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Post by Horney Barry on May 11, 2024 0:16:29 GMT 1
McCann or Rosenior for me.
Hogg as an assistant player / coach.
Buckle in Kev’s getting on with the overhaul.
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on May 11, 2024 0:23:42 GMT 1
Not being disrespectful to other people but Mcann, Pearson etc etc are a massive no no for me.
Rosenior, Bellamy, Hefele are the names mentioned so far that for different reasons would excite me. Dont think it will be any of them like just saying. Just someone young with new ideas and the energy to take on a rebuild.
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Post by Kenny irons on May 11, 2024 0:28:58 GMT 1
If it was me I’d be on the phone to rosenior immediately asking if there is a chance he could come in and start our project. If that’s a no it’s needs to be someone who knows the league and is probably have to go with a duff or McCann
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Post by jjamez on May 11, 2024 0:38:17 GMT 1
I want in no particular order
Pearson
Ryan mason
Marc bridge Wilkinson
Brian Barry murphy
Frank lampard (that is the honest curve ball option)
I can argue for all of them
Pearson- Suffers no shit from tossers like we have in the squad, would drill the players well
Ryan mason- Handled the Tottenham pressure fairly well. Better player than any we've got. Must have learnt from the likes of Poch, Jose and ange
Marc bridge- Wilkinson. Used to work at town before the academy shut. Played in league one as a player. Good links to a good academy
Brian Barry-murphy- elite development coach at man city. See above really, just with a pep guide and minus already having been at the club
Lampard- Did well at direby using good loan players, can't begrudge him his Chelsea move, but he wasn't ready. Everton was a shit show on par with us last season and I think he came out of it well really. Chelsea caretaker role was bad but so was they and their attitude, arguably worse than our lot considering they won't even perform for Poch.. He's got to rebuild himself as a manager and he might feel league one too low, but we also need a rebuild so it could be a case that we fit like a hand in a glove at this moment. Probably brings people with him that players in our squad looked up to growing up, like they might have done with him himself. Also will have good links to Chelsea and man city from his playing days for potential loan signings which were key for his derby side
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Post by htafcokay on May 11, 2024 0:47:44 GMT 1
Here we go again!!! This is getting a bit tiring now isn't it? I just fear we are now getting a reputation in the game. But saying that, would that put managers off? After all Watford seem to get manager after manager. I mean they would come knowing the 7 managers in 2 years form. But, they still get a decent pay off if sacked. So would it really put somebody off? When it comes to the new man, it get me thinking. Where do we go from here. Now the names I'm going to put are mostly for examples and not some that I think we'd be able to attract. But thinking about the routes we may go down: 1 - The manager seeking a reputation re build. Somebody who has been at a big club but has been out of work for a while. Somebody who needs to try build their reputation back. Somebody like Ole Gunnar Solkskjaer. Whilst I doubt he'd drop down to this level, is this a route to go down? Try show some ambition. It sort of happened with Mark Hughes and Bradford. Didnt work out, but the idea is there. 2 - The american connection. With Kev maybe wanting to put an american spin on it. Maybe he is sick of the choices that have been made so wants to influence this a bit. Jurgen Klinsman. Again, former USA manager, so will be known to the America fraternity at the club. Of failing that, is there anybody in the MLS who they think they could tempt? On a purely comedy note, imagine appointing Klinsman and he brings in Fotheringham in some capacity like he did with South Korea... 3 - The assistant manager wanting to strike out on his own. So purely for the fact I keep seeing this on twitter. Keep seeing posts calling for Pepijn Lijinders. This was a slim to none chance in the championship, so its laughable to even suggest him now. But what about others in a similar position. It has worked out well for Leicester taking on Man City's assistant. 4 - The no nonsense approach. Again, keep seeing this on twitter - Roy Keane. Do we go down the route of a takes no prisoner approach to weed out the pricks at the club who have got away with it too often now? I just want to stress again, I'm not seriously suggested somebody like Ole is going to come to League One Town. Just more the types of managers. Whilst I'm realistic, I do think we need to be ambitious and think the next appointment should be a bigger name than what would normally get in League One. I think we need to suck up the financial costs and push the boat out and think long term. No good getting a league one manager to get us out of it but then doesnt cut it in the Championship. Does anybody have any thoughts on this and a realistic appointment for the categories? Don't want Klinsmann!! He'd be bringing Fotheringham with him!!! |
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Post by uptownfunk on May 11, 2024 0:50:45 GMT 1
I don’t buy all this toxic culture stuff. A lot of this has just been Andre’s narrative as he tried to save his reputation with a pretty see through attack on players, his employers, even previous managers. We were shit under Moore but it’s wasn’t a toxic culture. We just didn’t win enough. He was too defensive but his squad was bare bones a lot of the time. I think we need someone up and coming who sees the positives of our squad - at league one level- and who’s happy to lead them in a successful season, culminating in promotion back to the championship. We need a motivator who can coach and improve players. Someone who can relate to them and get the best out of them. Yes we need discipline but we need the players engaged, motivated and feeling positive about the upcoming season. How do you know it wasn’t a toxic culture under Moore? I don’t know but I happened to go twice to canalside and the players ate together- mixed tables. Not specific groups. There was laughing and joking. The coaches and players were great with the kids / from Ireland to Moore to nicholls to Hudlin, Pearson but especially Sorba who really made the effort. Yes it was just a marketing visitor day thing but I’ve seen a lot of teams over the years. It might not have been a winning team but it’s wasn’t toxic. I totally get the anger at the players. They let us down. Uktimately, many will still be contracted next season. We need a new manager to get behind them & drive them onto better things, alongside some new personnel. |
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Post by ColchTerrier on May 11, 2024 0:57:24 GMT 1
Not being disrespectful to other people but Mcann, Pearson etc etc are a massive no no for me. Rosenior, Bellamy, Hefele are the names mentioned so far that for different reasons would excite me. Dont think it will be any of them like just saying. Just someone young with new ideas and the energy to take on a rebuild. Pearson with his track record of building clubs, leaving them in a much much better position than when he took over, getting the fans and players on the same wavelength - a winner, NO. But Bellamy and Hefele excite you? Fuck me. |
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Post by uptownfunk on May 11, 2024 0:58:34 GMT 1
I don’t buy all this toxic culture stuff. A lot of this has just been Andre’s narrative as he tried to save his reputation with a pretty see through attack on players, his employers, even previous managers. We were shit under Moore but it’s wasn’t a toxic culture. We just didn’t win enough. Ok we all know quite clearly by now you didn’t like AB. But don’t let that disdain cover your eyes to what is clear; if there was not a toxic culture then the squad would have been busting a gut like Wednesdays team, like Plymouth’s team, like QPR’s, to get us results. They didn’t. A section couldn’t give a stuff. It’s worrying the coaching team and Cartwright didn’t know about this or act on it sooner. Why did it take the imminent threat of relegation for it to be called out? It was obviously a deep rooted issue. There’s more info on the culture to come out I suspect. It’s so abundantly clear who wasn’t pulling their weight, but yes it’s all down to a serial winner of a German coach. Silly me. He wasn’t a serial winner. He won a promotion 10 years ago and a title in the Swiss league. Hes had some short, unsuccessful spells at clubs too in recent years. Nor do I base my opinions on what a temporary manager had to say. Yeah of course it wasn’t a great set up especially not in Andre’s time, by the end most definitely toxic. He got his approach all wrong he said so himself. I get the ire at the players and the timing of the attack on the players was in line with how fans felt for certain. No doubt there was some truth in what he’d had to say. I’d like to here Cartwright or Edwards pov and I’d also like to hear the players. We don’t often get to hear their side of things. What did Healey think to being brought on in midfield? Why wasn’t Ward in the squad or team. Why was Sorba position changed all the time. Why was matos not selected and the subbed a lot when he’d been ok at first. Good coaches turn teams and squads around all the time. The last good coach we had turned this team around, had them running and scoring. Corberan before him had some of them way above last seasons levels. A new manager with a positive outlook and a determination to succeed here can do so in league one with this squad, owner and a few ins and outs. No doubt on that for me. We shall see if it happens. |
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Post by BlueValour on May 11, 2024 0:59:20 GMT 1
I don’t know the scene well enough to suggest names but I would go for a young, successful L2/NL manager who sees a successful spell with Town as a stepping stone to higher things.
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Post by uptownfunk on May 11, 2024 1:10:36 GMT 1
I don’t buy all this toxic culture stuff. A lot of this has just been Andre’s narrative as he tried to save his reputation with a pretty see through attack on players, his employers, even previous managers. We were shit under Moore but it’s wasn’t a toxic culture. We just didn’t win enough. He was too defensive but his squad was bare bones a lot of the time. I think we need someone up and coming who sees the positives of our squad - at league one level- and who’s happy to lead them in a successful season, culminating in promotion back to the championship. We need a motivator who can coach and improve players. Someone who can relate to them and get the best out of them. Yes we need discipline but we need the players engaged, motivated and feeling positive about the upcoming season. I can only speak about Sorba at Blackburn.I live near Blackburn and chatting to their supporters, and reports in the Lancs Evening Telegraph, suggest that "toxic" is too gentle a word to describe his loan spell there. By the time he returned to us he was struggling to get in their squad, never mind first team. Yet Neil Warnock and Carlos Corberan had no issues with him. Had him playing well, creating chances. Good corners more often than not. As did Moore and he okayed well for André for most of his games too. Easy scapegoat is Sorba. I’ve met my fair share of prick footballers- Gary Naismith at town for example. I’ve met Sorba a couple of times and I’ve liked him so I’m gonna base my opinion on that until I decide otherwise but it’ll need to be more than Andres onion and more than rumour and gossip of fans. |
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Post by htafcokay on May 11, 2024 1:24:13 GMT 1
I can only speak about Sorba at Blackburn.I live near Blackburn and chatting to their supporters, and reports in the Lancs Evening Telegraph, suggest that "toxic" is too gentle a word to describe his loan spell there. By the time he returned to us he was struggling to get in their squad, never mind first team. Yet Neil Warnock and Carlos Corberan had no issues with him. Had him playing well, creating chances. Good corners more often than not. As did Moore and he okayed well for André for most of his games too. Easy scapegoat is Sorba. I’ve met my fair share of prick footballers- Gary Naismith at town for example. I’ve met Sorba a couple of times and I’ve liked him so I’m gonna base my opinion on that until I decide otherwise but it’ll need to be more than Andres onion and more than rumour and gossip of fans. Ask Tom Lees about Sorba Thomas. |
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Post by uptownfunk on May 11, 2024 1:29:49 GMT 1
Yet Neil Warnock and Carlos Corberan had no issues with him. Had him playing well, creating chances. Good corners more often than not. As did Moore and he okayed well for André for most of his games too. Easy scapegoat is Sorba. I’ve met my fair share of prick footballers- Gary Naismith at town for example. I’ve met Sorba a couple of times and I’ve liked him so I’m gonna base my opinion on that until I decide otherwise but it’ll need to be more than Andres onion and more than rumour and gossip of fans. Ask Tom Lees about Sorba Thomas. Again it’s only 1 guy. I know the story. He worked as hard as most the rest, give or take. Ie. 60-75% effort. I’m no lover of the players but I think with donkey additions they can be moulded into a team again. They need the right man. Ability to select him is in doubt. |
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Post by golcarexile on May 11, 2024 4:37:28 GMT 1
For a club like ours, to get to the Premier League you need every single star to align and a massive slice of good fortune on the side. To reach the Championship playoffs, you need a lot of things to go your way and no small amount of luck. Getting out of league one is hard, as we've found before, but hard graft and making the correct decisions at the right time is paramount. This first decision that needs to be made is huge.
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Post by htfc1984 on May 11, 2024 5:49:18 GMT 1
Ask Tom Lees about Sorba Thomas. Again it’s only 1 guy. I know the story. He worked as hard as most the rest, give or take. Ie. 60-75% effort. I’m no lover of the players but I think with donkey additions they can be moulded into a team again. They need the right man. Ability to select him is in doubt. What’s the story ? I have heard something from a very senior player that from day one his arrogance was a massive problem . This arrogance has also grown with his own self worth |
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Post by Up the Duff. on May 11, 2024 6:13:17 GMT 1
My choice would be Rowett if he isn't getting the job at Birmingham.
Bellamy escaped a charge of bullying of English kids whilst at Cardiff and as yet has no proven record in management. We quite simply are not in a position of taking such a punt.
Hefele.. on what basis ? Because he was a character and a fans favourite. Do me a favour.
Rosenior has pedigree but would our fans accept his pass, pass, pass football? Secondly, our current squad can't pass it 5 yards. We would need to get rid of 20 players 🤣🤣
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Post by Jimuano on May 11, 2024 7:09:22 GMT 1
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Post by duncfost01 on May 11, 2024 7:12:25 GMT 1
I struggle to understand how Cartwright and Edward’s are still employed.
I’m struggling also to think of decent decision they have made.
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Post by irverino on May 11, 2024 7:41:21 GMT 1
My choice would be Rowett if he isn't getting the job at Birmingham. Bellamy escaped a charge of bullying of English kids whilst at Cardiff and as yet has no proven record in management. We quite simply are not in a position of taking such a punt. Hefele.. on what basis ? Because he was a character and a fans favourite. Do me a favour. Rosenior has pedigree but would our fans accept his pass, pass, pass football? Secondly, our current squad can't pass it 5 yards. We would need to get rid of 20 players 🤣🤣 Had a quick look on Brum SM sites to see if any decision has been made on TM or GR but no mention of who will be in charge at St Andrews, they haven't even announced season card prices yet, although they have had an open letter from their American owner & a Barry Fry video telling Blue noses how he did the league & cup double (autoglass) last time they were in the 3rd tier.......Brum are 3/1 for title & Town 2nd Favs @9/1, a big gap in odds so maybe the bookies think their Yank will get it right this time after both got it so horribly wrong (on the grass) in the last 12 months. |
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Post by kennyk2 on May 11, 2024 7:48:32 GMT 1
Whatever happens with the new manager, let's not forget we also need to get rid of the rotten clique of players that were also responsible for this mess. No point in letting the new man try and sort this out. They shouldn't be allowed to get away with it, otherwise we are only kicking the problem into the long grass.
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Post by nicovaesen on May 11, 2024 8:00:22 GMT 1
Rosenior
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Post by irverino on May 11, 2024 8:04:47 GMT 1
Not being disrespectful to other people but Mcann, Pearson etc etc are a massive no no for me. Rosenior, Bellamy, Hefele are the names mentioned so far that for different reasons would excite me. Dont think it will be any of them like just saying. Just someone young with new ideas and the energy to take on a rebuild. Pearson with his track record of building clubs, leaving them in a much much better position than when he took over, getting the fans and players on the same wavelength - a winner, NO. But Bellamy and Hefele excite you? Fuck me. Quite a lot of different opinions on who we should go for, older dude who's been there & done it or a younger enthusiast guy who's had a bit of success with lower league or academy teams.........My view is if we want an immediate return to the Championship then someone like Nigel Pearson would be very hard to dismiss. |
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on May 11, 2024 8:26:20 GMT 1
Will Stills available.
If there was ever a managerial appointment that could get the Town buzzing again that would be it
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 11, 2024 8:35:48 GMT 1
Duff or Rosenior
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Post by 2ellandback on May 11, 2024 8:39:18 GMT 1
Will Stills available. If there was ever a managerial appointment that could get the Town buzzing again that would be it Think you need to set your sights much lower than Will Still. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 11, 2024 8:40:47 GMT 1
Can't access SkyBet being abroad. Any betting odds available yet?
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Post by nicovaesen on May 11, 2024 8:44:19 GMT 1
For a club like ours, to get to the Premier League you need every single star to align and a massive slice of good fortune on the side. To reach the Championship playoffs, you need a lot of things to go your way and no small amount of luck. Getting out of league one is hard, as we've found before, but hard graft and making the correct decisions at the right time is paramount. This first decision that needs to be made is huge. I agree partly but then the small club mentality is why we are where we are we are no smaller than Brighton for example and certainly no smaller than Bournemouth. It’s weird that clubs like them can spend hundreds of millions and not worry about FFP. I’m not advocating for us to do the same just if you’re willing to take a chance and invest then it’s achievable. |
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Post by boooothy on May 11, 2024 8:44:39 GMT 1
Heckingbottom, Pearson, Lampard.
If either of those would consider managing in division 3.
The appointment will tell us a lot about. Hardly any of the names mentioned on this thread would come without a very ambitious sales pitch.
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Post by boooothy on May 11, 2024 8:46:32 GMT 1
Can't access SkyBet being abroad. Any betting odds available yet? No |
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Post by htafcokay on May 11, 2024 8:47:04 GMT 1
Will Stills available. If there was ever a managerial appointment that could get the Town buzzing again that would be it Why, because he's a Facebook meme? |
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Post by exberlinerterrier on May 11, 2024 9:00:23 GMT 1
Think I’m finding it difficult to be too enthused about most of the names mentioned on here. Not so much because I wanted AB to stay, but more because we’re very clearly looking at a set of candidates suited to League 1. That’s not to say it’s an awful league or a poor standard, but the pull of the Championship and the resulting ability to attract an exciting name or higher calibre of coach is no more. Just hope we make the right decision and have a coach for a season or two at least.
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