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Post by ldr on Apr 1, 2024 18:14:31 GMT 1
An entertaining game today. I can't fault the effort but think we lack confidence overall. With a bit of luck and more composure it's a game we could have won. I might be be in the minority but I love these end of seasons where every game is massive. Those of you who have been waving your white flags for months need to grow a pair Agree, so many twists and turns still to happen. No need to shit the bed yet.
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Post by Moooooy on Apr 1, 2024 18:15:22 GMT 1
You're assuming we're going to win some or all of those games? Based on recent performances we just don't look like winning a game. Week on week the games tally is whittling down, all we're doing here is putting pressure on ourselves, the margin for error us reducing rapidly as each week goes by. I'm not assuming...I fully believe we will It would have been 3 points today had Burgzorg passed to healy...the chance was there but as always Burgzorg plays for himself That's why I said weeks ago I would never play him again...he,s a joke..and a bad one It would have been 3 points if Kasumu had scored at Blackburn, if we’d held on at QPR, if we’d kept 11 men on the field against Leeds and Rotherham, if we hadn’t capitulated against West Brom and Southampton, if Koroma scored against Coventry. The players have proved on numerous occasions they aren’t able to produce when it matters. I hope you’re right but I’ve no idea where you’re getting your belief from.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 1, 2024 18:16:51 GMT 1
Coulda woulda shoulda.
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 1, 2024 18:17:32 GMT 1
Thomas defending for the Stoke goal was truly shocking, a pub player would have done better but overall one point more than I thought we'd get . Am I alone in thinking Jaheim Headley was the one most at fault for their equaliser? If so, what did I miss?
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 1, 2024 18:18:16 GMT 1
Thomas defending for the Stoke goal was truly shocking, a pub player would have done better but overall one point more than I thought we'd get . Am I alone in thinking Jaheim Headley was the one most at fault for their equaliser? If so, what did I miss? Sorba Thomas' half-arsed attempt at challenging their man.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Apr 1, 2024 18:18:48 GMT 1
You're a better fan than the rest of us because you're always positive. Every time we win or draw a game, you come on and basically tell us that we're all wrong and that we should all be ultra positive like you. You certainly ought to try a bit of positive thinking. Why are you so negative and why are you so outraged by my positive thinking?
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Post by daltonterrier44 on Apr 1, 2024 18:21:27 GMT 1
You're a better fan than the rest of us because you're always positive. Every time we win or draw a game, you come on and basically tell us that we're all wrong and that we should all be ultra positive like you. You certainly ought to try a bit of positive thinking. Why are you so negative and why are you so outraged by my positive thinking? it’s not very positive watching how bad the club is and how it’s been run though, looking at the table yeah we’re still well in it but realistically we’re gone…that second half was dire in a must win game that’s as good as they could manage?
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Post by King Neil on Apr 1, 2024 18:21:31 GMT 1
I'm not assuming...I fully believe we will It would have been 3 points today had Burgzorg passed to healy...the chance was there but as always Burgzorg plays for himself That's why I said weeks ago I would never play him again...he,s a joke..and a bad one It would have been 3 points if Kasumu had scored at Blackburn, if we’d held on at QPR, if we’d kept 10 men on the field against Leeds and Rotherham, if we hadn’t capitulated against West Brom and Southampton, if Koroma scored against Coventry. The players have proved on numerous occasions they aren’t able to produce when it matters. I hope you’re right but I’ve no idea where you’re getting your belief from. Everyone was expecting defeat today...we got a point and should have got 3 How can anyone just give up with 6 games to play and nothing in it?? All the teams around us have had good runs except us...football is a funny old game..there's a few twists left yet
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 1, 2024 18:22:12 GMT 1
You're a better fan than the rest of us because you're always positive. Every time we win or draw a game, you come on and basically tell us that we're all wrong and that we should all be ultra positive like you. You certainly ought to try a bit of positive thinking. Why are you so negative and why are you so outraged by my positive thinking? This team has won eight out of 40 matches. There is no positivity. I'm not being negative, I'm just not deluded enough to think a team that has won eight games all season is suddenly going to start winning every week.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 1, 2024 18:23:33 GMT 1
At no point this season have Town taken 9 points from a block of 6 games.
Hard to see how we will suddenly manage it in these last 6
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Post by itkterrier on Apr 1, 2024 18:23:50 GMT 1
Hopefully that’s the confidence boost Bojan needs to kick on. Would like to see him and Healey start together on Saturday.
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 1, 2024 18:24:14 GMT 1
Am I alone in thinking Jaheim Headley was the one most at fault for their equaliser? If so, what did I miss? Sorba Thomas' half-arsed attempt at challenging their man. Oh, it was half arsed. Agreed. Sorba is at fault there. Utterly let down by his teammate but you'd still expect better. But where TF was Jaheim? Why does he get a free pass for going AWOL?
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Post by fredcarno1 on Apr 1, 2024 18:30:48 GMT 1
Kasumu was excellent today. One I hope we can keep hold of if we go down Who the hell would want Kasumu other than another league 1 club if we were to go down. I'm sure he would stay with us should we want him to....!!! Agree entirely we’ve a squad full of players who aren’t top level League 1 players yet somehow people have convinced themselves that these players are either half decent championship players or shit hot prospects. The fact we’re in continual relegation battles tells you all you need to know. If we’re going down and folk are thinking we’ll be mounting a League 1 promotion campaign based around the likes of Ward, Ruffles, Jackson, Headley, Wiles, Kasumu, Pearson, Lees, Hudlin, Harratt et al they’re absolutely deluded.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 1, 2024 18:32:16 GMT 1
Who the hell would want Kasumu other than another league 1 club if we were to go down. I'm sure he would stay with us should we want him to....!!! Agree entirely we’ve a squad full of players who aren’t top level League 1 players yet somehow people have convinced themselves that these players are either half decent championship players or shit hot prospects. The fact we’re in continual relegation battles tells you all you need to know. If we’re going down and folk are thinking we’ll be mounting a League 1 promotion campaign based around the likes of Ward, Ruffles, Jackson, Headley, Wiles, Kasumu, Pearson, Lees, Hudlin, Harratt et al they’re absolutely deluded. Stop being negative.
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Post by Terry Jacko on Apr 1, 2024 18:35:12 GMT 1
Hopefully that’s the confidence boost Bojan needs to kick on. Would like to see him and Healey start together on Saturday. Fingers crossed. He’s got good footwork and his hold up play was fairly decent today, along with a great finish. Will have to get use to playing against some physical defenders.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Apr 1, 2024 18:35:43 GMT 1
I think we're gonna struggle now. We need a miracle.
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Post by Jimuano on Apr 1, 2024 18:37:29 GMT 1
We are such a confidence team...
Played our way into the game and got better as the first half went on. Deserved the goal and lead at half time. Still on a high, we started the second half very well. Good pressing and ball winning. A moment of shit defending from Sorba/ excellent finish from their bloke gives them momentum and we almost turn to shit with heads down for a bit. We can't hold on to a lead at all. We can't string many passes together. Rode our luck and grew back into the game. We could have won, they could have won. Fair result but frustrating as fook to watch. Several freekicks not given for us that should have been, and in positions we'd have got the ball in the box from. Gash ref.
Stand out frustrations - Why didn't Sorba cross into the box at the end of the first half, rather than playing it into the corner area until the ref blew for half time? - didn't understand that move, pissed me off. Burgzorg, when through on goal but at a difficult angle late second half, why not square to Healey for the tap in/ head in at back post? Just looking up for a player to pass to instead of going for glory at all times would be a start. He reminds me of another recent enigma - RVLP, who adjusted his game and became a decent player for us in the end.
Generally we were so so scruffy and painful to watch.
However, as amazing as a win would have been, this wasn't a 'must win' - we didn't play as badly as we have been doing recently, with some decent build up and positional play. At times we looked a real threat.
Bojan had his best game for us (what a finish!!), midfield 3 looked very composed and even dominant in patches. Jones is a very good option to have back at this point of the season.
Hope we can draw confidence from this and start getting some wins.
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Post by utttrooper on Apr 1, 2024 18:38:39 GMT 1
At no point this season have Town taken 9 points from a block of 6 games. Hard to see how we will suddenly manage it in these last 6 We did 9 from 5 between WBA away and Ipswich at home with a worse squad than we have now
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Post by dugnet on Apr 1, 2024 18:39:58 GMT 1
Better than Friday, enough effort but we do lack quality (but we know that).
Those remaining home games are critical.
Today's effort was OK, but we need more ruthlessness.
Not a disaster but still loads to do.
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Post by isitjustme on Apr 1, 2024 18:41:08 GMT 1
Who the hell would want Kasumu other than another league 1 club if we were to go down. I'm sure he would stay with us should we want him to....!!! Agree entirely we’ve a squad full of players who aren’t top level League 1 players yet somehow people have convinced themselves that these players are either half decent championship players or shit hot prospects. The fact we’re in continual relegation battles tells you all you need to know. If we’re going down and folk are thinking we’ll be mounting a League 1 promotion campaign based around the likes of Ward, Ruffles, Jackson, Headley, Wiles, Kasumu, Pearson, Lees, Hudlin, Harratt et al they’re absolutely deluded. Barring maybe three of our players, the rest don't have a cat in hells chance of interest from another championship club next season. And the three that might will only have interest from a newly promoted club also. Lets not kid ourselves...!!!
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Post by Torquayterrier on Apr 1, 2024 18:43:30 GMT 1
Apparently first time this season that Stoke have gone behind and not lost, pretty damning on our inability to see games out. This and results like Rotherham away put you under pressure. We are not down yet by a long way but clearly we need to find a way of turning single point games into three point ones.
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Post by ACW on Apr 1, 2024 18:43:30 GMT 1
The reactions to today's game show how we all see things differently.
Taken in isolation a point at Stoke isn't a disaster. And the league table is still tight enough to suggest there will be plenty more twists and turns before the season ends.
Town fans can also justifiably point to moments in matches where things could have gone better for us. The table could look very different.
That all said, when I look at our performances, I rarely see a team that consistently does the things I would expect from a Championship team. Both defensively and in attack we struggle to master the basics.
So, although I understand that we are far from relegated, and things can change in a short space of time, I see little from the actual performances for me to be optimistic about.
I always try to be balanced, but at the moment Town just don't look like a team capable of getting the wins we need. And it is wins we need now, not draws. We aren't going to draw ourselves to safety. At some point we need to start winning. And more than once. I just see so little quality in our performances that I really struggle to see where these are coming from.
And I take no pride in saying that. The last thing I want to see is Town back in League One.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Apr 1, 2024 18:45:11 GMT 1
To many town players on the field that look like they could not give a f--k if town stay up or go down
No team could survive with this bad attitude plus most not showing form
The paying public deserve far better plus the manager is not doing the job he was brought in to do
Town will be relegated for sure unless certain things change fast
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 1, 2024 18:45:33 GMT 1
At no point this season have Town taken 9 points from a block of 6 games. Hard to see how we will suddenly manage it in these last 6 We did 9 from 5 between WBA away and Ipswich at home with a worse squad than we have now I'm talking about 6 games followed by 6 games and so on from the start of the season, not a random 6 games at any point.
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Post by durhamterrier on Apr 1, 2024 18:47:50 GMT 1
Positives :
Bojan looked more than adept at this level A points a point Depth on the bench Resilient after they equalised - many town teams capitulate Brodie Spencer in general
Negatives :
Burgzorg is getting worse We look increasingly thin at the back We don’t seem to be scoring from as many set pieces as we were 1 point further away from safety
We can 100% stay up and it’s all in our hands - it needs to start with more clinical finishing . We can’t rely on clean sheets to win games
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Post by rothwellterrier on Apr 1, 2024 18:57:03 GMT 1
Hopefully that’s the confidence boost Bojan needs to kick on. Would like to see him and Healey start together on Saturday. Fingers crossed. He’s got good footwork and his hold up play was fairly decent today, along with a great finish. Will have to get use to playing against some physical defenders.It’ll be a baptism of fire next week against that lot.
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Post by Galpharmer on Apr 1, 2024 18:59:06 GMT 1
At no point this season have Town taken 9 points from a block of 6 games. Hard to see how we will suddenly manage it in these last 6 But but but
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 1, 2024 19:03:10 GMT 1
I think we're gonna struggle now. We need a miracle. To overtake the side just above us we need to make up ONE point in the next 6 games on a team that has only taken one point from their last 6 games,.. and that constitutes a 'miracle'?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 1, 2024 19:04:46 GMT 1
Am I alone in thinking Jaheim Headley was the one most at fault for their equaliser? If so, what did I miss? Sorba Thomas' half-arsed attempt at challenging their man. Sorba helping an opposition full back in our box to make up his mind, to cut back and across and have a shot. Its a well struck one but he really should still be outside the box with sorba pushing him out now? Its not a challenge, its not closing him down, its not showing him the outside, its a little hop with hands behind his back, Riverdance in a football shirt springs to mind..🙄
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 1, 2024 19:10:24 GMT 1
I think we're gonna struggle now. We need a miracle. To overtake the side just above us we need to make up ONE point in the next 6 games on a team that has only taken one point from their last 6 games,.. and that constitutes a 'miracle'? Don't forget about the side below us who have taken a lot more points than we have from games since Christmas
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