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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Apr 9, 2024 22:02:43 GMT 1
Any optimists on here?
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 9, 2024 22:02:58 GMT 1
What's Worthington ever achieved for you to put him above a manager that has won two promotions to the Bundesliga and a title in Switzerland? I don't think it's what Worthington has achieved more than what this guy hasn't achieved with us. I still think it doesn't matter who you put in charge, league 1 quality is league 1 quality. You can put a bird from Newsome in a nice dress but she will always be a Newsomer And yet numerous people are wanting Breitenreiter sacked. How the fuck do these players keep getting an easy ride?
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Post by shawsie on Apr 9, 2024 22:03:10 GMT 1
Apart from his record at other clubs, which is far more than Worthington has ever achieved. What record? German second tier then sacked from the Swiss league. The Swiss league which is maybe the 10th strongest league in Europe. His team selections, tactics (we don’t have any) substitutions have been incredibly poor and naive. He’ll take us down with a whimper then fuck off back to European obscurity. Hes got a tough gig but got to be honest and say not seen much to suggest hes the man to improve us long term. That said, if you keep recruiting badly or always in the bargain bin and there aint much coming thru the ranks either then its tough. Equally bad tonite from experienced lads like wiles, kasumu, thomas and the young lads spencer, jackson and jones were shocking.
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Post by Wingman on Apr 9, 2024 22:03:34 GMT 1
Remember when we had Duane Holmes playing for us? Not always the best but always a trier, competent on the ball the majority of the time, the odd moment of magic. Also completely settled in the area and not looking to leave the club. Apparently we needed rid because he was too expensive, so let him go for free and brought in Ben Fucking Wiles for 1 Fucking Million. Trouble for me with Holmes was that he tried hard but was gash nine times out of ten for a club he ‘loved’. Yet he goes to PNE and takes the piss out of us; something to prove. Another great ‘get them shifted by making public claims on them’ by DH. See Butterfield, Rhodes, Smithies, Hunt, etc. Holmes should’ve proved it at Town and he’d still be there.
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Apr 9, 2024 22:03:37 GMT 1
One positive of relegation is we will hopefully be rid of these perpetual losers. There are very few and I mean very few Id be in any way bothered to see go. A whole reset/clear out is needed whether we stay up or go down. You think we will get better players to come in if we go down ? get real you need some quality to compete and be successful in any professional division . Go down with this lot or whoever I doubt we bounce back but that will suit some I suppose with no aspiration but to escape whatever or whoever and watch shite on a Saturday afternoon or weekday night Have you confused my post with somebody else’s? Not once did I say we will get better players if we go down and not once did I say it would suit me if we were relegated. I simply pointed out an unlikely positive to getting relegated which I have since responded to imply I know it’s unrealistic, a post in which you liked? Then you reply with this… bizarre.
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Post by htfcterry on Apr 9, 2024 22:03:38 GMT 1
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Post by royrace on Apr 9, 2024 22:03:52 GMT 1
Pathetic second half, pathetic subs, but that penalty was the catalyst. They're so mentally weak. Never a pen in a million years, Matos always looked favourite, he gave it because they appealed. Fkin disgraceful decision and another that will be forgotten about, never mind it's only Huddersfield.
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Post by ldr on Apr 9, 2024 22:04:09 GMT 1
The more I watch us the more I’m convinced Breitenreiter hasn’t the first clue what he’s doing, he’s not much to work with granted but starting Burgzorg and Jackson tonight absolutely criminal. Too many players in the squad that can’t string 5 passes going forwards together. We are painful to watch. Agreed! I watched Rotherham the other night and they look more comfortable with the ball than us. The only difference between them and us is that we’ve got a wee bit of quality at the back in Helik and Spencer. Other than that, we are pretty much useless.
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Post by uw2ba on Apr 9, 2024 22:04:10 GMT 1
It was absolutely criminal of us to get rid of Duane Holmes. We are badly missing a hole player who can drive with the ball and open up space.
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Post by utttrooper on Apr 9, 2024 22:04:14 GMT 1
I do think we missed Rudoni tonight as he is food at driving us forward. I really wouldn't have put it past him to help us get a second before they went ahead as we look better with him in the side.
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Post by Jack on Apr 9, 2024 22:04:16 GMT 1
It's OK though as your special algorithm is never wrong... Correct. Still says we'll stay up. Keep the faith.
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Post by Flowerdisco on Apr 9, 2024 22:04:17 GMT 1
Burgzorg doing a Rodney Dangerfield impression at fans at the end saying he gets no respect! I was always told to earn respect but then I'm old school. Fcking snowflake
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 9, 2024 22:04:23 GMT 1
We must be one of the worst teams in the country in possession. It’s shocking at this level to be honest. Yep, can’t control a football, probably happens about 20 times a game at the moment. You can excuse the odd one being mid-controlled, but the amount we do and concede possession is quite something…
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Post by loumacari on Apr 9, 2024 22:04:42 GMT 1
Burgzorg giving grief back to fans after his performances. What a prick 🤣 Perhaps he needs to focus on his own ineptitude instead Burgzorg should be a long way down the list of people to blame for this current mess, despite him seemingly being the latest scapegoat.
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Post by Wingman on Apr 9, 2024 22:04:54 GMT 1
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Post by stanton1969 on Apr 9, 2024 22:04:55 GMT 1
Burgzorg giving grief back to fans after his performances. What a prick 🤣 Perhaps he needs to focus on his own ineptitude instead I'm surprised he saw the fans. He's doesn't bother to look up. I'd expect him to give grief to himself!
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Post by uptownfunk on Apr 9, 2024 22:05:06 GMT 1
What record? German second tier then sacked from the Swiss league. The Swiss league which is maybe the 10th strongest league in Europe. His team selections, tactics (we don’t have any) substitutions have been incredibly poor and naive. He’ll take us down with a whimper then fuck off back to European obscurity. What's Worthington ever achieved for you to put him above a manager that has won two promotions to the Bundesliga and a title in Switzerland? I’ve already said it all. He knew all the players, the league, the opposition, the fight required. He’s a club man. He had the fans behind him. He had some ideas of tactics. Players put a lot of effort in for him in his games. Any foreign manager immediately doesn't have any of that so was starting from a dreadful basis. Even talking this into account he’s been absolutely wank. Clueless. And I don’t like his attitude either. Arrogant and shit. The worst combo.
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Post by ldr on Apr 9, 2024 22:05:44 GMT 1
Worthington knows the league? How? He never played in it. I'm Town through and through, can I have the job as well? Might as well chuck Mark Lillis in the frame while we're at it, or any other random ex Town player. I could manage a game better than what I have just witnessed from the man in charge. Would you follow the no strikers for most of the game followed by three strikers at the end strategy? 😂
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Post by stanton1969 on Apr 9, 2024 22:06:03 GMT 1
I'd love to say there are......
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 9, 2024 22:06:03 GMT 1
What's Worthington ever achieved for you to put him above a manager that has won two promotions to the Bundesliga and a title in Switzerland? I’ve already said it all. He knew all the players, the league, the opposition, the fight required. He’s a club man. He had the fans behind him. He had some ideas of tactics. Players put a lot of effort in for him in his games. Any foreign manager immediately doesn't have any of that so was starting from a dreadful basis. Even talking this into account he’s been absolutely wank. Clueless. And I don’t like his attitude either. Arrogant and shit. The worst combo. Yeah you're right, give him the job. Brooky as assistant as he's a club man as well. I didn't see any tactics against Southampton when he threw away a 2-0 lead, but there you go.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 9, 2024 22:06:16 GMT 1
Pathetic second half, pathetic subs, but that penalty was the catalyst. They're so mentally weak. Never a pen in a million years, Matos always looked favourite, he gave it because they appealed. Fkin disgraceful decision and another that will be forgotten about, never mind it's only Huddersfield. Its like I'm watching a different penalty to everyone else. Matos ends up wrong side and kicks him. How was Matos ever favourite? His touch and subsequent decision making sums up why we will be lining up against Mansfield and Wrexham in August
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Post by willo on Apr 9, 2024 22:06:24 GMT 1
With my optimistic head on. Ipswich aside, this was our toughest remaining game of the season as PNE still have a chance of the play-offs plus we have a terrible record at Deepdale with just one win there since 1969. Bristol City have absolutely nothing to play for then it’s Swansea & Birmingham at home so still some hope however small. My big fear is how much damage has been done tonight in conceding another 4 goals in what has been another 2nd half capitulation. There’s still hope but it is slowly ebbing away after that 2nd half performance. And I’m not convinced by this manager at all I’m afraid.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 9, 2024 22:06:40 GMT 1
Worthy conceded five, another thing he was better at than Breitenreiter.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Apr 9, 2024 22:06:52 GMT 1
Can’t believe people are defending breitenreiter, decisions are terrible. Positivity has completely gone since worthy. Players are shit but there’s a guy who decided to play Ben Jackson for 90 minutes and take koroma off. The decisions from the last few seasons are upsetting lifelong fans and ruining something we love. It’s not fair on us and something needs to be done. Can't believe people are putting Jon Worthington above Breitenreiter. Though I imagine these are the same people that were begging for Chicho Pelach to get the job last season. Some fans know absolutely fuck all. Its not that I think worthy is the answer, but more that I enjoyed the 4 or 5 games he was in charge. Probably the only games I’ve enjoyed this season. Town for me are just one of them clubs where we need as positive manager rather than a tactical genius. The togetherness under Wagner and Warnock was brilliant, it was decent under Carlos but people didn’t connect as much. Since then we’ve had idiots who overcomplicate football and turn it into a tough experience.
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Post by efesodje23 on Apr 9, 2024 22:06:56 GMT 1
Calmed down a bit. But Jesus. No idea what the tactics are. Millwall was awful. Thomas playing in the middle, Kasumu playing wider than he was. The substitutions today... awful. Not seen us struggle to pass a ball and move like we have the last 2/3 games. Players trying to overload the right from goal kicks and then wondering why when the opposition win the first ball why they then win the second in the middle as no one is there then carve us apart. Awful, awful awful. Two of the most tactically inept performances I've witnessed in a row, and then truly bewildering substitutions today. Away from home, playing with one single central midfielder.
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Post by uptownfunk on Apr 9, 2024 22:06:59 GMT 1
Can’t believe people are defending breitenreiter, decisions are terrible. Positivity has completely gone since worthy. Players are shit but there’s a guy who decided to play Ben Jackson for 90 minutes and take koroma off. The decisions from the last few seasons are upsetting lifelong fans and ruining something we love. It’s not fair on us and something needs to be done. Can't believe people are putting Jon Worthington above Breitenreiter. Though I imagine these are the same people that were begging for Chicho Pelach to get the job last season. Some fans know absolutely fuck all. Defending Andre is not a good way to demonstrate football knowledge. Hes helping us to get relegated, not hindering.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Apr 9, 2024 22:07:07 GMT 1
So many players had shockers
But AB? Sorry, my mind has changed. This guy has fucked up too many times at the wrong time.
No strikers first half, we fluked a goal. Then he decimates our midfield by putting Healy there who we know cannot play in that position.
Meanwhile Burzorg remains on the pitch as a striker, if it wasn't due to his shitness we wouldn't have even scored our goal.
Does this guy understand championship football? It was West Brom all over again
What happened to game management? Shut up shop for the first 15 of the second half then push on. We cant we do that?
One dimensional bullshit.
PNE there for the taking tonight and we shot ourselves in the foot
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 9, 2024 22:07:36 GMT 1
Can't believe people are putting Jon Worthington above Breitenreiter. Though I imagine these are the same people that were begging for Chicho Pelach to get the job last season. Some fans know absolutely fuck all. Its not that I think worthy is the answer, but more that I enjoyed the 4 or 5 games he was in charge. Probably the only games I’ve enjoyed this season. Town for me are just one of them clubs where we need as positive manager rather than a tactical genius. The togetherness under Wagner and Warnock was brilliant, it was decent under Carlos but people didn’t connect as much. Since then we’ve had idiots who overcomplicate football and turn it into a tough experience. Only games I enjoyed were under Warnock, at least there was a man in the dugout who knew what he was doing.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 9, 2024 22:07:48 GMT 1
I don't think it's what Worthington has achieved more than what this guy hasn't achieved with us. I still think it doesn't matter who you put in charge, league 1 quality is league 1 quality. You can put a bird from Newsome in a nice dress but she will always be a Newsomer And yet numerous people are wanting Breitenreiter sacked. How the fuck do these players keep getting an easy ride? He has failed to inspire the squad he has. Thats his job. The players may not be good enough as a whole but from the team reflects on the manager. Other teams in the drop zone, Rotherham aside, lose games but can seemingly summon up enough to get good results against higher placed teams, it says a lot about their management. Our ability not to win enough games whilst still being able to fall apart in 45 minutes says it all.
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Post by Flowerdisco on Apr 9, 2024 22:08:16 GMT 1
Perhaps he needs to focus on his own ineptitude instead Burgzorg should be a long way down the list of people to blame for this current mess, despite him seemingly being the latest scapegoat. Win as a team lose as a team. Don't bite the hand that feeds you springs to mind. If he can't take grief when things go shit perhaps he should look for a career change. They are quick enough to take the congratulations when things go well.
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