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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 10, 2024 18:23:52 GMT 1
Better side first half, we then had a mad 25 minutes and the game is gone.
Way too passive in that period.
If we fail to beat Rotherham next week then we deserve to be relegated.
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 10, 2024 18:26:04 GMT 1
Better side first half, we then had a mad 25 minutes and the game is gone. Way too passive in that period. If we fail to beat Rotherham next week then we deserve to be relegated. I think we only deserve to be relegated if we don't get enough points/goal difference, to stay up. What happens at Rovrum will not define our season. |
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Post by rockwall on Mar 10, 2024 18:34:38 GMT 1
I meant miles off. Very very close and in real time very difficult to give. Other way around, I would expect us to get it too. It looked more off in real time than it was. It was offside. I would expect a linesman to give it and it's another decision we've been on the wrong end of. All opinions, depending on where you sit or watch. Real time I thought it was on. After seeing replays, it is offside. Annoying. But I think it was very close and any football fanatic would want advantage to the attacker. |
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Post by Dan on Mar 10, 2024 18:38:13 GMT 1
Better side first half, we then had a mad 25 minutes and the game is gone. Way too passive in that period. If we fail to beat Rotherham next week then we deserve to be relegated. I think we only deserve to be relegated if we don't get enough points/goal difference, to stay up. What happens at Rovrum will not define our season. No, sorry if you lose to Rotherham you deserve to be relegated - simple as that. As such, Coventry, Norwich and Middlesbrough deserve to be relegated. Rotherham deserve to be relegated, and there’s already a thread about how we deserve to be relegated. EFL should increase it to 5 spots imo |
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Post by ibby on Mar 10, 2024 18:39:20 GMT 1
Shocking result.
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Post by runner76 on Mar 10, 2024 18:46:26 GMT 1
Not sure what’s shocking when a shit side lose to a top side?….. |
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Post by houllierspal on Mar 10, 2024 18:49:21 GMT 1
Second goal should not have stood, lees blatantly pulled out of way, officials just seem to get worse by the week
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Post by benhomly on Mar 10, 2024 18:51:56 GMT 1
Not sure what’s shocking when a shit side lose to a top side?….. Depends what you mean by top? |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 10, 2024 19:00:14 GMT 1
The second halfperformance was absolutely fucking outrageous, what were we doing? We had West Brom in our pocket 1st half, I was actually shocked at how bad they were in possession. Fair play to them they came out 2nd half a different proposition but why did capitulate so easy? Did we not expect it?
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Mar 10, 2024 19:03:01 GMT 1
I never thought i would say this but i dont think town will beat Rotherrtham going on todays performance
There can be little or no room for error in this relegation scrap but the town defence is just one mmmmmmmmmmmmmasive error
Lots of twists and turns yet to come but sadly you cant get blood out of a stone
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Post by terriers321 on Mar 10, 2024 19:04:18 GMT 1
West Brom are comfortably in the playoff positions. We have been around the bottom three and been shite most games this season. Disappointing as a loss is, it isnt a suprise we have lost today. And it certainly isnt the game that decides relegation.
Todays done, get over it and get some fighting spirit for the upcoming games that are going to really matter. We are no where near down and out yet.
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Post by ACW on Mar 10, 2024 19:16:53 GMT 1
Realised I quoted the wrong post with my earlier reply to impact. This was the one I meant to quote with this reply: What is it with Town fans? Wagner and Corberan oversaw by far our most successful seasons since the early 70s, yet they get little credit from some fans. Yet other managers, who achieved far less, are viewed far more favourably. I genuinely can't my head around it. I don't view anyone more favourably than Wagner. Then Warnock. If Carlos had been upfront, said he wanted to move on and waited for us to get compensation, I'd have had a lot more respect for him. Instead he waited until training started, resigned saying he had nothing lined up then rocked up at the dodgy owner of the team who'd beaten us in the play-off final. We got fuck all for it. The whole thing stunk. I also don't think anything I said about why he left isn't true. We spent more that summer. He either sued it as an excuse or had a seriously warped view of what we as a clue do in the transfer market. We had a 1 off year that wouldn't be repeated. I wasn't talking about the circumstances surrounding Corberan's departure. I was talking about his achievements at Town, and his tactical nous - which you questioned in an earlier post. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 10, 2024 19:32:57 GMT 1
The second halfperformance was absolutely fucking outrageous, what were we doing? We had West Brom in our pocket 1st half, I was actually shocked at how bad they were in possession. Fair play to them they came out 2nd half a different proposition but why did capitulate so easy? Did we not expect it? Spencer, Headley and Hogg way off the pace required for the second half. A good 45 minutes due to some very hard work was probably too much for them. Lees runs out of legs and drops off, which makes the whole team have to drop, its not a go at Tom its just how it is. Subs at half time might have prevented the game going against us. At 1 1 Burgzok misses a really good chance and the game then really goes against us. What it shows is that against the better teams 45 minute performances probably wont cut it. We unfortunately seem to turn out a good half or 30 minutes every 3 or 4 games, its not nearly enough. I hope we stay up, would I put a decent amount on it, nope..sad to say there are too many players not good enough and the overall attitude of the club for too long has accepted just enough and not enough from them. The little dog in the fight permeated the club, it needs to go, expectations and demands have to rise. |
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Post by htfcterry on Mar 10, 2024 19:40:17 GMT 1
That second half was as bad as anything we saw under Moore. Theres alot of work to be done.
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 10, 2024 19:41:55 GMT 1
I was sure that Burgzorg was going to take it around the goalkeeper to make it 2-1... their goalie seemed committed to going left. The Zorg showed a lack of composure and panicked a bit. I know the WBA first goal was offside, but this miss defined our afternoon.
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Post by impact on Mar 10, 2024 19:42:43 GMT 1
I don't view anyone more favourably than Wagner. Then Warnock. If Carlos had been upfront, said he wanted to move on and waited for us to get compensation, I'd have had a lot more respect for him. Instead he waited until training started, resigned saying he had nothing lined up then rocked up at the dodgy owner of the team who'd beaten us in the play-off final. We got fuck all for it. The whole thing stunk. I also don't think anything I said about why he left isn't true. We spent more that summer. He either sued it as an excuse or had a seriously warped view of what we as a clue do in the transfer market. We had a 1 off year that wouldn't be repeated. I wasn't talking about the circumstances surrounding Corberan's departure. I was talking about his achievements at Town, and his tactical nous - which you questioned in an earlier post. Someone claimed he was the best manager tactically in the league. I think that's rubbish and I don't see much evidence for it. He's been outplayed for 135+ minutes from 2 relegation candidates in the last 2 games and benefitted massively from refereeing decisions in both. |
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Post by mallyb on Mar 10, 2024 19:50:21 GMT 1
That second half was as bad as anything we saw under Moore. Theres alot of work to be done. Apart from 6 shots on target, so technically as bad as Moore over 6 games. We weren't clinical but had as good a chances as they did. Scored one that was ruled out for the same sort of offside that there first goal that counted. Played well first half and made them look bang average and even the second half was better than anything mooore produced. |
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Post by specialun on Mar 10, 2024 19:50:24 GMT 1
I don't view anyone more favourably than Wagner. Then Warnock. If Carlos had been upfront, said he wanted to move on and waited for us to get compensation, I'd have had a lot more respect for him. Instead he waited until training started, resigned saying he had nothing lined up then rocked up at the dodgy owner of the team who'd beaten us in the play-off final. We got fuck all for it. The whole thing stunk. I also don't think anything I said about why he left isn't true. We spent more that summer. He either sued it as an excuse or had a seriously warped view of what we as a clue do in the transfer market. We had a 1 off year that wouldn't be repeated. I wasn't talking about the circumstances surrounding Corberan's departure. I was talking about his achievements at Town, and his tactical nous - which you questioned in an earlier post. He didn’t have much tactical nous in the first half - we got our press spot on, made their defence look vulnerable and they didn’t have a single shot - not one! His arm waving was on level 10 Granted they came out fired up second half. Aided by a diabolical linesman decision to gift them a goal - after that the gulf in class showed |
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Post by specialun on Mar 10, 2024 19:54:10 GMT 1
It looked more off in real time than it was. It was offside. I would expect a linesman to give it and it's another decision we've been on the wrong end of. All opinions, depending on where you sit or watch. Real time I thought it was on. After seeing replays, it is offside. Annoying. But I think it was very close and any football fanatic would want advantage to the attacker. Where were you to think it was onside? Can only think behind the goal or getting a pint! It was clearly offside. Didn’t need a replay to check. Incompetence from the linesman who looked clueless all game |
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Post by stevvy on Mar 10, 2024 19:55:55 GMT 1
I was sure that Burgzorg was going to take it around the goalkeeper to make it 2-1... their goalie seemed committed to going left. The Zorg showed a lack of composure and panicked a bit. I know the WBA first goal was offside, but this miss defined our afternoon. Aside from the dodgy officiating and to be honest the dodgy defending (I mean come on, we had what, 5 defenders in our own box and he picked out the 1 man of theirs that was there), I agree re the Burgzorg miss. He had so much space to the keepers right that surely the logical thing was go on his left foot and bend it into the enormous gap the keeper had left to that side. 2-1 and at worst we might have maybe got a point, but it all just went to pot after they equalised I'd also say half time came at the wrong time. It allowed them to get in, sort themselves out, and come at us with a totally different mentality, which showed. Before half time we made them look absolutely ordinary no literally zero threat. |
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Post by drewden on Mar 10, 2024 19:59:53 GMT 1
I am stuck in this rollercoaster journey with Town 1 minute I have belief, the next minute it all comes crashing down, where we end up end of season I ain't got a clue, we have no consistency, let's hope this manager performs a miracle before time runs out.
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Post by bogart on Mar 10, 2024 20:00:40 GMT 1
My takeaways from today Lees isn't up to it any more. We desperately need Helik and Balker together. It feels like we concede the same goal every game, ball behind the full back, Lees or Pearson too slow to get across, their player moves a yard and taps it in. Lees should have booted it out for a throw. Go knows what he was doing. Probably offside, utterly trash defending. As soon as it gets hard, almost all go missing. Helik and Sorba the only ones who actually show up in difficult times. We STILL need a fucking striker. Burgzorg is frustrating but there's no one in the squad who can do what he does. Instead of booting it Lees trying his ballerina pirouette stuff god basic footie nonce needed. |
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Post by bogart on Mar 10, 2024 20:02:33 GMT 1
Ward has now missed 2 very presentable goal chances Cardiff and here today why do we keep playing him? Buggered if I know. Rudoni has missed 2 even easier chances than Ward’s in the last 2 games. Agree but at least Rudoni does more than just miss chances. |
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Post by ACW on Mar 10, 2024 20:05:45 GMT 1
I wasn't talking about the circumstances surrounding Corberan's departure. I was talking about his achievements at Town, and his tactical nous - which you questioned in an earlier post. Someone claimed he was the best manager tactically in the league. I think that's rubbish and I don't see much evidence for it. He's been outplayed for 135+ minutes from 2 relegation candidates in the last 2 games and benefitted massively from refereeing decisions in both. And... I told you the point I was making, and why. You seem to going off on a tangent, focusing on things that I've not even bought up. |
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Post by htfcterry on Mar 10, 2024 20:11:03 GMT 1
My takeaways from today Lees isn't up to it any more. We desperately need Helik and Balker together. It feels like we concede the same goal every game, ball behind the full back, Lees or Pearson too slow to get across, their player moves a yard and taps it in. Lees should have booted it out for a throw. Go knows what he was doing. Probably offside, utterly trash defending. As soon as it gets hard, almost all go missing. Helik and Sorba the only ones who actually show up in difficult times. We STILL need a fucking striker. Burgzorg is frustrating but there's no one in the squad who can do what he does. Instead of booting it Lees trying his ballerina pirouette stuff god basic footie nonce needed. Nonce needed? Bloody hell how bad have things got? |
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Post by drumriggend on Mar 10, 2024 20:12:22 GMT 1
I was sure that Burgzorg was going to take it around the goalkeeper to make it 2-1... their goalie seemed committed to going left. The Zorg showed a lack of composure and panicked a bit. I know the WBA first goal was offside, but this miss defined our afternoon. Burgzorg……… Foookin love him.. But I also want to strangle him.. 🍻🍻 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2024 20:20:10 GMT 1
West Brom are comfortably in the playoff positions. We have been around the bottom three and been shite most games this season. Disappointing as a loss is, it isnt a suprise we have lost today. And it certainly isnt the game that decides relegation. Todays done, get over it and get some fighting spirit for the upcoming games that are going to really matter. We are no where near down and out yet. Second half they sorted how to get through us and they looked dangerous every time they did. Second one a complete scramble but their 3rd was a worldie. They are a much better squad than us. Throughout the game we misplaced so many passes. If we survive we need to really improve the squad. We need better ball players and much better positioning. We had players with the ball with no pass to make. Headley looked really isolated at times. There is a lot of work to do and I hope Andre is the man to do it. We just need enough points to stay up, again. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Mar 10, 2024 20:25:33 GMT 1
West Brom are comfortably in the playoff positions. We have been around the bottom three and been shite most games this season. Disappointing as a loss is, it isnt a suprise we have lost today. And it certainly isnt the game that decides relegation. Todays done, get over it and get some fighting spirit for the upcoming games that are going to really matter. We are no where near down and out yet. Second half they sorted how to get through us and they looked dangerous every time they did. Second one a complete scramble but their 3rd was a worldie. They are a much better squad than us. Throughout the game we misplaced so many passes. If we survive we need to really improve the squad. We need better ball players and much better positioning. We had players with the ball with no pass to make. Headley looked really isolated at times. There is a lot of work to do and I hope Andre is the man to do it. We just need enough points to stay up, again. That’s fair imo. Usually the opposition are given little credit but the game was won at half time when Carlos changed tactics and his players delivered . In the 2nd half they looked like a Top 6 team with a chance of promotion. |
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Post by drumriggend on Mar 10, 2024 20:30:15 GMT 1
Must admit that once again the team we faced was technically superior to us..
That has been the case for 80% of games since 2019..
It’s a sad fact but we just don’t have many good footballers..
Our wins come from good energy,pace and effort..
Being realistic we’ve probably got 5 or 6 players who would get into the squad of a play off team..
Whilst I still believe we will stay up..
Huge investment and improvement required next season..
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Post by rockwall on Mar 10, 2024 20:32:29 GMT 1
All opinions, depending on where you sit or watch. Real time I thought it was on. After seeing replays, it is offside. Annoying. But I think it was very close and any football fanatic would want advantage to the attacker. Where were you to think it was onside? Can only think behind the goal or getting a pint! It was clearly offside. Didn’t need a replay to check. Incompetence from the linesman who looked clueless all game Come on. It wasn't clear at all. Why is it we always like to blame officials? If it was us attacking, I would have hoped we got the benefit of the doubt in thay situation as it was literally millimeters. |
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