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Post by stevehtfc on Aug 4, 2024 8:38:35 GMT 1
Can anyone explain to me why Rotherham are bigger favourites for promotion than Town? I assume it's linked to the fact that we don't have a decent striker and they do. It's disappointing with 1 week to go that we still haven't resolved this rather basic problem once again. We really should be bigger favourites than the likes of Rotherham. Nombe n Clark Harris up front that's why. We have the deadly Harrett and Ward |
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Aug 4, 2024 8:53:16 GMT 1
Can anyone explain to me why Rotherham are bigger favourites for promotion than Town? I assume it's linked to the fact that we don't have a decent striker and they do. It's disappointing with 1 week to go that we still haven't resolved this rather basic problem once again. We really should be bigger favourites than the likes of Rotherham. Nombe n Clark Harris up front that's why. We have the deadly Harrett and Ward Yep, fully aware Rotherham have Clarke-Harris up front who, after Alfie May, (another player we missed out on) is the favourite for League 1 top scorer. My real question is why aren't we able to get a decent striker? How are Rotherham able to acquire one, on a free as well, and we're not. I like a lot of our signings, don't get me wrong, but we didn't get one in the one area we needed. Maybe Healey can surprise us all but I'm not hopeful. |
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Post by ram on Aug 4, 2024 9:59:36 GMT 1
It.s OK folks.Nagle says we are having 2 and promotion is the objective {Fuck Rotherham and the rest of em} If we don,t go up this season I will laugh my cock off {in disMAY} after all at my age I only use it for pissing out of.  |
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Post by uptownfunk on Aug 4, 2024 9:59:37 GMT 1
Crazy to think Des Hamilton was once called up to the England U21 squad. TBF he was a talented footballer. Just didn't click here. How much of that was due to him being a Bradford lad I'm not sure... Des Hamilton played for Golcar United, many many moons ago. He never gave the ball away once. I know cos I was playing! Too guy was Des. Nowhere near Town’s worst ever players. Aaron hardy. Williams on loan from Weds. anton Robinson.. Naysmith. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 4, 2024 10:24:58 GMT 1
TBF he was a talented footballer. Just didn't click here. How much of that was due to him being a Bradford lad I'm not sure... Des Hamilton played for Golcar United, many many moons ago. He never gave the ball away once. I know cos I was playing! Too guy was Des. Nowhere near Town’s worst ever players. Aaron hardy. Williams on loan from Weds. anton Robinson.. Naysmith. Never said he wasn't a top guy. Never met him, he may well have been. He was shite for Town though. I thought Adam Hamill and Danny Simpson were decent for town. No way were they in the worst footballers I've seen. Horrible human beings though. |
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Post by ezzie on Aug 4, 2024 10:32:33 GMT 1
We don’t have a strike force. End of thread
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Post by stevehtfc on Aug 4, 2024 10:46:41 GMT 1
Nombe n Clark Harris up front that's why. We have the deadly Harrett and Ward Yep, fully aware Rotherham have Clarke-Harris up front who, after Alfie May, (another player we missed out on) is the favourite for League 1 top scorer. My real question is why aren't we able to get a decent striker? How are Rotherham able to acquire one, on a free as well, and we're not. I like a lot of our signings, don't get me wrong, but we didn't get one in the one area we needed. Maybe Healey can surprise us all but I'm not hopeful. Clarke Harris has history at Rotherham. May went for money and let's be honest Birmingham are bigger than us. |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 4, 2024 10:55:08 GMT 1
Dominic Werling to come on as late sub to help us hold on to a 1 0 lead. If you think we'd have a 1-0 lead with that team, you haven't understood the post. I do get it but Werlings only appearance from memory was a match we were having on to a slender lead |
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Post by JonsonClarkParis on Aug 4, 2024 11:48:46 GMT 1
This area of the pitch could make or break our season now tbh
I really don’t think the saints youngsters is the answer either
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Post by uptownfunk on Aug 4, 2024 12:24:57 GMT 1
Des Hamilton played for Golcar United, many many moons ago. He never gave the ball away once. I know cos I was playing! Too guy was Des. Nowhere near Town’s worst ever players. Aaron hardy. Williams on loan from Weds. anton Robinson.. Naysmith. Never said he wasn't a top guy. Never met him, he may well have been. He was shite for Town though. I thought Adam Hamill and Danny Simpson were decent for town. No way were they in the worst footballers I've seen. Horrible human beings though. No reference to personality in terms of ability. Merely a comment as he was sounds that day. He wasn’t one of Towns worst players either. |
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Post by stevehtfc on Aug 4, 2024 12:25:23 GMT 1
This area of the pitch could make or break our season now tbh I really don’t think the saints youngsters is the answer either I'm hoping Healey and Koroma can bang goals in and bring Phillips back who can do a good job at this level. Ward can be 4th choice seen as I can't see him leaving Sell Hudlin... Can't see Harrett getting a transfer with his bad disciplinary and never made his mark on his loan moves. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Aug 4, 2024 12:25:37 GMT 1
Diakhaby was woeful.
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Post by blackcat on Aug 4, 2024 12:32:48 GMT 1
Is there still a chance Joe Taylor will join you on loan or has that rumour been quashed?
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Post by Jimuano on Aug 4, 2024 12:35:29 GMT 1
Des Hamilton played for Golcar United, many many moons ago. He never gave the ball away once. I know cos I was playing! Too guy was Des. Nowhere near Town’s worst ever players. Aaron hardy. Williams on loan from Weds. anton Robinson.. Naysmith. Never said he wasn't a top guy. Never met him, he may well have been. He was shite for Town though. I thought Adam Hamill and Danny Simpson were decent for town. No way were they in the worst footballers I've seen. Horrible human beings though. Similar to some very famous and successful rock stars (Bowie, Antony Kiedis, Jimmy Page, Steven Tyler to name but a few) who are generally thought by the masses to be good song writers/ have half decent portfolios of songs, but are/were extremely awful people. |
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Post by Wingman on Aug 4, 2024 12:39:05 GMT 1
This area of the pitch could make or break our season now tbh I really don’t think the saints youngsters is the answer either I'm hoping Healey and Koroma can bang goals in and bring Phillips back who can do a good job at this level. Ward can be 4th choice seen as I can't see him leaving Sell Hudlin... Can't see Harrett getting a transfer with his bad disciplinary and never made his mark on his loan moves. Agree that Hudlin needs to go, but Phillips isn’t the answer. He simply isn’t good enough and again we seem to be holding onto him for some unknown reason, as we are with High, Austerfield, etc. Why do we do this? Time he was moved on. Hudlin, Ward, Phillips, even Harratt, they aren’t the answers to our striking problems. A loan kid from Southampton isn’t either but if he comes in let’s see how he goes. It’s an area we needed to really set out stall out and we haven’t for years. Town are simply not ruthless up front on or off the pitch. |
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Aug 4, 2024 12:58:37 GMT 1
Never said he wasn't a top guy. Never met him, he may well have been. He was shite for Town though. I thought Adam Hamill and Danny Simpson were decent for town. No way were they in the worst footballers I've seen. Horrible human beings though. Similar to some very famous and successful rock stars (Bowie, Antony Kiedis, Jimmy Page, Steven Tyler to name but a few) who are generally thought by the masses to be good song writers/ have half decent portfolios of songs, but are/were extremely awful people. Why was Bowie an extremely awful person? |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 4, 2024 12:59:42 GMT 1
Similar to some very famous and successful rock stars (Bowie, Antony Kiedis, Jimmy Page, Steven Tyler to name but a few) who are generally thought by the masses to be good song writers/ have half decent portfolios of songs, but are/were extremely awful people. Was Bowie an extremely awful person? During his drug-fuelled years, I believe he was. Took a keen interest in Nazism at one point. Think he mellowed as he got older and sober. |
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Post by Jimuano on Aug 4, 2024 13:01:21 GMT 1
Similar to some very famous and successful rock stars (Bowie, Antony Kiedis, Jimmy Page, Steven Tyler to name but a few) who are generally thought by the masses to be good song writers/ have half decent portfolios of songs, but are/were extremely awful people. Why was Bowie an extremely awful person? shady sexual history with underaged, same as the others listed |
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Aug 4, 2024 13:06:35 GMT 1
Oh no. Not good to hear stuff like that about your Heroes.
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Post by ezzie on Aug 4, 2024 13:07:20 GMT 1
I'm hoping Healey and Koroma can bang goals in and bring Phillips back who can do a good job at this level. Ward can be 4th choice seen as I can't see him leaving Sell Hudlin... Can't see Harrett getting a transfer with his bad disciplinary and never made his mark on his loan moves. Agree that Hudlin needs to go, but Phillips isn’t the answer. He simply isn’t good enough and again we seem to be holding onto him for some unknown reason, as we are with High, Austerfield, etc. Why do we do this? Time he was moved on. Hudlin, Ward, Phillips, even Harratt, they aren’t the answers to our striking problems. A loan kid from Southampton isn’t either but if he comes in let’s see how he goes. It’s an area we needed to really set out stall out and we haven’t for years. Town are simply not ruthless up front on or off the pitch. Precisely this. How people can still genuinely say “oh we can’t be dropped £2m on an ST, don’t be silly”… seriously need to get a grip it’s pathetic. I cannot remember the last decent striker we had, and it definitely wasn’t Mounie either. Wells/Grant? That we actually paid a good fee for… Not sure if it’s still in the works but go and give Luton what they want under a few million for Taylor. Serious money needs to be spent up front. We’ve been NHS’d up top for years. We had/have? Sights set on autos as Nagle said himself yet we’re 6 days away from Peterborough with 1 ‘quality’ striker, and less than £~850k spent on additions in 2+ months. Brum have already seen May’s contribution in preseason IIRC, he’s scored 4/5+ goals and they love him already. It’s almost like buying proven quality costs, but you get what you pay for? Can’t believe people think Ballard is the answer, maybe he’ll be a world beater and I’ll look very silly, but he’s had limited game time and has JUST come back from a horrible injury… worrying. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Aug 4, 2024 13:10:21 GMT 1
Was Bowie an extremely awful person? During his drug-fuelled years, I believe he was. Took a keen interest in Nazism at one point. Thin he mellowed as he got older and sober. I never liked him. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Aug 4, 2024 13:12:38 GMT 1
Agree that Hudlin needs to go, but Phillips isn’t the answer. He simply isn’t good enough and again we seem to be holding onto him for some unknown reason, as we are with High, Austerfield, etc. Why do we do this? Time he was moved on. Hudlin, Ward, Phillips, even Harratt, they aren’t the answers to our striking problems. A loan kid from Southampton isn’t either but if he comes in let’s see how he goes. It’s an area we needed to really set out stall out and we haven’t for years. Town are simply not ruthless up front on or off the pitch. Precisely this. How people can still genuinely say “oh we can’t be dropped £2m on an ST, don’t be silly”… seriously need to get a grip it’s pathetic. I cannot remember the last decent striker we had, and it definitely wasn’t Mounie either. Wells/Grant? That we actually paid a good fee for… Not sure if it’s still in the works but go and give Luton what they want under a few million for Taylor. Serious money needs to be spent up front. We’ve been NHS’d up top for years. We had/have? Sights set on autos as Nagle said himself yet we’re 6 days away from Peterborough with 1 ‘quality’ striker, and less than £~850k spent on additions in 2+ months. Brum have already seen May’s contribution in preseason IIRC, he’s scored 4/5+ goals and they love him already. It’s almost like buying proven quality costs, but you get what you pay for? Can’t believe people think Ballard is the answer, maybe he’ll be a world beater and I’ll look very silly, but he’s had limited game time and has JUST come back from a horrible injury… worrying. You don’t always get quality if you do spend money, but to get quality and prolific goalscorer you have to spend money. |
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Post by blackcat on Aug 4, 2024 13:14:15 GMT 1
Agree that Hudlin needs to go, but Phillips isn’t the answer. He simply isn’t good enough and again we seem to be holding onto him for some unknown reason, as we are with High, Austerfield, etc. Why do we do this? Time he was moved on. Hudlin, Ward, Phillips, even Harratt, they aren’t the answers to our striking problems. A loan kid from Southampton isn’t either but if he comes in let’s see how he goes. It’s an area we needed to really set out stall out and we haven’t for years. Town are simply not ruthless up front on or off the pitch. Precisely this. How people can still genuinely say “oh we can’t be dropped £2m on an ST, don’t be silly”… seriously need to get a grip it’s pathetic. I cannot remember the last decent striker we had, and it definitely wasn’t Mounie either. Wells/Grant? That we actually paid a good fee for… Not sure if it’s still in the works but go and give Luton what they want under a few million for Taylor. Serious money needs to be spent up front. We’ve been NHS’d up top for years. We had/have? Sights set on autos as Nagle said himself yet we’re 6 days away from Peterborough with 1 ‘quality’ striker, and less than £~850k spent on additions in 2+ months. Brum have already seen May’s contribution in preseason IIRC, he’s scored 4/5+ goals and they love him already. It’s almost like buying proven quality costs, but you get what you pay for? Can’t believe people think Ballard is the answer, maybe he’ll be a world beater and I’ll look very silly, but he’s had limited game time and has JUST come back from a horrible injury… worrying. There seems to be a trend for loans with obligations to buy these days. Taking Taylor on loan with an agreed fee providing Huddersfield are promoted might be possible. But then again Luton may well not want to lose Taylor all together so a season-long loan could be more attractive to The Hatters. |
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Post by Wingman on Aug 4, 2024 13:30:54 GMT 1
Precisely this. How people can still genuinely say “oh we can’t be dropped £2m on an ST, don’t be silly”… seriously need to get a grip it’s pathetic. I cannot remember the last decent striker we had, and it definitely wasn’t Mounie either. Wells/Grant? That we actually paid a good fee for… Not sure if it’s still in the works but go and give Luton what they want under a few million for Taylor. Serious money needs to be spent up front. We’ve been NHS’d up top for years. We had/have? Sights set on autos as Nagle said himself yet we’re 6 days away from Peterborough with 1 ‘quality’ striker, and less than £~850k spent on additions in 2+ months. Brum have already seen May’s contribution in preseason IIRC, he’s scored 4/5+ goals and they love him already. It’s almost like buying proven quality costs, but you get what you pay for? Can’t believe people think Ballard is the answer, maybe he’ll be a world beater and I’ll look very silly, but he’s had limited game time and has JUST come back from a horrible injury… worrying. There seems to be a trend for loans with obligations to buy these days. Taking Taylor on loan with an agreed fee providing Huddersfield are promoted might be possible. But then again Luton may well not want to lose Taylor all together so a season-long loan could be more attractive to The Hatters. Agree here. A season long loan with an option to buy at £X in League One or £X in the Championship is a good way to go. Similar to Sorba Thomas’ deal I guess. We need someone this week. A point at Peterborough wouldn’t be a bad start but a win would be a real indicator for us, and a new lad up top would boost those chances. |
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Post by goodbet on Aug 4, 2024 13:42:03 GMT 1
Nombe n Clark Harris up front that's why. We have the deadly Harrett and Ward Yep, fully aware Rotherham have Clarke-Harris up front who, after Alfie May, (another player we missed out on) is the favourite for League 1 top scorer. My real question is why aren't we able to get a decent striker? How are Rotherham able to acquire one, on a free as well, and we're not. I like a lot of our signings, don't get me wrong, but we didn't get one in the one area we needed. Maybe Healey can surprise us all but I'm not hopeful. We have been looking for a decent striker before we resigned Ward and Rhodes but we seem to lack the bottle to buy a decent one. |
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Post by Ox Terrier on Aug 4, 2024 14:04:51 GMT 1
Setting the objective as ‘promotion’ but not paying for proven quality appears daft. They’re setting themselves up for failure OR just taking the piss by saying what they think we want to hear. With the squad we’ve got at the moment, despite the decent signings made, our squad isn’t good enough for promotion. Pay a decent striker, or two, a competitive salary for their proven goal scoring ability and it’s a different story. It’ll be interesting to see what happens before the window shuts as it’ll give a good indication as to how committed KN is to actually going for promotion or whether he’s comfortable hanging around in L1 for another decade.
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Post by Wingman on Aug 4, 2024 15:31:58 GMT 1
Setting the objective as ‘promotion’ but not paying for proven quality appears daft. They’re setting themselves up for failure OR just taking the piss by saying what they think we want to hear. With the squad we’ve got at the moment, despite the decent signings made, our squad isn’t good enough for promotion. Pay a decent striker, or two, a competitive salary for their proven goal scoring ability and it’s a different story. It’ll be interesting to see what happens before the window shuts as it’ll give a good indication as to how committed KN is to actually going for promotion or whether he’s comfortable hanging around in L1 for another decade. If I understand previous video's etc correctly, there is funding for players, but Nagle doesn't scout them or move on the deals. The lack of a striker is down to the scouting network and Cartwright. He should have been able to source other options that fit Duff's system beyond Alfie May. I could boot up Football Manager 2020 and scout strikers to fit this system! |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 4, 2024 15:55:54 GMT 1
Yep, fully aware Rotherham have Clarke-Harris up front who, after Alfie May, (another player we missed out on) is the favourite for League 1 top scorer. My real question is why aren't we able to get a decent striker? How are Rotherham able to acquire one, on a free as well, and we're not. I like a lot of our signings, don't get me wrong, but we didn't get one in the one area we needed. Maybe Healey can surprise us all but I'm not hopeful. We have been looking for a decent striker before we resigned Ward and Rhodes but we seem to lack the bottle to buy a decent one. The club basically blamed Warnock for last season's summer window shambles. If we don't sign a forward this time around, then there is no-one to blame but themselves. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 4, 2024 16:03:28 GMT 1
Setting the objective as ‘promotion’ but not paying for proven quality appears daft. They’re setting themselves up for failure OR just taking the piss by saying what they think we want to hear. With the squad we’ve got at the moment, despite the decent signings made, our squad isn’t good enough for promotion. Pay a decent striker, or two, a competitive salary for their proven goal scoring ability and it’s a different story. It’ll be interesting to see what happens before the window shuts as it’ll give a good indication as to how committed KN is to actually going for promotion or whether he’s comfortable hanging around in L1 for another decade. If I understand previous video's etc correctly, there is funding for players, but Nagle doesn't scout them or move on the deals. The lack of a striker is down to the scouting network and Cartwright. He should have been able to source other options that fit Duff's system beyond Alfie May. I could boot up Football Manager 2020 and scout strikers to fit this system! Do we actually have a scouting system? |
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Post by goodbet on Aug 4, 2024 16:46:12 GMT 1
Setting the objective as ‘promotion’ but not paying for proven quality appears daft. They’re setting themselves up for failure OR just taking the piss by saying what they think we want to hear. With the squad we’ve got at the moment, despite the decent signings made, our squad isn’t good enough for promotion. Pay a decent striker, or two, a competitive salary for their proven goal scoring ability and it’s a different story. It’ll be interesting to see what happens before the window shuts as it’ll give a good indication as to how committed KN is to actually going for promotion or whether he’s comfortable hanging around in L1 for another decade. If I understand previous video's etc correctly, there is funding for players, but Nagle doesn't scout them or move on the deals. The lack of a striker is down to the scouting network and Cartwright. He should have been able to source other options that fit Duff's system beyond Alfie May. I could boot up Football Manager 2020 and scout strikers to fit this system! Maybe we have employed someone who is Computer illiterate? |
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