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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 21, 2024 15:10:19 GMT 1
@justasmithers... Given that Kevin is obviously a fan of history and legacy, has any thought been given to having heritage numbers on player kits? So forgive my ignorance: but do you retire numbers over there? We don't, no, though I believe Birmingham retired Jude Bellingham's number when he was sold to Dortmund, despite him hardly playing any games cos he was so young. |
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Post by Sparrow on Aug 21, 2024 15:20:29 GMT 1
The thing is, the moments of joy stay with you for decades, and can be relived and re-enjoyed..and easily outlast the moments of utter despair don't they... That Schindler penalty....winning 3-0 at Palace...beating Man utd, drawing away at Citeh and Chelsea......winning the Division 4 title under Buxton...the 2nd Division title with Ian Greaves... ...the relative rarity of our successes simply enhances the joy...so yes, you're 100% right. This is so true. When you recall these incredible highs, it’s not surprising that so many of us have taken our recent demise so hard. The pure emotion of the Schindler penalty- realisation that a lifetime of support has culminated in getting to the Premier League. To the pure unbridled joy, with everyone around you totally losing it , when Ince scored the late winner v Watford. These were incredible times and I’m sure we all appreciated it much more than any supporter of a Top 6 club. Now, at long last, it seems like everyone is back pulling in the same direction. When I saw the changes that had been made around the stadium I felt very proud of our club again. A truly brilliant moment that will live long in the memory Danny Ward's goal against Sheffield United is up there though as a moment in time memory for me, as it was the goal that kept us up under NW. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 21, 2024 15:20:58 GMT 1
@justasmithers... Given that Kevin is obviously a fan of history and legacy, has any thought been given to having heritage numbers on player kits? So forgive my ignorance: but do you retire numbers over there? At risk of interpreting what nearwildheaven is asking, I think they are talking about individual numbers, so if the player was to be the 567th player to play for Town, that would be their number and it would be stitched into their playing shirt. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Aug 21, 2024 15:28:22 GMT 1
To be honest, a legacy number system for a league club would be a huge undertaking. It’s mainly used in international teams where there is less turnover. This is the English football team. link |
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Post by ben1987 on Aug 21, 2024 15:37:46 GMT 1
Why is this not on town YouTube 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ Because it isn’t official Town communications. It’s just Kevin Nagles own comms. |
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Post by Sir Richard of the Green on Aug 21, 2024 15:44:18 GMT 1
Justasmithers seems to think that he is now an honorary Yorkshireman. However, he has yet to pass the ‘liking mushy peas with his fish and chips’ test or even ‘liking bits with his fish and chips’. He is nearly there though! I do love the informal and laid-back nature of the diaries and long may they continue. We are very lucky to have such an open, enthusiastic owner. UTT Man…if mushy peas is the gatekeeper, I’m in trouble! My apologies if the thought of mushy peas was too traumatic for you Justasmithers . I will cancel that and raise you a dripping teacake! |
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Post by mosher on Aug 21, 2024 15:44:42 GMT 1
To be honest, a legacy number system for a league club would be a huge undertaking. It’s mainly used in international teams where there is less turnover. This is the English football team. linkYou're right, it would be a huge undertaking for a league club. And is it just players who've actually made an appearance? Is it just players contracted to Town and loanees don't count? In the modern days of a squad number, do you count players who've been given a squad number but never actually turn out for the first team? Would keep someone VERY busy though doing the research, not sure I'd want the job  |
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Post by mosher on Aug 21, 2024 15:47:49 GMT 1
Man…if mushy peas is the gatekeeper, I’m in trouble! My apologies if the thought of mushy peas was too traumatic for you Justasmithers . I will cancel that and raise you a dripping teacake! If that's the gatekeeper for being a Yorkshireman I'd be knackered. Love mushy peas, but can only barely tolerate mucky fat and black pudding is disgusting; not so much the taste but the texture I find nauseating. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Aug 21, 2024 15:51:23 GMT 1
Mmmmmm, Mucky fat. Beautiful.
I wonder if the Americans have anything similar?
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 21, 2024 15:58:46 GMT 1
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Post by Sio on Aug 21, 2024 16:21:37 GMT 1
So forgive my ignorance: but do you retire numbers over there? Only usually if it's a VERY well-known or regarded player. And for tragic players, eg I believe one of Jordan Sinnott's clubs retired his number after he was murdered, it may have even been Town but I'm not 100% sure on that. Bit harsh on the lad |
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Post by incognito on Aug 21, 2024 16:30:35 GMT 1
So forgive my ignorance: but do you retire numbers over there? We don't, no, though I believe Birmingham retired Jude Bellingham's number when he was sold to Dortmund, despite him hardly playing any games cos he was so young. Adding to your comment for Justasmithers 's general info: The main reason that hasn't become a "thing" is because we only started using personalised squad numbers (and names) on shirts in 1999/2000. Historically, the starting numbers 1-11 belonged to the position rather than the player: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squad_number_(association_football)#EnglandEven as a 10 year old I noticed that Gary Barnett's shirt always looked enormous on him. 30+ years later I've finally realised that this was most likely because it had to be big enough to fit Iffy when required  |
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Post by Justasmithers on Aug 21, 2024 18:40:02 GMT 1
We don't, no, though I believe Birmingham retired Jude Bellingham's number when he was sold to Dortmund, despite him hardly playing any games cos he was so young. Adding to your comment for Justasmithers 's general info: The main reason that hasn't become a "thing" is because we only started using personalised squad numbers (and names) on shirts in 1999/2000. Historically, the starting numbers 1-11 belonged to the position rather than the player: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squad_number_(association_football)#EnglandEven as a 10 year old I noticed that Gary Barnett's shirt always looked enormous on him. 30+ years later I've finally realised that this was most likely because it had to be big enough to fit Iffy when required Ahhhh makes sense. Over here in baseball for example, Mickey Mantle wore #7. When he retired, they retired the number, so no Yankee can ever wear 7 again. Has become a common practice for the elite of the entire when they retire |
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Post by Wingman on Aug 21, 2024 18:42:03 GMT 1
Man…if mushy peas is the gatekeeper, I’m in trouble! My apologies if the thought of mushy peas was too traumatic for you Justasmithers . I will cancel that and raise you a dripping teacake! Mushy peas.  |
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Post by boon1984 on Aug 21, 2024 18:44:47 GMT 1
Adding to your comment for Justasmithers 's general info: The main reason that hasn't become a "thing" is because we only started using personalised squad numbers (and names) on shirts in 1999/2000. Historically, the starting numbers 1-11 belonged to the position rather than the player: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squad_number_(association_football)#EnglandAs others have alluded to, it’s starting happening in soccer too more recently. This Wikipedia entry is pretty good on the background and details: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_retired_numbers_in_association_footballEven as a 10 year old I noticed that Gary Barnett's shirt always looked enormous on him. 30+ years later I've finally realised that this was most likely because it had to be big enough to fit Iffy when required Ahhhh makes sense. Over here in baseball for example, Mickey Mantle wore #7. When he retired, they retired the number, so no Yankee can ever wear 7 again. Has become a common practice for the elite of the entire when they retire |
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Post by boon1984 on Aug 21, 2024 18:46:01 GMT 1
Ahhhh makes sense. Over here in baseball for example, Mickey Mantle wore #7. When he retired, they retired the number, so no Yankee can ever wear 7 again. Has become a common practice for the elite of the entire when they retire As others have alluded to, it’s starting happening in soccer too more recently. This Wikipedia entry is pretty good on the background and details: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_retired_numbers_in_association_football |
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Post by nearwildheaven on Aug 21, 2024 19:04:36 GMT 1
@justasmithers... Given that Kevin is obviously a fan of history and legacy, has any thought been given to having heritage numbers on player kits? So forgive my ignorance: but do you retire numbers over there? No,I'm more thinking that a player is the 568th player to play for town, so he gets a little 568 embroidered on his kit every time he plays |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Aug 21, 2024 19:08:51 GMT 1
So forgive my ignorance: but do you retire numbers over there? No,I'm more thinking that a player is the 568th player to play for town, so he gets a little 568 embroidered on his kit every time he plays Even the Yorkshire cricketers do that |
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Post by SacTown on Aug 21, 2024 19:09:11 GMT 1
Mmmmmm, Mucky fat. Beautiful. I wonder if the Americans have anything similar? About 20 million of them. |
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Post by shatterrier on Aug 21, 2024 19:31:20 GMT 1
Mmmmmm, Mucky fat. Beautiful. I wonder if the Americans have anything similar? Mucky fat, food of the gods. |
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Post by JG Mellor on Aug 21, 2024 20:35:21 GMT 1
The thing about becoming totally hooked on Town is you now expose yourself to all the pain, depression, anger, upset, anguish etc etc when things don't go well...like when we lose a game...for example. It's a heavy price for such dedication.. Would any of us change it for the tedium of constant mid-table a-la Charlton, or the ignominy of supporting Citeh or Saudi Utd? Or the arrogant big-bollocks of Wendy or L***s? There's times I wish my uncles hadn't drummed (beaten?) Town into me, but those times pass really quickly. God yes I would change it. All these years watching mainly dross because my old boy took me to Town games in the late 60s. I wish he'd been a Liverpool fan to be honest. What a different life I would have had. Too late now I'm afraid. UTMT. |
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Post by Justasmithers on Aug 21, 2024 20:59:15 GMT 1
Mmmmmm, Mucky fat. Beautiful. I wonder if the Americans have anything similar? Mucky fat, food of the gods. Is this why whenever I’m over I there I see those defibrillator machines everywhere? I think the closest we have to mucky fat is crisco, which we use to grease pans before baking |
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Post by shatterrier on Aug 21, 2024 21:08:22 GMT 1
Would any of us change it for the tedium of constant mid-table a-la Charlton, or the ignominy of supporting Citeh or Saudi Utd? Or the arrogant big-bollocks of Wendy or L***s? There's times I wish my uncles hadn't drummed (beaten?) Town into me, but those times pass really quickly. God yes I would change it. All these years watching mainly dross because my old boy took me to Town games in the late 60s. I wish he'd been a Liverpool fan to be honest. What a different life I would have had. Too late now I'm afraid. UTMT. Wouldn't change it for a second. Anyone who 'chooses' who to support doesn't get it. Dad was a town fan and he'd have been a hundred years old this year god rest his soul. Went to my first game at age 8, I'm 63, tomorrow as it happens. Took my lad to his first game when he was 4, he's 27 now. I've seen far more lows than highs, which makes the highs all the more special. It's a hereditary kind of thing. You can surely only be a Liverpool 'fan' in Dorset if your dad or grandad was born in Liverpool. UTT ALWAYS |
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Post by conman on Aug 21, 2024 21:21:39 GMT 1
Mucky fat, food of the gods. Is this why whenever I’m over I there I see those defibrillator machines everywhere? I think the closest we have to mucky fat is crisco, which we use to grease pans before baking The defibrillator machine is the sign of a butchers shop , similar to a barbers stripey pole.. |
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Post by Rigodon on Aug 21, 2024 21:23:22 GMT 1
Mucky fat, food of the gods. Is this why whenever I’m over I there I see those defibrillator machines everywhere? I think the closest we have to mucky fat is crisco, which we use to grease pans before baking Aye.. We've got the same issue with fatties heart disease you have - that and shit food is absolutely transatlantic |
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Post by westislandterrier on Aug 21, 2024 21:29:51 GMT 1
Apparently revenues from replica shirts etc are at our Premier League levels. I can absolutely believe that as the quality that Luke and his team at The HTAFC Superstore design is pretty awesome indeed... How do I know this ? Well lots n’ lots of folks (up here in Bonnie Scotland anyway) constantly tell me that the gear looks, classy, cool, groovy, smart and well beautiful... And my Rab C. Nesbitt beer belly certainly ain’t the most heavenly body to be modelling it for sure - So it’s definitely HTAFC doing something right for sure ! 👍 |
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Post by conman on Aug 21, 2024 21:30:03 GMT 1
My apologies if the thought of mushy peas was too traumatic for you Justasmithers . I will cancel that and raise you a dripping teacake! If that's the gatekeeper for being a Yorkshireman I'd be knackered. Love mushy peas, but can only barely tolerate mucky fat and black pudding is disgusting; not so much the taste but the texture I find nauseating. pork dripping and black pudding are the perfect match . On a works lads do one year at golcar cricket club (bottomless beer and buffet), there was a huge plate of black pudding on drip teacakes. Over the space of the whole day I probably devoured 75% of them , it ended up very very messy.. For a few days after as well. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 21, 2024 21:34:09 GMT 1
The thing about becoming totally hooked on Town is you now expose yourself to all the pain, depression, anger, upset, anguish etc etc when things don't go well...like when we lose a game...for example. It's a heavy price for such dedication.. Would any of us change it for the tedium of constant mid-table a-la Charlton, or the ignominy of supporting Citeh or Saudi Utd? Or the arrogant big-bollocks of Wendy or L***s? There's times I wish my uncles hadn't drummed (beaten?) Town into me, but those times pass really quickly. Bit harsh on Charlton Mosher. The rest of the stuff. Been saying for years that supporters of the ‘elite’ clubs must find it difficult to feel real emotion when a bad season for them would be only reaching a final or semi-final. I’d imagine there are still a few Man C supporters who look back more fondly on their L1 play off triumph than they do on some of their recent successes. |
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Post by nnnlove on Aug 21, 2024 21:35:41 GMT 1
Mucky fat, food of the gods. Is this why whenever I’m over I there I see those defibrillator machines everywhere? I think the closest we have to mucky fat is crisco, which we use to grease pans before baking You should venture up to Scotland - what they do with a pizza ought to be a criminal offence! Deep-fried Mars Bars are lovely, though - I won't hear a word said against them. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 21, 2024 21:42:04 GMT 1
Is this why whenever I’m over I there I see those defibrillator machines everywhere? I think the closest we have to mucky fat is crisco, which we use to grease pans before baking You should venture up to Scotland - what they do with a pizza ought to be a criminal offence! Deep-fried Mars Bars are lovely, though - I won't hear a word said against them. I can recommend a drive past the Tunnocks factory at night as well… |
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