cyberman
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Post by cyberman on May 18, 2024 11:19:31 GMT 1
He would as he doesn't seem to care mate, 7k a week on a 2 year contract. He doesn't need to play jsut be paid. Remember players are human beings, lips slip and when you don't care either way, as you have gaurnteed money and all that. Remember during his interviews this season alone, he has yawned his way through them , which tell you as much. Reckon he is on alot more than that. Highest earner in the club apparently. 2 x that & the rest. Could be wrong. Naughty Warnock. Fuck me thats a lot of balls - Golf variety - btw anyone know whats the most expensive golf ball you can buy ? |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 18, 2024 11:35:19 GMT 1
Reckon he is on alot more than that. Highest earner in the club apparently. 2 x that & the rest. Could be wrong. Naughty Warnock. Fuck me thats a lot of balls - Golf variety - btw anyone know whats the most expensive golf ball you can buy ? Ward will be playing Pro V1s guaranteed Probably gets given them |
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 18, 2024 12:06:17 GMT 1
apparently he was on 12k , then took a wage drop to stay , so is on a very low 7k a week now. he really is on the bread line, thats why he misses so many games "injured" has had to take on a second job you see. I know for a fact he was on 14k a week years back when he was going through his purple patch. I never post rumours and this comes from a slip from a family member. Well if true, doesn't that show how stupid our wage structure has being? Paying bang average footballers, who are injury prone that kinda dough! No wonder the lad hardly plays, getting that kinda money and keeps getting contracts for whatever reason.
If him and his agent had come to me and said "yeah danny wants 14k a week" my reponse would defooo had being " there is the door mate, see you later" .
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Post by Galpharmer on May 18, 2024 12:11:43 GMT 1
Fuck me thats a lot of balls - Golf variety - btw anyone know whats the most expensive golf ball you can buy ? Ward will be playing Pro V1s guaranteed Probably gets given them All footballers will play Pro V1s, without a doubt. Golfing snobbery. |
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Post by Mounie for nothing on May 18, 2024 12:13:58 GMT 1
Jason Davidson has entered the chat.... I don't recall him playing in the PL? Made his debut for West Brom in the PL |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 18, 2024 12:14:42 GMT 1
Ward will be playing Pro V1s guaranteed Probably gets given them All footballers will play Pro V1s, without a doubt. Golfing snobbery. I play with what I find. Kirkland seem to be very popular at our course |
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Post by Tiro on May 18, 2024 12:38:19 GMT 1
apparently he was on 12k , then took a wage drop to stay , so is on a very low 7k a week now. he really is on the bread line, thats why he misses so many games "injured" has had to take on a second job you see. It’s very tough surviving on just £364,000 a year. When he (finally) retires, his second job cleaning toilets at the JSS, where others are taking the piss, will come in handy. The point remains a valid one in isolation, but that’s before tax. He’s more likely to take home ~£210k of that as the rest will be tax. He likely retires before 40 and is unlikely to draw a salary even close to that for the rest of his life. This cash has to last him another 25 years min. Say we theoretically weighted his salary between the ages of 20 and 35 based on quoted figures on here, if he took an average of £5.5k p/w, ~£2.4m total post tax, and didn’t spend a penny of it, that would give him ~£1,700 per week until he’s 67. But the likelihood is he has spent cash, hopefully investing some of it wisely which will increase his capital, but he’s not likely to die at 67 and has dependents. I’m not making him out to be a pauper by any means and he will no doubt live out a very comfortable life. But I’m going so far to highlight why players salaries are inflated and in some instances, maybe not as inflated or overpaid as people perceive. |
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Post by rockwall on May 18, 2024 13:44:35 GMT 1
I don't recall him playing in the PL? Made his debut for West Brom in the PL I never knew that!! Some absolute stinkers that have got PL minutes. |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 18, 2024 13:49:06 GMT 1
It’s very tough surviving on just £364,000 a year. When he (finally) retires, his second job cleaning toilets at the JSS, where others are taking the piss, will come in handy. The point remains a valid one in isolation, but that’s before tax. He’s more likely to take home ~£210k of that as the rest will be tax. He likely retires before 40 and is unlikely to draw a salary even close to that for the rest of his life. This cash has to last him another 25 years min. Say we theoretically weighted his salary between the ages of 20 and 35 based on quoted figures on here, if he took an average of £5.5k p/w, ~£2.4m total post tax, and didn’t spend a penny of it, that would give him ~£1,700 per week until he’s 67. But the likelihood is he has spent cash, hopefully investing some of it wisely which will increase his capital, but he’s not likely to die at 67 and has dependents. I’m not making him out to be a pauper by any means and he will no doubt live out a very comfortable life. But I’m going so far to highlight why players salaries are inflated and in some instances, maybe not as inflated or overpaid as people perceive. Good points, but he’s still massively paid, and so are many other footballers, unlike the fans. It never used to be like this. Even stashing lots away he won’t be poor, if his head is screwed on the right way. Furthermore, if he’s been putting money into a pension plan, he can even draw upon it very early. It used to be age 35 (yes 35 not 55) in the 1990s, don’t know what it is these days. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on May 18, 2024 13:54:41 GMT 1
The point remains a valid one in isolation, but that’s before tax. He’s more likely to take home ~£210k of that as the rest will be tax. He likely retires before 40 and is unlikely to draw a salary even close to that for the rest of his life. This cash has to last him another 25 years min. Say we theoretically weighted his salary between the ages of 20 and 35 based on quoted figures on here, if he took an average of £5.5k p/w, ~£2.4m total post tax, and didn’t spend a penny of it, that would give him ~£1,700 per week until he’s 67. But the likelihood is he has spent cash, hopefully investing some of it wisely which will increase his capital, but he’s not likely to die at 67 and has dependents. I’m not making him out to be a pauper by any means and he will no doubt live out a very comfortable life. But I’m going so far to highlight why players salaries are inflated and in some instances, maybe not as inflated or overpaid as people perceive. Good points, but he’s still massively paid, and so are many other footballers, unlike the fans. It never used to be like this. Even stashing lots away he won’t be poor, if his head is screwed on the right way. Furthermore, if he’s been putting money into a pension plan, he can even draw upon it very early. It used to be age 35 (yes 35 not 55) in the 1990s, don’t know what it is these days. 57 for me 🙈 |
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Post by FloridaTerrier on May 18, 2024 14:12:39 GMT 1
Fuck me thats a lot of balls - Golf variety - btw anyone know whats the most expensive golf ball you can buy ? Ward will be playing Pro V1s guaranteed Probably gets given them LA Golf are most expensive commonly used ball. (I won't include Attomax. Who I've never seen anyone play). Titleist Pro V1 series are up there (Pro V1, Pro V1X, Pro V1x left dash, and Pro V1 left dot) Along with new Taylormades TP5 series as well as the new Calloway ChromeSoft series. Above are the most commonly used expensive balls. I'm extremely blessed that we have Pro V1 and Pro V1x range balls (with "Practice") printed on them at my club. |
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Post by Mounie for nothing on May 18, 2024 14:31:43 GMT 1
Made his debut for West Brom in the PL I never knew that!! Some absolute stinkers that have got PL minutes. To be fair he only played 30 minutes as sub, then had 1 other appearance before he bought his stupid top knot and wank attitude to grace us with 27 glorious performances. |
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Post by haskins on May 18, 2024 15:02:01 GMT 1
I think Helik was one of the ones who left in the fire sale when Duff took over so I’m not sure how much contact, if any, they would have had. I hope he can persuade him to stay though. Why a fire sale? I would have thought (and hoped) that if we were having a fire sale it would only be for any bad eggs that we may have and I don't think that helik would be seen as one of those. There was a fire sale at Barnsley when Duff took over and Helik went in that to Town therefore he (Duff) never got to manage Heliok at Barnsley. This was a response to an earlier point suggesting Duff had managed Helik at Barnsley. There is no suggestion of a fire sale at Town this close season, quite the opposite in fact. |
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Post by Terry Jacko on May 18, 2024 15:16:18 GMT 1
I think Helik was one of the ones who left in the fire sale when Duff took over so I’m not sure how much contact, if any, they would have had. I hope he can persuade him to stay though. Why a fire sale? I would have thought (and hoped) that if we were having a fire sale it would only be for any bad eggs that we may have and I don't think that helik would be seen as one of those. Jumping on board here so apologies if covered below, smart from Duff let people know they have to pay good money. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 18, 2024 15:22:39 GMT 1
Why a fire sale? I would have thought (and hoped) that if we were having a fire sale it would only be for any bad eggs that we may have and I don't think that helik would be seen as one of those. Jumping on board here so apologies if covered below, smart from Duff let people know they have to pay good money. If Helik and others are convinced its one season here and the extra they are offered to play it furthers that, then a fire sale wont be taking place here. Think we all need convincing its just going to be one season. If the owner and the management get it right, then there is a decent possibility of it being one season.?🤞 |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on May 18, 2024 16:07:06 GMT 1
I'd agree with that but we'll be lucky to shift Danny Ward. I think he'll try and see out his contract. Who will pay for a player who probably won't play more than 10 games a season? Perhaps Uncle Neil can find him a role at Torquay... |
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Post by Arbie 1976. on May 18, 2024 16:11:05 GMT 1
Good points, but he’s still massively paid, and so are many other footballers, unlike the fans. It never used to be like this. Even stashing lots away he won’t be poor, if his head is screwed on the right way. Furthermore, if he’s been putting money into a pension plan, he can even draw upon it very early. It used to be age 35 (yes 35 not 55) in the 1990s, don’t know what it is these days. 57 for me 🙈 having to make enough money to retire before 35 etc, My heart bleeds for them. Plan for the future, retrain, go work in BaQ. OH and don't forget the jobs for the boys. |
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Post by Flowerdisco on May 18, 2024 17:28:10 GMT 1
I know for a fact he was on 14k a week years back when he was going through his purple patch. I never post rumours and this comes from a slip from a family member. Well if true, doesn't that show how stupid our wage structure has being? Paying bang average footballers, who are injury prone that kinda dough! No wonder the lad hardly plays, getting that kinda money and keeps getting contracts for whatever reason.
If him and his agent had come to me and said "yeah danny wants 14k a week" my reponse would defooo had being " there is the door mate, see you later" .
I promise you that is 100% true and totally agree with the above |
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Post by irverino on May 20, 2024 13:34:49 GMT 1
35 year old Lucas Jutkiewicz has been offered a new contract at Birmingham City along with 37 year old keeper John Ruddy, Keshi Anderson receives a extension to his contract......Six players have been shipped out along with five on loan players, leaving a total of 30 in contract.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 28, 2024 18:38:33 GMT 1
Surprised we haven't heard on Hogg yet. He must have a decent offer on the table from elsewhere otherwise you'd have thought he would have snapped our hands off
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on May 28, 2024 18:45:13 GMT 1
Surprised we haven't heard on Hogg yet. He must have a decent offer on the table from elsewhere otherwise you'd have thought he would have snapped our hands off Contracts don't run out until 30th June & like most players, he's probably on his jollies. |
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Post by twyford on May 28, 2024 23:05:22 GMT 1
The point remains a valid one in isolation, but that’s before tax. He’s more likely to take home ~£210k of that as the rest will be tax. He likely retires before 40 and is unlikely to draw a salary even close to that for the rest of his life. This cash has to last him another 25 years min. Say we theoretically weighted his salary between the ages of 20 and 35 based on quoted figures on here, if he took an average of £5.5k p/w, ~£2.4m total post tax, and didn’t spend a penny of it, that would give him ~£1,700 per week until he’s 67. But the likelihood is he has spent cash, hopefully investing some of it wisely which will increase his capital, but he’s not likely to die at 67 and has dependents. I’m not making him out to be a pauper by any means and he will no doubt live out a very comfortable life. But I’m going so far to highlight why players salaries are inflated and in some instances, maybe not as inflated or overpaid as people perceive. Good points, but he’s still massively paid, and so are many other footballers, unlike the fans. It never used to be like this. Even stashing lots away he won’t be poor, if his head is screwed on the right way. Furthermore, if he’s been putting money into a pension plan, he can even draw upon it very early. It used to be age 35 (yes 35 not 55) in the 1990s, don’t know what it is these days.I believe it changed in the mid 2000s. Existing professional sports people in approved sports could protect their rights and remain eligible to draw at the earlier age if they wished. Anyone joining pension schemes after that point had to comply with the standard terms with initial access to funds at age 55, soon to be 57. Don't think Ward has been a professional long enough to have protected rights, but I could be mistaken. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 29, 2024 9:38:05 GMT 1
Surprised we haven't heard on Hogg yet. He must have a decent offer on the table from elsewhere otherwise you'd have thought he would have snapped our hands off Depends what he wants to do I'd have thought. Does he want to move into coaching or some other role behind the scenes, mentoring or such like? Does he want to play more regularly and willing to drop down to get it? Particularly if it's coaching, I'd have thought the framework would have to be put in place to fit around other coaches that Duff wants to bring in. Also, if the salary drop is bigger than he was expecting, that might have a bearing. I don't think the absence of a contract being signed at this stage tells us anything either way tbh. |
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Post by irverino on May 29, 2024 10:28:07 GMT 1
Surprised we haven't heard on Hogg yet. He must have a decent offer on the table from elsewhere otherwise you'd have thought he would have snapped our hands off Depends what he wants to do I'd have thought. Does he want to move into coaching or some other role behind the scenes, mentoring or such like? Does he want to play more regularly and willing to drop down to get it? Particularly if it's coaching, I'd have thought the framework would have to be put in place to fit around other coaches that Duff wants to bring in. Also, if the salary drop is bigger than he was expecting, that might have a bearing. I don't think the absence of a contract being signed at this stage tells us anything either way tbh. Maybe Port Vale have offered Hoggy a five year player/coach role.......Then he remembered who the manager is & said 'no thanks'. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 29, 2024 11:27:21 GMT 1
Depends what he wants to do I'd have thought. Does he want to move into coaching or some other role behind the scenes, mentoring or such like? Does he want to play more regularly and willing to drop down to get it? Particularly if it's coaching, I'd have thought the framework would have to be put in place to fit around other coaches that Duff wants to bring in. Also, if the salary drop is bigger than he was expecting, that might have a bearing. I don't think the absence of a contract being signed at this stage tells us anything either way tbh. Maybe Port Vale have offered Hoggy a five year player/coach role.......Then he remembered who the manager is & said 'no thanks'. He puts a bit too much focus on attacking & creating chances for their boss's liking. |
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Post by royrace on May 29, 2024 11:32:05 GMT 1
Surprised we haven't heard on Hogg yet. He must have a decent offer on the table from elsewhere otherwise you'd have thought he would have snapped our hands off Depends what he wants to do I'd have thought. Does he want to move into coaching or some other role behind the scenes, mentoring or such like? Does he want to play more regularly and willing to drop down to get it? Particularly if it's coaching, I'd have thought the framework would have to be put in place to fit around other coaches that Duff wants to bring in. Also, if the salary drop is bigger than he was expecting, that might have a bearing. I don't think the absence of a contract being signed at this stage tells us anything either way tbh. Difficult one to call, on the one hand I could see him fancying coaching, on the other I could see him dropping down the leagues and then retiring to run a fish farm near home. Really hoping he can give us another season whether he chooses to coach or not. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 29, 2024 13:00:11 GMT 1
Depends what he wants to do I'd have thought. Does he want to move into coaching or some other role behind the scenes, mentoring or such like? Does he want to play more regularly and willing to drop down to get it? Particularly if it's coaching, I'd have thought the framework would have to be put in place to fit around other coaches that Duff wants to bring in. Also, if the salary drop is bigger than he was expecting, that might have a bearing. I don't think the absence of a contract being signed at this stage tells us anything either way tbh. Difficult one to call, on the one hand I could see him fancying coaching, on the other I could see him dropping down the leagues and then retiring to run a fish farm near home. Really hoping he can give us another season whether he chooses to coach or not. I'd agree with all of that. Partly it'd be sad for a club legend to finish with a relegation. Mostly we'd benefit from his leadership and professionalism. A good example to have around the place, a good foil for a less experienced player in the side (e.g. in cup games) and a useful option to bring off the bench to see a game out. |
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Post by runner76 on Jul 2, 2024 12:33:31 GMT 1
So, as it stands for first team looks like we have only lost players who figured in any major way last season:
Jack Rudoni
Matos
Delano (well...mmm)
And we have gained two in :
Lasse and MM
Seems we still need minimum two in the midefield areas.....
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Post by Up the Duff. on Jul 2, 2024 12:55:36 GMT 1
So, as it stands for first team looks like we have only lost players who figured in any major way last season: Jack Rudoni Matos Delano (well...mmm) And we have gained two in : Lasse and MM Seems we still need minimum two in the midefield areas..... Yes and we are pretty sure Kane is one of them. We need to ship a fair number out yet as our squad needs a significant overhaul, even if that means some of our first team players from last season leaving (Koroma/Thomas). |
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Post by runner76 on Jul 2, 2024 13:52:45 GMT 1
So, as it stands for first team looks like we have only lost players who figured in any major way last season: Jack Rudoni Matos Delano (well...mmm) And we have gained two in : Lasse and MM Seems we still need minimum two in the midefield areas..... Yes and we are pretty sure Kane is one of them. We need to ship a fair number out yet as our squad needs a significant overhaul, even if that means some of our first team players from last season leaving (Koroma/Thomas). Agree. Can’t see Thomas / Koroma / Helik / Nichols sticking around if Champ clubs come knocking….. Reckon minimum 5 out and 5 needed in still! |
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