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Post by sapphireblue on Feb 17, 2024 21:29:38 GMT 1
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Post by King Curtis on Feb 17, 2024 21:29:44 GMT 1
Poor first half I thought. Odd choice to put Wiles up front. He had a couple of cameos where he turned their defenders but otherwise he looked slow in thought and action, which is a worry, given he was supposed to be the person who would really improve our midfield. Their shithousing, plus an inexperienced ref, meant the fans and the players got worked up, and that doesn't improve the football. Second half much better. Good subs and we really took it to them. Another day one of the times they scrambled it clear we would have scored, but it wasn't that sort of day. We deserved the equaliser but not defending the free kick right at the end was dreadful. All that hard work chucked away. They had more skill in their side than we did I thought. Even with us closing down they were confident of passing the ball out from the back. We have some 'solid' players who need upgrading I think, if we are to progress. Shame for Worthy's last game, but that is just how it goes. It will certainly have given the new guy food for thought. Hopefully we stay up and look to upgrade some areas in the summer. You lost me at Wiles up front. |
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Post by Moooooy on Feb 17, 2024 21:34:58 GMT 1
Thought we deserved at least a point today. First half we looked leggy but 2nd half we were excellent. A real sucker punch to lose in the last minute but I enjoyed the game again. Keep going like that Town and weâll be fine.
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Post by Terriersmad on Feb 17, 2024 21:38:12 GMT 1
Furious at them in truth, I've ended up walking home (about 5 miles) to work out my annoyance. Defend one sodding set piece for a matter of sodding seconds, and we don't do it. Ignore the softness of the free-kick. We just needed to stand up for five sodding seconds and clear our lines against a side that we should have fucking beaten, never mind got a draw. Just the same as the first, don't deal with a simple ball into the box. And we concede two goals against a side that, hitting the post aside, offered sod all threat after the 7th minute. They came to shithouse a win, and they did. Utterly undeserved, but there we have it. Shot ourselves in the foot against bang average opposition.
I hate teams like Hull. All that talent and they can be distilled into a phrase better associated with submarine captains in the Battle of the Atlantic. Had they tried to play some football rather than suck the life out of the game, I'd probably be far less pissed off at losing to them, because hey. That's football. Win some and lose some. But I don't go to football to watch a spineless, bottleless set of officials allow a team of any colours to just kill it. I get why they do it. I don't actually blame them. They've not been in great form on the road - or at all - and want to win at all costs. I wouldn't send a team out like Rosenior did. I'd prefer it if Town didn't do it either. But three points justifies it, doesn't it? Fact is if the boot is on the other foot I probably have a moment of reflection after the game that I don't want to see that sort of thing, but at the time I enjoy three points. Because I'm a football fan and for God's sake I'm allowed to be a hypocrite when it comes to a Saturday afternoon. Although I'll also say this - a win bought through cheating is tainted, and I wouldn't want us to stoop to cheating to win. I don't mind a Town player being booked for diving - we should be better than that.
No, my issue when it comes to sides who do what they spent the whole afternoon doing lies with the officials, who have to have a backbone to deal with it, and they just didn't. The goalkeeper's timewasting was an absolute joke - he should have been booked in the first half, as should the captain for his part in that ridiculous routine. Meanwhile we have a player booked for timewasting on our corner because the officials weren't doing their job and checking the distance of the opponent. He was just inside that 10 yard mark - not much, but it just summed up what Hull got away with all afternoon. Not to mention the diving and the faking injury. There were two injuries in that game, but play was stopped for the greater part of 10 minutes across the two halves for 8 separate stoppages, 7 of those Hull's. The officials just have to be wiser. They have to be. And every time Hull threw themselves to the floor, it was a free-kick. Sunderland were the same. Officials just don't know what a foul looks like any more. Not least because the number of times I saw shirt pulls - from both sides, and one from Hogg on the edge of the box springs to mind as one we got away with - go unpunished when it's a foul and a mandatory yellow card must have been into double figures. And don't get me started on the dissent. Neither player booked for dissent should have been, and that comes from someone who wants more players booked for dissent. They were frustrated moments from both players, nothing else. A quiet word at the next break in play would have been quite enough, but no. And Spencer's booking was soft too.
I don't understand why we didn't bring Radulovic on. I'm also frustrated at Healey's injury. Today was a day for a livewire in the box, who the ball might just drop to, who might create space with a touch and lash it home. Because that was our big issue. The number of quality balls in that Hull didn't deal with, the number of times it was pinging around waiting for a finishing touch, we could have won that game three times over. We also lacked composure when recycling possession. For the first time in a long time we had sustained periods of pressure, and we needed to be less frenetic. Someone who could put their foot on the ball and keep things ticking over rather than looking to create chaos every time would have been invaluable.
All that being said, for all the frustration and angry, wet walks home, I can't fault the effort and pride they showed. Mistakes were made, which is why we lost the game. Ultimately Hull punished us and we didn't punish them. But mistakes happen and after the efforts to get the team moving again in the last four games I'm disappointed for them rather than in them, deep down.
Just right now I could run 10 miles out of sheer annoyance. Or kick next door's cat, which spends more time shitting in my front garden than anything else. If the opportunity arises...
And finally: That foul throw. THAT FOUL THROW. Minescule in the grand scheme. Didn't affect the outcome in the slightest. BUT HOW CAN ANYONE NOT GIVE THAT FOUL THROW!? He threw it at the back of his own head and it bounced off it. Don't give me some 'flow of the game' bollocks, because it's not discretionary. Foul throw. Throw awarded to the other team. To make a mess of something so utterly straightforward is mind-boggling.
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Post by royrace on Feb 17, 2024 21:40:23 GMT 1
Sexism my arse you thought police nutters its 2024 not some dystopian 1984 political correct bollocks Her â performanceâ did nothing to enhance the need or necessity for female referees in the menâs professional game So you are judging all female refs on her performance today? How's that not sexist? The general view is she was shit - fine - but don't generalise that all female officials are shit on the basis of her performance today. If I was to do the same, I would assume all men were sexist idiots based on your performance on here today. Bad advert for female officials today unfortunately. My guess is promoted too quickly due to her sex which is ridiculous but entirely possible in 2024. As if often the case it achieves the opposite of what they are trying to achieve. Poor performance, unnecessary yellows in the first half, forgot to bring them out in the second and had no idea how to control the Hull play acting, time wasting and feigning injury. Pro players will very quickly take advantage and they did just that. Shame because I thought she was perfect in the first twenty mins or so. |
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Post by drewden on Feb 17, 2024 21:40:39 GMT 1
It was an absolute piss take today was the Hull shithousing, worse than anything Nicholls has ever done. The ref should have had a word with the Hull captain about it. A strong ref wouldâve had a word with their captain after half an hour, told him people are going to start getting booked if they donât get on with it. A couple of bookings and theyâd have packed it in right away. The managers get away Scott free, it is them that instruct the players to cheat. |
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 17, 2024 21:42:31 GMT 1
No mate, you were speculating. If . . . So you know their bloke was exactly 9.15m away then, or were you speculating đ |
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 17, 2024 21:49:06 GMT 1
Spot on .Sorba being an idiot as he was in giving away fouls in areas which you just donât need to foul. But we lost today because JW picked the wrong team and showed his lack of experience. Using Rudoni wide right on Wednesday was part of a logical plan to help Pearson nullify Jack Clarke. He blow it today by not picking Kasuma and Burgzhog from the start and not dropping Wiles despite an ok game midweek. He should have dropped Pearson and picked Spencer right back and Yuka on left.giving more natural balance. Diarra will never make it and was a very lightweight sub. After the match in White Rose both Tom Cowan and Rambo thiought ref was good given the shithousery from Hull. How the fuck does that work ? She allowed, and fell for, their shithousery |
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Post by Terriersmad on Feb 17, 2024 21:52:33 GMT 1
So you are judging all female refs on her performance today? How's that not sexist? The general view is she was shit - fine - but don't generalise that all female officials are shit on the basis of her performance today. If I was to do the same, I would assume all men were sexist idiots based on your performance on here today. Bad advert for female officials today unfortunately. My guess is promoted too quickly due to her sex which is ridiculous but entirely possible in 2024. As if often the case it achieves the opposite of what they are trying to achieve. Poor performance, unnecessary yellows in the first half, forgot to bring them out in the second and had no idea how to control the Hull play acting, time wasting and feigning injury. Pro players will very quickly take advantage and they did just that. Shame because I thought she was perfect in the first twenty mins or so. It was the first time we saw a female referee, so it was a novelty. She was under greater scrutiny because of it. A male official would not get the same. She was crap. We can all agree that she was crap. We can speculate as to why, but it boils down to: she was crap. But we see male officials do exactly what she did today time after time and we don't ask the questions we have of her because we put it down to them being crap. I'll also say this: I remember Amy Rayner running the line in the 90s and early 2000s. She was crap. Always behind the play. But Sian Massey-Ellis was the best assistant going for several years. The quality of an official matters, not their sex. I have no problem with a female official provided they're competent. |
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Post by Ibiza Town on Feb 17, 2024 21:53:51 GMT 1
I think the yellow card for Thomas summed up an interesting performance from the Ref. They did her up like a kipper⌠I genuinely want to know what he was booked for. No bad language and no dissent shown. Therefore it had to be for not taking the corner quickly enough, otherwise known as time wasting. She booked us for time wasting and none of theirs. How the fuck did that happen. And why we would be time wasting at 0-1 down is anyones guess |
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 17, 2024 21:55:20 GMT 1
Furious at them in truth, I've ended up walking home (about 5 miles) to work out my annoyance. Defend one sodding set piece for a matter of sodding seconds, and we don't do it. Ignore the softness of the free-kick. We just needed to stand up for five sodding seconds and clear our lines against a side that we should have fucking beaten, never mind got a draw. Just the same as the first, don't deal with a simple ball into the box. And we concede two goals against a side that, hitting the post aside, offered sod all threat after the 7th minute. They came to shithouse a win, and they did. Utterly undeserved, but there we have it. Shot ourselves in the foot against bang average opposition. I hate teams like Hull. All that talent and they can be distilled into a phrase better associated with submarine captains in the Battle of the Atlantic. Had they tried to play some football rather than suck the life out of the game, I'd probably be far less pissed off at losing to them, because hey. That's football. Win some and lose some. But I don't go to football to watch a spineless, bottleless set of officials allow a team of any colours to just kill it. I get why they do it. I don't actually blame them. They've not been in great form on the road - or at all - and want to win at all costs. I wouldn't send a team out like Rosenior did. I'd prefer it if Town didn't do it either. But three points justifies it, doesn't it? Fact is if the boot is on the other foot I probably have a moment of reflection after the game that I don't want to see that sort of thing, but at the time I enjoy three points. Because I'm a football fan and for God's sake I'm allowed to be a hypocrite when it comes to a Saturday afternoon. Although I'll also say this - a win bought through cheating is tainted, and I wouldn't want us to stoop to cheating to win. I don't mind a Town player being booked for diving - we should be better than that. No, my issue when it comes to sides who do what they spent the whole afternoon doing lies with the officials, who have to have a backbone to deal with it, and they just didn't. The goalkeeper's timewasting was an absolute joke - he should have been booked in the first half, as should the captain for his part in that ridiculous routine. Meanwhile we have a player booked for timewasting on our corner because the officials weren't doing their job and checking the distance of the opponent. He was just inside that 10 yard mark - not much, but it just summed up what Hull got away with all afternoon. Not to mention the diving and the faking injury. There were two injuries in that game, but play was stopped for the greater part of 10 minutes across the two halves for 8 separate stoppages, 7 of those Hull's. The officials just have to be wiser. They have to be. And every time Hull threw themselves to the floor, it was a free-kick. Sunderland were the same. Officials just don't know what a foul looks like any more. Not least because the number of times I saw shirt pulls - from both sides, and one from Hogg on the edge of the box springs to mind as one we got away with - go unpunished when it's a foul and a mandatory yellow card must have been into double figures. And don't get me started on the dissent. Neither player booked for dissent should have been, and that comes from someone who wants more players booked for dissent. They were frustrated moments from both players, nothing else. A quiet word at the next break in play would have been quite enough, but no. And Spencer's booking was soft too. I don't understand why we didn't bring Radulovic on. I'm also frustrated at Healey's injury. Today was a day for a livewire in the box, who the ball might just drop to, who might create space with a touch and lash it home. Because that was our big issue. The number of quality balls in that Hull didn't deal with, the number of times it was pinging around waiting for a finishing touch, we could have won that game three times over. We also lacked composure when recycling possession. For the first time in a long time we had sustained periods of pressure, and we needed to be less frenetic. Someone who could put their foot on the ball and keep things ticking over rather than looking to create chaos every time would have been invaluable. All that being said, for all the frustration and angry, wet walks home, I can't fault the effort and pride they showed. Mistakes were made, which is why we lost the game. Ultimately Hull punished us and we didn't punish them. But mistakes happen and after the efforts to get the team moving again in the last four games I'm disappointed for them rather than in them, deep down. Just right now I could run 10 miles out of sheer annoyance. Or kick next door's cat, which spends more time shitting in my front garden than anything else. If the opportunity arises... And finally: That foul throw. THAT FOUL THROW. Minescule in the grand scheme. Didn't affect the outcome in the slightest. BUT HOW CAN ANYONE NOT GIVE THAT FOUL THROW!? He threw it at the back of his own head and it bounced off it. Don't give me some 'flow of the game' bollocks, because it's not discretionary. Foul throw. Throw awarded to the other team. To make a mess of something so utterly straightforward is mind-boggling. I walked 5 mile home too, I still hadn't calmed down when I got back. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Feb 17, 2024 21:56:17 GMT 1
Furious at them in truth, I've ended up walking home (about 5 miles) to work out my annoyance. Defend one sodding set piece for a matter of sodding seconds, and we don't do it. Ignore the softness of the free-kick. We just needed to stand up for five sodding seconds and clear our lines against a side that we should have fucking beaten, never mind got a draw. Just the same as the first, don't deal with a simple ball into the box. And we concede two goals against a side that, hitting the post aside, offered sod all threat after the 7th minute. They came to shithouse a win, and they did. Utterly undeserved, but there we have it. Shot ourselves in the foot against bang average opposition. I hate teams like Hull. All that talent and they can be distilled into a phrase better associated with submarine captains in the Battle of the Atlantic. Had they tried to play some football rather than suck the life out of the game, I'd probably be far less pissed off at losing to them, because hey. That's football. Win some and lose some. But I don't go to football to watch a spineless, bottleless set of officials allow a team of any colours to just kill it. I get why they do it. I don't actually blame them. They've not been in great form on the road - or at all - and want to win at all costs. I wouldn't send a team out like Rosenior did. I'd prefer it if Town didn't do it either. But three points justifies it, doesn't it? Fact is if the boot is on the other foot I probably have a moment of reflection after the game that I don't want to see that sort of thing, but at the time I enjoy three points. Because I'm a football fan and for God's sake I'm allowed to be a hypocrite when it comes to a Saturday afternoon. Although I'll also say this - a win bought through cheating is tainted, and I wouldn't want us to stoop to cheating to win. I don't mind a Town player being booked for diving - we should be better than that. No, my issue when it comes to sides who do what they spent the whole afternoon doing lies with the officials, who have to have a backbone to deal with it, and they just didn't. The goalkeeper's timewasting was an absolute joke - he should have been booked in the first half, as should the captain for his part in that ridiculous routine. Meanwhile we have a player booked for timewasting on our corner because the officials weren't doing their job and checking the distance of the opponent. He was just inside that 10 yard mark - not much, but it just summed up what Hull got away with all afternoon. Not to mention the diving and the faking injury. There were two injuries in that game, but play was stopped for the greater part of 10 minutes across the two halves for 8 separate stoppages, 7 of those Hull's. The officials just have to be wiser. They have to be. And every time Hull threw themselves to the floor, it was a free-kick. Sunderland were the same. Officials just don't know what a foul looks like any more. Not least because the number of times I saw shirt pulls - from both sides, and one from Hogg on the edge of the box springs to mind as one we got away with - go unpunished when it's a foul and a mandatory yellow card must have been into double figures. And don't get me started on the dissent. Neither player booked for dissent should have been, and that comes from someone who wants more players booked for dissent. They were frustrated moments from both players, nothing else. A quiet word at the next break in play would have been quite enough, but no. And Spencer's booking was soft too. I don't understand why we didn't bring Radulovic on. I'm also frustrated at Healey's injury. Today was a day for a livewire in the box, who the ball might just drop to, who might create space with a touch and lash it home. Because that was our big issue. The number of quality balls in that Hull didn't deal with, the number of times it was pinging around waiting for a finishing touch, we could have won that game three times over. We also lacked composure when recycling possession. For the first time in a long time we had sustained periods of pressure, and we needed to be less frenetic. Someone who could put their foot on the ball and keep things ticking over rather than looking to create chaos every time would have been invaluable. All that being said, for all the frustration and angry, wet walks home, I can't fault the effort and pride they showed. Mistakes were made, which is why we lost the game. Ultimately Hull punished us and we didn't punish them. But mistakes happen and after the efforts to get the team moving again in the last four games I'm disappointed for them rather than in them, deep down. Just right now I could run 10 miles out of sheer annoyance. Or kick next door's cat, which spends more time shitting in my front garden than anything else. If the opportunity arises... And finally: That foul throw. THAT FOUL THROW. Minescule in the grand scheme. Didn't affect the outcome in the slightest. BUT HOW CAN ANYONE NOT GIVE THAT FOUL THROW!? He threw it at the back of his own head and it bounced off it. Don't give me some 'flow of the game' bollocks, because it's not discretionary. Foul throw. Throw awarded to the other team. To make a mess of something so utterly straightforward is mind-boggling. I walked 5 mile home too, I still hadn't calmed down when I got back. It was bloody wet down Leeds Road, I'll say that. |
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Post by DuffMan on Feb 17, 2024 21:59:00 GMT 1
Bad advert for female officials today unfortunately. My guess is promoted too quickly due to her sex which is ridiculous but entirely possible in 2024. As if often the case it achieves the opposite of what they are trying to achieve. Poor performance, unnecessary yellows in the first half, forgot to bring them out in the second and had no idea how to control the Hull play acting, time wasting and feigning injury. Pro players will very quickly take advantage and they did just that. Shame because I thought she was perfect in the first twenty mins or so. It was the first time we saw a female referee, so it was a novelty. She was under greater scrutiny because of it. A male official would not get the same. She was crap. We can all agree that she was crap. We can speculate as to why, but it boils down to: she was crap. But we see male officials do exactly what she did today time after time and we don't ask the questions we have of her because we put it down to them being crap. I'll also say this: I remember Amy Rayner running the line in the 90s and early 2000s. She was crap. Always behind the play. But Sian Massey-Ellis was the best assistant going for several years. The quality of an official matters, not their sex. I have no problem with a female official provided they're competent. She wasnât crap, she was just massively inexperienced and it ruined the first half. she shouldnât be gaining that experience in the 2nd tier of English football. Todayâs issues were because theyâve fast tracked her, let her make her way up naturally instead of playing up to the woke idiots |
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Post by andyboothscat on Feb 17, 2024 22:04:04 GMT 1
I genuinely want to know what he was booked for. No bad language and no dissent shown. Therefore it had to be for not taking the corner quickly enough, otherwise known as time wasting. She booked us for time wasting and none of theirs. How the fuck did that happen. And why we would be time wasting at 0-1 down is anyones guess Canât find the post so apologies for replying to this but how does the previous poster know that there was no bad language? |
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Post by Terriersmad on Feb 17, 2024 22:10:52 GMT 1
It was the first time we saw a female referee, so it was a novelty. She was under greater scrutiny because of it. A male official would not get the same. She was crap. We can all agree that she was crap. We can speculate as to why, but it boils down to: she was crap. But we see male officials do exactly what she did today time after time and we don't ask the questions we have of her because we put it down to them being crap. I'll also say this: I remember Amy Rayner running the line in the 90s and early 2000s. She was crap. Always behind the play. But Sian Massey-Ellis was the best assistant going for several years. The quality of an official matters, not their sex. I have no problem with a female official provided they're competent. She wasnât crap, she was just massively inexperienced and it ruined the first half. she shouldnât be gaining that experience in the 2nd tier of English football. Todayâs issues were because theyâve fast tracked her, let her make her way up naturally instead of playing up to the woke idiots No, she was crap. Rebecca Welch has been refereeing men's games for over 5 years, since being appointed to the National League list in 2018. She's refereed in the National League, League Two, League One, Championship and Premier League before today. She's also refereed in the women's World Cup, two women's FA Cup finals, and is a mainstay in the WSL. She's got the experience. She's not been fast-tracked like a certain Australian, who pitched up, reffed abysmally in the Championship then got a Premier League gig after a year. She has made her way up naturally. Just today she made a pig's ear of a game that wasn't particularly difficult to referee. Nothing to do with her sex or being fast-tracked or not having the experience. Entirely down to do with poor decisions on the day. Gavin Ward was bloody useless on Wednesday in a game that also wasn't all that difficult to referee. No doubt whichever jobsworth we get next weekend will be useless too. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Feb 17, 2024 22:12:08 GMT 1
It was the first time we saw a female referee, so it was a novelty. She was under greater scrutiny because of it. A male official would not get the same. She was crap. We can all agree that she was crap. We can speculate as to why, but it boils down to: she was crap. But we see male officials do exactly what she did today time after time and we don't ask the questions we have of her because we put it down to them being crap. I'll also say this: I remember Amy Rayner running the line in the 90s and early 2000s. She was crap. Always behind the play. But Sian Massey-Ellis was the best assistant going for several years. The quality of an official matters, not their sex. I have no problem with a female official provided they're competent. She wasnât crap, she was just massively inexperienced and it ruined the first half. she shouldnât be gaining that experience in the 2nd tier of English football. Todayâs issues were because theyâve fast tracked her, let her make her way up naturally instead of playing up to the woke idiots What does âplaying up to the woke idiotsâ mean? |
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Post by CurlyWurly on Feb 17, 2024 22:13:13 GMT 1
Furious at them in truth, I've ended up walking home (about 5 miles) to work out my annoyance. Defend one sodding set piece for a matter of sodding seconds, and we don't do it. Ignore the softness of the free-kick. We just needed to stand up for five sodding seconds and clear our lines against a side that we should have fucking beaten, never mind got a draw. Just the same as the first, don't deal with a simple ball into the box. And we concede two goals against a side that, hitting the post aside, offered sod all threat after the 7th minute. They came to shithouse a win, and they did. Utterly undeserved, but there we have it. Shot ourselves in the foot against bang average opposition. I hate teams like Hull. All that talent and they can be distilled into a phrase better associated with submarine captains in the Battle of the Atlantic. Had they tried to play some football rather than suck the life out of the game, I'd probably be far less pissed off at losing to them, because hey. That's football. Win some and lose some. But I don't go to football to watch a spineless, bottleless set of officials allow a team of any colours to just kill it. I get why they do it. I don't actually blame them. They've not been in great form on the road - or at all - and want to win at all costs. I wouldn't send a team out like Rosenior did. I'd prefer it if Town didn't do it either. But three points justifies it, doesn't it? Fact is if the boot is on the other foot I probably have a moment of reflection after the game that I don't want to see that sort of thing, but at the time I enjoy three points. Because I'm a football fan and for God's sake I'm allowed to be a hypocrite when it comes to a Saturday afternoon. Although I'll also say this - a win bought through cheating is tainted, and I wouldn't want us to stoop to cheating to win. I don't mind a Town player being booked for diving - we should be better than that. No, my issue when it comes to sides who do what they spent the whole afternoon doing lies with the officials, who have to have a backbone to deal with it, and they just didn't. The goalkeeper's timewasting was an absolute joke - he should have been booked in the first half, as should the captain for his part in that ridiculous routine. Meanwhile we have a player booked for timewasting on our corner because the officials weren't doing their job and checking the distance of the opponent. He was just inside that 10 yard mark - not much, but it just summed up what Hull got away with all afternoon. Not to mention the diving and the faking injury. There were two injuries in that game, but play was stopped for the greater part of 10 minutes across the two halves for 8 separate stoppages, 7 of those Hull's. The officials just have to be wiser. They have to be. And every time Hull threw themselves to the floor, it was a free-kick. Sunderland were the same. Officials just don't know what a foul looks like any more. Not least because the number of times I saw shirt pulls - from both sides, and one from Hogg on the edge of the box springs to mind as one we got away with - go unpunished when it's a foul and a mandatory yellow card must have been into double figures. And don't get me started on the dissent. Neither player booked for dissent should have been, and that comes from someone who wants more players booked for dissent. They were frustrated moments from both players, nothing else. A quiet word at the next break in play would have been quite enough, but no. And Spencer's booking was soft too. I don't understand why we didn't bring Radulovic on. I'm also frustrated at Healey's injury. Today was a day for a livewire in the box, who the ball might just drop to, who might create space with a touch and lash it home. Because that was our big issue. The number of quality balls in that Hull didn't deal with, the number of times it was pinging around waiting for a finishing touch, we could have won that game three times over. We also lacked composure when recycling possession. For the first time in a long time we had sustained periods of pressure, and we needed to be less frenetic. Someone who could put their foot on the ball and keep things ticking over rather than looking to create chaos every time would have been invaluable. All that being said, for all the frustration and angry, wet walks home, I can't fault the effort and pride they showed. Mistakes were made, which is why we lost the game. Ultimately Hull punished us and we didn't punish them. But mistakes happen and after the efforts to get the team moving again in the last four games I'm disappointed for them rather than in them, deep down. Just right now I could run 10 miles out of sheer annoyance. Or kick next door's cat, which spends more time shitting in my front garden than anything else. If the opportunity arises... And finally: That foul throw. THAT FOUL THROW. Minescule in the grand scheme. Didn't affect the outcome in the slightest. BUT HOW CAN ANYONE NOT GIVE THAT FOUL THROW!? He threw it at the back of his own head and it bounced off it. Don't give me some 'flow of the game' bollocks, because it's not discretionary. Foul throw. Throw awarded to the other team. To make a mess of something so utterly straightforward is mind-boggling. PARKLIFE |
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Post by Terriersmad on Feb 17, 2024 22:20:29 GMT 1
Furious at them in truth, I've ended up walking home (about 5 miles) to work out my annoyance. Defend one sodding set piece for a matter of sodding seconds, and we don't do it. Ignore the softness of the free-kick. We just needed to stand up for five sodding seconds and clear our lines against a side that we should have fucking beaten, never mind got a draw. Just the same as the first, don't deal with a simple ball into the box. And we concede two goals against a side that, hitting the post aside, offered sod all threat after the 7th minute. They came to shithouse a win, and they did. Utterly undeserved, but there we have it. Shot ourselves in the foot against bang average opposition. I hate teams like Hull. All that talent and they can be distilled into a phrase better associated with submarine captains in the Battle of the Atlantic. Had they tried to play some football rather than suck the life out of the game, I'd probably be far less pissed off at losing to them, because hey. That's football. Win some and lose some. But I don't go to football to watch a spineless, bottleless set of officials allow a team of any colours to just kill it. I get why they do it. I don't actually blame them. They've not been in great form on the road - or at all - and want to win at all costs. I wouldn't send a team out like Rosenior did. I'd prefer it if Town didn't do it either. But three points justifies it, doesn't it? Fact is if the boot is on the other foot I probably have a moment of reflection after the game that I don't want to see that sort of thing, but at the time I enjoy three points. Because I'm a football fan and for God's sake I'm allowed to be a hypocrite when it comes to a Saturday afternoon. Although I'll also say this - a win bought through cheating is tainted, and I wouldn't want us to stoop to cheating to win. I don't mind a Town player being booked for diving - we should be better than that. No, my issue when it comes to sides who do what they spent the whole afternoon doing lies with the officials, who have to have a backbone to deal with it, and they just didn't. The goalkeeper's timewasting was an absolute joke - he should have been booked in the first half, as should the captain for his part in that ridiculous routine. Meanwhile we have a player booked for timewasting on our corner because the officials weren't doing their job and checking the distance of the opponent. He was just inside that 10 yard mark - not much, but it just summed up what Hull got away with all afternoon. Not to mention the diving and the faking injury. There were two injuries in that game, but play was stopped for the greater part of 10 minutes across the two halves for 8 separate stoppages, 7 of those Hull's. The officials just have to be wiser. They have to be. And every time Hull threw themselves to the floor, it was a free-kick. Sunderland were the same. Officials just don't know what a foul looks like any more. Not least because the number of times I saw shirt pulls - from both sides, and one from Hogg on the edge of the box springs to mind as one we got away with - go unpunished when it's a foul and a mandatory yellow card must have been into double figures. And don't get me started on the dissent. Neither player booked for dissent should have been, and that comes from someone who wants more players booked for dissent. They were frustrated moments from both players, nothing else. A quiet word at the next break in play would have been quite enough, but no. And Spencer's booking was soft too. I don't understand why we didn't bring Radulovic on. I'm also frustrated at Healey's injury. Today was a day for a livewire in the box, who the ball might just drop to, who might create space with a touch and lash it home. Because that was our big issue. The number of quality balls in that Hull didn't deal with, the number of times it was pinging around waiting for a finishing touch, we could have won that game three times over. We also lacked composure when recycling possession. For the first time in a long time we had sustained periods of pressure, and we needed to be less frenetic. Someone who could put their foot on the ball and keep things ticking over rather than looking to create chaos every time would have been invaluable. All that being said, for all the frustration and angry, wet walks home, I can't fault the effort and pride they showed. Mistakes were made, which is why we lost the game. Ultimately Hull punished us and we didn't punish them. But mistakes happen and after the efforts to get the team moving again in the last four games I'm disappointed for them rather than in them, deep down. Just right now I could run 10 miles out of sheer annoyance. Or kick next door's cat, which spends more time shitting in my front garden than anything else. If the opportunity arises... And finally: That foul throw. THAT FOUL THROW. Minescule in the grand scheme. Didn't affect the outcome in the slightest. BUT HOW CAN ANYONE NOT GIVE THAT FOUL THROW!? He threw it at the back of his own head and it bounced off it. Don't give me some 'flow of the game' bollocks, because it's not discretionary. Foul throw. Throw awarded to the other team. To make a mess of something so utterly straightforward is mind-boggling. PARKLIFE Actually spat out my tea at that. Thank you! |
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Post by drewden on Feb 17, 2024 22:23:08 GMT 1
Furious at them in truth, I've ended up walking home (about 5 miles) to work out my annoyance. Defend one sodding set piece for a matter of sodding seconds, and we don't do it. Ignore the softness of the free-kick. We just needed to stand up for five sodding seconds and clear our lines against a side that we should have fucking beaten, never mind got a draw. Just the same as the first, don't deal with a simple ball into the box. And we concede two goals against a side that, hitting the post aside, offered sod all threat after the 7th minute. They came to shithouse a win, and they did. Utterly undeserved, but there we have it. Shot ourselves in the foot against bang average opposition. I hate teams like Hull. All that talent and they can be distilled into a phrase better associated with submarine captains in the Battle of the Atlantic. Had they tried to play some football rather than suck the life out of the game, I'd probably be far less pissed off at losing to them, because hey. That's football. Win some and lose some. But I don't go to football to watch a spineless, bottleless set of officials allow a team of any colours to just kill it. I get why they do it. I don't actually blame them. They've not been in great form on the road - or at all - and want to win at all costs. I wouldn't send a team out like Rosenior did. I'd prefer it if Town didn't do it either. But three points justifies it, doesn't it? Fact is if the boot is on the other foot I probably have a moment of reflection after the game that I don't want to see that sort of thing, but at the time I enjoy three points. Because I'm a football fan and for God's sake I'm allowed to be a hypocrite when it comes to a Saturday afternoon. Although I'll also say this - a win bought through cheating is tainted, and I wouldn't want us to stoop to cheating to win. I don't mind a Town player being booked for diving - we should be better than that. No, my issue when it comes to sides who do what they spent the whole afternoon doing lies with the officials, who have to have a backbone to deal with it, and they just didn't. The goalkeeper's timewasting was an absolute joke - he should have been booked in the first half, as should the captain for his part in that ridiculous routine. Meanwhile we have a player booked for timewasting on our corner because the officials weren't doing their job and checking the distance of the opponent. He was just inside that 10 yard mark - not much, but it just summed up what Hull got away with all afternoon. Not to mention the diving and the faking injury. There were two injuries in that game, but play was stopped for the greater part of 10 minutes across the two halves for 8 separate stoppages, 7 of those Hull's. The officials just have to be wiser. They have to be. And every time Hull threw themselves to the floor, it was a free-kick. Sunderland were the same. Officials just don't know what a foul looks like any more. Not least because the number of times I saw shirt pulls - from both sides, and one from Hogg on the edge of the box springs to mind as one we got away with - go unpunished when it's a foul and a mandatory yellow card must have been into double figures. And don't get me started on the dissent. Neither player booked for dissent should have been, and that comes from someone who wants more players booked for dissent. They were frustrated moments from both players, nothing else. A quiet word at the next break in play would have been quite enough, but no. And Spencer's booking was soft too. I don't understand why we didn't bring Radulovic on. I'm also frustrated at Healey's injury. Today was a day for a livewire in the box, who the ball might just drop to, who might create space with a touch and lash it home. Because that was our big issue. The number of quality balls in that Hull didn't deal with, the number of times it was pinging around waiting for a finishing touch, we could have won that game three times over. We also lacked composure when recycling possession. For the first time in a long time we had sustained periods of pressure, and we needed to be less frenetic. Someone who could put their foot on the ball and keep things ticking over rather than looking to create chaos every time would have been invaluable. All that being said, for all the frustration and angry, wet walks home, I can't fault the effort and pride they showed. Mistakes were made, which is why we lost the game. Ultimately Hull punished us and we didn't punish them. But mistakes happen and after the efforts to get the team moving again in the last four games I'm disappointed for them rather than in them, deep down. Just right now I could run 10 miles out of sheer annoyance. Or kick next door's cat, which spends more time shitting in my front garden than anything else. If the opportunity arises... And finally: That foul throw. THAT FOUL THROW. Minescule in the grand scheme. Didn't affect the outcome in the slightest. BUT HOW CAN ANYONE NOT GIVE THAT FOUL THROW!? He threw it at the back of his own head and it bounced off it. Don't give me some 'flow of the game' bollocks, because it's not discretionary. Foul throw. Throw awarded to the other team. To make a mess of something so utterly straightforward is mind-boggling. I walked 5 mile home too, I still hadn't calmed down when I got back. Their is a few proclaimers on here to have walked 5 miles. |
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Post by bleaklow on Feb 17, 2024 22:24:14 GMT 1
Wiles looked ok when he came on against Sunderland, but today he was weak - couldn't understand why Kasumu didn't start instead. As for Bojan, we should never have signed him or the
other bloke from Watford. Should have spent their fees on just one better player. How can Hull sign 3 Premier loans and we can't. There's no doubt we're missing Helik both as a defender and at corners. The effort was there but surely you've got to play people in their best positions. Koroma out of position as well as Thomas and Rudoni. The new centre back
looks quality. It's a pity we can't play every game as we did against Southampton in the first half - but it obviously takes too much out of the players performing like that. Let's
hope the new man can use the players we've got in their correct positions as well as motivating them - if he can't, then we're in trouble.
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Post by DuffMan on Feb 17, 2024 22:47:05 GMT 1
She wasnât crap, she was just massively inexperienced and it ruined the first half. she shouldnât be gaining that experience in the 2nd tier of English football. Todayâs issues were because theyâve fast tracked her, let her make her way up naturally instead of playing up to the woke idiots No, she was crap. Rebecca Welch has been refereeing men's games for over 5 years, since being appointed to the National League list in 2018. She's refereed in the National League, League Two, League One, Championship and Premier League before today. She's also refereed in the women's World Cup, two women's FA Cup finals, and is a mainstay in the WSL. She's got the experience. She's not been fast-tracked like a certain Australian, who pitched up, reffed abysmally in the Championship then got a Premier League gig after a year. She has made her way up naturally. Just today she made a pig's ear of a game that wasn't particularly difficult to referee. Nothing to do with her sex or being fast-tracked or not having the experience. Entirely down to do with poor decisions on the day. Gavin Ward was bloody useless on Wednesday in a game that also wasn't all that difficult to referee. No doubt whichever jobsworth we get next weekend will be useless too. Sheâs been fast tracked and her inexperience showed today. amp.theguardian.com/football/2023/dec/14/rebecca-welch-to-become-first-woman-to-referee-premier-league-game |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Feb 17, 2024 22:48:07 GMT 1
As much as their shithousing infuriated me, Hullâs tactical game in the first half completely nullified us. Surprised they didnât go for it more as they could have bagged another.
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Post by DuffMan on Feb 17, 2024 22:50:01 GMT 1
She wasnât crap, she was just massively inexperienced and it ruined the first half. she shouldnât be gaining that experience in the 2nd tier of English football. Todayâs issues were because theyâve fast tracked her, let her make her way up naturally instead of playing up to the woke idiots What does âplaying up to the woke idiotsâ mean? It means fast tracking an official so they can tick a box for the people insistent on being offended by everything |
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Post by richhtfc on Feb 17, 2024 22:55:14 GMT 1
As much as their shithousing infuriated me, Hullâs tactical game in the first half completely nullified us. Surprised they didnât go for it more as they could have bagged another. They did a bit of a job on us by sitting off I thought, once they had the goal I was so disappointed we didnât take one of Matos or Hogg off. We wasted so much time in that game. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Feb 17, 2024 23:15:23 GMT 1
Anybody got a cat that I can kick into next week Rebecca Welsh has a pussy ! đ đ |
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Post by richhtfc on Feb 17, 2024 23:23:41 GMT 1
Wiles looked ok when he came on against Sunderland, but today he was weak - couldn't understand why Kasumu didn't start instead. As for Bojan, we should never have signed him or the other bloke from Watford. Should have spent their fees on just one better player. How can Hull sign 3 Premier loans and we can't. There's no doubt we're missing Helik both as a defender and at corners. The effort was there but surely you've got to play people in their best positions. Koroma out of position as well as Thomas and Rudoni. The new centre back looks quality. It's a pity we can't play every game as we did against Southampton in the first half - but it obviously takes too much out of the players performing like that. Let's hope the new man can use the players we've got in their correct positions as well as motivating them - if he can't, then we're in trouble. Wiles is a good player, but why on earth are we trying to shoe horn him into a system with two disruptive midfielders and a number 10 in Rudoni? It was such a bizarre set up today, Wiles had no idea where to play and ended up next to Koroma up front. Get Wiles in the middle where his passing can hurt teams. One disruptor, one link man, one comfortable on the ball, itâs just not that difficult. We lost that game on our own today with a dumb formation. |
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Post by ebargum on Feb 17, 2024 23:34:54 GMT 1
Anybody got a cat that I can kick into next week Rebecca Welsh has a pussy ! đ đ   |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2024 23:35:40 GMT 1
Deserved a point on second half but our passing and crossing is so poor at times.
As for the referee,plenty of them are poor so there's nowt new there.
I'd say that guy was about 8 to 9 metres away for the corner when Sorba complained.He was told to play on and take the corner but still complained,only one outcome.
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Post by terryya on Feb 17, 2024 23:41:10 GMT 1
Ref today was like a supply teacher going in to cover bottom set y11.
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Post by sapphireblue on Feb 17, 2024 23:46:52 GMT 1
No mate, you were speculating. If . . . So you know their bloke was exactly 9.15m away then, or were you speculating đ No speculation at all, I could SEE the player was OVER 9.15m from the corner, the 10yrd markings make it easy to judge. As could the ref, and she told Sorba to continue, twice. He didn't (Ilson said 10m, the Laws say 10yds or 9.15m) Not withstanding the ref's performance for the rest of the game, in this instance, Sorba was booked for his over-reaction to her decision. No speculation, no whataboutery. Clear yellow. |
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