Outgoings

[Million Dollar Babies]

So from ABs presser today it sounds like we can expect plenty to leave.

Seen a Derby fan saying they're interested in Wiles. Their manager might think he can get him playing for him like he did at Rotherham. I'm pretty sure Town would let him go for a small fee just to get his wages off the books

[crux]

May 2, 2024 20:59:33 GMT 1 Million Dollar Babies said:

So from ABs presser today it sounds like we can expect plenty to leave.

Seen a Derby fan saying they're interested in Wiles. Their manager might think he can get him playing for him like he did at Rotherham. I'm pretty sure Town would let him go for a small fee just to get his wages off the books

I think they'd want to recover any remaining fee payable to Rotherham (and Wiles) at least.

[Baby Ate My Eight Ball]

Thomas and Diarra will go for sure. Can see Headley possibly going too. Wiles has been a big disappointment so can go for me.

Sounds like Helik will be gone too and I’d imagine Rudoni as well, though we should try and keep him.

Think it’s time to let Hogg go, we need a new start in the middle of the park.

[Million Dollar Babies]

May 2, 2024 21:12:25 GMT 1 crux said:

May 2, 2024 20:59:33 GMT 1 Million Dollar Babies said:

So from ABs presser today it sounds like we can expect plenty to leave.

Seen a Derby fan saying they're interested in Wiles. Their manager might think he can get him playing for him like he did at Rotherham. I'm pretty sure Town would let him go for a small fee just to get his wages off the books

I think they'd want to recover any remaining fee payable to Rotherham (and Wiles) at least.

They might have to get in to the real world

[Tinpot]

May 2, 2024 20:59:33 GMT 1 Million Dollar Babies said:

So from ABs presser today it sounds like we can expect plenty to leave.

Seen a Derby fan saying they're interested in Wiles. Their manager might think he can get him playing for him like he did at Rotherham. I'm pretty sure Town would let him go for a small fee just to get his wages off the books

If we only had to pay Derby a small fee to take him off us I'd be all over that deal.

[terriersyndrome]

The outgoings I can see happening are..

Helik. Championship clubs will already have him earmarked.

Thomas. Bit of a dick but he's a set-piece specialist at Championship level and I'm sure we'll get some bids. His numbers don't lie. 7 goals and 33 assists in 3 seasons.

Spencer. Top prospect. I'll be sad to see him leave but I reckon a top end championship club will snap him up.

Rudoni. He works hard and has technical qualities, if he can brush up in the final 3rd he'd be a top championship player. Someone will no doubt snap him up.

Healey. He is a natural scorer and has good numbers in his limited minutes last season. I reckon a Pompey type will be in for him.

We should be able to get around £10m for those.

Plenty more I'd be moving on, but those are the ones who I think could give us a reasonable transfer kitty next season.

[Million Dollar Babies]

May 2, 2024 22:01:24 GMT 1 terriersyndrome said:

The outgoings I can see happening are..

Helik. Championship clubs will already have him earmarked.

Thomas. Bit of a dick but he's a set-piece specialist at Championship level and I'm sure we'll get some bids. His numbers don't lie. 7 goals and 33 assists in 3 seasons.

Spencer. Top prospect. I'll be sad to see him leave but I reckon a top end championship club will snap him up.

Rudoni. He works hard and has technical qualities, if he can brush up in the final 3rd he'd be a top championship player. Someone will no doubt snap him up.

Healey. He is a natural scorer and has good numbers in his limited minutes last season. I reckon a Pompey type will be in for him.

We should be able to get around £10m for those.

Plenty more I'd be moving on, but those are the ones who I think could give us a reasonable transfer kitty next season.

Spencer has done ok since coming back but massively over hyped on here.

He's definitely not championship quality with the ball at his feet and positionally he has a lot to learn. His pace gets him out of trouble and he makes some great last ditch tackles.

I think it's a massive gamble for anyone to pay good money for him and so I would be surprised to see him leave this summer

[crux]

May 2, 2024 21:56:15 GMT 1 Tinpot said:

May 2, 2024 20:59:33 GMT 1 Million Dollar Babies said:

So from ABs presser today it sounds like we can expect plenty to leave.

Seen a Derby fan saying they're interested in Wiles. Their manager might think he can get him playing for him like he did at Rotherham. I'm pretty sure Town would let him go for a small fee just to get his wages off the books

If we only had to pay Derby a small fee to take him off us I'd be all over that deal.

We'll have to pay Rotherham the remainder of the transfer fee, plus any bonuses due to Wiles if he's not requested a transfer. Assuming we did pay over £1M for him, then we'd be liable for somewhere between £650K and £1M straight away.

[melbourneterrier]

TBF, I think anytime you get relegated, you're expected to have a high number of outgoings. This shouldn't really come as a surprise

[Terriersmad]

The big three who you'd expect to attract significant bids are Helik, Rudoni, and Thomas. Respectively we should be looking for £8m+ for those three combined, perhaps even attempt to squeeze a little more to bump that amount towards £10m.

Then you have the 'might get bids': Nicholls, Spencer. Nicholls should command a decent seven-figure fee, but I would be battling to hold on to Spencer. New contract on the table, big numbers in the cheque. He's our great prospect, and we have to keep him and start to look at building the team around him. He's not just a good footballer, he's a battler with heart and spirit, who has shown more leadership than many at the club. Despite his age (and also possibly because of the lack of other viable options, which is as true as anything) he's not far short of captaincy material.

Out of contract or returning to parent clubs: Nakayama, Edwards, Hogg, Matos, Diarra, Burgzorg, Bellagambi, Mahoney, Rowe, Chapman, Rhodes. I'd only be offering Hogg a deal. In the B team, Adewoju, Maroozda, Ecclestone, Midgley, Stone, and Bright are all out of contract. I'm not in the best place to judge, but the only circumstances we should be offering new contracts to any of those are if they can step into the first team. We should certainly be trimming down those players. Those out on loan I'm not sure about.

Then there should be the group who are told - quietly, not publicly - that they should be looking for another club and that we will do all we can to help them. These aren't players we should be hanging out to dry, but players who haven't quite been good enough, who might have had a damn good go but aren't at the standard we want. Five names spring to mind: Hudlin, Simpson, Jackson, Harratt and High. As the squad is moulded, other players could be on that list: Ruffels and Ward being the first two names who leap to mind.

That's potentially a lot of movement. If we were to shed all of those players (with exceptions of Nicholls and Spencer), we'd be losing at least 26 players. Our squad would be:

Nicholls, Maxwell
Pearson, Headley, Spencer, Turton, Balker, (Lees - injured long-term by the sounds of it)
Hogg, Kasumu, Wiles, Austerfield
Koroma, Jones
Radulovic, Healey

Lots of room there from that base to build a good side. Even if it is bare bones, with a couple of obvious deficiencies, there's a basis there for the manager to launch a promotion campaign.

[exberlinerterrier]

May 2, 2024 20:59:33 GMT 1 Million Dollar Babies said:

So from ABs presser today it sounds like we can expect plenty to leave.

Seen a Derby fan saying they're interested in Wiles. Their manager might think he can get him playing for him like he did at Rotherham. I'm pretty sure Town would let him go for a small fee just to get his wages off the books

 I would imagine plenty will leave - perhaps even more if AB stays. 

 Looking at our squad, I only see a few players we can get fees for. 

 Nicholls
 Spencer
 Helik
 Diarra (via youth player tribunal)
 Thomas
 Rudoni (would like him to stay most out of this group)

 Then there's those returning to parent clubs: 
 Matos
 Edwards
 Burgzorg 

 And then the list of those I think we can allow to depart (whether for small fees or for free) 
 Hogg
 Koroma (a potential keep because I think there's a decent squad player there)
 Jackson
 Rhodes
 Austerfield
 Hudlin
 Harratt
 Simpson
 Mahoney 
 Rowe


 If it was up to me, I'd like to retain the following (considering those I'd allow to depart in the lists above): 
 Maxwell
 Chapman
 Bellagami 

 Turton
 Pearson
 Lees
 Balker
 Nakayama
 Ayina 
 Ruffels 
 Headley 

 Kasumu
 Iorpenda 
 Wiles 
 Jones 
 Rudoni (again, that one in the sell list I'd like to keep ideally)
 High (very much a squad option for the u23s cup etc)

 Healey
 Ward
 Radulovic 
 Phillips 
 
 

[Kenny irons]

Sorba, diarra, rudoni, nicholls, helik, koroma Nakayama Ruffles will all go. Spencer will only go if a big offer comes in for him because his wage isn’t as big as the others stated.

Time to rebuild now with no bad eggs.


UTT

[Baby Ate My Eight Ball]

May 2, 2024 22:26:19 GMT 1 Million Dollar Babies said:

May 2, 2024 22:01:24 GMT 1 terriersyndrome said:

The outgoings I can see happening are..

Helik. Championship clubs will already have him earmarked.

Thomas. Bit of a dick but he's a set-piece specialist at Championship level and I'm sure we'll get some bids. His numbers don't lie. 7 goals and 33 assists in 3 seasons.

Spencer. Top prospect. I'll be sad to see him leave but I reckon a top end championship club will snap him up.

Rudoni. He works hard and has technical qualities, if he can brush up in the final 3rd he'd be a top championship player. Someone will no doubt snap him up.

Healey. He is a natural scorer and has good numbers in his limited minutes last season. I reckon a Pompey type will be in for him.

We should be able to get around £10m for those.

Plenty more I'd be moving on, but those are the ones who I think could give us a reasonable transfer kitty next season.

Spencer has done ok since coming back but massively over hyped on here.

He's definitely not championship quality with the ball at his feet and positionally he has a lot to learn. His pace gets him out of trouble and he makes some great last ditch tackles.

I think it's a massive gamble for anyone to pay good money for him and so I would be surprised to see him leave this summer

Broadly agree, although I think he's currently a bit better than you give him credit for and has lots of potential.

We should definitely be trying to keep him, don't think we'll have people queuing up for him (maybe someone like Leicester as a prospect) and should be pitching to him hard that it's the best place for his development. A year tearing it up in League one would be good for him.

[crux]

May 3, 2024 11:56:10 GMT 1 Kenny irons said:

Sorba, diarra, rudoni, nicholls, helik, koroma Nakayama Ruffles will all go. Spencer will only go if a big offer comes in for him because his wage isn’t as big as the others stated.

Time to rebuild now with no bad eggs.


UTT

Not sure how Ruffels will get a move until he's proven his fitness and to be honest he's probably worth keeping for a year as a squad player. League 1 is probably his level and having a left footed option would be novelty.

[garyroberts'leftfoot]

Ruffles was a viable option in the championship last year so will certainly be a solid player in league 1. Seems to have a good attitude from what I can see so we shouldn’t be looking to offload. We can’t just get rid of everyone and start again.

[bentley316]

Its a big if. But if we can keep hold of Rudoni, i think he could be massive for us in this league.

At the minute our tactics are always, gerrit to Sorba.

With Sorba gone, Rudoni will have a lot more of the ball and potentially get the chance to become a focal point/controller of the team.

He's played a lot of Championship football and he's only 22. He could rip this league up if all goes to plan.

So I think we will lose through sales or releases:
Nicholls (But i could also see him wanting to stick around)
Helik
Pearson
Diarra
Thomas
Headley
Wiles
Balker
Nakayama

And all the loanee except Ayina

I really hope we can keep hold of Healy and Spencer, but im not optimistic. So i think theyll go too.

[TomTheTerrier]

Have to wonder what some people are smoking sometimes.

Spencer - hugely overhyped, had half a decent season for a garbage Championship team. Will be with us next season unless he himself actively wants outs for whatever reason.

Healey - we’ve just bought him at a significant fee. Has pulled up no trees. League one is broadly his level historically. Hard to see anyone in the Champ wanting to stump up for him.

Koroma - who on earth do we think would be in for Koroma that we’d struggle to keep him? Has been on loan to league one recently and wasn’t great. Will be with us next season unless we want rid, and zero chance he goes above L1.

Some likely will go abroad - Yuta, Diarra, maybe Balker

The only players in our squad who might interest Champ clubs are Rudoni, Helik, Nicholls and Thomas.

Everyone else will either be staying, or going L1 or below.

[terriersyndrome]

May 3, 2024 18:28:41 GMT 1 TomTheTerrier said:

Have to wonder what some people are smoking sometimes.

Spencer - hugely overhyped, had half a decent season for a garbage Championship team. Will be with us next season unless he himself actively wants outs for whatever reason.

Healey - we’ve just bought him at a significant fee. Has pulled up no trees. League one is broadly his level historically. Hard to see anyone in the Champ wanting to stump up for him.

Koroma - who on earth do we think would be in for Koroma that we’d struggle to keep him? Has been on loan to league one recently and wasn’t great. Will be with us next season unless we want rid, and zero chance he goes above L1.

Some likely will go abroad - Yuta, Diarra, maybe Balker

The only players in our squad who might interest Champ clubs are Rudoni, Helik, Nicholls and Thomas.

Everyone else will either be staying, or going L1 or below.

Spencer is still only 19, very highly regarded at Motherwell, did a good job in a poor side when he returned. In his break out season he's already played at the Etihad, Celtic park, Ibrox, Hamden park and the national arena in Bucharest. Hugely overhyped? One of the only positives this season and will go on to bigger and better things than this circus.

[TomTheTerrier]

Highly regarded at Motherwell 😂

[crux]

May 3, 2024 20:38:30 GMT 1 TomTheTerrier said:

Highly regarded at Motherwell 😂

They'd rip us to shreds 🤔😉

[King Curtis]

May 3, 2024 18:28:41 GMT 1 TomTheTerrier said:

Have to wonder what some people are smoking sometimes.

Spencer - hugely overhyped, had half a decent season for a garbage Championship team. Will be with us next season unless he himself actively wants outs for whatever reason.

Healey - we’ve just bought him at a significant fee. Has pulled up no trees. League one is broadly his level historically. Hard to see anyone in the Champ wanting to stump up for him.

Koroma - who on earth do we think would be in for Koroma that we’d struggle to keep him? Has been on loan to league one recently and wasn’t great. Will be with us next season unless we want rid, and zero chance he goes above L1.

Some likely will go abroad - Yuta, Diarra, maybe Balker

The only players in our squad who might interest Champ clubs are Rudoni, Helik, Nicholls and Thomas.

Everyone else will either be staying, or going L1 or below.

Finally some sense.

Most of the squad have now found their level.

Well done HTAFC.

[terriersyndrome]

May 3, 2024 20:38:30 GMT 1 TomTheTerrier said:

Highly regarded at Motherwell 😂

Part of his breakout season. They were gutted when he left.

Trashing our academy players is just pathetic, especially one that's put most of the rest of our team to shame this season.

He'll be playing at a higher level than us next season.

[bells ringing :)]

May 3, 2024 20:44:15 GMT 1 terriersyndrome said:

May 3, 2024 20:38:30 GMT 1 TomTheTerrier said:

Highly regarded at Motherwell 😂

Part of his breakout season. They were gutted when he left.

Trashing our academy players is just pathetic, especially one that's put most of the rest of our team to shame this season.

He'll be playing at a higher level than us next season.

I think the "he will be playing at a higher level than us , next season , depends on him" Spencer always comes across as a fella with his head firmley on his shoulders. Does he want to go somwhere and not play/ be a squad player, or play every week for us ? heck he is an international regardless , therefore at 19 years old a year playing week in week out for us will do him no harm at all . If we were to be promoted then he is back, if not he leaves , having got regular game time, so leaving to be a regular starter.

[wildhogg]

Spencer is a terrific prospect at 19. Can play anywhere across the defence, great tackler, is ok (with lots of improvement in him) on the ball and presents as being very mature for his age. I think he'll have gone under the radar a bit, given how appalling we've been as a team. However, if anyone's interested then it'd be a scandal if we accept peanuts for him.

[TomTheTerrier]

May 3, 2024 20:44:15 GMT 1 terriersyndrome said:

May 3, 2024 20:38:30 GMT 1 TomTheTerrier said:

Highly regarded at Motherwell 😂

Part of his breakout season. They were gutted when he left.

Trashing our academy players is just pathetic, especially one that's put most of the rest of our team to shame this season.

He'll be playing at a higher level than us next season.

Spoilers: he won’t

I’m not trashing him, he’s been decent. But he’s not the second coming of Gary Neville just yet.

[BlueValour]

May 4, 2024 8:16:42 GMT 1 TomTheTerrier said:

May 3, 2024 20:44:15 GMT 1 terriersyndrome said:

Part of his breakout season. They were gutted when he left.

Trashing our academy players is just pathetic, especially one that's put most of the rest of our team to shame this season.

He'll be playing at a higher level than us next season.

Spoilers: he won’t

I’m not trashing him, he’s been decent. But he’s not the second coming of Gary Neville just yet.

Thank the Lord for that; I can't stand GN!

[BlueValour]

May 3, 2024 20:54:53 GMT 1 bells ringing :) said:

May 3, 2024 20:44:15 GMT 1 terriersyndrome said:

Part of his breakout season. They were gutted when he left.

Trashing our academy players is just pathetic, especially one that's put most of the rest of our team to shame this season.

He'll be playing at a higher level than us next season.

I think the "he will be playing at a higher level than us , next season , depends on him" Spencer always comes across as a fella with his head firmley on his shoulders. Does he want to go somwhere and not play/ be a squad player, or play every week for us ? heck he is an international regardless , therefore at 19 years old a year playing week in week out for us will do him no harm at all . If we were to be promoted then he is back, if not he leaves , having got regular game time, so leaving to be a regular starter.

It depends what offer he gets! He'll be like all players; if the offer is good enough he'll be off !

[dewsburyterrier]

Do we usually release a list of players leaving and out of contract by now?
Maybe the wait for a new head coach will delay it?

[Terriersmad]

May 13, 2024 9:15:24 GMT 1 dewsburyterrier said:

Do we usually release a list of players leaving and out of contract by now?
Maybe the wait for a new head coach will delay it?

No need for panic. We need to lodge the retained list with the EFL by Saturday. Not many clubs have released theirs yet. Only about 5 or 6 in the Championship have (including Bristol City, who have released Matty James - a midfield ball-player who was their captain, still only 32... Not the worst option in the world). Loads of clubs will release theirs this week.

[Big Ern]

Lots of talk on twitter saying Sorba Thomas to Middlesborough