ldotm
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Post by ldotm on May 6, 2024 8:30:25 GMT 1
retired a year ago mate, his knees are shot. yes, but with shot knees he would still give us something extra ? The blokes retired, he’s not coming back to play in a League 1 side. |
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Yuta be a terrier
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on May 6, 2024 8:39:17 GMT 1
Apologies if I've missed it but will there be a video diary or statement?
I see Birminghams CEO and captain both made statements apologising to fans and acknowledging their mistakes within hours of the final whistle on Saturday.
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Post by jimhtfc on May 6, 2024 8:47:31 GMT 1
Apologies if I've missed it but will there be a video diary or statement? I see Birminghams CEO and captain both made statements apologising to fans and acknowledging their mistakes within hours of the final whistle on Saturday. i'm guessing he's waiting for andre's decision as that will affect the message either way. |
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Post by htafcdreams on May 6, 2024 8:56:46 GMT 1
Point someone else raised.
Getting the structure correct at the club.
Clear to see Edward’s / Cartwright have overseen very poor decision making during this season and we sit with a toxic squad, a manager wanting to cover this own backside in the media and massive rebuild in the summer.
Do we have a frantic approach Kev ?
I love the enthusiasm and energy. However interviews seem to cover 12+ topics and how we are trying to progress everything at once..stadium, fan zone, players, manager, youth academy, pub/hotel infrastructure etc etc
In a year we have gone backwards.
Is there benefit in a methodical plan, prioritisation, getting the foundations right, getting the on the field issues sorted first, getting the right staff long term.
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duncfost01
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Post by duncfost01 on May 6, 2024 9:11:23 GMT 1
The question is simple.
Do you still trust Cartwright and Edwards after one of the most shambolic seasons in the clubs history and if so why ?
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Post by shawsie on May 6, 2024 9:17:34 GMT 1
Point someone else raised. Getting the structure correct at the club. Clear to see Edward’s / Cartwright have overseen very poor decision making during this season and we sit with a toxic squad, a manager wanting to cover this own backside in the media and massive rebuild in the summer. Do we have a frantic approach Kev ? I love the enthusiasm and energy. However interviews seem to cover 12+ topics and how we are trying to progress everything at once..stadium, fan zone, players, manager, youth academy, pub/hotel infrastructure etc etc In a year we have gone backwards. Is there benefit in a methodical plan, prioritisation, getting the foundations right, getting the on the field issues sorted first, getting the right staff long term. He inherited a mess on and off the pitch. Think rather than trying to sort everything there needs to be a focus on the reason it exists - playing football. Fans want to watch a winning team on the field - the rest can follow along after. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 6, 2024 9:21:09 GMT 1
Apologies if I've missed it but will there be a video diary or statement? I see Birminghams CEO and captain both made statements apologising to fans and acknowledging their mistakes within hours of the final whistle on Saturday. Video diary apparently. We were 99.9999% relegated 9 days ago so no idea why the delay? He's had plenty to say all season but now he's struggling to find time to face the music and answer the difficult questions regarding his naivety and failures this season? Also, you'd think Cartwright and Edwards would put some kind of statement out seen as they're the ones who have been involved in the day to day running of the club, but nothing from them either? They're probably on a beach somewhere burying their heads in the sand. |
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Post by CurlyWurly on May 6, 2024 9:44:04 GMT 1
The question is simple. Do you still trust Cartwright and Edwards after one of the most shambolic seasons in the clubs history and if so why ? If you came in to Emmerdale and all the actors were mute and ITV told you sorry Dunc, we want a full speaking script but we're only giving you two new actors, would your show be any good? |
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Post by htafcdreams on May 6, 2024 10:27:37 GMT 1
Assume video diary is awaiting ABs future confirmed and then aspirations can be rolled out to fans.
A real valuable point would go down well, would be lessons learnt summarised this season to demonstrate progression in decision making and strategy from Kev in the new world of English football.
The old cliches, no stone unturned, work starts now, we take on the challenge, we won’t sleep walk in this situation, eyes firmly open blah blah blah is just unfortunately noise even if the heart is in the right place.
I hope the video can he more to the bone in thoughts and has depth within in
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Post by Wingman on May 6, 2024 10:33:36 GMT 1
Apologies if I've missed it but will there be a video diary or statement? I see Birminghams CEO and captain both made statements apologising to fans and acknowledging their mistakes within hours of the final whistle on Saturday. I’d like to see Edwards and Cartwright say something about this season and how it will be put right. It’s too easy for them to hide behind Nagle and his video’s, so whilst it admirable Kevin does the diaries, the two aforementioned individuals are the day to day ‘boots on the ground’ and eyes around the place so should be taking some bullets right now. They are the ones employed to make sure we are successful, they’ve failed and need to explain why. |
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Post by htafcdreams on May 6, 2024 10:48:35 GMT 1
Apologies if I've missed it but will there be a video diary or statement? I see Birminghams CEO and captain both made statements apologising to fans and acknowledging their mistakes within hours of the final whistle on Saturday. I’d like to see Edwards and Cartwright say something about this season and how it will be put right. It’s too easy for them to hide behind Nagle and his video’s, so whilst it admirable Kevin does the diaries, the two aforementioned individuals are the day to day ‘boots on the ground’ and eyes around the place so should be taking some bullets right now. They are the ones employed to make sure we are successful, they’ve failed and need to explain why. I don’t think we can expect anything from them two except eloquent excuses, bullet dodging and complements to pay masters to try and hold down their jobs. Prefer just to see them disappear tbh. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 6, 2024 10:50:08 GMT 1
Apologies if I've missed it but will there be a video diary or statement? I see Birminghams CEO and captain both made statements apologising to fans and acknowledging their mistakes within hours of the final whistle on Saturday. I’d like to see Edwards and Cartwright say something about this season and how it will be put right. It’s too easy for them to hide behind Nagle and his video’s, so whilst it admirable Kevin does the diaries, the two aforementioned individuals are the day to day ‘boots on the ground’ and eyes around the place so should be taking some bullets right now. They are the ones employed to make sure we are successful, they’ve failed and need to explain why. I’d not expect to hear from them until we’ve heard from KN, which I think is promised “soon”. |
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Post by runner76 on May 6, 2024 10:51:26 GMT 1
Expand on this please. What more would you like to see that would make it a “go to” website for you!? My suggestion would be have the interviews typed out so we can read them. Used to happen up until a few years ago then it became just a link to a video. The Examiner then used to type them up but that stopped when they got rid of Chicken, so now there is nowhere to read the pre and post match interviews, that I'm aware of. Case in point with the shite website. We’ve been relegated but no real information on there, communication from management, nothing really. |
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Post by goodbet on May 6, 2024 11:15:45 GMT 1
Apologies if I've missed it but will there be a video diary or statement? I see Birminghams CEO and captain both made statements apologising to fans and acknowledging their mistakes within hours of the final whistle on Saturday. If we do get an apology it will just appear to be an afterthought now, i.e. Birmingham did it perhaps we should think about putting one out. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on May 6, 2024 11:19:47 GMT 1
Apologies if I've missed it but will there be a video diary or statement? I see Birminghams CEO and captain both made statements apologising to fans and acknowledging their mistakes within hours of the final whistle on Saturday. If we do get an apology it will just appear to be an afterthought now, i.e. Birmingham did it perhaps we should think about putting one out. Yeah I have to agree. Especially as we've had a week's head start on Brum to put out such a statement... |
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Post by ritchie on May 6, 2024 12:02:52 GMT 1
There absolutely could/should have been a statement by now, it didnt need AB future decided and could have just been your stabdard stuff with a video to follow
Have they all got the bank holiday off?
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Post by Floyds on May 6, 2024 12:04:40 GMT 1
There absolutely could/should have been a statement by now, it didnt need AB future decided and could have just been your stabdard stuff with a video to follow Have they all got the bank holiday off? They’ll probably have the early summer off then rock back up on 1st July and start thinking about the new season then 😂👌 |
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Post by lifer49 on May 6, 2024 12:13:39 GMT 1
This season has not gone well (understatement but polite) so my main questions are
1 Are you still here for the long term
2 Quote from June 23 by Jake
“Although the Sporting Director role is a varied one, player recruitment and contract management are vital components of that, and Mark has a huge global network of contacts in the game that he can call upon.
“However, Mark’s skills at developing staff and creating an elite culture at the training ground will be hugely important in his other responsibilities, such as ensuring we have strong player pathways from the Academy, and in managing other areas such as medical, sports science and analysis.
Given the recents comments by our manager, do you still have confidence in your senior team?
3 How are going to change us from losers back in to terriers.
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Post by detox on May 6, 2024 12:20:16 GMT 1
My concern is how quickly KN seemed to consider AB as suitable. I know he's under contract,but does KN still think AB is our best option?
The fact AB has gone away to 'think about it' would rile me instantly. It says he's not 100% ,in fact he might have the same commitment the players have had, 50%.
Surely the new start means everybody has to be 100% with it from day one.
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Post by Wingman on May 6, 2024 12:40:21 GMT 1
One question I would ask is if the toxic culture has been ingrained for so long, why haven’t Edwards and Cartwright seen this, asked the coaches views and rooted it out? We’ve had three coaches/managers since Warnock left and none have really grasped the nettle.
If Cartwright is the Sporting Director he’s meant to be, surely he should have been laying down the law to these overpaid, half arsed excuses for professional footballers.
Too late now to stop the drop but not too late to root out the weeds and start sowing again. Andre has said what’s what, are the club too spineless to let him crack on? He’s a proven winner - we are crying out for this at the club - so do his dirty work, move the shit on and let him get on with remoulding this team into one that we can be proud of.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 6, 2024 12:55:13 GMT 1
This season has not gone well (understatement but polite) so my main questions are 1 Are you still here for the long term 2 Quote from June 23 by Jake “Although the Sporting Director role is a varied one, player recruitment and contract management are vital components of that, and Mark has a huge global network of contacts in the game that he can call upon. “However, Mark’s skills at developing staff and creating an elite culture at the training ground will be hugely important in his other responsibilities, such as ensuring we have strong player pathways from the Academy, and in managing other areas such as medical, sports science and analysis. Given the recents comments by our manager, do you still have confidence in your senior team? 3 How are going to change us from losers back in to terriers. You would at the very least have to question the “creating an elite culture “ part. If things are as bad as we are being lead to believe, how can the person in charge not have noticed it and corrected it? |
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Post by royrace on May 6, 2024 12:57:13 GMT 1
This season has not gone well (understatement but polite) so my main questions are 1 Are you still here for the long term 2 Quote from June 23 by Jake “Although the Sporting Director role is a varied one, player recruitment and contract management are vital components of that, and Mark has a huge global network of contacts in the game that he can call upon. “However, Mark’s skills at developing staff and creating an elite culture at the training ground will be hugely important in his other responsibilities, such as ensuring we have strong player pathways from the Academy, and in managing other areas such as medical, sports science and analysis. Given the recents comments by our manager, do you still have confidence in your senior team? 3 How are going to change us from losers back in to terriers. You would at the very least have to question the “creating an elite culture “ part. If things are as bad as we are being lead to believe, how can the person in charge not have noticed it and corrected it? Just one aspect in which he has failed in, there are many and all key areas. I honestly can't see how his position is tenable at all. KN has had plenty of time to plan for this eventuality. The silence is deafening. |
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on May 6, 2024 13:29:50 GMT 1
A minor irrelevance in the grand scheme, but is it worth having our own TV channel, at least on match days? Ipswich, Brum and Brizzle have them. Not saying would be a good thing myself, but maybe I'm in a minority
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Post by ronaldinio on May 6, 2024 13:40:50 GMT 1
Of course all town fans needing to know anything should head straight to the town website, the font of all knowledge and any town fans first port of call to be “in the know” unless that is you are looking for anything recent 🙄
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 6, 2024 13:50:28 GMT 1
You get a season and I guess even if the end result is relegation there have to be some signs of progress coming through for the future direction and success at the club??? If it ends in fairly humiliating  , in fighting and some highly embarrassing public statements, then there isnt anything shining through so the management and the players identified as being prejudicial, for all sorts of reasons, to moving on and improving the performances etc, have to, as far as is possible, moved on. You have the money Kev, so the decisions are yours, to be carried out and carried forward by new staff, with a clean slate. |
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Post by boooothy on May 6, 2024 14:02:05 GMT 1
Arrrhh bollocks how depressing. Can we have some good news before season tickets go on sale.
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Post by waggers on May 6, 2024 14:11:26 GMT 1
You would at the very least have to question the “creating an elite culture “ part. If things are as bad as we are being lead to believe, how can the person in charge not have noticed it and corrected it? Just one aspect in which he has failed in, there are many and all key areas. I honestly can't see how his position is tenable at all. KN has had plenty of time to plan for this eventuality. The silence is deafening. I believe they're weighing up the fans reaction to relegation. I honestly don't think Kev cares if we're in L1 or the Championship. It's a cheaper club to own in League One long term, he was expecting a L1 club when he agreed to buy. It was NW (appointed by someone else) who scuppered that. |
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Post by dalesterrier on May 6, 2024 14:12:09 GMT 1
Of course all town fans needing to know anything should head straight to the town website, the font of all knowledge and any town fans first port of call to be “in the know” unless that is you are looking for anything recent 🙄 Think I read (maybe ATT notes) that the website and app are being upgraded because they're not fit for purpose....which is true! |
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Post by detox on May 6, 2024 14:46:44 GMT 1
I don't recall Warnock, Worthington or Moore talking about a toxic culture?
Perhaps AB created this culture by his superior, aloof ,I'm too good for you behaviour?
Or maybe his predecessors were too diplomatic to speak in public about such things..
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 6, 2024 15:00:04 GMT 1
I don't recall Warnock, Worthington or Moore talking about a toxic culture? Perhaps AB created this culture by his superior, aloof ,I'm too good for you behaviour? Or maybe his predecessors were too diplomatic to speak in public about such things.. That’s a good point. But I’d say that no professional football manager would come out in public to say what Andre said , if it wasn’t true. |
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, in fighting and some highly embarrassing public statements, then there isnt anything shining through so the management and the players identified as being prejudicial, for all sorts of reasons, to moving on and improving the performances etc, have to, as far as is possible, moved on.