breaks though. Second half you could see Radinio start to settle. The little stoop to head back to Nicholls whilst under pressure was lovely. The biggest change was when Diarra came on and Koroma moved to the centre. We looked quick all over the pitch after that, and brave going forward. You could see the confidence growing and when the first goal went in it really was shackles off. No blame on Radulovic and Healey, the setup really didn't suit either of them. It will be interesting to see, given how much sharper we looked after Diarra came on, how we setup against Southampton. |
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Post by twyford on Feb 4, 2024 12:22:27 GMT 1
As bad as Sheffield Wednesday were, there is no way we would have won that 4-0 under Moore. He would have set up very differently and played for a draw. Ok, first half wasn’t great. I actually think the wind played a factor. The injuries I think actually helped in that healey wasn’t great and Wiles played very well. Sometimes teams and formations etc just seem to come together. Either way, we wouldn’t have played those forward balls or gone looking to capitalise on what we had. There was also better movement. Never going to complain about a 4-0 win. I now sit in the upper tier of the family stand so I watched our first half defensive display. Losing Rudoni, I think, threw us a bit. Sorba was trying to play on the front foot, keeping a high line but Matos was playing more centrally with Hogg trying to be an outlet on the left. This left a gap between Sorba and Matty Pearson. With Bannan linking play down that side, and them having a tricky winger, it caused us problems. Radinio started moving across to cover Pearson, he put in one really good block, but it was still a bit scary. Healey was being asked to play out of position and Radulovic isn't quick enough to play the system we wanted to play and you could see a lack of cohesion. Once Healey went off, and Wiles came on, the balance started to change. Wiles was playing the Rudoni role more on the left, Hogg moved more central and Matos pushed right to help down that side. We were still getting caught offside on quick breaks though. Second half you could see Radinio start to settle. The little stoop to head back to Nicholls whilst under pressure was lovely. The biggest change was when Diarra came on and Koroma moved to the centre. We looked quick all over the pitch after that, and brave going forward. You could see the confidence growing and when the first goal went in it really was shackles off. No blame on Radulovic and Healey, the setup really didn't suit either of them. It will be interesting to see, given how much sharper we looked after Diarra came on, how we setup against Southampton. I remember Pearson giving Thomas a real bollocking in the first half when he didn't think Thomas had come back with his player. I may well be reading something into nothing but there was no acknowledgement (on the pitch) of Thomas's cross by Pearson after he scored the first goal - noticeably different to the acknowledgement Thomas gave to Hogg after Thomas got the third. |
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Post by impact on Feb 4, 2024 13:31:53 GMT 1
Agree to an extent that 4-0 flattered, however not once in Moore’s tenure have we remotely looked like scoring 4. Hypothetical I know but on the evidence of the last 23 games at 1-0 up we’d have dropped into a low block and looked to hold on and invited Wednesday onto us for 25 minutes. We had enough simple chances at Blackburn to easily score 4 Had we scored one of them to get the lead we'd have sat back for the rest of the game defending and the other chances wouldn't have materialised. |
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Feb 4, 2024 13:37:42 GMT 1
Very enjoyable in the end yesterday!
First goal was always going to be massive - two teams with fragile confidence. Football is a funny game and confidence and momentum can change so quickly. A set piece goal and they looked deflated and we looked invigorated and the shackles came off. Reminded me of the 4 quick-fire second half goals v Middlesbrough last season.
Great to see Koroma and Thomas in attacking positions - they are very talented lads and two players I have always rated. Skilful attackers / wide forwards are often by the very nature of it, quite inconsistent because when given the licence to do so, they try things to score / create goals and it doesn’t always come off. Players that do it week in week out are elite players because of that consistency.
Koroma and Thomas are great to watch - some weeks it won’t come off, but for me you play them every week in their best positions and give them the licence to try and make things happen.
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Post by impact on Feb 4, 2024 13:40:24 GMT 1
Very enjoyable in the end yesterday! First goal was always going to be massive - two teams with fragile confidence. Football is a funny game and confidence and momentum can change so quickly. A set piece goal and they looked deflated and we looked invigorated and the shackles came off. Reminded me of the 4 quick-fire second half goals v Middlesbrough last season. Great to see Koroma and Thomas in attacking positions - they are very talented lads and two players I have always rated. Skilful attackers / wide forwards are often by the very nature of it, quite inconsistent because when given the licence to do so, they try things to score / create goals and it doesn’t always come off. Players that do it week in week out are elite players because of that consistency. Koroma and Thomas are great to watch - some weeks it won’t come off, but for me you play them every week in their best positions and give them the licence to try and make things happen. You are so right about Thomas. He had a terrible first 20 minutes but he kept trying things and ended up being the match turner. |
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Post by Uddersfield on Feb 4, 2024 13:43:19 GMT 1
We beat Blackburn 3-0 with a far better performance and could have had more. Koroma’s chance v Boro where he hit the bar could have seen us win 2 in quick succession. We really weren’t all bad under DM, but granted it was dire for too many games. Let’s see how we set up next week, maybe abandoning the striker option is the way forward for us? Was worried after the first half but 2nd we looked more dangerous. Under DM there’s no chance that Hoggy attempts that ball to Sorba for the 3rd. |
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Post by yappledapple on Feb 4, 2024 13:44:04 GMT 1
Think we’ve lost Healey for a while. Watched him stretch to clear the ball at waste height with his studs just outside our box and pulled his groin; clear as day from where I sit. Went straight down the tunnel as well.
Another one on the injury list 🤷♂️
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 4, 2024 13:48:41 GMT 1
Think we’ve lost Healey for a while. Watched him stretch to clear the ball at waste height with his studs just outside our box and pulled his groin; clear as day from where I sit. Went straight down the tunnel as well. Another one on the injury list 🤷♂️ He had done it well before then. Happened up near the corner flag between away end and Riverside. He spent a good 10 minutes trying to play through it and stretching it only for the incident you are referring to making it worse |
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Post by utttrooper on Feb 4, 2024 13:57:36 GMT 1
There would be no way we would have won that 4-0 under Moore. We would have gone 1-0 up and sat back, probably would have got the second as it came from us defending just after the first but we'd have just sat back, Hogg would have been told to play the free kick sideways and Sorba would never have been told to press so far up to force the error for the fourth and taking into account our tendency to make mistakes under Moore we would have most likely conceded
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Feb 4, 2024 14:03:06 GMT 1
I remember Pearson giving Thomas a real bollocking in the first half when he didn't think Thomas had come back with his player.I may well be reading something into nothing but there was no acknowledgement (on the pitch) of Thomas's cross by Pearson after he scored the first goal - noticeably different to the acknowledgement Thomas gave to Hogg after Thomas got the third. Yes, I saw that too and commented on it. They exchanged some very fruity words I believe! |
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Post by sabailand on Feb 4, 2024 14:15:34 GMT 1
Very enjoyable in the end yesterday! First goal was always going to be massive - two teams with fragile confidence. Football is a funny game and confidence and momentum can change so quickly. A set piece goal and they looked deflated and we looked invigorated and the shackles came off. Reminded me of the 4 quick-fire second half goals v Middlesbrough last season. Great to see Koroma and Thomas in attacking positions - they are very talented lads and two players I have always rated. Skilful attackers / wide forwards are often by the very nature of it, quite inconsistent because when given the licence to do so, they try things to score / create goals and it doesn’t always come off. Players that do it week in week out are elite players because of that consistency. Koroma and Thomas are great to watch - some weeks it won’t come off, but for me you play them every week in their best positions and give them the licence to try and make things happen. Agree especially about Thomas, frustrating at times but has the ability to deliver as shown yesterday with a goal and an assist, both him and Koroma are confidence players. |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Feb 4, 2024 14:28:15 GMT 1
Think yesterday was probably Wiles' best showing in a Town shirt once he came on. He looked like the player we thought we'd signed.
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Post by sabailand on Feb 4, 2024 14:31:57 GMT 1
I can't believe the difference between the Spencer who left and the one who has come back. He's gone from someone who I thought had no chance of making it to a player we could make a small fortune from. He left for Motherwell a boy, he came back a man. The kid looks superb. My problem now is trying to tell whether it's him or Radinio at first glance. They mothered him well for us, its like having a new signing. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Feb 4, 2024 15:58:52 GMT 1
PenistoneHudd just doing a jig in front of his mates in the pub after our win. My boss and workmates are all Wednesday Atm..I'm resisting being a smug bastard and texting them...Town fans have more class😁 No burner? |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Feb 4, 2024 16:03:05 GMT 1
Today First half, we did try and be more attacking, but seemed a bit edgey without giving away any proper chances to sheff wed. 2nd half altough we had lost both our "cf's" we seem to press onto sheff wed a lot more and break their play a lot higher, which allowed us to get more chances. We found the gaps between centre halfs and full bacs a lot easier.The key point is that once we got the first goal, unlike under moore the players stepped on to get more goals , which is a key part. Matos getting around the pitch instead of being deep was key. The players today also made sure they did the basics right which is key also. All in all its a good win and something we needed obviously. Exactly - once you've stunned and opponent you stop punching, you up the intensity and go for the knockout. Like yesterday |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Feb 4, 2024 16:05:46 GMT 1
They'll never learn that lot. Bless em Is that the kid that booked the top floor of the holiday in for this trip to wembley.   |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 4, 2024 16:06:31 GMT 1
For 60 odd minutes I just couldn't see us scoring,,even less so when the two forwards went off injured.
Couldn't see them scoring either..if ever a game had 0-0 written all over it , that was it.
Then we get 4 in 12 minutes or something!!
Footballs all about moments and that game the moments went our way, from Lees clearance over his bar in the first half which could easily have gone in our net,,Healey being on the line to clear from the resulting corner, to players cooly taking their chances when they came.
Im not sure about Spencer myself. Hes a bit 'Titus Bramble' in that he seems to do great bits of play and lousy errors in equal measure.
theres a player there but his decision making needs work IMO.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Feb 4, 2024 16:10:16 GMT 1
I'm maybe overplaying it, but I thought Balker looked immense. Don’t think it’s overplaying it. Looked calm, composed and very capable with the ball at his feet. Looks a great signing. Future captain |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 17:08:33 GMT 1
I now sit in the upper tier of the family stand so I watched our first half defensive display. Losing Rudoni, I think, threw us a bit. Sorba was trying to play on the front foot, keeping a high line but Matos was playing more centrally with Hogg trying to be an outlet on the left. This left a gap between Sorba and Matty Pearson. With Bannan linking play down that side, and them having a tricky winger, it caused us problems. Radinio started moving across to cover Pearson, he put in one really good block, but it was still a bit scary. Healey was being asked to play out of position and Radulovic isn't quick enough to play the system we wanted to play and you could see a lack of cohesion. Once Healey went off, and Wiles came on, the balance started to change. Wiles was playing the Rudoni role more on the left, Hogg moved more central and Matos pushed right to help down that side. We were still getting caught offside on quick breaks though. Second half you could see Radinio start to settle. The little stoop to head back to Nicholls whilst under pressure was lovely. The biggest change was when Diarra came on and Koroma moved to the centre. We looked quick all over the pitch after that, and brave going forward. You could see the confidence growing and when the first goal went in it really was shackles off. No blame on Radulovic and Healey, the setup really didn't suit either of them. It will be interesting to see, given how much sharper we looked after Diarra came on, how we setup against Southampton. I remember Pearson giving Thomas a real bollocking in the first half when he didn't think Thomas had come back with his player. I may well be reading something into nothing but there was no acknowledgement (on the pitch) of Thomas's cross by Pearson after he scored the first goal - noticeably different to the acknowledgement Thomas gave to Hogg after Thomas got the third. Two things. Firstly Pearson moved towards the Kilner Bank stand to celebrate, so away from the corner Sorba was in. Also Pearson is a very no nonsense type of player so probably not a natural mate for Sorba. I think the first part is the bigger reason though. |
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Post by 28901 on Feb 4, 2024 18:30:43 GMT 1
Not bad considering he was also the referee. Even more impressive when you consider he played most of the match in Matos' pocket Well at least he fits nicely |
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 4, 2024 19:13:15 GMT 1
They'll never learn that lot. Bless em Is that the kid that booked the top floor of the holiday in for this trip to wembley. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Feb 4, 2024 19:20:44 GMT 1
Is that the kid that booked the top floor of the holiday in for this trip to wembley. Brilliant work. |
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Post by nicovaesen on Feb 4, 2024 19:24:00 GMT 1
Just seen on twatter the first cowshed loyal goal cam video I’ve seen for ages. It was the first against the wendies. I’m not on social media it just comes up on a google search. Whoever does these videos can they be uploaded onto here as they give me goosebumps everytime. Love them.
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Post by alexdire on Feb 4, 2024 21:46:58 GMT 1
I'm worried for this bloke.🤣
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