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Post by Fish & Chips on May 12, 2024 17:14:51 GMT 1
They've only been to Portsmouth since they left us. Now with Colchester since January this year and kept them up. And they didn't leave us in a disastrous state, unlike several others. They failed at Portsmouth, and at Colchester they were 22nd when he arrived, and 22nd when he finished, however almost ended up getting relegated near the end. They stopped a crap team from being relegated. Conveniently, you've totally ignored the rest of their record. Objective, aren't you?
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2024 17:17:42 GMT 1
They failed at Portsmouth, and at Colchester they were 22nd when he arrived, and 22nd when he finished, however almost ended up getting relegated near the end. They stopped a crap team from being relegated. Conveniently, you've totally ignored the rest of their record. Objective, aren't you?
What are you on about? All I'm talking about is their recent record since they left Town, which hasn't been good. Why do I need to talk about their promotions with Concord Rangers that happened 15 years ago?? |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 12, 2024 17:26:52 GMT 1
They stopped a crap team from being relegated. Conveniently, you've totally ignored the rest of their record. Objective, aren't you?
What are you on about? All I'm talking about is their recent record since they left Town, which hasn't been good. Why do I need to talk about their promotions with Concord Rangers that happened 15 years ago?? What are YOU on about ?
"...Cowley joined Lincoln City on 13 May 2016. During Cowley's first season in charge of Lincoln, he oversaw the club's promotion back to the Football League – doing so by winning the National League title with two games to spare.
In the same season Lincoln became the first non-league club to reach the quarter-final of the FA Cup in over a century, knocking out Championship sides Ipswich Town and Brighton & Hove Albion, followed by Premier League side Burnley, in the process.
On 8 April 2018, he led his team to the EFL Trophy final against Shrewsbury Town at Wembley Stadium which they won 1–0. It was Lincoln's first ever game at Wembley.
In Lincoln's first season back in the league (2017–18) they finished the season seventh in League Two qualifying for the play-offs.
The following season 2018-19, Cowley guided Lincoln to promotion to League One, returning to the third tier of English football for the first time since 1999, leading Lincoln as champions...."
Seriously clueless, aren't you? I'd suggest you might want to stop embarrasing yourself further...but I know you won't 
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2024 19:17:36 GMT 1
What are you on about? All I'm talking about is their recent record since they left Town, which hasn't been good. Why do I need to talk about their promotions with Concord Rangers that happened 15 years ago?? What are YOU on about ?
"...Cowley joined Lincoln City on 13 May 2016. During Cowley's first season in charge of Lincoln, he oversaw the club's promotion back to the Football League – doing so by winning the National League title with two games to spare.
In the same season Lincoln became the first non-league club to reach the quarter-final of the FA Cup in over a century, knocking out Championship sides Ipswich Town and Brighton & Hove Albion, followed by Premier League side Burnley, in the process.
On 8 April 2018, he led his team to the EFL Trophy final against Shrewsbury Town at Wembley Stadium which they won 1–0. It was Lincoln's first ever game at Wembley.
In Lincoln's first season back in the league (2017–18) they finished the season seventh in League Two qualifying for the play-offs.
The following season 2018-19, Cowley guided Lincoln to promotion to League One, returning to the third tier of English football for the first time since 1999, leading Lincoln as champions...."
Seriously clueless, aren't you? I'd suggest you might want to stop embarrasing yourself further...but I know you won't
Seriously clueless? A couple of weeks ago I saw you blaming Warnock for the whole season, saying he was the root of relegation 'Thanks Neil, for: - Not playing Rhodes when he was with us, then passing him off to Blackpool where he scored a bundle. - Renewing Ward's contract for 2 years. - Not keeping Hungbo. - Letting the lads play Sunday League teams this summer and spend too much time on the golf course, ensuring we were not be fit enough for a challenging season. - Criticising the guvnor, leading to all manner of subsequent upheaval and subsequent relegation. "Thanks" again, Neil.' . A week later a new manager thread appears after AB walks and you say that your first choice of manager is Warnock, with the Cowleys being your back up plan. You also called me a totalitarian for tongue-in-cheek suggesting that Castlehillterrier should be banned, when a few months ago you were saying the exact same. I have no desires to get into an argument with somebody I will never have a face to face interaction with on a forum where we all (hopefully!) support the same club, but either you're a WUM, or you're the one that's clueless. |
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Post by rockwall on May 12, 2024 19:17:43 GMT 1
Crawley manager must be worth a shout Why on Earth would he join our PoS and leave a club rapidly on the up, serving and under-served part of the country ?
There's no PL club between Palace and Brighton, whereas there's lots of money and opportunity in that part of the world, right next door to Gatwick airport, with a lot of well-paid airline and airport workers live in the Crawley area, plus those earning big bucks who commute to London. Crawley will get more investment and will be in the Championship in a season or two.
In comparison, we've got a clueless Yank in charge who's employed two clueless, arguably incompetent, right Herberts. He'd be daft to come here.
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Post by rockwall on May 12, 2024 19:22:43 GMT 1
They failed at Portsmouth, and at Colchester they were 22nd when he arrived, and 22nd when he finished, however almost ended up getting relegated near the end. They stopped a crap team from being relegated. Conveniently, you've totally ignored the rest of their record. Objective, aren't you?
The Cowleys were shite. People bang in about them keeping us up. Turn of New Yesr we were 8 points above the bottom 3. By game 44 we were 2 points above it. The squad they had with ESR, Chalobaj, Grant etc should have been a safe mid table squad. Their antics on the sideline were embarrassing too. |
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Post by htafcokay on May 12, 2024 19:26:22 GMT 1
They stopped a crap team from being relegated. Conveniently, you've totally ignored the rest of their record. Objective, aren't you?
The Cowleys were shite. People bang in about them keeping us up. Turn of New Yesr we were 8 points above the bottom 3. By game 44 we were 2 points above it. The squad they had with ESR, Chalobaj, Grant etc should have been a safe mid table squad. Their antics on the sideline were embarrassing too. When Cowley arrived, we were four points adrift. Hardly Great Escape-esque, was it? |
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Post by rockwall on May 12, 2024 19:29:26 GMT 1
The Cowleys were shite. People bang in about them keeping us up. Turn of New Yesr we were 8 points above the bottom 3. By game 44 we were 2 points above it. The squad they had with ESR, Chalobaj, Grant etc should have been a safe mid table squad. Their antics on the sideline were embarrassing too. When Cowley arrived, we were four points adrift. Hardly Great Escape-esque, was it? Exactly. It's so frustrating when people claim that they 'kept us up'. Yes they kept us up, but we shouldn't have been in amy danger of going down! |
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Post by htafcokay on May 12, 2024 19:32:00 GMT 1
When Cowley arrived, we were four points adrift. Hardly Great Escape-esque, was it? Exactly. It's so frustrating when people claim that they 'kept us up'. Yes they kept us up, but we shouldn't have been in amy danger of going down! I remember reading at the time that it was "a miracle". I couldn't stop laughing, to be honest. Cowley was a chancer, talked in riddles, his football was insulting and one of the only good things Phil Hodgkinson did was sack him and his brother. |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 12, 2024 19:35:51 GMT 1
The Cowleys were shite. People bang in about them keeping us up. Turn of New Yesr we were 8 points above the bottom 3. By game 44 we were 2 points above it. The squad they had with ESR, Chalobaj, Grant etc should have been a safe mid table squad. Their antics on the sideline were embarrassing too. When Cowley arrived, we were four points adrift. Hardly Great Escape-esque, was it? We survived, that's all that matters ultimately.
The squad was generally a bunch of outcasts that nobody else really wanted, yet we paid a fortune for them.
AS for ESR, he was young and lightweight and injury-prone, but showed great potential, and we only got him because of Cowley's connections with Arsenal. His spell at Town under the Cowleys helped him mature and improve greatly.
As for Chalobah, he was still cutting his teeth and the experience helped make him the excellent player he is today, thanks to the Cowleys.
As for Grant, hilarious, he ignored Cowley, and Carlos, and now he's fecked off into insignificance, total waste that one, he had great potential, but too thick between his ears.
You and the newish account htafc1045 should get together, you've got a great deal to share with each other on many posts of mine. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if "he" is you, liking each other's comments LOL. If I'm right, you're a very sad case, you muppet.
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Post by htafcokay on May 12, 2024 19:41:54 GMT 1
When Cowley arrived, we were four points adrift. Hardly Great Escape-esque, was it? We survived, that's all that matters ultimately.
The squad was generally a bunch of outcasts that nobody else really wanted, yet we paid a fortune for them.
AS for ESR, he was young and lightweight and injury-prone, but showed great potential, and we only got him because of Cowley's connections with Arsenal. His spell at Town under the Cowleys helped him mature and improve greatly.
As for Chalobah, he was still cutting his teeth and the experience helped make him the excellent player he is today, thanks to the Cowleys.
As for Grant, hilarious, he ignored Cowley, and Carlos, and now he's fecked off into insignificance, total waste that one, he had great potential, but too thick between his ears.
You and the newish account htafc1045 should get together, you've got a great deal to share with each other on many posts of mine. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if "he" is you, liking each other's comments LOL. If I'm right, you're a very sad case, you muppet. Yeah, because that is a completely rational theory, isn't it? And you have the audacity to accuse me of being narcissistic Get over yourself. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2024 19:45:57 GMT 1
When Cowley arrived, we were four points adrift. Hardly Great Escape-esque, was it? We survived, that's all that matters ultimately.
The squad was generally a bunch of outcasts that nobody else really wanted, yet we paid a fortune for them.
AS for ESR, he was young and lightweight and injury-prone, but showed great potential, and we only got him because of Cowley's connections with Arsenal. His spell at Town under the Cowleys helped him mature and improve greatly.
As for Chalobah, he was still cutting his teeth and the experience helped make him the excellent player he is today, thanks to the Cowleys.
As for Grant, hilarious, he ignored Cowley, and Carlos, and now he's fecked off into insignificance, total waste that one, he had great potential, but too thick between his ears.
You and the newish account htafc1045 should get together, you've got a great deal to share with each other on many posts of mine. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if "he" is you, liking each other's comments LOL. If I'm right, you're a very sad case, you muppet.
Never met htafcokay in my life. All I know about him is that he does interviews for the club, hates Corberan and knows pretty much everything there is to know about Town. I live in Sussex, I am a huge admirer of Corberan and think he is an excellent manager, and I am sure that I don't know as much about Town as him! So please stop calling me clueless and a muppet this is a football forum to share opinions and we just happened to have a contrasting one, now I am getting told that I am a backup account run by someone else who I have never met. Hope you have a great summer and our new manager (that hopefully isn't Danny Cowley!) can lead us to the League on title next year. UTT |
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Post by Randy Watson on May 12, 2024 20:02:03 GMT 1
Crawley manager must be worth a shout Why on Earth would he join our PoS and leave a club rapidly on the up, serving and under-served part of the country ? There's no PL club between Palace and Brighton, whereas there's lots of money and opportunity in that part of the world, right next door to Gatwick airport, with a lot of well-paid airline and airport workers live in the Crawley area, plus those earning big bucks who commute to London. Crawley will get more investment and will be in the Championship in a season or two. In comparison, we've got a clueless Yank in charge who's employed two clueless, arguably incompetent, right Herberts. He'd be daft to come here.
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Post by Macduff on May 12, 2024 20:02:49 GMT 1
Where abouts in Sussex are you 1045? I'm in Worthing.
Anyway, according to the YP on the web, favourites are Neil Lennon (!!!), Wild and Challinor. I don't know enough about the second two, but no thanks to the first one.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 12, 2024 20:08:26 GMT 1
Where abouts in Sussex are you 1045? I'm in Worthing. Anyway, according to the YP on the web, favourites are Neil Lennon (!!!), Wild and Challinor. I don't know enough about the second two, but no thanks to the first one. UTT That makes at least two Town fans in Worthing then. Bob Pepper lives there now and watches the local team. |
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Post by billy143 on May 12, 2024 20:39:10 GMT 1
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Post by Tinpot on May 12, 2024 20:41:33 GMT 1
Why on Earth would he join our PoS and leave a club rapidly on the up, serving and under-served part of the country ? There's no PL club between Palace and Brighton, whereas there's lots of money and opportunity in that part of the world, right next door to Gatwick airport, with a lot of well-paid airline and airport workers live in the Crawley area, plus those earning big bucks who commute to London. Crawley will get more investment and will be in the Championship in a season or two. In comparison, we've got a clueless Yank in charge who's employed two clueless, arguably incompetent, right Herberts. He'd be daft to come here.
Let me get this right. You say Crawley are a better proposition than Town? One thing we'll have going for us next season is that we'll be one of the higher profile sides in that division. That means we're there to be shot at, but also that we should find it easier than lower profile clubs at the same level. If he left Crawley for us he'd leave there a hero, regardless of whether they achieve promotion. A new challenge at a higher profile club would have obvious appeal. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 12, 2024 21:01:10 GMT 1
Had to look him up. Not sure what qualifies him TBH. The Indian league isn't one I'm terribly familiar with, but I'm not aware of it being particularly high standard. |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 12, 2024 21:21:47 GMT 1
Why on Earth would he join our PoS and leave a club rapidly on the up, serving and under-served part of the country ? There's no PL club between Palace and Brighton, whereas there's lots of money and opportunity in that part of the world, right next door to Gatwick airport, with a lot of well-paid airline and airport workers live in the Crawley area, plus those earning big bucks who commute to London. Crawley will get more investment and will be in the Championship in a season or two. In comparison, we've got a clueless Yank in charge who's employed two clueless, arguably incompetent, right Herberts. He'd be daft to come here.
Let me get this right. You say Crawley are a better proposition than Town? Over the longer term, yes, almost definitely, in my opinion. If I was an investor, given a choice of investing TODAY, in either Huddersfield or Crawley, I’d choose Crawley and expect to see my investment multiply several times over the next 5 years. Conversely, a similar investment into my club Huddersfield is more likely to lose me money, under the present ownership and management. Four managers in a season and ending in relegation, it’s a total shambles. I have little, if any, confidence in the current senior management team. That’s my opinion. I hope I’m wrong, but I wouldn’t invest a penny into this club today. |
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Post by htfcterry on May 12, 2024 21:21:56 GMT 1
Had to look him up. Not sure what qualifies him TBH. The Indian league isn't one I'm terribly familiar with, but I'm not aware of it being particularly high standard. Wouldn't entertain this guy looking at his posting history |
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Post by dalesterrier on May 12, 2024 21:25:44 GMT 1
Had to look him up. Not sure what qualifies him TBH. The Indian league isn't one I'm terribly familiar with, but I'm not aware of it being particularly high standard. Signed a new contract with Mumbai a couple of days ago |
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Post by Tinpot on May 12, 2024 21:27:34 GMT 1
Had to look him up. Not sure what qualifies him TBH. The Indian league isn't one I'm terribly familiar with, but I'm not aware of it being particularly high standard. Signed a new contract with Mumbai a couple of days ago Well, that's our promotion hopes fucked then! |
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Post by runner76 on May 12, 2024 21:28:03 GMT 1
Let me get this right. You say Crawley are a better proposition than Town? Over the longer term, yes, almost definitely, in my opinion. If I was an investor, given a choice of investing TODAY, in either Huddersfield or Crawley, I’d choose Crawley and expect to see my investment multiply several times over the next 5 years. Conversely, a similar investment into my club Huddersfield is more likely to lose me money, under the present ownership and management. Four managers in a season and ending in relegation, it’s a total shambles. That’s my opinion. I’ll have some of what you’re drinking |
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Post by specialun on May 12, 2024 21:33:13 GMT 1
Short memories
Cowley’s took over a shambles with 1 win in 9 months, 39 games?
We had 1 draw in 7 games? We lost to a league one team (theirs) in the cup?
They turned that shambles into a mid table record with 13 wins, 16 defeats?
They paid for 1 player permanently - Toffolo. One of the best transfers we’ve made in last decade
It wasn’t great to watch and we didn’t kick on as we hoped post January
But they did the job they were asked
Are they the answer now? No - what’s three obsession with looking back?
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 12, 2024 21:33:25 GMT 1
Let me get this right. You say Crawley are a better proposition than Town? Over the longer term, yes, almost definitely, in my opinion. If I was an investor, given a choice of investing TODAY, in either Huddersfield or Crawley, I’d choose Crawley and expect to see my investment multiply several times over the next 5-10 years. Conversely, a similar investment into my club Huddersfield is more likely to lose me money, under the present ownership and management. That’s my opinion. Laughable, and I’m saying that as someone that watches Crawley several times a season. Yes, they’re on a high right now and have a great chance of making L1, but I’d say that would be their ceiling. They’ve often struggled to get crowds of 2k, their record EVER crowd in the league was only a few weeks ago at home to Doncaster about 5,700, and that was largely because they had a special deal of “2 games for £2”. The east stand is actually a temporary seated stand with a canvas roof, built over a tiny open terrace. |
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Post by softboy on May 12, 2024 21:37:58 GMT 1
Crawley a better investment than Town? I heard it all now. However their ground has been 100% full on at least 1 occasion this season whereas ours hasn’t so perhaps you are right.
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 12, 2024 21:44:30 GMT 1
Over the longer term, yes, almost definitely, in my opinion. If I was an investor, given a choice of investing TODAY, in either Huddersfield or Crawley, I’d choose Crawley and expect to see my investment multiply several times over the next 5-10 years. Conversely, a similar investment into my club Huddersfield is more likely to lose me money, under the present ownership and management. That’s my opinion. Laughable, and I’m saying that as someone that watches Crawley several times a season. Yes, they’re on a high right now and have a great chance of making L1, but I’d say that would be their ceiling. They’ve often struggled to get crowds of 2k, their record EVER crowd in the league was only a few weeks ago at home to Doncaster about 5,700, and that was largely because they had a special deal of “2 games for £2”. The east stand is actually a temporary seated stand with a canvas roof, built over a tiny open terrace. OK then, let’s keep this very simple. If Crawley get promoted and perform well, their average gate could increase from 2k to 4k and revenue with it. Costs aside for this comparison, but how will Town deliver me, as a potential investor, a 100% increase in revenue over the next couple of seasons? We are a money pit, as Hoyle discovered and Nagle will be seeing already. Raise the very low ST prices and there will be riots outside the stadium. So many financial limitations with Town, unlike Crawley, I’m sad to think that Nagle will give it only another season or two then we’re possibly going to be in really deep sheet. |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 12, 2024 21:48:21 GMT 1
Crawley a better investment than Town? I heard it all now. However their ground has been 100% full on at least 1 occasion this season whereas ours hasn’t so perhaps you are right. If I put a million into each club, I can already predict with reasonable confidence as to which one will return me the highest percentage growth over, say, the next 3 years. |
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Post by rockwall on May 12, 2024 21:55:00 GMT 1
Crawley a better investment than Town? I heard it all now. However their ground has been 100% full on at least 1 occasion this season whereas ours hasn’t so perhaps you are right. If I put a million into each club, I can already predict with reasonable confidence as to which one will return me the highest percentage growth over, say, the next 3 years. You are really making yourself out to be the village idiot tonight. You are talking pure bollocks. You cannot even compare the two. They have different financial obstacles. One club has 15k more fans turning up. Can't even compare the costs of day to day running. For you're theory to work, you would need similar sized clubs. Its like saying that investing 1M in town would be better than 1M in Man City. |
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Post by dalesterrier on May 12, 2024 22:01:01 GMT 1
Getting back to the new manager, don't know if it's relevant but on Bet Victor there are a number of up and coming coaches on the betting list....
Justin Cochrane Brentford
Brian Barry Murphy Man City
Andrew Crofts Brighton
Anthony Barry Bayern Munich
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