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Post by specialun on May 14, 2024 16:14:12 GMT 1
Hogg stays if he wants a new deal & will take a cut
No brainer
We were abysmal in centre mid when we didn’t have him but had league 2 Kasumu, on his arse matos and invisible wiles. Kasumu & Wiles both can’t be as bad this season but Hogg remained our best mid
Hogg shouldn’t be first choice, he shouldn’t have been for 3 years if others had stepped up or recruitment had been better but neither happened
I ask for the fourth time to those who don’t want to offer him a deal
Who are we bringing in who will do a better job
We’ve had 10 years to buy a better centre mid. We’ve done it once - one of our best ever players Mooy
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Post by Captainslapper on May 14, 2024 16:21:11 GMT 1
Plenty of things wrong with our team last season, but you'd have to go a hell of a long way down a list of them to find Hogg. Most of our players would be higher up it than him.
We really shouldnt miss him to the extent we do when he isnt playing, but clearly we do nonetheless.
Hes been a brilliant leader on the pitch for many years.
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Post by buxtonboys101 on May 14, 2024 16:25:00 GMT 1
A little perplexed at some of the negative comments on Duff. For me he ticks all the right boxes. Last year in the Play Off final his Barnsley team were very unlucky against Wednesday who had the divisions biggest budget although hamstrung by an incompetent manager. He has done well with a club that considers itself 'smaller' than us and we have an owner who seems prepared to back the manager/coach. Yes, there are some troubling aspects regarding transfers so far but let's hope that the recruitment team have learnt lessons and we bring in some players who can get us back to the Championship as soon as possible. I believe they can and will. UTT
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Post by Maynardblue on May 14, 2024 16:44:40 GMT 1
Is there a presser going on today, or will we wait until pre season for this or not have one and keep it low key ? Tomorrow apparently |
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 14, 2024 16:46:26 GMT 1
Is there a presser going on today, or will we wait until pre season for this or not have one and keep it low key ? Tomorrow apparently thanks , maybe waiting to confirm his backroom team prior ? |
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Post by brighousebandbred on May 14, 2024 16:47:17 GMT 1
Normally the season finishes and you forget about town for awhile, got to say with the release of cheap ST s and the positive recruitment of Duff , it’s kept me wanting more , I’m looking forward to the new player recruitment and next season seems quite exciting UTT.
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on May 14, 2024 17:07:14 GMT 1
Hogg would be perfect on the bench / squad player / dressing room guy next season.
Defo worth a one year deal:
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Post by Captainslapper on May 14, 2024 17:28:45 GMT 1
A little perplexed at some of the negative comments on Duff. For me he ticks all the right boxes. Last year in the Play Off final his Barnsley team were very unlucky against Wednesday who had the divisions biggest budget although hamstrung by an incompetent manager. He has done well with a club that considers itself 'smaller' than us and we have an owner who seems prepared to back the manager/coach. Yes, there are some troubling aspects regarding transfers so far but let's hope that the recruitment team have learnt lessons and we bring in some players who can get us back to the Championship as soon as possible. I believe they can and will. UTT I thought Barnsley were the better side in that final even after going down to 10 men. Agree with you about Duff. Im struggling to see what there is to be negative about with him at this stage. There could be a clamour for his head by October , but he could also turn out to be the best appointment weve made in many a long year. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2024 17:45:46 GMT 1
I think Healey is the type of striker who will do well at this level, and Championship if we get back up soon. From what I’ve seen he has a good attitude and is a grafter with a good eye for goal. He seems possibly a bit fragile attitude wise? Asked to leave Watford after less than a half a season, and then his reaction at the final whistle v Birmingham when there had been nothing of any note directed at him. Hopefully not - he looks like he good score an absolute hat full if he's physically and mentally on it. He got hardly any time at Watford and the same thing happened here, partly because AB wouldn’t play our strikers if they weren’t, in his opinion, ready to start games. Also he has always done his best, mostly from the bench, when he has played for us and then the boos still rang out after the Birmingham game. I can see why he wouldn’t be happy. I hope this season is a proper fresh start for the club and the supporters. I think he will be a really good striker for us but only time will tell. |
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Post by Big Jim on May 14, 2024 18:08:36 GMT 1
I think Healey will bag a minimum of 15 next season providing he stays fit. I think he has the hallmarks of a great striker for us, especially in League One. Let's hope he can regain that Toulouse form!
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Post by tepidterrier on May 14, 2024 18:45:19 GMT 1
I think Healey will bag a minimum of 15 next season providing he stays fit. I think he has the hallmarks of a great striker for us, especially in League One. Let's hope he can regain that Toulouse form! When not even fit to play more than a half, in a shite team, he still managed a goal every 160 minutes for us. If he can get right up to full fitness he should be fantastic. |
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Post by royrace on May 14, 2024 19:00:36 GMT 1
A little perplexed at some of the negative comments on Duff. For me he ticks all the right boxes. Last year in the Play Off final his Barnsley team were very unlucky against Wednesday who had the divisions biggest budget although hamstrung by an incompetent manager. He has done well with a club that considers itself 'smaller' than us and we have an owner who seems prepared to back the manager/coach. Yes, there are some troubling aspects regarding transfers so far but let's hope that the recruitment team have learnt lessons and we bring in some players who can get us back to the Championship as soon as possible. I believe they can and will. UTT I thought Barnsley were the better side in that final even after going down to 10 men. Agree with you about Duff. Im struggling to see what there is to be negative about with him at this stage. There could be a clamour for his head by October , but he could also turn out to be the best appointment weve made in many a long year. Barnsley looked a much better side just with worse players, played the better football and looked well organised. Wednesday were ridiculously lucky with the sending off and that last minute winner. They've a couple of decent CM players I think although Kane is linked with Derby so we might not be in with a shout. Either way it's reassuring to know he should know that league and players very well. Hopefully he'll have a big say in any incomings rather than Cartwright. I read somewhere that at Barnsley, he'd banned players from turning up to games wearing headphones and/or baseball caps. That's a very good start imo! |
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Post by royrace on May 14, 2024 19:02:39 GMT 1
I think Healey will bag a minimum of 15 next season providing he stays fit. I think he has the hallmarks of a great striker for us, especially in League One. Let's hope he can regain that Toulouse form! When not even fit to play more than a half, in a shite team, he still managed a goal every 160 minutes for us. If he can get right up to full fitness he should be fantastic. Fingers crossed we keep him fit, those finishes were clinical, the type I don't think we've seen probably since wells. He should, in theory, be too good for L1. We'll see. |
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Post by gowlinggoal on May 14, 2024 19:41:42 GMT 1
When not even fit to play more than a half, in a shite team, he still managed a goal every 160 minutes for us. If he can get right up to full fitness he should be fantastic. Fingers crossed we keep him fit, those finishes were clinical, the type I don't think we've seen probably since wells. He should, in theory, be too good for L1. We'll see. The concern is that he'll fancy a move during the summer. He's the only player at the club I'd definitely keep. |
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Post by dooky82 on May 14, 2024 19:42:04 GMT 1
Need to get rid of Hogg imo. We should be looking to build a team who can create a winning culture and build momentum which can be hopefully carried forward into the Championship following promotion. Ipswich did this very well.
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Post by Big Jim on May 14, 2024 19:50:00 GMT 1
Need to get rid of Hogg imo. We should be looking to build a team who can create a winning culture and build momentum which can be hopefully carried forward into the Championship following promotion. Ipswich did this very well. I agree. As much as Hogg is a club legend and a leader on the pitch, I question his credentials off the pitch. As much as I take what AB said with a pinch of salt, there is clearly division in the dressing room and a culture problem. As captain, he should be setting the standards and pulling everyone in line. It's not all down the manager. A good captain and a good team manages and motivates themselves. |
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Post by goodbet on May 14, 2024 19:56:48 GMT 1
Need to get rid of Hogg imo. We should be looking to build a team who can create a winning culture and build momentum which can be hopefully carried forward into the Championship following promotion. Ipswich did this very well. I agree. As much as Hogg is a club legend and a leader on the pitch, I question his credentials off the pitch. As much as I take what AB said with a pinch of salt, there is clearly division in the dressing room and a culture problem. As captain, he should be setting the standards and pulling everyone in line. It's not all down the manager. A good captain and a good team manages and motivates themselves. H Hogg will be 36 in December. |
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Post by watto80 on May 14, 2024 22:27:32 GMT 1
It’d be better to pull the Hogg sticking plaster off now and start to deal with the midfield properly.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2024 22:48:02 GMT 1
I’m more than confident big duffa is the right man
Can see this being a fun season. UTT.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 15, 2024 0:27:56 GMT 1
Need to get rid of Hogg imo. We should be looking to build a team who can create a winning culture and build momentum which can be hopefully carried forward into the Championship following promotion. Ipswich did this very well. I agree. As much as Hogg is a club legend and a leader on the pitch, I question his credentials off the pitch. As much as I take what AB said with a pinch of salt, there is clearly division in the dressing room and a culture problem. As captain, he should be setting the standards and pulling everyone in line. It's not all down the manager. A good captain and a good team manages and motivates themselves.Think thats maybe a romantic view of the dressing room that probably doesnt actually exist anymore. I think youre underestimating the egos and arrogance of the modern day young footballer, who cares more about what his agent is telling him than what his captain is. |
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Post by uptownfunk on May 15, 2024 0:48:38 GMT 1
A little perplexed at some of the negative comments on Duff. For me he ticks all the right boxes. Last year in the Play Off final his Barnsley team were very unlucky against Wednesday who had the divisions biggest budget although hamstrung by an incompetent manager. He has done well with a club that considers itself 'smaller' than us and we have an owner who seems prepared to back the manager/coach. Yes, there are some troubling aspects regarding transfers so far but let's hope that the recruitment team have learnt lessons and we bring in some players who can get us back to the Championship as soon as possible. I believe they can and will. UTT I thought Barnsley were the better side in that final even after going down to 10 men. Agree with you about Duff. Im struggling to see what there is to be negative about with him at this stage. There could be a clamour for his head by October , but he could also turn out to be the best appointment weve made in many a long year. Agreed. Seems to me to be a very solid appointment and a good fit for the club. His sacking at Swansea has given him the hunger to prove people wrong and get a league one promotion and then do well in the championship. |
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Post by Big Jim on May 15, 2024 0:54:25 GMT 1
I agree. As much as Hogg is a club legend and a leader on the pitch, I question his credentials off the pitch. As much as I take what AB said with a pinch of salt, there is clearly division in the dressing room and a culture problem. As captain, he should be setting the standards and pulling everyone in line. It's not all down the manager. A good captain and a good team manages and motivates themselves.Think thats maybe a romantic view of the dressing room that probably doesnt actually exist anymore. I think youre underestimating the egos and arrogance of the modern day young footballer, who cares more about what his agent is telling him than what his captain is. Quite possibly. What can I say? I'm a hopeless romantic. I'd still like to think whoever our captain is, has it in them to dish out a good bollocking. Duff looks like he's not scared to dish out a few effs and jeffs. Like what's been said previously, I'm hoping these so-called "bad eggs" are moved on this summer. |
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Post by uptownfunk on May 15, 2024 0:56:01 GMT 1
An exciting summer ahead now - who we sell, who we sign, feedback from Duff and club communications plus all the gossip rumour and itk posters on here it’s gonna be good. Itll be interesting to see what if any offers come in and how we deal in the market. We might keep our best players and sign some new ones. We might have a fire sale… I
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Post by geoffhuttsbandylegs on May 15, 2024 3:28:25 GMT 1
I thought Barnsley were the better side in that final even after going down to 10 men. Agree with you about Duff. Im struggling to see what there is to be negative about with him at this stage. There could be a clamour for his head by October , but he could also turn out to be the best appointment weve made in many a long year. Agreed. Seems to me to be a very solid appointment and a good fit for the club. His sacking at Swansea has given him the hunger to prove people wrong and get a league one promotion and then do well in the championship. |
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Post by geoffhuttsbandylegs on May 15, 2024 3:34:19 GMT 1
Agreed. Seems to me to be a very solid appointment and a good fit for the club. His sacking at Swansea has given him the hunger to prove people wrong and get a league one promotion and then do well in the championship. Might be worth a watch, and enlightening re Michael Duff and what he is all about; |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on May 15, 2024 5:22:16 GMT 1
Cheers. Quite a few interesting points from the Barnsley lad - can safely say I don't think we'll be found wanting in the fitness level and work rate departments by the sound of it. Might take a month or two to get the style(s) of play into full flow, but that's normal when you're starting out somewhere new.
Decent watch, that, even this early in the morning!
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2024 8:15:33 GMT 1
Hogg stays if he wants a new deal & will take a cut No brainer We were abysmal in centre mid when we didn’t have him but had league 2 Kasumu, on his arse matos and invisible wiles. Kasumu & Wiles both can’t be as bad this season but Hogg remained our best mid Hogg shouldn’t be first choice, he shouldn’t have been for 3 years if others had stepped up or recruitment had been better but neither happened I ask for the fourth time to those who don’t want to offer him a deal Who are we bringing in who will do a better job We’ve had 10 years to buy a better centre mid. We’ve done it once - one of our best ever players Mooy I do think Hogg is a double edged sword. He gives a solid base to our midfield but his passing and forward movement hold us back. If we had a Mooy, someone who would drop deep and pick up the ball, then Hogg could play the holding role but without that we need someone, not like Mooy, more like Barry Horne. Assured on the ball with an eye for a pass but solid in the tackle as well. Basically a Hogg upgrade. Either that or, with 3 centre halves, one of them doing the Hogg role but with better passing. Having 3 centre backs and Hogg means we are building a wall to our own ability to move forward through the middle. With the centre backs being better at moving up the pitch and midfielders prepared to drop back to pick the ball up in the middle we could be over the halfway line, as other teams do, without resorting to pushing it wide. |
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Post by runner76 on May 15, 2024 9:10:23 GMT 1
Might be worth a watch, and enlightening re Michael Duff and what he is all about; Sounds like we got the right man. And he can deal with the media as well: |
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Post by incognito on May 15, 2024 9:13:55 GMT 1
Might be worth a watch, and enlightening re Michael Duff and what he is all about; Thanks for sharing. I grew up in HD8 but still had to work fairly hard to understand what 'Tykes TV' Neil was saying  Looking forward to Duff's first Town press conference. I watched the Barnsley one that Neil refers to a few months ago and quickly concluded that he is somebody I would be prepared to trust with my football team. |
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Post by irverino on May 15, 2024 9:38:08 GMT 1
I agree. As much as Hogg is a club legend and a leader on the pitch, I question his credentials off the pitch. As much as I take what AB said with a pinch of salt, there is clearly division in the dressing room and a culture problem. As captain, he should be setting the standards and pulling everyone in line. It's not all down the manager. A good captain and a good team manages and motivates themselves. H Hogg will be 36 in December. The knocks he's taken over the years are starting to show more, is he missed when not in the squad? Well for DM & AB they both tasted defeat & poor performances for the 1st time when Hoggy was injured/suspended & missing from the dressing room.......Never had a bad word from any of the managers over ten years (quite the opposite) & an overwhelming majority of Town fans appreciate his efforts. |
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