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Post by Moooooy on May 10, 2024 22:25:15 GMT 1
In Nagles statement he said we’re looking for a manager dedicated to our ideals and vision. Does anyone have any idea what our ideals and vision is? Genuinely haven't got a clue what we’re looking for. What style of football do we want to play? It seems like we’ve dusted off Lee Clark’s bingo machine and are now using it to choose managers. The folk in charge don’t seem to have any clue what they’re looking for.
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Post by boooothy on May 10, 2024 22:28:24 GMT 1
I’d take Lampard purely for the 2 Chelsea loans he would bring with him.
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Post by Uddersfeeled on May 10, 2024 22:30:56 GMT 1
Be nice to go 43 regular season matches without defeat though.
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Post by utttrooper on May 10, 2024 22:32:08 GMT 1
Be nice to go 43 regular season matches without defeat though. Just get Moore in for 43 games then. |
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Post by irverino on May 10, 2024 22:34:41 GMT 1
Can folk stop saying Neil Warnock it’s beyond tedious and not remotely funny! Cheers. The Beeb saying today that NW has joined Torquay United on a advisory role..........If we could find the 35 year old version of Neil. |
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Post by wigster on May 10, 2024 22:36:57 GMT 1
I don’t buy all this toxic culture stuff. A lot of this has just been Andre’s narrative as he tried to save his reputation with a pretty see through attack on players, his employers, even previous managers. We were shit under Moore but it’s wasn’t a toxic culture. We just didn’t win enough. He was too defensive but his squad was bare bones a lot of the time. I think we need someone up and coming who sees the positives of our squad - at league one level- and who’s happy to lead them in a successful season, culminating in promotion back to the championship. We need a motivator who can coach and improve players. Someone who can relate to them and get the best out of them. Yes we need discipline but we need the players engaged, motivated and feeling positive about the upcoming season. I can only speak about Sorba at Blackburn.I live near Blackburn and chatting to their supporters, and reports in the Lancs Evening Telegraph, suggest that "toxic" is too gentle a word to describe his loan spell there. By the time he returned to us he was struggling to get in their squad, never mind first team. |
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on May 10, 2024 22:42:24 GMT 1
Oh my god if II see NW name again I may explode.
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on May 10, 2024 22:42:58 GMT 1
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Post by Dan on May 10, 2024 22:43:40 GMT 1
Oh great, another few weeks of your shite |
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Post by Cornish Pasty on May 10, 2024 22:45:42 GMT 1
If looking for a raw manager, with no coaching experience, 35 years old and knows the club and current players - Jonathan Hogg... Apologies in advance, I've been out on the pop!
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Post by willo on May 10, 2024 22:51:49 GMT 1
Alex Neil or Grant McCann if Donny aren’t promoted. Someone who can command respect from the players, be a presence in the dugout, has experience of League 1 and takes no shit. Absolutely no more unknowns from Europe or “projects” like Fotheringham. We have to learn from our recent past mistakes.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on May 10, 2024 22:51:55 GMT 1
McCann is out of the playoffs.
Go get him KN!
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 10, 2024 22:52:15 GMT 1
I don’t buy all this toxic culture stuff. A lot of this has just been Andre’s narrative as he tried to save his reputation with a pretty see through attack on players, his employers, even previous managers. We were shit under Moore but it’s wasn’t a toxic culture. We just didn’t win enough. He was too defensive but his squad was bare bones a lot of the time. I think we need someone up and coming who sees the positives of our squad - at league one level- and who’s happy to lead them in a successful season, culminating in promotion back to the championship. We need a motivator who can coach and improve players. Someone who can relate to them and get the best out of them. Yes we need discipline but we need the players engaged, motivated and feeling positive about the upcoming season. How do you know it wasn’t a toxic culture under Moore? |
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Post by utttrooper on May 10, 2024 22:53:42 GMT 1
Oh my god if II see NW name again I may explode. What about that fella Torquay are looking to appoint. He looks like a decent manager |
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Post by Wingman on May 10, 2024 22:56:19 GMT 1
I don’t buy all this toxic culture stuff. A lot of this has just been Andre’s narrative as he tried to save his reputation with a pretty see through attack on players, his employers, even previous managers. We were shit under Moore but it’s wasn’t a toxic culture. We just didn’t win enough. Ok we all know quite clearly by now you didn’t like AB. But don’t let that disdain cover your eyes to what is clear; if there was not a toxic culture then the squad would have been busting a gut like Wednesdays team, like Plymouth’s team, like QPR’s, to get us results. They didn’t. A section couldn’t give a stuff. It’s worrying the coaching team and Cartwright didn’t know about this or act on it sooner. Why did it take the imminent threat of relegation for it to be called out? It was obviously a deep rooted issue. There’s more info on the culture to come out I suspect. It’s so abundantly clear who wasn’t pulling their weight, but yes it’s all down to a serial winner of a German coach. Silly me. |
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Post by Wingman on May 10, 2024 22:57:44 GMT 1
McCann is out of the playoffs. Go get him KN! No thanks, he was found out badly at Peterborough in the Champ and at Hull. We can do better. How much better, let’s see! |
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Post by dbterrier32 on May 10, 2024 23:03:47 GMT 1
Here we go again!!! This is getting a bit tiring now isn't it? I just fear we are now getting a reputation in the game. But saying that, would that put managers off? After all Watford seem to get manager after manager. I mean they would come knowing the 7 managers in 2 years form. But, they still get a decent pay off if sacked. So would it really put somebody off?
When it comes to the new man, it get me thinking. Where do we go from here. Now the names I'm going to put are mostly for examples and not some that I think we'd be able to attract. But thinking about the routes we may go down:
1 - The manager seeking a reputation re build. Somebody who has been at a big club but has been out of work for a while. Somebody who needs to try build their reputation back. Somebody like Ole Gunnar Solkskjaer. Whilst I doubt he'd drop down to this level, is this a route to go down? Try show some ambition. It sort of happened with Mark Hughes and Bradford. Didnt work out, but the idea is there.
2 - The american connection. With Kev maybe wanting to put an american spin on it. Maybe he is sick of the choices that have been made so wants to influence this a bit. Jurgen Klinsman. Again, former USA manager, so will be known to the America fraternity at the club. Of failing that, is there anybody in the MLS who they think they could tempt? On a purely comedy note, imagine appointing Klinsman and he brings in Fotheringham in some capacity like he did with South Korea...
3 - The assistant manager wanting to strike out on his own. So purely for the fact I keep seeing this on twitter. Keep seeing posts calling for Pepijn Lijinders. This was a slim to none chance in the championship, so its laughable to even suggest him now. But what about others in a similar position. It has worked out well for Leicester taking on Man City's assistant.
4 - The no nonsense approach. Again, keep seeing this on twitter - Roy Keane. Do we go down the route of a takes no prisoner approach to weed out the pricks at the club who have got away with it too often now?
I just want to stress again, I'm not seriously suggested somebody like Ole is going to come to League One Town. Just more the types of managers. Whilst I'm realistic, I do think we need to be ambitious and think the next appointment should be a bigger name than what would normally get in League One. I think we need to suck up the financial costs and push the boat out and think long term. No good getting a league one manager to get us out of it but then doesnt cut it in the Championship.
Does anybody have any thoughts on this and a realistic appointment for the categories?
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Post by gowlinggoal on May 10, 2024 23:05:50 GMT 1
I'd try seeing if Dave Challinor will join us. Three promotions in 4 years with unfancied teams (and a play off in the other). If not him Richie Wellens. Both prepared to use young players and try to be attractive. Although a winning team always feels better than a losing one.
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Post by Amigo on May 10, 2024 23:06:48 GMT 1
Because it appears to be a lottery whether a manager is any good or not and if nothing else, because I have absolutely no idea if he'd do well or not, and maybe not, but I think it'd be entertaining due to his personality and his love of the club then I want Michael Hefele.
He would not let any of these lot give less than 100%, and about an hour ago it seemed absolutely ridiculous to me but I've talked myself round.
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Post by kayeb222 on May 10, 2024 23:08:15 GMT 1
Be nice to go 43 regular season matches without defeat though. Be nice to go 43 games with the same manager in charge! |
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Post by cuz on May 10, 2024 23:09:15 GMT 1
Be nice to go 43 regular season matches without defeat though. Be nice to go 43 games with the same manager in charge! Be nice to go a game unbeaten. |
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Post by kayeb222 on May 10, 2024 23:10:41 GMT 1
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Post by terrier86 on May 10, 2024 23:13:33 GMT 1
Last year I shortlisted the now Leicester manager...if only they had listened! 🫣🤣
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on May 10, 2024 23:16:16 GMT 1
Here we go again!!! This is getting a bit tiring now isn't it? I just fear we are now getting a reputation in the game. But saying that, would that put managers off? After all Watford seem to get manager after manager. I mean they would come knowing the 7 managers in 2 years form. But, they still get a decent pay off if sacked. So would it really put somebody off? When it comes to the new man, it get me thinking. Where do we go from here. Now the names I'm going to put are mostly for examples and not some that I think we'd be able to attract. But thinking about the routes we may go down: 1 - The manager seeking a reputation re build. Somebody who has been at a big club but has been out of work for a while. Somebody who needs to try build their reputation back. Somebody like Ole Gunnar Solkskjaer. Whilst I doubt he'd drop down to this level, is this a route to go down? Try show some ambition. It sort of happened with Mark Hughes and Bradford. Didnt work out, but the idea is there. 2 - The american connection. With Kev maybe wanting to put an american spin on it. Maybe he is sick of the choices that have been made so wants to influence this a bit. Jurgen Klinsman. Again, former USA manager, so will be known to the America fraternity at the club. Of failing that, is there anybody in the MLS who they think they could tempt? On a purely comedy note, imagine appointing Klinsman and he brings in Fotheringham in some capacity like he did with South Korea... 3 - The assistant manager wanting to strike out on his own. So purely for the fact I keep seeing this on twitter. Keep seeing posts calling for Pepijn Lijinders. This was a slim to none chance in the championship, so its laughable to even suggest him now. But what about others in a similar position. It has worked out well for Leicester taking on Man City's assistant. 4 - The no nonsense approach. Again, keep seeing this on twitter - Roy Keane. Do we go down the route of a takes no prisoner approach to weed out the pricks at the club who have got away with it too often now? I just want to stress again, I'm not seriously suggested somebody like Ole is going to come to League One Town. Just more the types of managers. Whilst I'm realistic, I do think we need to be ambitious and think the next appointment should be a bigger name than what would normally get in League One. I think we need to suck up the financial costs and push the boat out and think long term. No good getting a league one manager to get us out of it but then doesnt cut it in the Championship. Does anybody have any thoughts on this and a realistic appointment for the categories? Not a cat in hell’s chance any of those would come to town. I think someone of Lijinders (or Bellamy), McKenna before Ipswich type profile would be my choice, but probably a bit too much of a risk. We can’t afford another failed managerial appointment. Are there any good lower league candidates? Success with a couple of different clubs? |
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Post by deo1 on May 10, 2024 23:16:36 GMT 1
1st choice for me Nigel Pearson followed by Liam Rosenior. Whoever is coming in should be appointed in the next week so the club can hit the ground running. Also get Clem back as GK coach.
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Post by kayeb222 on May 10, 2024 23:21:55 GMT 1
Last year I shortlisted the now Leicester manager...if only they had listened! 🫣🤣 Last year someone recommended shaving my pubes off. If only I'd listened sooner! 🤣 |
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Post by scutcher on May 10, 2024 23:27:02 GMT 1
In Nagles statement he said we’re looking for a manager dedicated to our ideals and vision. Does anyone have any idea what our ideals and vision is? Genuinely haven't got a clue what we’re looking for. What style of football do we want to play? It seems like we’ve dusted off Lee Clark’s bingo machine and are now using it to choose managers. The folk in charge don’t seem to have any clue what they’re looking for. Thought Andre fitted our ideals and vision! |
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Post by terrier86 on May 10, 2024 23:29:13 GMT 1
Last year I shortlisted the now Leicester manager...if only they had listened! 🫣🤣 Last year someone recommended shaving my pubes off. If only I'd listened sooner! 🤣 Only a fool would have kept them! The search for a manager isn't hard if you aren't lazy. Research the background, research the philosophy, ensure they have hunger....interview those shortlisted. On interview if you can't read the bullshitters from the real deal then you don't deserve a job. |
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Post by savilerowtownfan on May 10, 2024 23:57:58 GMT 1
It’s a poisoned chalice, and one AB wanted no more to drink from. Frankly I don’t blame him. A good track record blighted. Getting rid of the dead wood through the close Season is going to be crazily expensive with few contracts expiring this summer. My guess is KN couldn’t offer him the clear out of players and reinvestment we so badly need. Corberan performed miracles since when our lack of quality has been so blatantly evident, manager after manager. We are a mid third tier squad at best. Not an attractive proposition for a progressive coach. I believe most fans recognise that. Without massive change and reinvestment from the top downwards,next season will be rinse and repeat. However unexciting, I do think another stop gap manager ( a la Warnock) on a 12 month contract to see us through next season is the only answer with a massive clear out in 2025 when a majority of contracts are ending. Only then should Nagle implement his long term vision and planning. Sadly with the current core of players remaining, bringing in someone like Rosenior at this stage risks killing his career. Stabilise next season invest in our scouting/ recruitment and then have a clear progressive vision for 2025 onwards.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on May 11, 2024 0:05:41 GMT 1
Sod the stopgap appointments. This is a huge chance to shift the whole culture of the club. We need to dominate games next season to get up, time to crack open the checkbook and give the next guy a squad that can take care of business.
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