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Post by drumriggend on Mar 10, 2024 20:48:12 GMT 1
Where were you to think it was onside? Can only think behind the goal or getting a pint! It was clearly offside. Didn’t need a replay to check. Incompetence from the linesman who looked clueless all game Come on. It wasn't clear at all. Why is it we always like to blame officials? If it was us attacking, I would have hoped we got the benefit of the doubt in thay situation as it was literally millimeters. It was offside tho.. Wether it’s millimetres or yards.. Offside is offside.. But shit happens.. We have to be better and not rely on marginal decisions.. 🍻🍻 |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 10, 2024 20:48:51 GMT 1
I don't view anyone more favourably than Wagner. Then Warnock. If Carlos had been upfront, said he wanted to move on and waited for us to get compensation, I'd have had a lot more respect for him. Instead he waited until training started, resigned saying he had nothing lined up then rocked up at the dodgy owner of the team who'd beaten us in the play-off final. We got fuck all for it. The whole thing stunk. I also don't think anything I said about why he left isn't true. We spent more that summer. He either sued it as an excuse or had a seriously warped view of what we as a clue do in the transfer market. We had a 1 off year that wouldn't be repeated. I wasn't talking about the circumstances surrounding Corberan's departure. I was talking about his achievements at Town, and his tactical nous - which you questioned in an earlier post. His football was as dull as ditchwater though mate, his main tactics was score a goal and cling on to it and score another when the opposition ran out of ideas but he's certainly not one that got away. He didn't really achieve anything anyway, he lost a play off final, it's not really an achievement. |
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Post by rantinray on Mar 10, 2024 20:51:36 GMT 1
My takeaways from today Lees isn't up to it any more. We desperately need Helik and Balker together. It feels like we concede the same goal every game, ball behind the full back, Lees or Pearson too slow to get across, their player moves a yard and taps it in. Lees should have booted it out for a throw. Go knows what he was doing. Probably offside, utterly trash defending. As soon as it gets hard, almost all go missing. Helik and Sorba the only ones who actually show up in difficult times. We STILL need a fucking striker. Burgzorg is frustrating but there's no one in the squad who can do what he does. And what would that be? |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 10, 2024 20:54:26 GMT 1
West Brom are comfortably in the playoff positions. We have been around the bottom three and been shite most games this season. Disappointing as a loss is, it isnt a suprise we have lost today. And it certainly isnt the game that decides relegation. Todays done, get over it and get some fighting spirit for the upcoming games that are going to really matter. We are no where near down and out yet. Second half they sorted how to get through us and they looked dangerous every time they did. Second one a complete scramble but their 3rd was a worldie. They are a much better squad than us. Throughout the game we misplaced so many passes. If we survive we need to really improve the squad. We need better ball players and much better positioning. We had players with the ball with no pass to make. Headley looked really isolated at times. There is a lot of work to do and I hope Andre is the man to do it. We just need enough points to stay up, again. It's been a big problem at the club for the last 5 years, unable to pass to another Town player successfully. Its been driving me nuts for years. It's a pre-requisite for any successful team. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 10, 2024 20:55:02 GMT 1
My takeaways from today Lees isn't up to it any more. We desperately need Helik and Balker together. It feels like we concede the same goal every game, ball behind the full back, Lees or Pearson too slow to get across, their player moves a yard and taps it in. Lees should have booted it out for a throw. Go knows what he was doing. Probably offside, utterly trash defending. As soon as it gets hard, almost all go missing. Helik and Sorba the only ones who actually show up in difficult times. We STILL need a fucking striker. Burgzorg is frustrating but there's no one in the squad who can do what he does. And what would that be? Score goals, that's why our top scorer is a centre back. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Mar 10, 2024 20:58:10 GMT 1
Second half they sorted how to get through us and they looked dangerous every time they did. Second one a complete scramble but their 3rd was a worldie. They are a much better squad than us. Throughout the game we misplaced so many passes. If we survive we need to really improve the squad. We need better ball players and much better positioning. We had players with the ball with no pass to make. Headley looked really isolated at times. There is a lot of work to do and I hope Andre is the man to do it. We just need enough points to stay up, again. It's been a big problem at the club for the last 5 years, unable to pass to another Town player successfully. Its been driving me nuts for years. It's a pre-requisite for any successful team. I've said it a thousand times: we need a ball-player in the middle of the park. We have since Mooy left. We had a spell with Eiting, and also with Russell, but one was made of glass and the other needed others to do his running for him. Otherwise, we have honest triers, plenty of energy, but little composure and capacity to dictate a game. |
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Post by rantinray on Mar 10, 2024 20:59:21 GMT 1
Sorry, guys, but I think Burgzorg is a waste of a shirt. If he is going to show us what he can do, he needs to start, right now. I just don't see a footballer in him, he was lucky with his goal as the keeper made a right FUBAR of it. Hey, I hope I am wrong and he starts to be engaged with the team and hits the back of the net, we need someone who can.
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Post by ACW on Mar 10, 2024 21:00:44 GMT 1
I wasn't talking about the circumstances surrounding Corberan's departure. I was talking about his achievements at Town, and his tactical nous - which you questioned in an earlier post. His football was as dull as ditchwater though mate, his main tactics was score a goal and cling on to it and score another when the opposition ran out of ideas but he's certainly not one that got away. He didn't really achieve anything anyway, he lost a play off final, it's not really an achievement. If you don't think coming third in the Championship with the squad we had at the time is an achievement, then we have very different views on what achievement is. You are of course entitled to your view, but I respectfully disagree. 😄 |
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Post by rockwall on Mar 10, 2024 21:05:46 GMT 1
Come on. It wasn't clear at all. Why is it we always like to blame officials? If it was us attacking, I would have hoped we got the benefit of the doubt in thay situation as it was literally millimeters. It was offside tho.. Wether it’s millimetres or yards.. Offside is offside.. But shit happens.. We have to be better and not rely on marginal decisions.. 🍻🍻 Agree it was offside. But leaving that to the human eye was tricky. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 10, 2024 21:06:26 GMT 1
His football was as dull as ditchwater though mate, his main tactics was score a goal and cling on to it and score another when the opposition ran out of ideas but he's certainly not one that got away. He didn't really achieve anything anyway, he lost a play off final, it's not really an achievement. If you don't think coming third in the Championship with the squad we had at the time is an achievement, then we have very different views on what achievement is. You are of course entitled to your view, but I respectfully disagree. 😄 It was all built on fakery and fraud, achievements in football is about winning things, not losing play offs. This is the kind of attitude that has held the club back for years, that failure is acceptable and that's why we're in this mess. In you think success is measured in losing play off finals you crack on mate. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 10, 2024 21:10:47 GMT 1
West Brom are comfortably in the playoff positions. We have been around the bottom three and been shite most games this season. Disappointing as a loss is, it isnt a suprise we have lost today. And it certainly isnt the game that decides relegation. Todays done, get over it and get some fighting spirit for the upcoming games that are going to really matter. We are no where near down and out yet. Stop talking shite… Sorry, I mean sense… |
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Post by durhamterrier on Mar 10, 2024 21:11:53 GMT 1
If you don't think coming third in the Championship with the squad we had at the time is an achievement, then we have very different views on what achievement is. You are of course entitled to your view, but I respectfully disagree. 😄 It was all built on fakery and fraud, achievements in football is about winning things, not losing play offs. This is the kind of attitude that has held the club back for years, that failure is acceptable and that's why we're in this mess. In you think success is measured in losing play off finals you crack on mate. I think if we’re honest that season was a really strong one but bar Toffolo and Colwill , none of those players really pushed on to higher levels which , in itself , shows how good a unit Carlos built . It’s worth saying that success and achieving don’t necessarily have to correlate . I’d say we achieved a lot that season but ultimately weren’t successful in our aim for promotion |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 10, 2024 21:15:40 GMT 1
It was all built on fakery and fraud, achievements in football is about winning things, not losing play offs. This is the kind of attitude that has held the club back for years, that failure is acceptable and that's why we're in this mess. In you think success is measured in losing play off finals you crack on mate. I think if we’re honest that season was a really strong one but bar Toffolo and Colwill , none of those players really pushed on to higher levels which , in itself , shows how good a unit Carlos built . It’s worth saying that success and achieving don’t necessarily have to correlate . I’d say we achieved a lot that season but ultimately weren’t successful in our aim for promotion I would agree Corberan deserves a lot of credit for getting Town to the play offs but he's doing the same job at West Brom now that he did here, with limited brass but we all know they won't win the play offs. |
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Post by ACW on Mar 10, 2024 21:16:44 GMT 1
If you don't think coming third in the Championship with the squad we had at the time is an achievement, then we have very different views on what achievement is. You are of course entitled to your view, but I respectfully disagree. 😄 It was all built on fakery and fraud, achievements in football is about winning things, not losing play offs. This is the kind of attitude that has held the club back for years, that failure is acceptable and that's why we're in this mess. In you think success is measured in losing play off finals you crack on mate. Sorry, I didn't realise my attitude was holding the club back. I shall spend the rest of the week suitably chastising myself. Jesus wept. Anyway, back to the crack... |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 10, 2024 21:17:37 GMT 1
I think if we’re honest that season was a really strong one but bar Toffolo and Colwill , none of those players really pushed on to higher levels which , in itself , shows how good a unit Carlos built . It’s worth saying that success and achieving don’t necessarily have to correlate . I’d say we achieved a lot that season but ultimately weren’t successful in our aim for promotion I would agree Corberan deserves a lot of credit for getting Town to the play offs but he's doing the same job at West Brom now that he did here, with limited brass but we all know they won't win the play offs. Maybe they won’t have to play against 13 blokes if they get to Wembley? |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 10, 2024 21:24:13 GMT 1
I would agree Corberan deserves a lot of credit for getting Town to the play offs but he's doing the same job at West Brom now that he did here, with limited brass but we all know they won't win the play offs. Maybe they won’t have to play against 13 blokes if they get to Wembley? Maybe, but there's not a hope in hell they will get to the final if they have to face Ipswich/Leeds/Southampton in the semis. They looked bloody awful in the 1st half today, credit for the turnaround, but we let them off the hook today. |
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Post by impact on Mar 10, 2024 21:28:23 GMT 1
Someone claimed he was the best manager tactically in the league. I think that's rubbish and I don't see much evidence for it. He's been outplayed for 135+ minutes from 2 relegation candidates in the last 2 games and benefitted massively from refereeing decisions in both. And... I told you the point I was making, and why. You seem to going off on a tangent, focusing on things that I've not even bought up. So why quote my post to make a reply (and also the 2nd post which you said you quoted the wrong one) if you didn't want to comment on what I was actually saying? I've explained what I said. I've no idea how that's going off on a tangent. I was also correcting what you claimed I said, which I didn't. |
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Post by Dan on Mar 10, 2024 21:31:10 GMT 1
Maybe they won’t have to play against 13 blokes if they get to Wembley? Maybe, but there's not a hope in hell they will get to the final if they have to face Ipswich/Leeds/Southampton in the semis. They looked bloody awful in the 1st half today, credit for the turnaround, but we let them off the hook today. They’ve taken 4 points off both Ipswich and Leeds this season. They’re a good side that are very well coached. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 10, 2024 21:38:30 GMT 1
Maybe, but there's not a hope in hell they will get to the final if they have to face Ipswich/Leeds/Southampton in the semis. They looked bloody awful in the 1st half today, credit for the turnaround, but we let them off the hook today. They’ve taken 4 points off both Ipswich and Leeds this season. They’re a good side that are very well coached. Out of a possible 12? |
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Post by CurlyWurly on Mar 10, 2024 21:42:22 GMT 1
My takeaways from today Lees isn't up to it any more. We desperately need Helik and Balker together. It feels like we concede the same goal every game, ball behind the full back, Lees or Pearson too slow to get across, their player moves a yard and taps it in. Lees should have booted it out for a throw. Go knows what he was doing. Probably offside, utterly trash defending. As soon as it gets hard, almost all go missing. Helik and Sorba the only ones who actually show up in difficult times. We STILL need a fucking striker. Burgzorg is frustrating but there's no one in the squad who can do what he does. And what would that be? Take a defender on and score? He's our second top scorer behind Helik who's a bit of freak. He's frustrating but no one is scoring that goal he did today |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 10, 2024 21:43:54 GMT 1
Take a defender on and score? He's our second top scorer behind Helik who's a bit of freak. He's frustrating but no one is scoring that goal he did today His detractors wanted him to pass it there mate. |
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Post by CurlyWurly on Mar 10, 2024 21:46:33 GMT 1
Sorry, guys, but I think Burgzorg is a waste of a shirt. If he is going to show us what he can do, he needs to start, right now. I just don't see a footballer in him, he was lucky with his goal as the keeper made a right FUBAR of it. Hey, I hope I am wrong and he starts to be engaged with the team and hits the back of the net, we need someone who can. Burgzorg is a waste of a shirt. Fuck my life. I suppose Danny 'Prolific' Ward, Bojan, Diarra,Hudlin, Simpson, Jones would offer more. Get a grip. He's not perfect by any means but he makes stuff happen. Perhaps the "waste of a shirt" title might be better directed at the rest of the squad who can't hit a barn door. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 10, 2024 21:48:21 GMT 1
Sorry, guys, but I think Burgzorg is a waste of a shirt. If he is going to show us what he can do, he needs to start, right now. I just don't see a footballer in him, he was lucky with his goal as the keeper made a right FUBAR of it. Hey, I hope I am wrong and he starts to be engaged with the team and hits the back of the net, we need someone who can. Burgzorg is a waste of a shirt. Fuck my life. I suppose Danny 'Prolific' Ward, Bojan, Diarra,Hudlin, Simpson, Jones would offer more. Get a grip. He's not perfect by any means but he makes stuff happen. Perhaps the "waste of a shirt" title might be better directed at the rest of the squad who can't hit a barn door. Some Town fans are thick as mince, we've been starved of flair players and mavericks at Town for so long that they don't know one when it's on the pitch jn front of their eyes. |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 10, 2024 21:49:38 GMT 1
If you don't think coming third in the Championship with the squad we had at the time is an achievement, then we have very different views on what achievement is. You are of course entitled to your view, but I respectfully disagree. 😄 It was all built on fakery and fraud, achievements in football is about winning things, not losing play offs. This is the kind of attitude that has held the club back for years, that failure is acceptable and that's why we're in this mess. In you think success is measured in losing play off finals you crack on mate. Ian Ross, Lou Macari and Lee Clark all lost in the play-offs, wonder if they're classed as successes, or is it just Corberan? |
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Post by royrace on Mar 10, 2024 21:50:00 GMT 1
Very strange game, superb first half, awful second. No luck, offside equaliser. They need to get their shit together very quickly though as we're running out of games.
I don't understand why Matos and Koroma aren't starting.
Rudoni for all the involvement he has and the workrate we see continues to deliver fk all most games.
I'm a big fan but I'm starting to wonder whether we'd be better off with him on the bench. Regularly misses sitters, rarely creates anything. Looks decent but just doesn't seem to deliver anything, ever. Frustrating to watch.
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Post by ldotm on Mar 10, 2024 21:50:45 GMT 1
They’ve taken 4 points off both Ipswich and Leeds this season. They’re a good side that are very well coached. Out of a possible 12? 8 points if you add both teams, so 8 out of a possible 12. Basically got the better off them in both fixtures. Judging them off one half is just naivety. Also, it’s classic Town fans to be like “oh they are rubbish because town are doing well against them”. We just absolutely nullified them first half with our pressing and set up. The same way we did Leeds.. Then Carlos changed the team around and they looked a completely different side and we couldn’t live with them, as good managers do. We looked dull under Carlos because guess what he had to adapt under the players we had. We got ripped apart when he tried to play fluid football and guess what.. he adapted and we came 3rd and were agonisingly close to going up. Anyone that says we had a good team are deluded. Aside from Colwill, who? LOB is back in the championship, then we had Lees and Pearson still. Sinani? Average. Thomas, Koroma still. Oh and Danny Ward up front who everyone thinks is shite as well. Anyone that thinks Carlos didn’t do a great job has an agenda against him or needs to massively lower their expectations. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Mar 10, 2024 21:52:23 GMT 1
8 points if you add both teams, so 8 out of a possible 12. Basically got the better off them in both fixtures. Judging them off one half is just naivety. Also, it’s classic Town fans to be like “oh they are rubbish because town are doing well against them”. We just absolutely nullified them first half with our pressing and set up. The same way we did Leeds.. Then Carlos changed the team around and they looked a completely different side and we couldn’t live with them, as good managers do. We looked dull under Carlos because guess what he had to adapt under the players we had. We got ripped apart when he tried to play fluid football and guess what.. he adapted and we came 3rd and were agonisingly close to going up. Anyone that says we had a good team are deluded. Aside from Colwill, who? LOB is back in the championship, then we had Lees and Pearson still. Sinani? Average. Thomas, Koroma still. Oh and Danny Ward up front who everyone thinks is shite as well. Anyone that thinks Carlos didn’t do a great job has an agenda against him or needs to massively lower their expectations. Agree. Can’t see how anyone can bash CC’s achievements with us |
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Post by utttrooper on Mar 10, 2024 21:53:13 GMT 1
Sorry, guys, but I think Burgzorg is a waste of a shirt. If he is going to show us what he can do, he needs to start, right now. I just don't see a footballer in him, he was lucky with his goal as the keeper made a right FUBAR of it. Hey, I hope I am wrong and he starts to be engaged with the team and hits the back of the net, we need someone who can. Burgzorg is a waste of a shirt. Fuck my life. I suppose Danny 'Prolific' Ward, Bojan, Diarra,Hudlin, Simpson, Jones would offer more. Get a grip. He's not perfect by any means but he makes stuff happen. Perhaps the "waste of a shirt" title might be better directed at the rest of the squad who can't hit a barn door. He wouldn't be in the fucking Championship if he wasn't as frustrating as he is and is someone the opposition can't contain |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 10, 2024 21:57:25 GMT 1
8 points if you add both teams, so 8 out of a possible 12. Basically got the better off them in both fixtures. Judging them off one half is just naivety. Also, it’s classic Town fans to be like “oh they are rubbish because town are doing well against them”. We just absolutely nullified them first half with our pressing and set up. The same way we did Leeds.. Then Carlos changed the team around and they looked a completely different side and we couldn’t live with them, as good managers do. We looked dull under Carlos because guess what he had to adapt under the players we had. We got ripped apart when he tried to play fluid football and guess what.. he adapted and we came 3rd and were agonisingly close to going up. Anyone that says we had a good team are deluded. Aside from Colwill, who? LOB is back in the championship, then we had Lees and Pearson still. Sinani? Average. Thomas, Koroma still. Oh and Danny Ward up front who everyone thinks is shite as well. Anyone that thinks Carlos didn’t do a great job has an agenda against him or needs to massively lower their expectations. Agree. Can’t see how anyone can bash CC’s achievements with us Can't see how anyone can bash Wagner's achievements with us, but they do, just to try and make out that Corberan achieved more, when he clearly didn't as we didn't go anywhere. Success is trophies and promotions. Only very few Huddersfield Town managers have achieved that. Are Clem Stephenson's 1930 and 1938 FA Cup final losses counted as successes? Is Ambrose Langley's 1920 FA Cup final loss counted as success? Is Lee Clark's two play-off campaigns that we lost, counted as success? Or Ian Ross' play-off campaign? Or Lou Macari's? If one manager losing a play-off final is counted as a success, then the other final losses ought to be as well... |
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Post by Dan on Mar 10, 2024 21:57:40 GMT 1
It was all built on fakery and fraud, achievements in football is about winning things, not losing play offs. This is the kind of attitude that has held the club back for years, that failure is acceptable and that's why we're in this mess. In you think success is measured in losing play off finals you crack on mate. Ian Ross, Lou Macari and Lee Clark all lost in the play-offs, wonder if they're classed as successes, or is it just Corberan? Maybe judging the talents of a football manager is slightly more nuanced than ‘he finished in that position so he’s the same ability as someone else who finished in the same position’ |
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