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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 27, 2024 22:36:32 GMT 1
It’s a Mickey Mouse cup we had no chance of winning who cares. Beating Rotherham Saturday is much more important! That won't happen though, we're most likely to go there and trot out another poor performance like we have done tonight and like the 2 against Stevenage and Shrewsbury. |
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Post by upthetown on Aug 27, 2024 22:36:36 GMT 1
Lovely ball from Ward, Harratt has to score there. A fair few on this pitch in blue and white showing that they really shouldn’t be anywhere near. Ward should be nowhere near a town shirt in 2024 Ward, Hogg, Turton, Ruffels, Harratt - none of them should be playing Hogg in a Whitehead role from the bench at best. |
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Post by Metch on Aug 27, 2024 22:37:25 GMT 1
Neo Eccleston looks a real find, quick, decent feet, natural instincts to go forward and didn't mind getting stuck in. Feels getting injured could be a blessing he's an honest trier but very limited. Neo will enhance the way Clemence wants to play as shown tonight. From the Barrow forum, bring him back. Was a strange one sending him out given we don't have any natural cover for Sorenson He was their man of the match against championship opposition, should have kept him here. |
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Post by soapystevens on Aug 27, 2024 22:37:49 GMT 1
It’s a Mickey Mouse cup we had no chance of winning who cares. Beating Rotherham Saturday is much more important! Every game counts and you're on one count we certainly have no chance of winning especially playing like that. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Aug 27, 2024 22:38:29 GMT 1
has duff done a post match interview anywhere ?
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Aug 27, 2024 22:38:31 GMT 1
Have lessons been learnt?
We've been saying it how we see it for a few years.
Last year showed up all the areas which have been a concern, the team were also thrown to the slaughter by AB. Changes were promised by KN.
A decent (if poor performing) start and KN is on Twitter talking confident. Yet on a surface polish has been carried out, when we needed the rust cutting away.
There still needs to be a rebuild that runs deeper than the obvious areas for improvement.
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Post by Wingman on Aug 27, 2024 22:39:33 GMT 1
Give Harratt a chance and he’ll come good. Is that what his girlfriend says? Oooof 😄 |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2024 22:39:36 GMT 1
I care as it goes We've been more than lucky in the last 2 home games I do too, I hate the attitude that people have towards cup games nowadays. (Except the EFL trophy, which the EFL have made a mockery of by putting in premier league u21's into a cup for professional League teams) We get through and pull out Liverpool or Man Utd, think of the revenue. In League 1, it can buy you another player. Thats before you consider all the other benefits of winning a football game. Think what crashing out tonight in that manner after being 2-0 up has done to the players, compared to winning the game 2-0 with 10 men. Exactly The momentum has been drained completely. A win tonight, playing over half with 10 men would have the team an fans going into Saturday on a high. |
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Post by irverino on Aug 27, 2024 22:42:24 GMT 1
Thankfully Walsall had only 3 players who started in the league two game last Saturday from the off......I thought they were going to go with a strong line up against us.
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Post by soapystevens on Aug 27, 2024 22:43:03 GMT 1
Why have some fans got this "Mickey Mouse" cup from, win it and you are in Europe.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Aug 27, 2024 22:43:44 GMT 1
'They are a quiet bunch ' is very telling and concerning. Duff said it tonight post match That's why Hogg starts every game and why we don't have the winners in the team. Too many players used to losing and mentally weak. I foresee bit of a problem when we go on a bad run. People knock Glennon but he's been saying it for a while... No talkers in the team. No leaders. Maxwell spoke well just now. had leaders in the Wagner team, difference was they were actually good at football. You almost feel like a well drilled team would be able to play in silence because they know what they are going to do. Town players tonight looked like they didn’t know which colour we wear |
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Post by impact on Aug 27, 2024 22:43:50 GMT 1
'They are a quiet bunch ' is very telling and concerning. Duff said it tonight post match That's why Hogg starts every game and why we don't have the winners in the team. Too many players used to losing and mentally weak. I foresee bit of a problem when we go on a bad run. We hound out every player who shows some character, eg Thomas, but are happy with quiet players who do fuck all. |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2024 22:45:49 GMT 1
Never mind man of the match, it would be harder to pick the worst on the field, Helik was an embarrassment in the second half and Harratt needs releasing Hogg for me. Your captain should not be passing the ball straight to the opposition in the middle of the pitch multiple times. Every match |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 27, 2024 22:46:24 GMT 1
'They are a quiet bunch ' is very telling and concerning. Duff said it tonight post match That's why Hogg starts every game and why we don't have the winners in the team. Too many players used to losing and mentally weak. I foresee bit of a problem when we go on a bad run. We hound out every player who shows some character, eg Thomas, but are happy with quiet players who do fuck all. Throwing a strop when things don't go your way isn't what I'd class as showing leadership qualities. |
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Post by theterrier42 on Aug 27, 2024 22:46:49 GMT 1
Never mind man of the match, it would be harder to pick the worst on the field, Helik was an embarrassment in the second half and Harratt needs releasing Do you think Jeliks going? He was poor on Saturday. He downed tools at Barnsley. Wouldn’t be surprised he’s been average this season, but tonight was a disgrace, may aswell have had a red shirt on |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Aug 27, 2024 22:47:31 GMT 1
'They are a quiet bunch ' is very telling and concerning. Duff said it tonight post match That's why Hogg starts every game and why we don't have the winners in the team. Too many players used to losing and mentally weak. I foresee bit of a problem when we go on a bad run. We hound out every player who shows some character, eg Thomas, but are happy with quiet players who do fuck all. oh come on, I’m not defending our current squad but sorba was as bad as anyone for giving up when it wasn’t going his way. Weird example to use. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Aug 27, 2024 22:48:56 GMT 1
Agree on Hogg but whilst I'll admit Kasumu has had an encouraging start to the season, I promise you he's not the answer. We simply need much better because this squad is top ten at best without significant improvements. Oh no, don’t get me wrong I know he isn’t the answer but he’s by far the best player we’ve got in that position. For me it’s Kasumu > Iorpenda > me > Hogg Hogg being the worst wouldn’t be against giving iorpenda more minutes, has one thing we lack and it’s height |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2024 22:49:38 GMT 1
Neo Eccleston looks a real find, quick, decent feet, natural instincts to go forward and didn't mind getting stuck in. Feels getting injured could be a blessing he's an honest trier but very limited. Neo will enhance the way Clemence wants to play as shown tonight. From the Barrow forum, bring him back. Was a strange one sending him out given we don't have any natural cover for Sorenson Obviously don't rate him unlike Harrat, Headley etc who the club do rate. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 27, 2024 22:51:31 GMT 1
We can look at any number of reasons why we lost that game. With 11, we win it comfortably. The referee's huge error with the red card was catastrophic and we should be appealing it. He then compounded it with a very, very soft penalty - I do not think any other official on the planet gives that - and then the linesman shifts momentum by not giving a blatant offside. 11 v 10, with momentum on the side of 11, and it's a tough game. They have a man over every time, and we can't compensate for that easily.
But we also have to shoulder blame. Too many players making too many silly errors. No clear shape when down to 10 - although we shouldn't have been, Duff needs to think about how to negate with 10 - and no cover for the defence who were overrun by the spare man too often. Hogg, I'm afraid, had his worst game for us tonight and I think questions have to be asked whether he's up to it any more. I say that as a defender of his. We were too soft. We lacked in fighting spirit - shown by reactions to decisions and things going against us, heads going down, just accepting it as what happens and not fighting for the shirt. For the red card there should have been a reaction, and there wasn't. There never is. There hasn't been for a long, long time when things go wrong. There was nobody taking the game by the scruff of the neck and there should have been. We're a soft touch and I'm sick of seeing it. We get shit decisions most weeks because we're a soft touch. The ref knows he isn't going to get it as he should if he makes a mistake, so he's not under pressure as he is from virtually every opponent. Keep them happy, no need to worry about us. So decisions like tonight go against us, constantly.
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Aug 27, 2024 22:52:06 GMT 1
Poor performances galore but having 10 men didn't help really. I have faith that MD will get it sorted, given time. Hopefully a couple of improvements to the team/squad over the coming days, some lads loaned out/sold, and things may look more positive...starting with another 3 points on Saturday lunchtime I trust MD, but he's going to need to be backed and backed properly. |
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Post by bluebeard on Aug 27, 2024 22:52:32 GMT 1
I like listening to Matt Glennon.
That was a disgrace tonight and only highlights my fears after Stevenage and Shrewsbury. The opposition soon find out how to quell your style of play so you need a plan B, do we have one. All that teams have to do is push right up on to us, man mark and we are struggling
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Post by goodbet on Aug 27, 2024 22:54:31 GMT 1
I do too, I hate the attitude that people have towards cup games nowadays. (Except the EFL trophy, which the EFL have made a mockery of by putting in premier league u21's into a cup for professional League teams) We get through and pull out Liverpool or Man Utd, think of the revenue. In League 1, it can buy you another player. Thats before you consider all the other benefits of winning a football game. Think what crashing out tonight in that manner after being 2-0 up has done to the players, compared to winning the game 2-0 with 10 men. Exactly The momentum has been drained completely. A win tonight, playing over half with 10 men would have the team an fans going into Saturday on a high. We have had a run of good results up to tonight. Results help momentum, but our performances have not been that good. Our performance this evening was a steep drop off from previous games this season even before we went down to 10 men. |
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Aug 27, 2024 22:55:50 GMT 1
Hoggs name is getting mentioned a lot tonight, what about the players around him, who were dreadful.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Aug 27, 2024 22:56:56 GMT 1
I like listening to Matt Glennon. That was a disgrace tonight and only highlights my fears after Stevenage and Shrewsbury. The opposition soon find out how to quell your style of play so you need a plan B, do we have one. All that teams have to do is push right up on to us, man mark and we are struggling the plan a seems fairly simple to start with. Miller and sorensen do everything and the centre of the park creates nothing. It’s just like last season but with two sorbas |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Aug 27, 2024 22:58:23 GMT 1
Hoggs name is getting mentioned a lot tonight, what about the players around him, who were dreadful. Evans had been poor but has only played 4 games, wiles is his usual rubbish. Hogg on the other hand has been a constant starter in some of the worst town sides in recent memory. I think I know why he’s getting more comments. |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 27, 2024 22:59:22 GMT 1
Hoggs name is getting mentioned a lot tonight, what about the players around him, who were dreadful. Hogg is the captain, the leader, the so-called General. He couldn't lead a Conga. |
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Post by irverino on Aug 27, 2024 23:01:50 GMT 1
Why have some fans got this "Mickey Mouse" cup from, win it and you are in Europe. The manager/players & staff will watch tomorrows draw & dread the knife will be twisted.......Then KN will stick the boot in too if its a sell out home tie we missed out on. |
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Aug 27, 2024 23:02:26 GMT 1
It’s a Mickey Mouse cup we had no chance of winning who cares. Beating Rotherham Saturday is much more important! I care as it goes We've been more than lucky in the last 2 home games Agreed. I don't buy this it's a Mickey Mouse cup. It's that type of loser mentality thats got us here in the first place. To be totally honest, when clubs and fans say anything about a Mickey Mouse cup, for me it's a justification of failure, and an alibi for losing. Winning is a habit. irrespective of the competition. Mickey Mouse or not, go on a decent run, it not only brings in additional revenue to the club, it makes us more of an appeal to a promising player that we do go further in cups and compete at the right end of the table. We've been dogshit in all competitions (including league), why not try and change the culture. Doesn't stop Man City, Liverpools, Arsenals etc wanting to win it. But, that would explain why they do for the most part win trophies. We win family club of the year awards (which I actually like the fact the club does care about developing a positive and welcoming culture), but let's not sacrifice wanting to compete in everything we do. If it's table tennis, pickleball, fucking tiddlywinks, and we enter a team, I want us to win! |
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Post by rab030 on Aug 27, 2024 23:03:19 GMT 1
I accept that 10 men didn’t help but we were poor all departments.
For me it’s 3 simple changes:
1. Don’t play Ward
2. Don’t play Hogg
3. Don’t play 3 at the back*
*especially when you don’t have 3 decent defenders in your squad
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 27, 2024 23:07:25 GMT 1
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