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Post by formerlymirfin5 on Aug 27, 2024 22:12:29 GMT 1
Duff blaming the ref Fuck me Screams manager knows he isn't getting reinforcements and needs to blame someone else so he doesn't lose the fringe players. |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2024 22:13:13 GMT 1
Duff blaming the ref Fuck me Screams manager knows he isn't getting reinforcements and needs to blame someone else so he doesn't lose the fringe players. Sadly probably true |
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Post by shawsie on Aug 27, 2024 22:13:52 GMT 1
Duff blaming the ref Fuck me Hes covering for them on a crap night. Behind closed doors im sure hes raging and the fact hes criticised being out run says it all for me. |
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Post by wildhogg on Aug 27, 2024 22:14:26 GMT 1
Sad but not unexpected to find that we are still carrying the spineless mentality of the last two seasons. Fair enough, were it not for the sending-off then it's likely we'd have won. However, it's absolutely unacceptable to then crumble within 15 minutes against a team from a lower league. I'm worried that Duff's tone has changed after the last two games, and that it's because he's recognised the frailties of the squad and is now sugar-coating/deflecting poor performances like his predecessors. I can only hope that he's reading the riot act in the dressing room, and avoiding throwing some of the players under the bus when he speaks to the media.
Hogg shouldn't play again. It's there for everyone to see.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Aug 27, 2024 22:15:35 GMT 1
Our two wing backs miller and Sorenson are the only real game changers from last season. As soon as neither are playing we go back to not being able to create anything from wingback. To be fair to ward his cross deserved to be buried. Although this result might of come at a good time as we get rid of the deadwood and get some of these players waiting in the wings over the line Bang on It's like Moore and Brietenshite all over again without Miller How many managers is Cartwright going to be allowed to chuck under the bus? |
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Post by Matt1908 on Aug 27, 2024 22:16:23 GMT 1
Not necessarily about limiting the chances, our defence is playing about 20 yards further up the field than last year and the chances that have been created this year have been more on the break or 1v1's. whereas last year the goals we conceded were more about sheer weight of pressure on the box given we couldn't even get out of our half for most of the season. It might not be everyone’s cup of tea but I’ve always enjoyed the idea of scoring more instead of being bothered about conceding. It’s not completely sustainable but for years at town we’ve not even tried to put teams to the sword. I don’t think many fans would care if we won 4-2 every week but when we struggle to score more than 1 it makes it difficult to relax 100% agreed, not a criticism as such, more an observation on my part |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2024 22:16:24 GMT 1
It’s the Walsall vs town thread and you’ve called someone a waste of a wage who didn’t play. Why bring him up? I’m simply asking why he wasn’t playing I’d have hoped he’d have been available and started today If he’s injured already I do think he’s a waste of a wage having seen this happen several times the last few years - it’s an opinion. It doesn’t mean he’s to blame for todays performance If he’s not involved as starting Saturday it’s a managerial choice and would seem daft to play the 3 starters the last few games again Death on the family I think Duff said? I was only half listening. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Aug 27, 2024 22:18:00 GMT 1
It’s a Mickey Mouse cup we had no chance of winning who cares. Beating Rotherham Saturday is much more important!
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2024 22:19:05 GMT 1
Not necessarily about limiting the chances, our defence is playing about 20 yards further up the field than last year and the chances that have been created this year have been more on the break or 1v1's. whereas last year the goals we conceded were more about sheer weight of pressure on the box given we couldn't even get out of our half for most of the season. It might not be everyone’s cup of tea but I’ve always enjoyed the idea of scoring more instead of being bothered about conceding. It’s not completely sustainable but for years at town we’ve not even tried to put teams to the sword. I don’t think many fans would care if we won 4-2 every week but when we struggle to score more than 1 it makes it difficult to relax Sick to death of it to be honest. Years of negativity and defensive mindset. Hogg is the epitome of that attitude. Wagner brought that in |
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Post by Larry David on Aug 27, 2024 22:20:50 GMT 1
'They are a quiet bunch ' is very telling and concerning. Duff said it tonight post match
That's why Hogg starts every game and why we don't have the winners in the team. Too many players used to losing and mentally weak.
I foresee bit of a problem when we go on a bad run.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 27, 2024 22:22:00 GMT 1
'They are a quiet bunch ' is very telling and concerning. Duff said it tonight post match That's why Hogg starts every game and why we don't have the winners in the team. Too many players used to losing and mentally weak. I foresee bit of a problem when we go on a bad run. A few leaders were a must in this window. |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Aug 27, 2024 22:22:40 GMT 1
'They are a quiet bunch ' is very telling and concerning. Duff said it tonight post match That's why Hogg starts every game and why we don't have the winners in the team. Too many players used to losing and mentally weak. I foresee bit of a problem when we go on a bad run. Everyone could see last season that we didn’t have any leaders on the pitch. We wilted when the going got tough and showed a lack of heart. Many of those players are still here and the ones we’ve brought in don’t look to be those characters we need on the pitch. Why has this not been addressed? |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2024 22:23:31 GMT 1
Can you imagine Town coming back from 2-0 down against 10 men? Maybe against Slough Town U13s Still can't It never happens We go behind we lose |
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Post by ambryboy on Aug 27, 2024 22:23:38 GMT 1
Switched the radio and telly off, can someone post Duff’s thoughts on here please? Hopefully he’s pretty angry. Seemed surprisingly measured in his tone to me, hopefully this is just his 'media facing' approach but I suspect he is simply trying to adopt a bit more of a positive mindset in the players and exorcise some of last years demons. |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2024 22:24:43 GMT 1
'They are a quiet bunch ' is very telling and concerning. Duff said it tonight post match That's why Hogg starts every game and why we don't have the winners in the team. Too many players used to losing and mentally weak. I foresee bit of a problem when we go on a bad run. People knock Glennon but he's been saying it for a while... No talkers in the team. No leaders. Maxwell spoke well just now. |
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Post by willo on Aug 27, 2024 22:24:44 GMT 1
I’m gonna be honest… Kasumu HAS to start… Hogg is the definitive problem it’s so fucking clear. He lacks pace, his cover is shocking, he doesn’t move into space, he lacks technical ability, lacks footballing IQ, lacks energy, lacks pace. It’s a constant car crash. Kasumu offers that solidity with pure energy, good tackles and pitch coverage. I said at the start of the window we needed Erhahon from Lincoln but of course we’ve been linked with fuck all Agree on Hogg but whilst I'll admit Kasumu has had an encouraging start to the season, I promise you he's not the answer. We simply need much better because this squad is top ten at best without significant improvements. Hogg is Hogg. Many of us have watched him for 10 years now and we all know exactly what you get with him, he breaks play up and passes the ball sideways and that’s it (bar dishing out the odd bollocking). His deficiencies were only masked when he had Mooy next to him. How many goals has he scored for us? Poor mans David Batty for those old enough to remember him. Been a great servant but I would have had him out the building following relegation from the Championship. |
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Post by theterrier42 on Aug 27, 2024 22:25:38 GMT 1
I love Hogg and one of my favourite town players of all time, but he’s so past it, it’s genuinely self sabotage playing him
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Post by stinkypete on Aug 27, 2024 22:26:15 GMT 1
Shocking that tonight, but get a defeat out of the way in a pretty much a pointless game, hope for a reaction on Saturday (and hopefully some new faces).
Hogg needs standing down now I’m afraid, nothing feels fluid with him in the team.
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2024 22:26:47 GMT 1
It’s a Mickey Mouse cup we had no chance of winning who cares. Beating Rotherham Saturday is much more important! I care as it goes We've been more than lucky in the last 2 home games |
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Post by Metch on Aug 27, 2024 22:28:29 GMT 1
Neo Eccleston looks a real find, quick, decent feet, natural instincts to go forward and didn't mind getting stuck in. Feels getting injured could be a blessing he's an honest trier but very limited. Neo will enhance the way Clemence wants to play as shown tonight.
From the Barrow forum, bring him back.
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Post by huddersfc on Aug 27, 2024 22:28:31 GMT 1
It’s a Mickey Mouse cup we had no chance of winning who cares. Beating Rotherham Saturday is much more important! Did you give the team talk before the game tonight? |
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Post by theterrier42 on Aug 27, 2024 22:29:15 GMT 1
Never mind man of the match, it would be harder to pick the worst on the field, Helik was an embarrassment in the second half and Harratt needs releasing
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 27, 2024 22:33:53 GMT 1
Neo Eccleston looks a real find, quick, decent feet, natural instincts to go forward and didn't mind getting stuck in. Feels getting injured could be a blessing he's an honest trier but very limited. Neo will enhance the way Clemence wants to play as shown tonight. From the Barrow forum, bring him back. Was a strange one sending him out given we don't have any natural cover for Sorenson |
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Post by jjamez on Aug 27, 2024 22:34:07 GMT 1
Bang on It's like Moore and Brietenshite all over again without Miller How many managers is Cartwright going to be allowed to chuck under the bus? As many as he wants. He's incompetent and we can all see that. We've known the glaring issues in our squad for years, granted longer than he's been here, but it hasn't been addressed. We have defenders who can't pass wind and have the turning circle of the qe2 and when they do look like they are running through treacle with lead boots on. Then we have a strike force where I'd honestly say Healey and koroma are the only two that may get more than ten goals in a season, but for koroma to get that he is going to squander a lot of gilt edged chances. Healey would have to somehow stay fit. Bojan maybe could reach that number but there's no chance he'd stay fit long enough to get close. The only poacher we have in the front line is only able to do it in a field with his pets. We've actually tried addressing it but Cartwright put all his eggs in one basket. But I can understand kev will go out to bat on this one, it was a key appointment that needed making, it looks like it was the wrong one, but he will give Cartwright as much chance as he can |
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Post by Orinoco on Aug 27, 2024 22:34:12 GMT 1
Give Harratt a chance and he’ll come good. Is that what his girlfriend says? |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Aug 27, 2024 22:34:34 GMT 1
It might not be everyone’s cup of tea but I’ve always enjoyed the idea of scoring more instead of being bothered about conceding. It’s not completely sustainable but for years at town we’ve not even tried to put teams to the sword. I don’t think many fans would care if we won 4-2 every week but when we struggle to score more than 1 it makes it difficult to relax Sick to death of it to be honest. Years of negativity and defensive mindset. Hogg is the epitome of that attitude. Wagner brought that in Wagner losing it was the start of all of this. I love him for them two seasons but he made such a 180 in the second prem season. Ever since then we’ve just accepted crap and the club has brainwashed fans into being happy with anything. There’s seemingly nobody held to standard around the club, like you say with Hogg. They’ve made a shrine to a bang average player who im pretty sure nobody can remember anything about before Mooy. I get the feeling that he’s treated like some kind of god around the club, like certain fans treat him. They’re always saying about how we are one club and one as a whole but you’ve got someone with a giant mural who has been part of only 2 top half championship teams and 1 relegation surviving premier league team. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 27, 2024 22:34:48 GMT 1
Never mind man of the match, it would be harder to pick the worst on the field, Helik was an embarrassment in the second half and Harratt needs releasing Hogg for me. Your captain should not be passing the ball straight to the opposition in the middle of the pitch multiple times. |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2024 22:35:10 GMT 1
Never mind man of the match, it would be harder to pick the worst on the field, Helik was an embarrassment in the second half and Harratt needs releasing Do you think Jeliks going? He was poor on Saturday. He downed tools at Barnsley. |
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Post by huddersfc on Aug 27, 2024 22:35:31 GMT 1
It’s a Mickey Mouse cup we had no chance of winning who cares. Beating Rotherham Saturday is much more important! I care as it goes We've been more than lucky in the last 2 home games I do too, I hate the attitude that people have towards cup games nowadays. (Except the EFL trophy, which the EFL have made a mockery of by putting in premier league u21's into a cup for professional League teams) We get through and pull out Liverpool or Man Utd, think of the revenue. In League 1, it can buy you another player. Thats before you consider all the other benefits of winning a football game. Think what crashing out tonight in that manner after being 2-0 up has done to the players, compared to winning the game 2-0 with 10 men. |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Aug 27, 2024 22:36:08 GMT 1
How many managers is Cartwright going to be allowed to chuck under the bus? As many as he wants. He's incompetent and we can all see that. We've known the glaring issues in our squad for years, granted longer than he's been here, but it hasn't been addressed. We have defenders who can't pass wind and have the turning circle of the qe2 and when they do look like they are running through treacle with lead boots on. Then we have a strike force where I'd honestly say Healey and koroma are the only two that may get more than ten goals in a season, but for koroma to get that he is going to squander a lot of gilt edged chances. Healey would have to somehow stay fit. Bojan maybe could reach that number but there's no chance he'd stay fit long enough to get close. The only poacher we have in the front line is only able to do it in a field with his pets. We've actually tried addressing it but Cartwright put all his eggs in one basket. But I can understand kev will go out to bat on this one, it was a key appointment that needed making, it looks like it was the wrong one, but he will give Cartwright as much chance as he can Lee Bromby got sacked for a lot less and he had no money to play with |
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