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Post by dewsburyterrier on May 13, 2024 14:53:30 GMT 1
Lots of talk on twitter saying Sorba Thomas to Middlesborough Hopefully will push the price up if, as also rumoured, Derby are interested. |
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Post by town1971 on May 13, 2024 14:58:09 GMT 1
Let's hope it is true.
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Post by sheps on May 13, 2024 15:27:31 GMT 1
The outgoings I can see happening are.. Helik. Championship clubs will already have him earmarked. Thomas. Bit of a dick but he's a set-piece specialist at Championship level and I'm sure we'll get some bids. His numbers don't lie. 7 goals and 33 assists in 3 seasons. Spencer. Top prospect. I'll be sad to see him leave but I reckon a top end championship club will snap him up. Rudoni. He works hard and has technical qualities, if he can brush up in the final 3rd he'd be a top championship player. Someone will no doubt snap him up. Healey. He is a natural scorer and has good numbers in his limited minutes last season. I reckon a Pompey type will be in for him. We should be able to get around £10m for those. Plenty more I'd be moving on, but those are the ones who I think could give us a reasonable transfer kitty next season. is he?? |
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Post by leroy212 on May 13, 2024 15:36:32 GMT 1
The outgoings I can see happening are.. Helik. Championship clubs will already have him earmarked. Thomas. Bit of a dick but he's a set-piece specialist at Championship level and I'm sure we'll get some bids. His numbers don't lie. 7 goals and 33 assists in 3 seasons. Spencer. Top prospect. I'll be sad to see him leave but I reckon a top end championship club will snap him up. Rudoni. He works hard and has technical qualities, if he can brush up in the final 3rd he'd be a top championship player. Someone will no doubt snap him up. Healey. He is a natural scorer and has good numbers in his limited minutes last season. I reckon a Pompey type will be in for him. We should be able to get around £10m for those. Plenty more I'd be moving on, but those are the ones who I think could give us a reasonable transfer kitty next season. is he?? For someone who can cross and take decent corners, his direct free kicks are rubbish |
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 13, 2024 15:58:10 GMT 1
The outgoings I can see happening are.. Helik. Championship clubs will already have him earmarked. Thomas. Bit of a dick but he's a set-piece specialist at Championship level and I'm sure we'll get some bids. His numbers don't lie. 7 goals and 33 assists in 3 seasons. Spencer. Top prospect. I'll be sad to see him leave but I reckon a top end championship club will snap him up. Rudoni. He works hard and has technical qualities, if he can brush up in the final 3rd he'd be a top championship player. Someone will no doubt snap him up. Healey. He is a natural scorer and has good numbers in his limited minutes last season. I reckon a Pompey type will be in for him. We should be able to get around £10m for those. Plenty more I'd be moving on, but those are the ones who I think could give us a reasonable transfer kitty next season. is he?? I'd say a fair chunk of his 33 assists since playing league football were from set-pieces. You'd struggle to find many other players at this level with those kinds of numbers. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on May 13, 2024 16:11:37 GMT 1
There's been a bit of a juvenile/immature response to Sorba since we got relegated - bit like a jilted lover slagging off their ex.
He was poor at scoring but his delivery from set pieces, and often from crosses, is top notch for the championship. A goalscoring number 9 would love his delivery. He improved in his tracking back and dribbling last year and if well managed could develop well next season.
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Post by sheps on May 13, 2024 16:17:22 GMT 1
For someone who can cross and take decent corners, his direct free kicks are rubbish How many times do his corners hit the first man? |
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Post by steo1986 on May 13, 2024 16:21:53 GMT 1
For someone who can cross and take decent corners, his direct free kicks are rubbish How many times do his corners hit the first man? 9 times out of 10 !!! |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 13, 2024 19:10:16 GMT 1
I'd say a fair chunk of his 33 assists since playing league football were from set-pieces. You'd struggle to find many other players at this level with those kinds of numbers. And that sums it up perfectly. So many higjly subjective opinions on Thomas, and others, yet it's the numbers that are the reality. A very good coach could get a lot more out of him, but unfortunately Duff won't get the opportunity, |
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Post by bigtruck on May 13, 2024 19:13:49 GMT 1
Do we need to sell? These players have contracts and if KN and Duff Man are happy with them then why waste money replacing rather than just adding players. I presume Thomas will go for obvious reasons but don’t see why we have to sell the likes of Rudoni, Spencer or even Helik.
We could find ourselves being able to recruit from a position of strength but strike a deal similar to Rhodes where they give us until January and if we aren’t in contention we sell then.
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Still gives us Wiles, Kasumu, Jones, Hogg as options. A ball player and defensive midfielder and that team should cruise L1
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Post by Terrier Ramone on May 13, 2024 19:41:43 GMT 1
Do we need to sell? These players have contracts and if KN and Duff Man are happy with them then why waste money replacing rather than just adding players. I presume Thomas will go for obvious reasons but don’t see why we have to sell the likes of Rudoni, Spencer or even Helik. We could find ourselves being able to recruit from a position of strength but strike a deal similar to Rhodes where they give us until January and if we aren’t in contention we sell then. Nicholls Pearson Helik Balker Pearson CM CM Headley Rudoni Healey Bojan Still gives us Wiles, Kasumu, Jones, Hogg as options. A ball player and defensive midfielder and that team should cruise L1 You have Pearson twice, do you mean Spencer or Turton? |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2024 20:24:58 GMT 1
I think we should be able to get around 5-6 million for helik
4-5for sorba
3-4 for rudoni
If we get anything less we’ve had our pants down
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Post by bigtruck on May 13, 2024 20:37:28 GMT 1
Do we need to sell? These players have contracts and if KN and Duff Man are happy with them then why waste money replacing rather than just adding players. I presume Thomas will go for obvious reasons but don’t see why we have to sell the likes of Rudoni, Spencer or even Helik. We could find ourselves being able to recruit from a position of strength but strike a deal similar to Rhodes where they give us until January and if we aren’t in contention we sell then. Nicholls Pearson Helik Balker Pearson CM CM Headley Rudoni Healey Bojan Still gives us Wiles, Kasumu, Jones, Hogg as options. A ball player and defensive midfielder and that team should cruise L1 You have Pearson twice, do you mean Spencer or Turton? Yep my bad. Spencer. |
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Post by sheps on May 13, 2024 20:46:28 GMT 1
I'd say a fair chunk of his 33 assists since playing league football were from set-pieces. You'd struggle to find many other players at this level with those kinds of numbers. How many games has he played to achieve 33 assists? Genuine questions not being funny… He may well have had 25 or more assist from dead balls but that doesn’t mean he’s not frustrating as hell when we are desperately searching for a goal and he can’t beat the first man with a corner, especially when we are so under pressure. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 13, 2024 21:29:44 GMT 1
I'd say a fair chunk of his 33 assists since playing league football were from set-pieces. You'd struggle to find many other players at this level with those kinds of numbers. How many games has he played to achieve 33 assists? Genuine questions not being funny… He may well have had 25 or more assist from dead balls but that doesn’t mean he’s not frustrating as hell when we are desperately searching for a goal and he can’t beat the first man with a corner, especially when we are so under pressure. He's averaged a better than 1 in 3 goal contribution since leaving Boreham wood. |
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Post by Wingman on May 13, 2024 21:37:59 GMT 1
I'd say a fair chunk of his 33 assists since playing league football were from set-pieces. You'd struggle to find many other players at this level with those kinds of numbers. And that sums it up perfectly. So many higjly subjective opinions on Thomas, and others, yet it's the numbers that are the reality. A very good coach could get a lot more out of him, but unfortunately Duff won't get the opportunity, The thing is if, as rumoured, he is a leak from within the team, then he HAS to go. No if's, no but's, get him gone. As for Helik, we won't get more than £2m. He's into the final year of his deal this Summer isn't he? |
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Post by ezzie on May 13, 2024 22:23:14 GMT 1
And that sums it up perfectly. So many higjly subjective opinions on Thomas, and others, yet it's the numbers that are the reality. A very good coach could get a lot more out of him, but unfortunately Duff won't get the opportunity, The thing is if, as rumoured, he is a leak from within the team, then he HAS to go. No if's, no but's, get him gone. As for Helik, we won't get more than £2m. He's into the final year of his deal this Summer isn't he? Not a chance in hell Helik goes for anything less than 5… |
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Post by Wingman on May 13, 2024 22:24:59 GMT 1
The thing is if, as rumoured, he is a leak from within the team, then he HAS to go. No if's, no but's, get him gone. As for Helik, we won't get more than £2m. He's into the final year of his deal this Summer isn't he? Not a chance in hell Helik goes for anything less than 5… Delighted if we get £5m but we’re a League One side now, 12 months on his deal and if he spits the dummy to go….all reduces what we can demand. |
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Post by Big Ern on May 13, 2024 22:36:47 GMT 1
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Post by Detective Boyle on May 13, 2024 23:28:04 GMT 1
I think we should be able to get around 5-6 million for helik 4-5for sorba 3-4 for rudoni If we get anything less we’ve had our pants down 4 million for Thomas and we are the ones pulling pants down. He can barely pass a football and will get found out at any other championship team. |
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Post by stable on May 14, 2024 6:53:42 GMT 1
Do we need to sell? These players have contracts and if KN and Duff Man are happy with them then why waste money replacing rather than just adding players. I presume Thomas will go for obvious reasons but don’t see why we have to sell the likes of Rudoni, Spencer or even Helik. We could find ourselves being able to recruit from a position of strength but strike a deal similar to Rhodes where they give us until January and if we aren’t in contention we sell then. Nicholls Pearson Helik Balker Pearson CM CM Headley Rudoni Healey Bojan Still gives us Wiles, Kasumu, Jones, Hogg as options. A ball player and defensive midfielder and that team should cruise L1 Also Lees and Ruffles |
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Post by boooothy on May 14, 2024 9:23:00 GMT 1
I’d have no problem if we gave Helik over the top wages above everyone else and made him captain. Anything to keep him. He did say something along the lines of he only left Barnsley to try get in Poland’s World Cup
squad, not really an issue right now.
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Post by Jimuano on May 14, 2024 9:28:03 GMT 1
I’d have no problem if we gave Helik over the top wages above everyone else and made him captain. Anything to keep him. He did say something along the lines of he only left Barnsley to try get in Poland’s World Cup squad, not really an issue right now. He's easily a championship standard defender and probably at his peak in the next couple of years. I'm sure there'll be plenty of mid table & lower champ clubs in for him at around £3 million. Hopefully they can convince him to stay for at least one more year. |
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Post by benhomly on May 14, 2024 9:32:57 GMT 1
I think we should be able to get around 5-6 million for helik 4-5for sorba 3-4 for rudoni If we get anything less we’ve had our pants down Between 12 and 15m for 3 players from a relegated side from the Championship? Dream on. |
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Post by foxtrot666 on May 14, 2024 9:40:19 GMT 1
Be lucky to get 15 million for the entire squad.
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 14, 2024 9:44:07 GMT 1
We'll probably get around £13-£14m for the players I suspect might leave.
Nicholls £1.5m
Sorba £3m
Rudoni £3m
Helik £3.5m
Spencer £2.5m
Diarra £500k (tribunal)
I can see all getting offers from the championship/Europe tbf.
It should help cushion the blow of relegation and give us a decent budget in league 1 terms for a promotion push.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on May 14, 2024 9:44:23 GMT 1
there isn’t a cat in hells chance we get 5 million for Sorba, there’s a reason Blackburn didn’t want him full time
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Post by Terriersmad on May 14, 2024 10:01:55 GMT 1
We'll probably get around £13-£14m for the players I suspect might leave. Nicholls £1.5m Sorba £3m Rudoni £3m Helik £3.5m Spencer £2.5m Diarra £500k (tribunal)I can see all getting offers from the championship/Europe tbf. It should help cushion the blow of relegation and give us a decent budget in league 1 terms for a promotion push. Since the EPPP came in the amount we'd be awarded is capped at a certain amount per year he's been with us, plus a flat fee of £80,000 for appearances made in League Two and the Championship. We wouldn't get that amount at a tribunal, unfortunately, because of the way the system is stacked. |
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Post by Wingman on May 14, 2024 10:27:26 GMT 1
We'll probably get around £13-£14m for the players I suspect might leave. Nicholls £1.5m Sorba £3m Rudoni £3m Helik £3.5m Spencer £2.5m Diarra £500k (tribunal)I can see all getting offers from the championship/Europe tbf. It should help cushion the blow of relegation and give us a decent budget in league 1 terms for a promotion push. Since the EPPP came in the amount we'd be awarded is capped at a certain amount per year he's been with us, plus a flat fee of £80,000 for appearances made in League Two and the Championship. We wouldn't get that amount at a tribunal, unfortunately, because of the way the system is stacked. He’s taking a wage and giving nothing so any brass we get and a sell-on fee (if we can) will be most welcome I’d think. |
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Post by Terriersmad on May 14, 2024 10:39:45 GMT 1
Since the EPPP came in the amount we'd be awarded is capped at a certain amount per year he's been with us, plus a flat fee of £80,000 for appearances made in League Two and the Championship. We wouldn't get that amount at a tribunal, unfortunately, because of the way the system is stacked. He’s taking a wage and giving nothing so any brass we get and a sell-on fee (if we can) will be most welcome I’d think. Absolutely. And if he was over 24 we'd get nothing, so take the brass and run! Not sure we'd get a sell-on beyond a very nominal fee, though. I'm not 100% with the rules of the EPPP. |
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