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Post by sapphireblue on Aug 17, 2024 21:21:49 GMT 1
Nope. Was given against Spencer. Holding, and the players momentum made it look spectacular as he twisted. Had it been Nicholls he would have been dismissed. Why would Nicholls have been sent off if he'd done whatever it was that Spencer did, given Spencer didn't get booked? 🤔 Seriously, do you not know the laws of the game?
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Post by westislandterrier on Aug 17, 2024 21:24:26 GMT 1
Aye - Greetings All - From the high seas between The West Island and The Scottish Mainland bedecked in a HTAFC 1908 T- shirt for all the tourists to see ! 😉
Happy Happy with today’s result and a win in what’d have been a dropped two points last season -
But one concern - HTAFC are still losing goals in 90 + whatever the injury time may be...
It seems to be a habit that’s been happening since 19-Canteen and while we got away with it today on another Saturday we might well not get away with it...
Something to be working on Micheal & Co. ! 👨🎓
Anyway - Got old mama mia taping the highlights in Connel for me and will watch after arrival in Connel at 12.10am all things being well !
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Post by detox on Aug 17, 2024 21:26:59 GMT 1
what was the attendance today? Gate....
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Post by 28901 on Aug 17, 2024 21:41:01 GMT 1
Well I've seen it a few times and still have absolutely no idea why that bald prick gave Stevenage a penalty. Imagine if it was only 1 0 at the time? Penalty all day long. 2 reasons to give it. Spencer holding Nicholls going through their man. Nicholls played tha ball You can't stop mid dive Apparently, I've since read, he gave it for Spencer holding. If that's a penalty there's half a dozen penalties every corner.
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Post by 28901 on Aug 17, 2024 21:41:40 GMT 1
what was the attendance today? Gate.... 18k laughably Maybe 13500
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Post by BlueValour on Aug 17, 2024 22:07:36 GMT 1
All official attendances are works of fiction!! The clubs add the number of walk-ups to the number of season card holders (whether they are there or not!).
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Post by gledholt terrier on Aug 17, 2024 22:08:23 GMT 1
All official attendances are works of fiction!! The clubs add the number of walk-ups to the number of season card holders (whether they are there or not!). 4,000 walk ups today, which is very encouraging.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 17, 2024 22:09:37 GMT 1
All official attendances are works of fiction!! The clubs add the number of walk-ups to the number of season card holders (whether they are there or not!). The crowd did actually look accuratish today to be fair.
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 17, 2024 22:11:03 GMT 1
Why would Nicholls have been sent off if he'd done whatever it was that Spencer did, given Spencer didn't get booked? 🤔 Seriously, do you not know the laws of the game? I asked the question, enlighten me. An outfield player commits an offence that a referee awards a penalty for and doesn't sanction the player with a card, but if a keeper commits the exact same offence you're saying he WOULD be carded and sent off for a second yellow?? What law is that, the boundaries for what constitutes a yellow card don't change between keepers and outfield players as far as I'm aware 🤷♂️
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Post by 28901 on Aug 17, 2024 22:16:26 GMT 1
All official attendances are works of fiction!! The clubs add the number of walk-ups to the number of season card holders (whether they are there or not!). I am aware of that policy. Todays match had virtually no away fans and apparently out of 15k season ticket holders, every single one turned up (in the summer holidays to boot), and an extra 3k paid in to see the mighty Stevenage? It's laughable. Though it was better than many games last season.
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Post by andyeastleake on Aug 17, 2024 22:20:08 GMT 1
what was the attendance today? 18,529 No that was the gate. Doubt we'll ever learn the attendance.
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Post by rockwall on Aug 17, 2024 22:33:03 GMT 1
Penalty all day long. 2 reasons to give it. Spencer holding Nicholls going through their man. Nicholls played tha ball You can't stop mid dive Apparently, I've since read, he gave it for Spencer holding. If that's a penalty there's half a dozen penalties every corner. Playing the ball but going through the man is a foul.
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Post by jakeg on Aug 17, 2024 22:37:18 GMT 1
No that was the gate. Doubt we'll ever learn the attendance. Whatever the actual number turning up.on the day I thought it looked pretty impressive given the relegation and it's still the summer hols. Work in progress so far I think. Good first half.. patterns of play and understanding between players definitely promising. Dropped off it second half and let them in with more of a sniff than they deserved. Need to be more ruthless when on top....many times in the championship it can be about the opposition quality coming together rather than always about us doing less well. In this league....and this isn't being arrogant but realistic....there will be games that we simply shouldn't give them hope after getting in front. There's good teams in the league but also some that we need to impose ourselves on and the second half today was us dropping levels....not about them suddenly getting better. But really happy....three straight wins....just what we needed to do so we get the optimism flowing
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Post by pterrier on Aug 17, 2024 22:46:30 GMT 1
No that was the gate. Doubt we'll ever learn the attendance. At least we aren’t in the realms of Bradford city who base attendances off free giveaways (including the thousands of season tickets that they literally give away - they’ll be handing them out at food banks next) and whenever you see the crowd there’s barely anyone there!
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 17, 2024 22:50:05 GMT 1
No that was the gate. Doubt we'll ever learn the attendance. Just like every other team then. It's been like this for years now, infact we were one of the last teams in England to announce the actual attendance.
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Post by rockwall on Aug 17, 2024 22:57:04 GMT 1
The main difference I have seen is how better we look with two actual wing back in Miller and Sorenson.
Opinions of Sorba differ on here, but I don't see where he would fit.
As much as they are good squad members I don't see where Ruffels and Turton fit in.
I get Ruffels can play LWB but with Miller and Headley, his game time will be limited.
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Post by detox on Aug 17, 2024 23:04:53 GMT 1
All official attendances are works of fiction!! The clubs add the number of walk-ups to the number of season card holders (whether they are there or not!). Years now we've explained the difference between gate and attendance. They're not the same thing. How hard is it to understand??
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Post by BlueValour on Aug 17, 2024 23:05:49 GMT 1
Penalty all day long. 2 reasons to give it. Spencer holding Nicholls going through their man. Nicholls played tha ball You can't stop mid dive Apparently, I've since read, he gave it for Spencer holding. If that's a penalty there's half a dozen penalties every corner. The ref clearly signalled it was for holding. Spencer had his arms round the attacker and spun him to the ground, right in front of the ref! It doesn't matter if that happens regularly it's a penalty if the ref chooses to give it! The lesson for Spencer is to shield his man and not so obviously grapple him down.
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Post by nicovaesen on Aug 17, 2024 23:08:39 GMT 1
Nicholls played tha ball You can't stop mid dive Apparently, I've since read, he gave it for Spencer holding. If that's a penalty there's half a dozen penalties every corner. The ref clearly signalled it was for holding. Spencer had his arms round the attacker and spun him to the ground, right in front of the ref! It doesn't matter if that happens regularly it's a penalty if the ref chooses to give it! The lesson for Spencer is to shield his man and not so obviously grapple him down. Weird that he chose to give it then though and has a a by red ever given a penalty for what you claim to happen at every corner tussle?
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Post by nicovaesen on Aug 17, 2024 23:09:38 GMT 1
Being a cynical bastard but how many bets were at 2-1 town? Just saying.
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Post by 28901 on Aug 17, 2024 23:11:02 GMT 1
Nicholls played tha ball You can't stop mid dive Apparently, I've since read, he gave it for Spencer holding. If that's a penalty there's half a dozen penalties every corner. The ref clearly signalled it was for holding. Spencer had his arms round the attacker and spun him to the ground, right in front of the ref! It doesn't matter if that happens regularly it's a penalty if the ref chooses to give it! The lesson for Spencer is to shield his man and not so obviously grapple him down. I concede. I can't see that on my phone and I didn't see it in real time in the ground. However I will say not one Stevenage player appealed, and none round were I was knew why it was given. Most seemed to think it was a foul against Nicholls.
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Post by sapphireblue on Aug 17, 2024 23:14:42 GMT 1
Seriously, do you not know the laws of the game? I asked the question, enlighten me. An outfield player commits an offence that a referee awards a penalty for and doesn't sanction the player with a card, but if a keeper commits the exact same offence you're saying he WOULD be carded and sent off for a second yellow?? What law is that, the boundaries for what constitutes a yellow card don't change between keepers and outfield players as far as I'm aware 🤷♂️ It would not have been the exact same offence.
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Post by sallycinnamon on Aug 17, 2024 23:16:26 GMT 1
The ref clearly signalled it was for holding. Spencer had his arms round the attacker and spun him to the ground, right in front of the ref! It doesn't matter if that happens regularly it's a penalty if the ref chooses to give it! The lesson for Spencer is to shield his man and not so obviously grapple him down. I concede. I can't see that on my phone and I didn't see it in real time in the ground. However I will say not one Stevenage player appealed, and none round were I was knew why it was given. Most seemed to think it was a foul against Nicholls. Two of their players appealed - the lad who was fouled (James-Wildin) and their number 5 - Piergianni. Still a soft pen though in my opinion.
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 17, 2024 23:35:11 GMT 1
Nicholls played tha ball You can't stop mid dive Apparently, I've since read, he gave it for Spencer holding. If that's a penalty there's half a dozen penalties every corner. The ref clearly signalled it was for holding. Spencer had his arms round the attacker and spun him to the ground, right in front of the ref! It doesn't matter if that happens regularly it's a penalty if the ref chooses to give it! The lesson for Spencer is to shield his man and not so obviously grapple him down. The issue is consistency. For 93 minutes Stevenage had been doing exactly the same in their box and getting away with it. Chances are we'd done the same. He can't then decide, after a dozen instances of holding in the box, that the thirteenth identical incident is a foul when the previous twelve were not. I actually think it's a penalty. Said it live. Will say it again. I'm aggrieved it was given because when it was our players on the receiving end of those challenges, nothing was given. Ditto the Nicholls booking. Their lad arsed around something shocking in the first half, nothing. Our lad does it, booked. Either both are bookings or neither is on that one. It doesn't matter whether it's the 11th minute or the 81st. The laws are the same and should be applied the same, not changing depending on the whim of the ref.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Aug 17, 2024 23:36:26 GMT 1
The ref clearly signalled it was for holding. Spencer had his arms round the attacker and spun him to the ground, right in front of the ref! It doesn't matter if that happens regularly it's a penalty if the ref chooses to give it! The lesson for Spencer is to shield his man and not so obviously grapple him down. Weird that he chose to give it then though and has a a by red ever given a penalty for what you claim to happen at every corner tussle? I haven't even seen the incident from today as I was away for a family thing (pretty sure I was counted in the gate though)... but I can say with certainty that it can't have been more of a pen than the one on Wardy on Tuesday night in the second half, that if it was in a Giants game would have ended with their lad being sin-binned. We've always suffered from a tendency of refs to think we're "dirty northern b***ards", regardless of which division we're in. Guess we just have to deal with it. You can only s**t with the a**e you've got.
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Post by BlueValour on Aug 17, 2024 23:37:45 GMT 1
The ref clearly signalled it was for holding. Spencer had his arms round the attacker and spun him to the ground, right in front of the ref! It doesn't matter if that happens regularly it's a penalty if the ref chooses to give it! The lesson for Spencer is to shield his man and not so obviously grapple him down. I concede. I can't see that on my phone and I didn't see it in real time in the ground. However I will say not one Stevenage player appealed, and none round were I was knew why it was given. Most seemed to think it was a foul against Nicholls. I also didn't know what had happened when I was in the ground. But from tonight's ITV4 highlights it was very clear.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 17, 2024 23:39:51 GMT 1
Felt something in his groin after training, given his injury record Duff said he was left out as a precaution and that he should be back very soon. Thank you!
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Post by gammon on Aug 17, 2024 23:53:28 GMT 1
Hope you enjoy- a little pre-match fun for you coming up in honor of the home opener…….. Do you mean the flames and smoke (if it was smoke) as the players walked out? Haven't seen any mention of this. I couldn't make the cup game so not sure if happened then too.
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Post by uptownfunk on Aug 17, 2024 23:59:35 GMT 1
I really think it’s just about points this league. Points and get out of it automatically. Certainly for these first 10 games or so.. let’s just build that tally. The performances/fine play will come down the line.
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Post by heycarpet on Aug 18, 2024 0:44:57 GMT 1
Happy for the 3 points. Dominant first half and in general seems we have finally got a manager who can get a tune out of this squad. Would love to get rid of Danny Ward though. Tiresome. So tiresome. Not sure what’s happened to Spencer either. Looks a liability. Not someone who sits well in a back 3. Also need to find a way of having Herbie Kane start. Tricky as he’s not a natural 6.
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