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Post by ben1987 on Aug 27, 2024 21:52:57 GMT 1
Utterly atrocious. A real throw back to last season.
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Post by teesdaleterrier on Aug 27, 2024 21:53:29 GMT 1
Helik really hasn't had a good start to this season at all It's like he's playing for a move away by playing god awful |
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Post by belizian on Aug 27, 2024 21:53:44 GMT 1
Give Harratt a chance and he’ll come good. The chance he needs is in the Conference. Should be out on loan next week. |
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Post by ezzie on Aug 27, 2024 21:54:14 GMT 1
I really don't know what we do on Saturday now, you might as well toss a coin about whether you pick Turton or Ruffels but it's the midfield I'm really concerned about, all 3 starters were pathetic, no decent tackling, no movement, no combinations ...nothing. I’m gonna be honest… Kasumu HAS to start… Hogg is the definitive problem it’s so fucking clear. He lacks pace, his cover is shocking, he doesn’t move into space, he lacks technical ability, lacks footballing IQ, lacks energy, lacks pace. It’s a constant car crash. Kasumu offers that solidity with pure energy, good tackles and pitch coverage. I said at the start of the window we needed Erhahon from Lincoln but of course we’ve been linked with fuck all |
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Post by Matt1908 on Aug 27, 2024 21:54:28 GMT 1
Helik really hasn't had a good start to this season at all It looks to me like Helik is a better backs to the wall style defender, great at late blocks and stretched clearances etc. not as good on the front foot near the half way line, positionally it's like he just isn't used to the role. Hard to blame him when he's spent the last 3/4 seasons defending his 6 years box valiantly |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Aug 27, 2024 21:54:47 GMT 1
Squad isn’t where it should be at this point. Should make the play offs, but they are far, far too weak when it matters After 45 mins against Stevenage, 90 against Shrewsbury and 90 against fuckin Walsall I’m don’t share your optimism about play offs. I don’t think Mr Duff has had a great match for the last 2 either. No he hasn’t. Not optimistic for the play off really, it is just this league is so weak I don’t think we can fail to get into them. We should be targeting top two, but sod all chance of that with some of these losers on board. |
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Post by utttrooper on Aug 27, 2024 21:55:12 GMT 1
Helik really hasn't had a good start to this season at all That's an overreaction to just today. Before today he's been solid and has been able to pass the ball well. However, tonight he had a stinker and was responsible for their 2nd as was Ruffels who was sloppy on the ball but just about saved himself by scoring and providing some balance to the back line |
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Post by mids on Aug 27, 2024 21:56:12 GMT 1
Poor performances galore but having 10 men didn't help really. I have faith that MD will get it sorted, given time.
Hopefully a couple of improvements to the team/squad over the coming days, some lads loaned out/sold, and things may look more positive...starting with another 3 points on Saturday lunchtime
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Post by utttrooper on Aug 27, 2024 21:56:39 GMT 1
Give Harratt a chance and he’ll come good. Can you take him please They won't want him, saying that no team higher than the 12th tier would |
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Post by blueandwhitescarf on Aug 27, 2024 21:56:44 GMT 1
All our worst fears were shown to be true tonight. It was laughable from start to finish. How many times did Maxwell kick the ball through to their gk? Turton and Ruffels looked way off the pace, Pearson fell asleep, Helik brought on to steady the ship made things worse (and to think we thought we would lose him to a Champ team🤣), the midfield was appalling no bite and no connection at all to each other or the rest of the team...what was that header from Evans about?? Toothless upfront.
On the back of that it appears we have 4 good players..Nicholls, Sorrensen, Miller and Kane. There's hope for Iropenda and Marshall but we shouldn't have to rely on them.
How the hell did we beat Peterborough?
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Post by tonytiler on Aug 27, 2024 21:57:04 GMT 1
Duff has the same mind set as the previous managers were Hoggy is concerned,he hasn't the balls to drop him and you can count Danny Ward as another one who will not be dropped no matter how crap they perform!!!
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Post by E4b on Aug 27, 2024 21:57:06 GMT 1
With a half chance yes, happens in Premier League every week. If only he'd have played like he has in the last few seasons, eh? Think he’s been out injured, came back from injury around about Watford away last season. Excellent cross for Harratt though tonight, what a shame he couldn’t find the target that was gaping in front of him, excellent cross. |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2024 21:57:26 GMT 1
One point again
Can you imagine Town 0 2 down at home in the second half against a team from the division above and winning?
Once in a fucking 60 year lifetime and possibly never.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 27, 2024 21:57:56 GMT 1
I'll stop posting tonight now cos I'm fuming, I think we've had a great start to the season so I just hope tonight was a one-off because it was pathetic from start to finish.... I couldn't believe we were actually 2 up but if anyone ever says to me again that playing against 10 men is harder, I'll quote them this game.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 27, 2024 21:58:13 GMT 1
Dreadful
Many of those players have barely had a kick this season so at the very least you’d expect them to have the bit between there teeth to prove a point
They trotted around like they were world beaters rather than stiffs in a league one team
A 18 year old kid ran rings around them and both Town goals could have been saved by a better keeper
Terrible performance and even worse (big time) attitude from the reserve players. Hopefully Duff tells them that the very least you expect is a bit of effort
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Post by impact on Aug 27, 2024 21:58:34 GMT 1
Helik really hasn't had a good start to this season at all It looks to me like Helik is a better backs to the wall style defender, great at late blocks and stretched clearances etc. not as good on the front foot near the half way line, positionally it's like he just isn't used to the role. Hard to blame him when he's spent the last 3/4 seasons defending his 6 years box valiantly He can't sort his feet out and is his big weakness, as well as running out too much. He regularly gets turned in a circle 1 on 1, as we saw v Shrewsbury. There were a lot of similar situations last year which got swept under the carpet as we made plenty more mistakes, but now we're dominating the ball they're becoming more obvious. |
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Post by irverino on Aug 27, 2024 21:58:37 GMT 1
Why are we playing with two strikers with a man down and two goals up?
They’ve scored now and right back in game.
Absolutely shocking performance from manager and players. Good question. Too late now.......MD needs to take some of the blame |
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Post by cuz on Aug 27, 2024 21:58:53 GMT 1
One point again Can you imagine Town 0 2 down at home in the second half against a team from the division above and winning? Once in a fucking 60 year lifetime and possibly never. Can you imagine Town coming back from 2-0 down against 10 men? |
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Post by specialun on Aug 27, 2024 21:59:34 GMT 1
Has Kasumu gone into his first of 6 injuries? What a waste of a wage he is I appreciate how you can watch the 11 idiots that played and somehow blame someone who didn’t. I ‘appreciate’ if you could point out where I somehow blame him for tonight? |
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Post by Wingman on Aug 27, 2024 21:59:39 GMT 1
Give Harratt a chance and he’ll come good. Can you take him please Didn’t he kiss the chicken’s badge when he signed on loan? I’d rather a roast chicken was up front than Harratt currently. |
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Post by utttrooper on Aug 27, 2024 22:00:23 GMT 1
One point again Can you imagine Town 0 2 down at home in the second half against a team from the division above and winning? Once in a fucking 60 year lifetime and possibly never. Can you imagine Town coming back from 2-0 down against 10 men? Maybe against Slough Town U13s |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Aug 27, 2024 22:00:45 GMT 1
Helik really hasn't had a good start to this season at all It looks to me like Helik is a better backs to the wall style defender, great at late blocks and stretched clearances etc. not as good on the front foot near the half way line, positionally it's like he just isn't used to the role. Hard to blame him when he's spent the last 3/4 seasons defending his 6 years box valiantly He’s been poor but we haven’t exactly limited the other teams chances. Shrewsbury had about as many as us, same tonight , Peterborough had some decent ones. Only Stevenage did nothing going forward. Once again, our defence has had to do too much, the terrible midfield puts so much pressure on them all. |
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Post by htfcterry on Aug 27, 2024 22:00:52 GMT 1
It was like watching the Town of last season that.
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2024 22:01:05 GMT 1
Think Iorpenda Koroma and Marshall were only one's who played decent today. Ward put a good cross in and ran about. If their young striker put away all his chances it would of been embarrassing. It already was embarassing |
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Post by teesdaleterrier on Aug 27, 2024 22:01:13 GMT 1
I do think the sending off was harsh as was Evans' yellow card. Not that that's an excuse or rationale.
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Post by belizian on Aug 27, 2024 22:01:35 GMT 1
Perhaps a faairer reflection of these two:
Ollie Turton - 7
Started in the middle of the back three. Played his way out of a couple of tight spaces and worked the offside trap well when appropriate. Shifted over to right-back for the second half as Town played 4-3-2.
Josh Ruffels - 8
Made his first competitive outing since last November on the left of the Town rear trio. Looked a little rusty at times in the first moments of the game, entirely understandably, and allowed Lowe to buy a soft foul that got Ruffels booked in a precursor to Pearson’s later red. Grew into the game, though and made a couple of important last-ditch challenges late in the first half before marking his return with a powerful header to double the lead. Blocked a good Walsall effort late on that looked goalbound.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 27, 2024 22:01:42 GMT 1
If only he'd have played like he has in the last few seasons, eh? Think he’s been out injured, came back from injury around about Watford away last season. Excellent cross for Harratt though tonight, what a shame he couldn’t find the target that was gaping in front of him, excellent cross. He played over 20 games last season, scored 3 goals. In the last two seasons he's averaged 1 in 5. As I say, terrible striker. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 27, 2024 22:02:06 GMT 1
There’s no excuse for Headley tonight woefully out of his depth against a league two club Which was even more bizarre given how good he looked against Morecambe. You will not see a bigger difference between two performances for a long time |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2024 22:02:26 GMT 1
Very poor performance. It was a weird back 3 and shows with Spencer and Balker out we don't have much of a backup.
Pearson getting the red was stupid. Even if the attacker will get there, and we know how slow our central defenders are, you just have to suck it up.
The biggest issue tonight for me was how poor the passing was. Even short passes were not to feet or for the player to run on to. I thought midfield looked decent first couple of games but they just don't seem to have clicked.
We have a problem with Hogg. We don't have enough other leaders on the pitch so he will almost always start but his passing and lack of vision going forward hampers us.
Wiles looks like his confidence is flagging again or he just doesn't fit with Evans. Evans, Wiles and Hogg looks very disjointed.
Defenders were just starting to trust playing it to Iorpenda near the end of the game but for most of the game balls into midfield were almost nonexistant.
I know Walsall got their tails up when we let them back into the game but they were quicker and passed better which does not say much for our players out there tonight.
Little flashes of good passing play but mostly very nervous and poor.
I agree we need some players in before the window closes, just hope we can get some out.
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Post by Matt1908 on Aug 27, 2024 22:02:30 GMT 1
It looks to me like Helik is a better backs to the wall style defender, great at late blocks and stretched clearances etc. not as good on the front foot near the half way line, positionally it's like he just isn't used to the role. Hard to blame him when he's spent the last 3/4 seasons defending his 6 years box valiantly He’s been poor but we haven’t exactly limited the other teams chances. Shrewsbury had about as many as us, same tonight , Peterborough had some decent ones. Only Stevenage did nothing going forward. Once again, our defence has had to do too much, the terrible midfield puts so much pressure on them all. Not necessarily about limiting the chances, our defence is playing about 20 yards further up the field than last year and the chances that have been created this year have been more on the break or 1v1's. whereas last year the goals we conceded were more about sheer weight of pressure on the box given we couldn't even get out of our half for most of the season. |
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