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Post by richhtfc on May 17, 2024 22:28:33 GMT 1
Does anyone know if there’s any chance of us keeping Helik? They’re saying we don’t need to sell, and surely there’d be no better sign of intent than convincing him to stay with us?
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 17, 2024 22:33:46 GMT 1
Does anyone know if there’s any chance of us keeping Helik? They’re saying we don’t need to sell, and surely there’d be no better sign of intent than convincing him to stay with us? Duff had him at Barnsley so I would assume he'll be having high level talks with Helik, can't lose our top scorer. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2024 22:41:29 GMT 1
Does anyone know if there’s any chance of us keeping Helik? They’re saying we don’t need to sell, and surely there’d be no better sign of intent than convincing him to stay with us? Duff had him at Barnsley so I would assume he'll be having high level talks with Helik, can't lose our top scorer. Duff didn’t have him at Barnsley. He came to us the summer Duff took over I believe. |
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Post by haskins on May 17, 2024 22:42:23 GMT 1
Does anyone know if there’s any chance of us keeping Helik? They’re saying we don’t need to sell, and surely there’d be no better sign of intent than convincing him to stay with us? Duff had him at Barnsley so I would assume he'll be having high level talks with Helik, can't lose our top scorer. I think Helik was one of the ones who left in the fire sale when Duff took over so I’m not sure how much contact, if any, they would have had. I hope he can persuade him to stay though. |
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Post by goodbet on May 17, 2024 22:50:21 GMT 1
Duff had him at Barnsley so I would assume he'll be having high level talks with Helik, can't lose our top scorer. I think Helik was one of the ones who left in the fire sale when Duff took over so I’m not sure how much contact, if any, they would have had. I hope he can persuade him to stay though. Why a fire sale? I would have thought (and hoped) that if we were having a fire sale it would only be for any bad eggs that we may have and I don't think that helik would be seen as one of those. |
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Post by dxterrier on May 17, 2024 23:06:16 GMT 1
Does anyone know if there’s any chance of us keeping Helik? They’re saying we don’t need to sell, and surely there’d be no better sign of intent than convincing him to stay with us? Just a feeling I have no inside knowledge but i'd say no chance, lets be honest he is way above league 1 level, its a short career and can't see him wanting to waste even a year below his level, he gets into most championship teams, absolute respect to the lad if he does stay but IMO he is off, along with: Sorba....bridges all burnt and a championship side will take a risk for his set piece play Spencer Rudoni Healy Nichols Koroma Also think a few more will feel they are better than league one, Baulker(Sp??) Headley and don't think radulovich(sp??) will fancy it either Doesn't leave us with much, just hope Duff and Bert and Ernie can do a good job convincing a few players the club is not a shitshow as last seasons well publicised failings will make it hard to sell the club and attract players |
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Post by crux on May 17, 2024 23:47:46 GMT 1
I think Helik was one of the ones who left in the fire sale when Duff took over so I’m not sure how much contact, if any, they would have had. I hope he can persuade him to stay though. Why a fire sale? I would have thought (and hoped) that if we were having a fire sale it would only be for any bad eggs that we may have and I don't think that helik would be seen as one of those. The 'Fire Sale' talked about was at Barnsley when they were relegated. It was when/how we signed Helik. It has been said that we don't have to sell anyone, for financial reasons, but I suspect some will be sold for other reasons! |
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Post by Big Jim on May 17, 2024 23:55:49 GMT 1
Cartwright alluded to their being a pot of money allocated for transfers this summer which hasn't changed, despite relegation. One would optimisticly hope that the funds generated from player sales would also be reinvested in the playing squad.
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Post by desertstorm on May 18, 2024 0:16:57 GMT 1
Ask Maynard, I don’t know a bloody thing 😂 |
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Post by wildhogg on May 18, 2024 0:26:13 GMT 1
Does anyone know if there’s any chance of us keeping Helik? They’re saying we don’t need to sell, and surely there’d be no better sign of intent than convincing him to stay with us? Just a feeling I have no inside knowledge but i'd say no chance, lets be honest he is way above league 1 level, its a short career and can't see him wanting to waste even a year below his level, he gets into most championship teams, absolute respect to the lad if he does stay but IMO he is off, along with: Sorba....bridges all burnt and a championship side will take a risk for his set piece play Spencer Rudoni Healy Nichols Koroma Also think a few more will feel they are better than league one, Baulker(Sp??) Headley and don't think radulovich(sp??) will fancy it either Doesn't leave us with much, just hope Duff and Bert and Ernie can do a good job convincing a few players the club is not a shitshow as last seasons well publicised failings will make it hard to sell the club and attract players I reckon we can say with almost 100% certainty that no-one is going to take Balker over the summer. Perhaps in the January window if he stays fit. His injury record over the last 2-3 seasons is absolutely horrendous, and he's a bad knee injury away from retirement. Looks a great player, but no-one remotely sensible is going to gamble on him at this point. In terms of Helik, no doubt there'll be a few bids for him. We love him, but there's no getting past the fact that he's now been part of two relegated squads in the last three seasons. That won't go unnoticed and potential bidders will absolutely scrutinise his form before paying silly money. I wouldn't be surprised to see him still here at the start of 24-25. Sorba will go to one of the clubs promoted to the Championship, most likely Pompey. His stats, which are all important nowadays, tell their own story. Rudoni; again, clubs will consult the stats men and be told that his actual output is nigh on being negligible in terms of goals and assists versus games played. The first half hauling against Ipswich won't help him secure a transfer away, either. |
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on May 18, 2024 0:56:13 GMT 1
Danny Ward shares things like that at the school gates? Come on, why on earth would he do that? There’s every chance, as you have just shown, that those comments would turn up on social media. No way he would share anything like that. He would as he doesn't seem to care mate, 7k a week on a 2 year contract. He doesn't need to play jsut be paid. Remember players are human beings, lips slip and when you don't care either way, as you have gaurnteed money and all that. Remember during his interviews this season alone, he has yawned his way through them , which tell you as much. Reckon he is on alot more than that. Highest earner in the club apparently. 2 x that & the rest. Could be wrong. Naughty Warnock. |
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Post by Wingman on May 18, 2024 1:50:39 GMT 1
Ask Maynard, I don’t know a bloody thing 😂 Ahh I like it, subtly passing the buck. Clever, nudge nudge, wink wink. |
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Post by rockwall on May 18, 2024 7:47:04 GMT 1
He did come to mind but no i have Duhaney at number one. Jason Davidson has entered the chat.... I don't recall him playing in the PL? |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 18, 2024 8:07:59 GMT 1
Does anyone know if there’s any chance of us keeping Helik? They’re saying we don’t need to sell, and surely there’d be no better sign of intent than convincing him to stay with us? Just a feeling I have no inside knowledge but i'd say no chance, lets be honest he is way above league 1 level, its a short career and can't see him wanting to waste even a year below his level, he gets into most championship teams, absolute respect to the lad if he does stay but IMO he is off, along with: Sorba....bridges all burnt and a championship side will take a risk for his set piece play Spencer Rudoni Healy Nichols Koroma Also think a few more will feel they are better than league one, Baulker(Sp??) Headley and don't think radulovich(sp??) will fancy it either Doesn't leave us with much, just hope Duff and Bert and Ernie can do a good job convincing a few players the club is not a shitshow as last seasons well publicised failings will make it hard to sell the club and attract players “…and Bert and Ernie”. Perfect description 🤣 |
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Post by Horney Barry on May 18, 2024 8:17:19 GMT 1
Wednesday just done their retained list. George Byers and Lee Gregory both released 👀
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Post by Sio on May 18, 2024 8:19:29 GMT 1
Wednesday just done their retained list. George Byers and Lee Gregory both released 👀 Gregory has gone to Mansfield, so no doubt we'll sign him after beating them in the PO Final. |
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Post by leroy212 on May 18, 2024 8:50:10 GMT 1
Wednesday just done their retained list. George Byers and Lee Gregory both released 👀 Gregory has gone to Mansfield, so no doubt we'll sign him after beating them in the PO Final. Last thing we need is a 33 yr old forward |
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 18, 2024 9:27:10 GMT 1
He would as he doesn't seem to care mate, 7k a week on a 2 year contract. He doesn't need to play jsut be paid. Remember players are human beings, lips slip and when you don't care either way, as you have gaurnteed money and all that. Remember during his interviews this season alone, he has yawned his way through them , which tell you as much. Reckon he is on alot more than that. Highest earner in the club apparently. 2 x that & the rest. Could be wrong. Naughty Warnock. apparently he was on 12k , then took a wage drop to stay , so is on a very low 7k a week now. he really is on the bread line, thats why he misses so many games "injured" has had to take on a second job you see. |
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on May 18, 2024 9:39:19 GMT 1
Ask Maynard, I don’t know a bloody thing 😂 Ahh I like it, subtly passing the buck. Clever, nudge nudge, wink wink. I’m sure there will be one poster along soon to enlighten us all with his insider knowledge and wisdom 😂 |
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Post by Galpharmer on May 18, 2024 9:39:43 GMT 1
Nicholls will be gone. Daniel Iversen fits as his replacement. Used to play for Stoke and represented by Bewick Sports. Bingo.
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on May 18, 2024 9:50:22 GMT 1
Nicholls will be gone. Daniel Iversen fits as his replacement. Used to play for Stoke and represented by Bewick Sports. Bingo. Is the sun shining? |
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Post by Galpharmer on May 18, 2024 10:00:14 GMT 1
Nicholls will be gone. Daniel Iversen fits as his replacement. Used to play for Stoke and represented by Bewick Sports. Bingo. Is the sun shining? Absolutely. Can’t wait to get back to misery and shit weather. Can you put a poster up in the Club saying we’re shut next Sunday? |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2024 10:01:46 GMT 1
Just a feeling I have no inside knowledge but i'd say no chance, lets be honest he is way above league 1 level, its a short career and can't see him wanting to waste even a year below his level, he gets into most championship teams, absolute respect to the lad if he does stay but IMO he is off, along with: Sorba....bridges all burnt and a championship side will take a risk for his set piece play Spencer Rudoni Healy Nichols Koroma Also think a few more will feel they are better than league one, Baulker(Sp??) Headley and don't think radulovich(sp??) will fancy it either Doesn't leave us with much, just hope Duff and Bert and Ernie can do a good job convincing a few players the club is not a shitshow as last seasons well publicised failings will make it hard to sell the club and attract players I reckon we can say with almost 100% certainty that no-one is going to take Balker over the summer. Perhaps in the January window if he stays fit. His injury record over the last 2-3 seasons is absolutely horrendous, and he's a bad knee injury away from retirement. Looks a great player, but no-one remotely sensible is going to gamble on him at this point. In terms of Helik, no doubt there'll be a few bids for him. We love him, but there's no getting past the fact that he's now been part of two relegated squads in the last three seasons. That won't go unnoticed and potential bidders will absolutely scrutinise his form before paying silly money. I wouldn't be surprised to see him still here at the start of 24-25. Sorba will go to one of the clubs promoted to the Championship, most likely Pompey. His stats, which are all important nowadays, tell their own story. Rudoni; again, clubs will consult the stats men and be told that his actual output is nigh on being negligible in terms of goals and assists versus games played. The first half hauling against Ipswich won't help him secure a transfer away, either. Agree with your post, except nowadays clubs don't really even look at goals and assists as stats they use to sign players, unless they have a very old-fashioned scouting department - they use highly complicated algorithms with things like 'expected goals' and 'expected assists' factored in. I am not an expert on the area, but I would recommend the book 'Football Hackers' - a really good read. |
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Post by rockwall on May 18, 2024 10:13:16 GMT 1
Personally I don't think Helik will go.
I was thinking earlier that in the last 3 seasons he has had 2 relegation to League 1 and a miracle great escape.
His mental strength must be shot.
He also didn't actively seek a move upon relegation with Barnsley.
I'd say that he would be more than happy to actually have a season (hopefully) of more wins than defeats.
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Post by goodbet on May 18, 2024 10:14:49 GMT 1
Gregory has gone to Mansfield, so no doubt we'll sign him after beating them in the PO Final. Last thing we need is a 33 yr old forward Our clublikes old past if forwards, we actually seem to collect them. |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 18, 2024 10:53:07 GMT 1
Reckon he is on alot more than that. Highest earner in the club apparently. 2 x that & the rest. Could be wrong. Naughty Warnock. apparently he was on 12k , then took a wage drop to stay , so is on a very low 7k a week now. he really is on the bread line, thats why he misses so many games "injured" has had to take on a second job you see. It’s very tough surviving on just £364,000 a year. When he (finally) retires, his second job cleaning toilets at the JSS, where others are taking the piss, will come in handy. |
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on May 18, 2024 10:59:40 GMT 1
apparently he was on 12k , then took a wage drop to stay , so is on a very low 7k a week now. he really is on the bread line, thats why he misses so many games "injured" has had to take on a second job you see. It’s very tough surviving on just £364,000 a year. When he (finally) retires, his second job cleaning toilets at the JSS, where others are taking the piss, will come in handy. He curled in one against Sheff U or was he moonlighting that night? |
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Post by melbourneterrier on May 18, 2024 11:00:01 GMT 1
No real surprised in that retained list.
Most surprising for me were Bellagambi and Ondo and but neither of them really cemented themselves in the first team
Rhodes, while may have been handy this season, seems to have enjoyed his time at Blackpool. I'd have a guess that his wage wouldn't have been the cheapest too.
Yuta has had a frustrating 2 years with injuries, and now a relegation. Given hes a Japanese international, League One isn't where he'd want to be plying his trade
Thank god we've got Mahoney off the books. What a waste of signing that was
Diarra, another I'm happy to see the back of. Seemed to have talent, but dissappeared out of the squad, and rumours of him being a 'bad egg'. Good bye fella!
Can't really comment much on Rowe, he started off well for us and just seemed to tail off.
Also happy to see the back of the loan signings, especially DB for obvious reasons.
Assuming Hogg does sign a new deal, I really hope it's more of the Whitehead mould, than being a primary starter.
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 18, 2024 11:07:31 GMT 1
It’s very tough surviving on just £364,000 a year. When he (finally) retires, his second job cleaning toilets at the JSS, where others are taking the piss, will come in handy. He curled in one against Sheff U or was he moonlighting that night? He’s great…when he wants to be bothered. |
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Post by Flowerdisco on May 18, 2024 11:14:59 GMT 1
Reckon he is on alot more than that. Highest earner in the club apparently. 2 x that & the rest. Could be wrong. Naughty Warnock. apparently he was on 12k , then took a wage drop to stay , so is on a very low 7k a week now. he really is on the bread line, thats why he misses so many games "injured" has had to take on a second job you see. I know for a fact he was on 14k a week years back when he was going through his purple patch. I never post rumours and this comes from a slip from a family member. |
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