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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 13, 2024 21:22:03 GMT 1
Wow. Are you Darren Moore’s agent or something ? Knackered ? They are professional footballers. They get paid “elite” wages it’s their bloody job to be fit. What's that got to do with Darren Moore? And yes. Knackered. Because they were, you could see they were. There's a difference between playing normally and being asked to hunt down and sprint for every single ball. You only had to see how much they were overlapping and moving out of position to get to everything. Southampton didn't expend the same energy and they kept coming later on. Worthy said in the press conference for tomorrows game that Spencer was subbed off because he'd done what he asked them all to do and give everything they had...he had nothing else to give. Problem being there was half an hour to play. Spencer wasnt alone in burning himself out. Think the way the game went shows pretty clearly how they were collectively just knackered for that last 15 -20 minutes. |
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Post by Stiggy on Feb 13, 2024 21:39:29 GMT 1
“New Manager” thread but the last 3 pages have been shouting Moore🤦♂️ Try reading the previous 126 pages of mostly pointless waffle. Makes for an excellent insomnia cure. |
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Post by midlander on Feb 13, 2024 22:00:22 GMT 1
Yeah, but he was a nice fella. I've asked this before and no-one has ever explained it. Why was he considered such a nice fella? Seriously? Just came across as dull and full of cliches and never seemed to appreciate supporters. If he was THAT nice he would never have subjected us to Hull City away. Can only speak from what I know. One of my best mates, ironically a Vale fan, knows Darren Moore and Bruce Dyer pretty well as they do a load of work for the charity my mate works for, focusing on running a school for vulnerable kids in Kenya for one. He says Moore is a cracking broke. From personal experience, I celebrated a milestone birthday in Jan. Unbeknown to me, my mate sent Moore a message on the Sat morning before the Man City game, asking him if he could do a quick Happy Birthday message for me sometime in the next couple of weeks. Within the hour, he had sent him back a really genuine 60 second birthday message for me. Smashing bloke, just not a very good manager for us. Genuinely hope it works out for him at Vale. |
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Post by King Curtis on Feb 13, 2024 22:10:31 GMT 1
What's that got to do with Darren Moore? And yes. Knackered. Because they were, you could see they were. There's a difference between playing normally and being asked to hunt down and sprint for every single ball. You only had to see how much they were overlapping and moving out of position to get to everything. Southampton didn't expend the same energy and they kept coming later on. Worthy said in the press conference for tomorrows game that Spencer was subbed off because he'd done what he asked them all to do and give everything they had...he had nothing else to give. Problem being there was half an hour to play. Spencer wasnt alone in burning himself out. Think the way the game went shows pretty clearly how they were collectively just knackered for that last 15 -20 minutes. How can that be on Moore then? They've been working with Worthington for almost 2 weeks... |
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Post by Wingman on Feb 13, 2024 22:16:53 GMT 1
Exit forms for talking 💩 consistently, pretending to be in the know. Also known as a WUM. incorrect though... some items have not turned out to be correct but are as told to me, the biggest one was Darren would take the sheff weds game, this came directly from someone at the club who at that time didnt know and was only told 3 hours later he didnt have a job any longer. Anyhow he now has a new job so I better go log in to Port vale message board....... (this by the way is a joke before you start commenting!) If this is a warning from Admins Wingman are you an admin ? then maybe I will try to be more careful in the information I share and when I share it in the future, as I would like to continue on this board and I have others who have asked me to continue. If so consider this an appollygy to all for anything said and not liked I will try to do better with my posts and my spellings in the fuuture.  I am indeed an Admin and probably the least tolerant of WUM's hence the gun emoji I routinely pull out. So, in my most friendly typing tone of voice, you have been warned already. Further posts that any Admin deems to be WUMMING will see you banned. Let's see a change of posting style to offer something to the debates, and you'll live longer on here.  |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Feb 13, 2024 22:34:00 GMT 1
 ? Darren Moore, who was responsible for us playing some of the most dire stuff I’ve ever seen any Town side play, has got himself another job just 2 weeks after being fired! And a 5.5 year contract to boot!! Genuinely stunned, the Vale board needed only to take a look on datm and x to see what we thought of his style of football. Feel for the Vale fans as to what’s in store, zero entertainment on the pitch and incoherent nonsense off it. Vale fans seem to be enthusiastic from a brief look on their forum. They don't seem to even bothered if they get relegated to L2 on the basis that Moore will bring them straight back up. www.onevalefan.co.uk/forum/topic/61430-new-manager-is/page/137/#commentsQuite a few of us were enthusiastic or at least positive when Moore was appointed. His record up to then suggested he'd at least be effective if not particularly exciting. Though in many cases, myself included, it was more in hope than expectation. We do seem to be disastrous for managerial careers more often than not. Since I started watching under Eoin Hand, only Warnock, Bruce, and Corberan have done much after leaving us. Granted Macari, Wadsworth and Turnip were getting on a bit by then so it's less a case of Town being the final straw... but Horton had been a top flight manager with Citeh prior to coming here, afterwards he failed at Hull then disappeared. Jacko was only successful with Town, Lee Clark managed briefly at a higher level than he'd been with us after leaving, but he failed miserably. Larry did get Preston promoted out of Lg1 but then tried for a fourth promotion with Sadford and failed. Even Wagner hasn't exactly set the world alight an any of his subsequent jobs including Norwich. Time will tell whether Moore will be a Warnock or a Clark. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 13, 2024 22:34:05 GMT 1
“New Manager” thread but the last 3 pages have been shouting Moore🤦♂️ he is a new manager to be fair, just somewhere else! |
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Post by ldotm on Feb 13, 2024 22:39:52 GMT 1
I've asked this before and no-one has ever explained it. Why was he considered such a nice fella? Seriously? Just came across as dull and full of cliches and never seemed to appreciate supporters. If he was THAT nice he would never have subjected us to Hull City away. Can only speak from what I know. One of my best mates, ironically a Vale fan, knows Darren Moore and Bruce Dyer pretty well as they do a load of work for the charity my mate works for, focusing on running a school for vulnerable kids in Kenya for one. He says Moore is a cracking broke. From personal experience, I celebrated a milestone birthday in Jan. Unbeknown to me, my mate sent Moore a message on the Sat morning before the Man City game, asking him if he could do a quick Happy Birthday message for me sometime in the next couple of weeks. Within the hour, he had sent him back a really genuine 60 second birthday message for me. Smashing bloke, just not a very good manager for us. Genuinely hope it works out for him at Vale. I also know a lad who’s played under him and an agent who’s worked with him a few times, who both say he’s a very nice bloke. He was shocking with us but same as you, hope he does well at PV. |
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Post by 2ellandback on Feb 13, 2024 22:48:47 GMT 1
On their board they seem to think its sour grapes from Town fans. Hope he's successful but I worry for them I think that comment came from PortugalTerrier; not seen on here since Moore left, so perhaps he’s now a Port Vale fan and continuing to swear blind allegiance to Moore; anything other than praise for Moore is heresy! Oh he’s been lurking behind the scenes. Looks like he reported another poster who has received a ban. |
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Post by shawsie on Feb 13, 2024 22:49:43 GMT 1
What's that got to do with Darren Moore? And yes. Knackered. Because they were, you could see they were. There's a difference between playing normally and being asked to hunt down and sprint for every single ball. You only had to see how much they were overlapping and moving out of position to get to everything. Southampton didn't expend the same energy and they kept coming later on. Worthy said in the press conference for tomorrows game that Spencer was subbed off because he'd done what he asked them all to do and give everything they had...he had nothing else to give. Problem being there was half an hour to play. Spencer wasnt alone in burning himself out. Think the way the game went shows pretty clearly how they were collectively just knackered for that last 15 -20 minutes. This is a warnock legacy im afraid. We dont have a team that can press and then keep possession. Under NW we conceded space and possession.....but hungbo, koroma, rudoni etc attacked with directness and pace to hurt teams. Moore came in and tried to change it - but these players cant really do it. Theres no mooy to dictate or obriens energy to disrupt in the same way and the likes of lees, hogg, pearson are all that bit older and have suffered injuries. It was brave to go at saints as we did on saturday......not sure it will work that often even against poorer sides tho unless we are at full strength as we are likely to ship goals. Will be interesting to see how worthy approaches 2 huge games this week at home. |
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Post by steo1986 on Feb 13, 2024 23:11:05 GMT 1
What's that got to do with Darren Moore? And yes. Knackered. Because they were, you could see they were. There's a difference between playing normally and being asked to hunt down and sprint for every single ball. You only had to see how much they were overlapping and moving out of position to get to everything. Southampton didn't expend the same energy and they kept coming later on. Worthy said in the press conference for tomorrows game that Spencer was subbed off because he'd done what he asked them all to do and give everything they had...he had nothing else to give. Problem being there was half an hour to play. Spencer wasnt alone in burning himself out. Think the way the game went shows pretty clearly how they were collectively just knackered for that last 15 -20 minutes. Dunc will do his nut you saying all this  |
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Post by rockwall on Feb 13, 2024 23:17:31 GMT 1
What's that got to do with Darren Moore? And yes. Knackered. Because they were, you could see they were. There's a difference between playing normally and being asked to hunt down and sprint for every single ball. You only had to see how much they were overlapping and moving out of position to get to everything. Southampton didn't expend the same energy and they kept coming later on. Worthy said in the press conference for tomorrows game that Spencer was subbed off because he'd done what he asked them all to do and give everything they had...he had nothing else to give. Problem being there was half an hour to play. Spencer wasnt alone in burning himself out. Think the way the game went shows pretty clearly how they were collectively just knackered for that last 15 -20 minutes. Spencer was also on a yellow card. Protection too possibly? Of Headley had been on the bench it would have worked. |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Feb 13, 2024 23:24:50 GMT 1
Worthy said in the press conference for tomorrows game that Spencer was subbed off because he'd done what he asked them all to do and give everything they had...he had nothing else to give. Problem being there was half an hour to play. Spencer wasnt alone in burning himself out. Think the way the game went shows pretty clearly how they were collectively just knackered for that last 15 -20 minutes. This is a warnock legacy im afraid. We dont have a team that can press and then keep possession. Under NW we conceded space and possession.....but hungbo, koroma, rudoni etc attacked with directness and pace to hurt teams. Moore came in and tried to change it - but these players cant really do it. Theres no mooy to dictate or obriens energy to disrupt in the same way and the likes of lees, hogg, pearson are all that bit older and have suffered injuries. It was brave to go at saints as we did on saturday......not sure it will work that often even against poorer sides tho unless we are at full strength as we are likely to ship goals. Will be interesting to see how worthy approaches 2 huge games this week at home. I did hear a theory that they all needed more fitness but Moore couldn't push their fitness mid season and that he needed a preseason |
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Post by Flowerdisco on Feb 13, 2024 23:39:06 GMT 1
I don’t mean to be pedantic but this is the new manager thread. There is another thread titled….”Darren Moore.” Just saying like😳 Who's the new manager? |
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Post by Flowerdisco on Feb 13, 2024 23:41:43 GMT 1
On their board they seem to think its sour grapes from Town fans. Hope he's successful but I worry for them Sour grapes? He had a win percentage of 12% or something. There was not one case that anyone could make for Darren Moore, he’s right up there with the worst managers we’ve ever had. He seems like a nice fella so I genuinely hope he does well at Port Vale, but there’s no getting away from the fact that he was absolutely dog shit for us. Absolutely |
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Post by JonsonClarkParis on Feb 14, 2024 0:33:39 GMT 1
Where has the willfried Nancy reports come from?
I’ve done some digging and it’s fair to say he ticks a lot of boxes what we are looking for
Attacking football
Very fluid
Plenty of numbers getting forwards
Prefers to play a 343 system
I prefer this appointment to all the current front runners if I’m honest, yes it’s a risk but he has a clear Philosophy and has done well with both Montreal and colunbus
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 14, 2024 0:33:52 GMT 1
Worthy said in the press conference for tomorrows game that Spencer was subbed off because he'd done what he asked them all to do and give everything they had...he had nothing else to give. Problem being there was half an hour to play. Spencer wasnt alone in burning himself out. Think the way the game went shows pretty clearly how they were collectively just knackered for that last 15 -20 minutes. How can that be on Moore then? They've been working with Worthington for almost 2 weeks... Ive no idea how thats on Moore. |
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Post by DuffMan on Feb 14, 2024 0:50:41 GMT 1
Where has the willfried Nancy reports come from? I’ve done some digging and it’s fair to say he ticks a lot of boxes what we are looking for Attacking football Very fluid Plenty of numbers getting forwards Prefers to play a 343 system I prefer this appointment to all the current front runners if I’m honest, yes it’s a risk but he has a clear Philosophy and has done well with both Montreal and colunbus It was a wild guess on my part based on just a guy had suggested something by saying wilfully 😂 would be an interesting appointment, certainly a gamble I could get behind |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 14, 2024 1:34:23 GMT 1
And the winner is…
All the bookies taking daft bets…
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Post by twyford on Feb 14, 2024 8:13:28 GMT 1
The fact that JW has shown a plan in just two games tells us all we need to know. Awful manager - Moore - stealing a living. JW didn't seem to have much plan the other day when he needed one. He's basically done what all good caretaker managers do... Come in and said 'come on lads, let's just go for it and have a go' which is basically what teams do in cup games against the big boys. They aren't sticking to any expected disciplines or tactics so the other team find it hard to get organised and predict what they will do. Usually ends up with a goal or two and just depends if the team throws as much into defence as attack. I don't doubt that JW has done a good job getting the lads going but over a season you can't just throw the kitchen sink at them every game, I'll be surprised if the lads aren't still knackered from Saturday when we play tomorrow. It certainly looked as though the match had taken it out of Southampton - their performance against Bristol City was very lethargic / lacklustre last night compared to the weekend, and they won on Saturday. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 14, 2024 8:35:37 GMT 1
This is a warnock legacy im afraid. We dont have a team that can press and then keep possession. Under NW we conceded space and possession.....but hungbo, koroma, rudoni etc attacked with directness and pace to hurt teams. Moore came in and tried to change it - but these players cant really do it. Theres no mooy to dictate or obriens energy to disrupt in the same way and the likes of lees, hogg, pearson are all that bit older and have suffered injuries. It was brave to go at saints as we did on saturday......not sure it will work that often even against poorer sides tho unless we are at full strength as we are likely to ship goals. Will be interesting to see how worthy approaches 2 huge games this week at home. I did hear a theory that they all needed more fitness but Moore couldn't push their fitness mid season and that he needed a preseason Players never seem to be fit enough when a manager takes over. |
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Post by sonny on Feb 14, 2024 8:54:13 GMT 1
JW has been a breath of fresh air - but then who wouldn't have been after the unremitting awfulness of Moore? He deserves credit for the win against Wednesday, but the first half performance was uninspiringly directionless and the margins in that game were much finer than the final scoreline suggests. Southampton was a free hit. He smashed the cue ball into the reds and the first half was exhilarating. Had we taken one of the chances at 3-2 we could have pulled off a remarkable win. The deep-seated problems with this group of players were still there, though. Conceding straight after the interval, the lack of pace at the back, the inability of central midfielders to track runners (he's behind you, Hoggy), the weakness of the bench. Tonight's and Saturday's games are arguably going to be JW's biggest challenge. 4 points from them and he makes a powerful case.
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Post by drewden on Feb 14, 2024 9:12:34 GMT 1
Today could be the day for the announcement we have all been waiting for.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Feb 14, 2024 9:21:46 GMT 1
JW didn't seem to have much plan the other day when he needed one. He's basically done what all good caretaker managers do... Come in and said 'come on lads, let's just go for it and have a go' which is basically what teams do in cup games against the big boys. They aren't sticking to any expected disciplines or tactics so the other team find it hard to get organised and predict what they will do. Usually ends up with a goal or two and just depends if the team throws as much into defence as attack. I don't doubt that JW has done a good job getting the lads going but over a season you can't just throw the kitchen sink at them every game, I'll be surprised if the lads aren't still knackered from Saturday when we play tomorrow. It certainly looked as though the match had taken it out of Southampton - their performance against Bristol City was very lethargic / lacklustre last night compared to the weekend, and they won on Saturday. Which is why when you are managing long term you can't just throw everything at them every game. Game management. Caretakers do it and it works fine for a few games. Managers may do it for a cup game but it usually blows back on their next game. |
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Feb 14, 2024 9:24:05 GMT 1
Today could be the day for the announcement we have all been waiting for. Today could be the day Dua Lipa comes knocking. |
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Post by dezzly on Feb 14, 2024 9:34:01 GMT 1
Today could be the day for the announcement we have all been waiting for. Is that a guess,taking the mickey or actually heard something? |
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Post by dalesterrier on Feb 14, 2024 9:40:29 GMT 1
Personally I think it would be wrong to announce a managerial appointment on the day of a game
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Post by runner76 on Feb 14, 2024 9:46:50 GMT 1
Today could be the day for the announcement we have all been waiting for. This thread might finally be ending?…. |
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Post by leroy212 on Feb 14, 2024 9:53:25 GMT 1
Today could be the day for the announcement we have all been waiting for. or not |
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Post by King Neil on Feb 14, 2024 10:00:34 GMT 1
Personally I think it would be wrong to announce a managerial appointment on the day of a game Would serve no purpose announcing a new manager just before a game...it would only unsettle the players |
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? Darren Moore, who was responsible for us playing some of the most dire stuff I’ve ever seen any Town side play, has got himself another job just 2 weeks after being fired! And a 5.5 year contract to boot!! Genuinely stunned, the Vale board needed only to take a look on datm and x to see what we thought of his style of football. Feel for the Vale fans as to what’s in store, zero entertainment on the pitch and incoherent nonsense off it. 
