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Post by colnevalleyblue on Aug 19, 2024 9:37:35 GMT 1
Town need to find a solution to our lack of pace at the back. Think we need to be signing a pacey centre half this week or coming up with a new style of defending which is better suited to dealing with the long ball down the pitch, 1v1 situations.
Sounds like Shrewsbury are living up to their pre season tag of 'relegation fodder'.
Don't think they'll be expected to get anything, hammered at home but that could work in their favour, the pressure will be on Town to turn them over and I expect they'll spend all week working on ways to keep us out and nullify the match for as long as possible.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 19, 2024 9:44:09 GMT 1
The only doubt I have in us taking Shrewsbury apart is that they park the bus in a damage limitation exercise (which to be fair, if I was them that's what I'd do).
In that case I'd still predict a small win. At some stage we'd open them up.
I can see Kane being quite instrumental in this one in terms of unlocking that low block. I see little point in Hogg playing this one. We need to manage his minutes and others are better suited to the challenges Shrewsbury will bring.
If we're going 3-5-2:
Nichols
Spencer
Helik
Lees
Headley
Kane
Kasumu
Wiles
Sorensen
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Koroma
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Kasumu can carry the ball forward and mop up any attack through the middle. Kane can pick a pass, and Wiles is in his best form since joining the club. If needs be, could bring him off either for Evans or Iorpenda to mix that up.
Headley carries more goal threat than Miller, and Miller's minutes need to be managed.
Healey and Harratt can both move quite cleverly and may have a role to play. Marshall is a clever player with a good finish and JK can pick the ball up deep and run at them. If one pairing doesn't work, the other might pose different questions for Shrewsbury.
Also, could look at a different formation. One midfielder out and replace with a striker, could have JK and Marshall either side of the central striker in a 343. Especially if we're struggling to break them down.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 19, 2024 9:46:17 GMT 1
4 - 0 Town, 2 of them penalties. Whats a penalty?!! If a game is level at full time and there needs to be a winner, we get 5 of them. Alternatively, they can be given randomly to our opponents during games. See the last minute of our game on Saturday for details. |
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Post by Orinoco on Aug 19, 2024 9:53:30 GMT 1
If a game is level at full time and there needs to be a winner, we get 5 of them. Alternatively, they can be given randomly to our opponents during games. See the last minute of our game on Saturday for details. Do you get 2 points for them as you do in rugby league?! |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 19, 2024 10:08:17 GMT 1
Was that the 3 keepers game?......Rankin, Lillis & Kindon? I think the third keeper was Chris Simpkin. It wasn't. |
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Post by irverino on Aug 19, 2024 10:18:32 GMT 1
I think MD will go with same line up as Stevenage although he could bring back Healey & save Marshall/Ward combo for Walsall next Tuesday.
Hopefully the staff/squad will analyse Saturdays 2nd half & pinpoint why/where it needs addressing so we put Shrewsbury to bed without any issues, 1st half performances have been solid so far & 2nd half needs tweaking.....The Shrews took just under 500 fans to Herts so they could bring a few to JSS if not too disheartened yet.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 19, 2024 10:27:39 GMT 1
If a game is level at full time and there needs to be a winner, we get 5 of them. Alternatively, they can be given randomly to our opponents during games. See the last minute of our game on Saturday for details. Do you get 2 points for them as you do in rugby league?! Must do. Last time we were in this division we missed our first three in a row and still won promotion, so ours must have been worth more. |
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Post by ben1987 on Aug 19, 2024 10:56:52 GMT 1
Town v Bottom of the league… what could possibly go wrong?
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Aug 19, 2024 12:36:52 GMT 1
Aye. They let one in each. 14k crowd (sorry if it pisses some people off to actually quote a proper attendance) which was very good in that era considering there was only a smallish away support. Towns average was 11,000 finishing 4th in the league, best 28901 v Barnsley, worst 6 something v Fulham. Run of the mill matches c 8000. Crowd figures were probably made up then as well, only they were understated rather than overstated - lots of cash at the turnstiles to be taxed! Probably the biggest under estimate in my lifetime was the 27,000 they said attended the final game of 69/70 against Watford. There were 35,000 to 40,000 there, I swear down. On this one only I am ITK and you are correct. There was nearly always a turn style not in use  |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 19, 2024 12:40:41 GMT 1
I don't want to sound too complacent but this is a game we really need to win if we are serious about promotion this season, Stevenage were no push overs and they had a few very good chances in the 2nd half. I am expecting a win against Shrewsbury though, 7-1 would be nice, I have not seen them score 7 since Port Vale at home, many years ago. Did you miss the Brighton game a few years back? |
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Aug 19, 2024 12:45:11 GMT 1
Yep attendances were fiction back in the early 70s and beyond. One that really sticks in my mind was the Derby game in early 1970 First Division season. It was reported at 28,000 but it felt much more than that. It seemed more packed than the 41,000 against Man Utd later that season.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 19, 2024 12:55:11 GMT 1
Wasn’t Palace also 7-1 or was it 6?
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Aug 19, 2024 13:22:48 GMT 1
Wasn’t Palace also 7-1 or was it 6? 7 |
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Post by Bubbles on Aug 19, 2024 13:32:36 GMT 1
I don't want to sound too complacent but this is a game we really need to win if we are serious about promotion this season, Stevenage were no push overs and they had a few very good chances in the 2nd half. I am expecting a win against Shrewsbury though, 7-1 would be nice, I have not seen them score 7 since Port Vale at home, many years ago. Did you miss the Brighton game a few years back? Or Palace 7-1. Or even 7-0 against Lincoln United in the FA cup in 1991? The legendary Frank Stapleton scored one of them I remember. Anyway,the state of some of the predictions on this thread! Have we learnt nothing over the years?  |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 19, 2024 14:00:44 GMT 1
Town v Bottom of the league… what could possibly go wrong? New season, new manager, new attitude, comfortable win… get onboard 😉 |
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Post by sabailand on Aug 19, 2024 15:47:06 GMT 1
I’d take a scrappy 1-0 all day long Although im pretty confident we'll win so would i, first three games one goal conceded (a penalty at that) would be great. |
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Post by bluetit on Aug 19, 2024 16:39:06 GMT 1
A game we should win comfortably so I expect us to struggle 1-0 will suit me.
As for penalties we don’t need them and our players would probably be confused if awarded one and miss.
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Post by dezzly on Aug 19, 2024 17:44:08 GMT 1
Be surprised if we aren’t taking 9 points to Rotherham to be honest.
Shrewsbury look like one of,if not the worst side in the division,certainly right now anyway.
They didn’t score goals last season and doesn’t appear that they’ve rectified that this.Nor do I think they’re as direct as Stevenage were.
Think they will come,sit and hope for the best to be honest.
I’m saying this will be the first league game we score 4.
3 from 3 can’t be a bad thing with upcoming away games against Rotherham,Bolton,reading and Birmingham!
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Post by Horney Barry on Aug 19, 2024 18:10:16 GMT 1
Should be another three points and I can see the players run into the ground over 90 minutes after the second half on Saturday.
6-0 Town win and we go back top of the league.
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Post by CaptainHart on Aug 19, 2024 18:36:32 GMT 1
I think the third keeper was Chris Simpkin. Not Simpkin, he'd gone long before Buxton......Possibly Chris Topping? Sure Kindon was one. Yes, Topping, wasn’t Kindon. |
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Aug 19, 2024 18:51:46 GMT 1
Yep attendances were fiction back in the early 70s and beyond. One that really sticks in my mind was the Derby game in early 1970 First Division season. It was reported at 28,000 but it felt much more than that. It seemed more packed than the 41,000 against Man Utd later that season. There was a programme on TV in the early 70's and it was about Division One clubs who's gates were being fiddled by the gatemen. There was 5 clubs mentioned Town, Coventry and Everton and i can't remember the other two and basically the guy who exposed it all said "the gatemen would stick a screw driver in the mechanism and it would still turn but not click so it would not register anyone who went through". It was done all the time even more so at the really big games. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Aug 19, 2024 19:00:58 GMT 1
I don't want to sound too complacent but this is a game we really need to win if we are serious about promotion this season, Stevenage were no push overs and they had a few very good chances in the 2nd half. I am expecting a win against Shrewsbury though, 7-1 would be nice, I have not seen them score 7 since Port Vale at home, many years ago. Did you miss the Brighton game a few years back? One of my favourite Town games ever that. Balmy summer night game, absolutely paggering them. Theo off the bench just took the piss out of them towards the end. Had been a few years since a really big win at that point, it really felt like a new era had arrived. Feels a bit like that now in fact! |
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Post by drewden on Aug 19, 2024 20:14:56 GMT 1
Yep attendances were fiction back in the early 70s and beyond. One that really sticks in my mind was the Derby game in early 1970 First Division season. It was reported at 28,000 but it felt much more than that. It seemed more packed than the 41,000 against Man Utd later that season. There was a programme on TV in the early 70's and it was about Division One clubs who's gates were being fiddled by the gatemen. There was 5 clubs mentioned Town, Coventry and Everton and i can't remember the other two and basically the guy who exposed it all said "the gatemen would stick a screw driver in the mechanism and it would still turn but not click so it would not register anyone who went through". It was done all the time even more so at the really big games. In the 70s, Jumping over the turnstile made no click either. |
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Post by captainblack on Aug 20, 2024 9:10:55 GMT 1
I don't want to sound too complacent but this is a game we really need to win if we are serious about promotion this season, Stevenage were no push overs and they had a few very good chances in the 2nd half. I am expecting a win against Shrewsbury though, 7-1 would be nice, I have not seen them score 7 since Port Vale at home, many years ago. Did you miss the Brighton game a few years back? Unfortunately I did, and I believe Town got 7 against Palace, I missed that too , part timer  |
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Post by captainblack on Aug 20, 2024 9:25:06 GMT 1
Did you miss the Brighton game a few years back? Or Palace 7-1. Or even 7-0 against Lincoln United in the FA cup in 1991? The legendary Frank Stapleton scored one of them I remember. Anyway,the state of some of the predictions on this thread! Have we learnt nothing over the years? I had totally forgotten about the Lincoln United game which I attended , 1991 , It does not seem that long ago! It would be nice to get 7 against Shrewsbury , however another 2-0 victory would be fine. |
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Post by dugnet on Aug 20, 2024 10:14:35 GMT 1
If Shrewsbury are as poor as their last game we need to be ruthless, but I say that knowing football is seldom as easy as that.
At this stage we need to simply build momentum with tougher challenges up coming in September. I doubt MD will accept any significant drop below the standards he expects. Do that and we should be looking to win, and win well.
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Post by Orinoco on Aug 20, 2024 10:23:00 GMT 1
Town v Bottom of the league… what could possibly go wrong? It's like when when got picked to be on TV or got a big gate in the Leeds Road days, always lost!! |
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 20, 2024 11:35:38 GMT 1
Shrewsbury will be smarting from being thumped at home. They'll come and want to keep it tight, proving a point (and probably aiming for little more than that). There's two ways they may be thinking: where better to go to prove a point than one of the strongest sides in the league and they pick up and deliver a big performance; or that they're going to one of the strongest sides in the league and they're beaten before they even walk out.
They drew 1-1 at Derby last season, so they've certainly done the former in the past. But they're on a run of 5 wins in 28 (including 17 defeats - just 21 points in that time), and haven't tasted success in the League since 16th March (1-0, v relegated Carlisle), since going 9 without a win (4 draws). They're also a very new team, with many old-stagers some of us are familiar with having moved on. Elliot Bennett, for instance, an old Championship warhorse, is no longer there; neither are Chey Dunkley, Ryan Bowman, others who you'd say are very solid performers with good track records. The highly-rated keeper Marosi has also moved on, being replaced by Toby Savin, who didn't play at all for Accrington last season after September (seemingly from injury, rather than loss of form). Harrison Biggins is a solid signing in the middle, from Doncaster, but you'd have to argue that they're weaker this season than last.
They also have a game midweek, in the competition formerly known as the Paint Pot, against Fulham U21. With a thin squad, it'll be interesting to see what side they put out tonight.
Which all adds up to a smash-and-grab from them with us missing a penalty from shock, thundering the woodwork four times, the keeper having a blinder, and their goal coming from a scuff-in via two deflections and the ref's arse. Town 0-1 Shrewsbury. It's what we do!
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Post by crux on Aug 20, 2024 11:43:49 GMT 1
Town v Bottom of the league… what could possibly go wrong? 89 minutes of Town pressure and 90th minute Shrewsbury winner it is then 🙄 |
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Aug 20, 2024 12:19:16 GMT 1
For those that may or may not remember: Hereford, Darlington (FA Cup round1), Burton, Workington, Southport, Doncaster on tv too, Bolton when they were 2 divisions below us and an aging Roger Hunt played are but some of the many games I have seen Town lose at home when we were expected to win.
1-0 would suit me fine. Home win of course!
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