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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 9, 2024 22:08:24 GMT 1
The men who judged that the squad they assembled for this season would be competitive have been shown to be negligent in their roles with the club.
There’s no point in changing the manager again whilst these two senior executives remain .
I mean this seriously, a panel of DATM members could have assembled a better squad - as many of us pointed out in the Summer. We have got exactly what we expected.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 9, 2024 22:08:39 GMT 1
Can't believe people are putting Jon Worthington above Breitenreiter. Though I imagine these are the same people that were begging for Chicho Pelach to get the job last season. Some fans know absolutely fuck all. Defending Andre is not a good way to demonstrate football knowledge. Hes helping us to get relegated, not hindering. Making Jon Worthington out to be Bob Paisley reincarnated is making you look a bit daft as well. But as I said, give him the job, we've made some fucking stupid decisions this season so we might as well make another one. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Apr 9, 2024 22:09:09 GMT 1
An attempt at a positive spin.. I'm still absolutely furious and fed up to the back teeth of these players. But here we go.. The players have conceded 4+ so many times that this probably won't feel as catastrophic as it bloody well should for them, and maybe they'll bounce back a bit more easily for Swansea. Although there was a total lack of quality still, there was some good attacking intent in the first half. Burgzorg, despite his antics at the end, played quite well first half, as did Koroma. Healey's long throws were good. At one point we were playing a 4-1-5 formation which is probably a world first. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 9, 2024 22:09:11 GMT 1
And yet numerous people are wanting Breitenreiter sacked. How the fuck do these players keep getting an easy ride? He has failed to inspire the squad he has. Thats his job. The players may not be good enough as a whole but  from the team reflects on the manager. Other teams in the drop zone, Rotherham aside, lose games but can seemingly summon up enough to get good results against higher placed teams, it says a lot about their management. Our ability not to win enough games whilst still being able to fall apart in 45 minutes says it all. This team have played under six managers in less than two seasons. What does that tell you? |
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Post by paderbornterrier on Apr 9, 2024 22:09:33 GMT 1
Just seen footage of Burgzorg arguing with some fans and been led away by stewards. We are a bit of a shambles atm, from top to bottom. We need battlers not lame one trick ponies who run round in circles then fall over. Time to drop him was two games ago minimum. I think we are a broken club. It's a shambles really, from King Kev to the fans. It's been listing badly since the Premier league and we are now one more blow from sinking like the titanic... get the lifeboats ready and let kev keeping playing the music because he's going down with it and all his captains... I reckon cartwright will jump off with the Rats. |
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Post by Moooooy on Apr 9, 2024 22:09:44 GMT 1
What record? German second tier then sacked from the Swiss league. The Swiss league which is maybe the 10th strongest league in Europe. His team selections, tactics (we don’t have any) substitutions have been incredibly poor and naive. He’ll take us down with a whimper then fuck off back to European obscurity. Hes got a tough gig but got to be honest and say not seen much to suggest hes the man to improve us long term. That said, if you keep recruiting badly or always in the bargain bin and there aint much coming thru the ranks either then its tough. Equally bad tonite from experienced lads like wiles, kasumu, thomas and the young lads spencer, jackson and jones were shocking. Apart from 5 weeks under Warnock last season these players have been a disgrace. They’ve thrown numerous managers under the bus and if we allow them to sack another manager we deserve everything we get. They’ll do it to the next guy and the next guy after him. Whatever happens this season we need a total clear out at the end of the season. Genuinely wouldn’t care if they were all playing somewhere else next season. Stop sacking managed and start ripping the squad up. |
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Post by terrierforever on Apr 9, 2024 22:10:10 GMT 1
Not good
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 9, 2024 22:10:34 GMT 1
Breitenreiter will leave at the end of the season and have success elsewhere in his managerial career.
The bulk of these players will leave at the end of the season and do absolutely fuck all in their careers, hardly any will ever play another minute in the Championship.
That's the difference.
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Post by stanton1969 on Apr 9, 2024 22:10:56 GMT 1
Pathetic second half, pathetic subs, but that penalty was the catalyst. They're so mentally weak. Never a pen in a million years, Matos always looked favourite, he gave it because they appealed. Fkin disgraceful decision and another that will be forgotten about, never mind it's only Huddersfield. Its like I'm watching a different penalty to everyone else. Matos ends up wrong side and kicks him. How was Matos ever favourite? His touch and subsequent decision making sums up why we will be lining up against Mansfield and Wrexham in August He stuck leg out but watch closely and you can see there player moves towards his leg and throws himself over it. A subtle dive, but not a penalty. |
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Post by Jello Biafra on Apr 9, 2024 22:11:15 GMT 1
How is it possible to assemble a whole ‘Championship’ midfield where every fucking player’s second touch is an attempted tackle or a chase? They’re all made of fucking chocolate, can’t shield a ball to retain possession, get blown over if a moth farts in their direction, are unable to weight a simple pass and have feet that turn into spoons if there’s a chance of a shot. That Brackenhall side of the 80s/90s would have fucking steamrollered straight through the soft coonts.
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Post by alexdire on Apr 9, 2024 22:11:21 GMT 1
I do think we missed Rudoni tonight as he is food at driving us forward. I really wouldn't have put it past him to help us get a second before they went ahead as we look better with him in the side. Thing is he can't control the ball or pass it either. |
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Post by Wingman on Apr 9, 2024 22:11:49 GMT 1
Warnock
Moore
Worthington
Breitenreiter
They’ve all tried.
Quite simply this squad is spineless and clueless. If they manage to drag their sorry arses over the line to safety, they still need culling.
Too many cheap options, players being asked to perform at a level way, way above their capabilities, and clearly cannot withstand any mental pressure to keep a lead.
Huge clearout needed from the Sporting Director to the squad.
Netflix tv show? ‘Ooh To Be A Terrier’ to follow us down the corridors to the away changing room at Stockport? A boardroom meeting to discuss how to sell more player calendars?
Or maybe just film the series at the circus. That would be apt right now.
Just so angry, so pissed off at the continual fuckuppery that is Huddersfield Town.
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Post by uw2ba on Apr 9, 2024 22:11:52 GMT 1
Breitenreiter is the most ambitious coup we have had in some time. It isn't a fluke that he's got numerous promotions and titles on his CV. He's had players like leroy sane, rutter and gnonto and now he's got Ben Jackson and Ben wiles. I think it's not fair to judge him and his style when he's been tossed into a relegation battle with a poor team and he's still learning his best side.
Four games, we can do this, we just need to get over the line this season then I'm sure Andre will be able to create his own team and we will see his true managerial abilities
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Post by ldr on Apr 9, 2024 22:12:06 GMT 1
Yeah, we are a step nearer to no increases on season ticket prices? |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Apr 9, 2024 22:12:18 GMT 1
We must be one of the worst teams in the country in possession. It’s shocking at this level to be honest. Yep, can’t control a football, probably happens about 20 times a game at the moment. You can excuse the odd one being mid-controlled, but the amount we do and concede possession is quite something… Its hardly surprising if the only passing we do in training is the pointless exercises they show on the videos where a dozen headless chickens appear to be chasing a balloon in an area no bigger than half a penalty area. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Apr 9, 2024 22:13:12 GMT 1
Breitenreiter is the most ambitious coup we have had in some time. It isn't a fluke that he's got numerous promotions and titles on his CV. He's had players like leroy sane, rutter and gnonto and now he's got Ben Jackson and Ben wiles. I think it's not fair to judge him and his style when he's been tossed into a relegation battle with a poor team and he's still learning his best side. Four games, we can do this, we just need to get over the line this season then I'm sure Andre will be able to create his own team and we will see his true managerial abilities Carlos got us third place with a back four of toffolo, lees, pearson and turton. |
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Post by Wingman on Apr 9, 2024 22:13:22 GMT 1
We need battlers not lame one trick ponies who run round in circles then fall over. Time to drop him was two games ago minimum. I think we are a broken club. It's a shambles really, from King Kev to the fans. It's been listing badly since the Premier league and we are now one more blow from sinking like the titanic... get the lifeboats ready and let kev keeping playing the music because he's going down with it and all his captains... I reckon cartwright will jump off with the Rats. I’ll personally drown Swiss Toni myself. With a lifeboat oar shoved somewhere it won’t make a paddle. |
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Post by ldr on Apr 9, 2024 22:13:54 GMT 1
The men who judged that the squad they assembled for this season would be competitive have been shown to be negligent in their roles with the club. There’s no point in changing the manager again whilst these two senior executives remain . I mean this seriously, a panel of DATM members could have assembled a better squad - as many of us pointed out in the Summer. We have got exactly what we expected. Come on! Name that panel! 😜 |
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Post by Floyds on Apr 9, 2024 22:14:07 GMT 1
The players are shit and the manager is clueless.
A bad combination when we’re at the bottom of the league.
Hopefully they all do one at the end of the season.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Apr 9, 2024 22:14:41 GMT 1
Breitenreiter is the most ambitious coup we have had in some time. It isn't a fluke that he's got numerous promotions and titles on his CV. He's had players like leroy sane, rutter and gnonto and now he's got Ben Jackson and Ben wiles. I think it's not fair to judge him and his style when he's been tossed into a relegation battle with a poor team and he's still learning his best side. Four games, we can do this, we just need to get over the line this season then I'm sure Andre will be able to create his own team and we will see his true managerial abilities Carlos got us third place with a back four of toffolo, lees, pearson and turton. Carlos also schooled him a few weeks back, he’s different level. West Brom squad is ordinary too. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Apr 9, 2024 22:14:46 GMT 1
Can't believe people are putting Jon Worthington above Breitenreiter. Though I imagine these are the same people that were begging for Chicho Pelach to get the job last season. Some fans know absolutely fuck all. Its not that I think worthy is the answer, but more that I enjoyed the 4 or 5 games he was in charge. Probably the only games I’ve enjoyed this season. Town for me are just one of them clubs where we need as positive manager rather than a tactical genius. The togetherness under Wagner and Warnock was brilliant, it was decent under Carlos but people didn’t connect as much. Since then we’ve had idiots who overcomplicate football and turn it into a tough experience. This is it. I do understand htafcokay's oft-repeated point about the Southampton game, we got as many points from it as we did today in the end. On the other hand, it was one of the most entertaining games of football I've watched in years, and the players actually had a go. I think it was the only time this season where the players have capitulated due to being knackered from incessant pressing, rather than the usual pant shitting exercise. |
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Apr 9, 2024 22:15:20 GMT 1
Breitenreiter is the most ambitious coup we have had in some time. It isn't a fluke that he's got numerous promotions and titles on his CV. He's had players like leroy sane, rutter and gnonto and now he's got Ben Jackson and Ben wiles. I think it's not fair to judge him and his style when he's been tossed into a relegation battle with a poor team and he's still learning his best side. Four games, we can do this, we just need to get over the line this season then I'm sure Andre will be able to create his own team and we will see his true managerial abilities Carlos got us third place with a back four of toffolo, lees, pearson and turton. Shush. Don't say that. He's the worst manager we've ever had say the DATM football 'experts', don't ya know? |
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Post by uptownfunk on Apr 9, 2024 22:15:57 GMT 1
Can't believe people are putting Jon Worthington above Breitenreiter. Though I imagine these are the same people that were begging for Chicho Pelach to get the job last season. Some fans know absolutely fuck all. Its not that I think worthy is the answer, but more that I enjoyed the 4 or 5 games he was in charge. Probably the only games I’ve enjoyed this season. Town for me are just one of them clubs where we need as positive manager rather than a tactical genius. The togetherness under Wagner and Warnock was brilliant, it was decent under Carlos but people didn’t connect as much. Since then we’ve had idiots who overcomplicate football and turn it into a tough experience. Bang on- from someone who clearly knows the club. Shame you’re not director of football. At least 75% of datmers could have done a better job than Cartwright. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Apr 9, 2024 22:16:00 GMT 1
I’m not going to defend Burgzorg but you only see one side of this from the video. |
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Post by alanalanleeee on Apr 9, 2024 22:16:11 GMT 1
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Post by royrace on Apr 9, 2024 22:16:42 GMT 1
Burgzorg doing a Rodney Dangerfield impression at fans at the end saying he gets no respect! There's lots of talk from the coach hinting that fans are on the players backs. Not a great culture to be creating and I don't know where it's come from. Is it the coach or are a few of the players cry babies who can't handle a bit of stick from 0.00001 percent of the fan base. I don't remember any coach mentioning it ever before. Weird and unhelpful imo, I can't see Warnock allowing that to become a big issue, surely better to put big boy pants on and realise it's a tiny proportion? I don't remember Dave Cowling crying. |
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Post by stanton1969 on Apr 9, 2024 22:17:11 GMT 1
Breitenreiter is the most ambitious coup we have had in some time. It isn't a fluke that he's got numerous promotions and titles on his CV. He's had players like leroy sane, rutter and gnonto and now he's got Ben Jackson and Ben wiles. I think it's not fair to judge him and his style when he's been tossed into a relegation battle with a poor team and he's still learning his best side. Four games, we can do this, we just need to get over the line this season then I'm sure Andre will be able to create his own team and we will see his true managerial abilities We will get over the line......the wrong side of it, unfortunately. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 9, 2024 22:17:40 GMT 1
Its not that I think worthy is the answer, but more that I enjoyed the 4 or 5 games he was in charge. Probably the only games I’ve enjoyed this season. Town for me are just one of them clubs where we need as positive manager rather than a tactical genius. The togetherness under Wagner and Warnock was brilliant, it was decent under Carlos but people didn’t connect as much. Since then we’ve had idiots who overcomplicate football and turn it into a tough experience. This is it. I do understand htafcokay's oft-repeated point about the Southampton game, we got as many points from it as we did today in the end. On the other hand, it was one of the most entertaining games of football I've watched in years, and the players actually had a go. I think it was the only time this season where the players have capitulated due to being knackered from incessant pressing, rather than the usual pant shitting exercise. I totally get it. But it's meaningless. Mick Wadsworth played good football at the start (which is often forgotten), but we couldn't win games. At the end of the day, a shite performance like Saturday where we win 1-0 is more valuable than a 5-3 loss where it was entertaining. Worthington showed in that game just how limited he is, and it would have been crazy to throw him into the job full-time with all that pressure on him. I can guarantee that as soon as he'd lost a few, the people on here who are championing him would have been demanding his sacking. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Apr 9, 2024 22:17:46 GMT 1
He has failed to inspire the squad he has. Thats his job. The players may not be good enough as a whole but from the team reflects on the manager. Other teams in the drop zone, Rotherham aside, lose games but can seemingly summon up enough to get good results against higher placed teams, it says a lot about their management. Our ability not to win enough games whilst still being able to fall apart in 45 minutes says it all. This team have played under six managers in less than two seasons. What does that tell you? Warnock got a tune out of them but as he said, you play to the strengths of the players you have and not the way you want them to play, especially if they're not capable. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 9, 2024 22:18:05 GMT 1
Carlos got us third place with a back four of toffolo, lees, pearson and turton. Shush. Don't say that. He's the worst manager we've ever had say the DATM football 'experts', don't ya know? No-one ever said that. |
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