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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 27, 2024 23:07:28 GMT 1
I care as it goes We've been more than lucky in the last 2 home games Agreed. I don't buy this it's a Mickey Mouse cup. It's that type of loser mentality thats got us here in the first place. To be totally honest, when clubs and fans say anything about a Mickey Mouse cup, for me it's a justification of failure, and an alibi for losing. Winning is a habit. irrespective of the competition. Mickey Mouse or not, go on a decent run, it not only brings in additional revenue to the club, it makes us more of an appeal to a promising player that we do go further in cups and compete at the right end of the table. We've been dogshit in all competitions (including league), why not try and change the culture. Doesn't stop Man City, Liverpools, Arsenals etc wanting to win it. But, that would explain why they do for the most part win trophies. We win family club of the year awards (which I actually like the fact the club does care about developing a positive and welcoming culture), but let's not sacrifice wanting to compete in everything we do. If it's table tennis, pickleball, fucking tiddlywinks, and we enter a team, I want us to win! Winning is a mindset. Although every team loses, it's the manner of tonight's defeat. The lack of real fight, the acceptance of 'oh well, here we go again'. Shit decisions go against us, and we just meekly accept it. I could accept that easily if it led to us being galvanised, but it didn't. Too many lacksadaisical attitudes and not enough fighting heart and spirit. |
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Aug 27, 2024 23:08:27 GMT 1
Another thing i have noticed over the last few years at Town! there is a lack of communication the only ones that seem to regular are Hogg and Nicholls, surely the management must pick up on this, you can't just leave it to your captain.
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Post by jjamez on Aug 27, 2024 23:09:55 GMT 1
As many as he wants. He's incompetent and we can all see that. We've known the glaring issues in our squad for years, granted longer than he's been here, but it hasn't been addressed. We have defenders who can't pass wind and have the turning circle of the qe2 and when they do look like they are running through treacle with lead boots on. Then we have a strike force where I'd honestly say Healey and koroma are the only two that may get more than ten goals in a season, but for koroma to get that he is going to squander a lot of gilt edged chances. Healey would have to somehow stay fit. Bojan maybe could reach that number but there's no chance he'd stay fit long enough to get close. The only poacher we have in the front line is only able to do it in a field with his pets. We've actually tried addressing it but Cartwright put all his eggs in one basket. But I can understand kev will go out to bat on this one, it was a key appointment that needed making, it looks like it was the wrong one, but he will give Cartwright as much chance as he can Lee Bromby got sacked for a lot less and he had no money to play with I didn't like bromby one but. His issue was he was Phil's guy, not deans. Cartwright is kev and jake's hire and as such he will be given too many opportunities to prove they were right. England cricket used to do it all the time, rather give one game too many than not enough and 9 times out of 10 it didn't work, arguably they still do. I can think of one time it has worked in the last 15-20 years perhaps, granted it was a big success in the end, but its a whole different thing. I'd say since Cartwright came in we've needed a huge overhaul, it hasn't happened. Failing that we needed to have a decent percentage of the signings to be much better than whats here. I can think of 2, maybe 3 at a push that have improved the quality in their position. The rest haven't or have yet to do so in early days, which in itself is fine, apart from what they have come into is pretty much dross |
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Post by ben1987 on Aug 27, 2024 23:13:11 GMT 1
Just got back.
Feckless, in truth. A really poor and concerning performance. I hope some harsh words are being had because that isn’t an acceptable performance. It’s more disappointing that we played so badly from the start and never improved despite being 2-0 up. We looked like a side who’d never played with each other before, not one town player can hold their head up high tonight. We are very susceptible to balls over the top and crosses, we also don’t do well when pressed.
My last away game was Leeds and tonight was a reminder as to why.
A real reality check for everyone.
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2024 23:13:38 GMT 1
Another thing i have noticed over the last few years at Town! there is a lack of communication the only ones that seem to regular are Hogg and Nicholls, surely the management must pick up on this, you can't just leave it to your captain. Without doubt there's a lack of characters. I was hoping one of the new signings may have had leadership qualities but Evans hasn't done much and Kanes managed to be injured without even playing in typical Town fashion. |
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Post by shawsie on Aug 27, 2024 23:17:14 GMT 1
Just got back. Feckless, in truth. A really poor and concerning performance. I hope some harsh words are being had because that isn’t an acceptable performance. It’s more disappointing that we played so badly from the start and never improved despite being 2-0 up. We looked like a side who’d never played with each other before, not one town player can hold their head up high tonight. We are very susceptible to balls over the top and crosses, we also don’t do well when pressed. My last away game was Leeds and tonight was a reminder as to why. A real reality check for everyone. Fair assessment sir.... Response needed sat now. Tonight reaffirmed why i dont do away cup ties anymore. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 27, 2024 23:19:35 GMT 1
Think he's fair and measured. More so than I. I would be in serious trouble if I was the manager tonight. Both with the FA and the PFA... |
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Aug 27, 2024 23:23:02 GMT 1
You can't make a system work unless you have the players to do it and while we have several quality individuals we certainly do not have enough good players in the squad.
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Post by pterrier on Aug 27, 2024 23:29:44 GMT 1
Think he's fair and measured. More so than I. I would be in serious trouble if I was the manager tonight. Both with the FA and the PFA... He’s talking shite for a lot of that, the fact he thinks the penalty changed the game is worrying. We were 1-0 up at the time, they missed the pen and then we scored to make it 2-0; duff seemingly thinks we were already 2 up by that point. I question what game he watches at times, don’t even get me started on when he couldn’t clearly see Spencer foul that guy for the pen against Stevenage and couldn’t work out what had happened. Youre a professional coach man, watch the game! |
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Post by dezzly on Aug 27, 2024 23:34:08 GMT 1
Didn’t watch the game as abroad abs sky are sky.
Seems like a lot of folk wetting the bed a bit too soon.A bad performance maybe,but a slightly weaker team made a lot weaker by going to 10.No excuses from duff I’d expect a reaction Saturday and fans maybe chirped up by a couple of incomings!
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Post by goodbet on Aug 27, 2024 23:39:15 GMT 1
Think he's fair and measured. More so than I. I would be in serious trouble if I was the manager tonight. Both with the FA and the PFA... He’s talking shite for a lot of that, the fact he thinks the penalty changed the game is worrying. We were 1-0 up at the time, they missed the pen and then we scored to make it 2-0; duff seemingly thinks we were already 2 up by that point. I question what game he watches at times, don’t even get me started on when he couldn’t clearly see Spencer foul that guy for the pen against Stevenage and couldn’t work out what had happened. Youre a professional coach man, watch the game! All Managers / coaches do that Wenger never saw anything bad that an Arsenal player did but everything that the opposition did. I don't tend to pay too much attention to what Managers say because they tend to be so full of $!;£. |
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Post by rab030 on Aug 27, 2024 23:42:21 GMT 1
Didn’t watch the game as abroad abs sky are sky. Seems like a lot of folk wetting the bed a bit too soon.A bad performance maybe,but a slightly weaker team made a lot weaker by going to 10.No excuses from duff I’d expect a reaction Saturday and fans maybe chirped up by a couple of incomings! Maybe slightly optimistic but I hope you’re right on all counts |
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Post by soapystevens on Aug 27, 2024 23:42:57 GMT 1
Didn’t watch the game as abroad abs sky are sky. Seems like a lot of folk wetting the bed a bit too soon.A bad performance maybe,but a slightly weaker team made a lot weaker by going to 10.No excuses from duff I’d expect a reaction Saturday and fans maybe chirped up by a couple of incomings! I believe that was a different side from Saturday that Walsall played and it wasn't the performance it's the individual errors, we got away with it on Saturday |
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Post by Orinoco on Aug 27, 2024 23:43:57 GMT 1
Why have some fans got this "Mickey Mouse" cup from, win it and you are in Europe. The mickey mouse cup comes up v soon bring on the manc kids!! |
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Post by Morning Norwood on Aug 27, 2024 23:54:15 GMT 1
Ward should be nowhere near a town shirt in 2024 Ward, Hogg, Turton, Ruffels, Harratt - none of them should be playing Hogg in a Whitehead role from the bench at best. Did you think Headley justified a starting place? He only passed forward straight to a red shirt all night |
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Post by impact on Aug 28, 2024 0:10:00 GMT 1
We hound out every player who shows some character, eg Thomas, but are happy with quiet players who do fuck all. oh come on, I’m not defending our current squad but sorba was as bad as anyone for giving up when it wasn’t going his way. Weird example to use. He was the only player to give his all and keep going in that Swansea thrashing. He got annoyed when things weren't going well. Everyone else just accepted it and shirked away. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 28, 2024 0:10:32 GMT 1
Ward, Hogg, Turton, Ruffels, Harratt - none of them should be playing Hogg in a Whitehead role from the bench at best. Did you think Headley justified a starting place? He only passed forward straight to a red shirt all night Only saw second half but Headley was shocking. Just gave the ball away constantly and very clumsy for the pen. But everyone was bad to be fair. Couldn't give a stuff about the league cup but the dip in performances , including last Saturday, is a real concern. The passing has been appalling but the lack of movement really isnt helping that either. |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 28, 2024 0:12:16 GMT 1
oh come on, I’m not defending our current squad but sorba was as bad as anyone for giving up when it wasn’t going his way. Weird example to use. He was the only player to give his all and keep going in that Swansea thrashing. He got annoyed when things weren't going well. Everyone else just accepted it and shirked away. Aye, it was just the Birmingham game where he was hiding as soon as he came on the pitch. |
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Aug 28, 2024 0:14:00 GMT 1
Just watched the Pearson incident at 0.25x on the highlights. I can't see him tug or hold the Walsall player, it shows their player throwing themselves to the ground way after any contact could have taken place.
At the time I thought it was a red, now, I'm not sure. Maxwell clearly wasnt impressed.
I'm probably wrong of course.
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Post by sonny on Aug 28, 2024 0:16:20 GMT 1
Ward, Hogg, Turton, Ruffels, Harratt - none of them should be playing Hogg in a Whitehead role from the bench at best. Did you think Headley justified a starting place? He only passed forward straight to a red shirt all night Headley was atrocious. He continues to make ridiculous decisions. He seems to play the game in a state of panic. There's no indication that he is maturing. Another youth product on his way to a basement club. |
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Post by impact on Aug 28, 2024 0:24:24 GMT 1
He was the only player to give his all and keep going in that Swansea thrashing. He got annoyed when things weren't going well. Everyone else just accepted it and shirked away. Aye, it was just the Birmingham game where he was hiding as soon as he came on the pitch. Hiding, but had more touches in 30 minutes than Koroma had in 60 minutes, Matos in 70 mins or Ward and Healey had in 90 mins. He really hid that game. |
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Post by wigster on Aug 28, 2024 0:25:06 GMT 1
We can look at any number of reasons why we lost that game. With 11, we win it comfortably. The referee's huge error with the red card was catastrophic and we should be appealing it. He then compounded it with a very, very soft penalty - I do not think any other official on the planet gives that - and then the linesman shifts momentum by not giving a blatant offside. 11 v 10, with momentum on the side of 11, and it's a tough game. They have a man over every time, and we can't compensate for that easily. But we also have to shoulder blame. Too many players making too many silly errors. No clear shape when down to 10 - although we shouldn't have been, Duff needs to think about how to negate with 10 - and no cover for the defence who were overrun by the spare man too often. Hogg, I'm afraid, had his worst game for us tonight and I think questions have to be asked whether he's up to it any more. I say that as a defender of his. We were too soft. We lacked in fighting spirit - shown by reactions to decisions and things going against us, heads going down, just accepting it as what happens and not fighting for the shirt. For the red card there should have been a reaction, and there wasn't. There never is. There hasn't been for a long, long time when things go wrong. There was nobody taking the game by the scruff of the neck and there should have been. We're a soft touch and I'm sick of seeing it. We get shit decisions most weeks because we're a soft touch. The ref knows he isn't going to get it as he should if he makes a mistake, so he's not under pressure as he is from virtually every opponent. Keep them happy, no need to worry about us. So decisions like tonight go against us, constantly. Sorry Terriersmad - there was nothing whatsoever soft about that penalty, nothing. An obvious push in the back in the penalty area - a stonewall penalty every day of the week. |
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Post by wigster on Aug 28, 2024 0:28:07 GMT 1
Hoggs name is getting mentioned a lot tonight, what about the players around him, who were dreadful. I said it at the start of the season - Evans flatters to deceive - a good free kick occasionally and then little else. Wiles - back to the invisible mouse of all last season. Hoggy is Hoggy - good at what he does but very limited, and a bit embarrassing when he tries to pass forwards. |
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Aug 28, 2024 0:29:53 GMT 1
We can look at any number of reasons why we lost that game. With 11, we win it comfortably. The referee's huge error with the red card was catastrophic and we should be appealing it. He then compounded it with a very, very soft penalty - I do not think any other official on the planet gives that - and then the linesman shifts momentum by not giving a blatant offside. 11 v 10, with momentum on the side of 11, and it's a tough game. They have a man over every time, and we can't compensate for that easily. But we also have to shoulder blame. Too many players making too many silly errors. No clear shape when down to 10 - although we shouldn't have been, Duff needs to think about how to negate with 10 - and no cover for the defence who were overrun by the spare man too often. Hogg, I'm afraid, had his worst game for us tonight and I think questions have to be asked whether he's up to it any more. I say that as a defender of his. We were too soft. We lacked in fighting spirit - shown by reactions to decisions and things going against us, heads going down, just accepting it as what happens and not fighting for the shirt. For the red card there should have been a reaction, and there wasn't. There never is. There hasn't been for a long, long time when things go wrong. There was nobody taking the game by the scruff of the neck and there should have been. We're a soft touch and I'm sick of seeing it. We get shit decisions most weeks because we're a soft touch. The ref knows he isn't going to get it as he should if he makes a mistake, so he's not under pressure as he is from virtually every opponent. Keep them happy, no need to worry about us. So decisions like tonight go against us, constantly. Sorry Terriersmad - there was nothing whatsoever soft about that penalty, nothing. An obvious push in the back in the penalty area - a stonewall penalty every day of the week. Definite penalty. A night for Headley to forget. |
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Post by boooothy on Aug 28, 2024 0:41:04 GMT 1
Headley had his worst game for Town.
Ben Wiles looked like last season’s version. Evans had a great first game but done little since. Hogg got worse as the game went on. Sorenson after a great start has had 2 poor games. Hard to pick out what Turton and Ruffels did wrong but the defence looked miles off. Could and probably should be the last time we see Harrett.
Concerning.
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 28, 2024 0:43:56 GMT 1
Aye, it was just the Birmingham game where he was hiding as soon as he came on the pitch. Hiding, but had more touches in 30 minutes than Koroma had in 60 minutes, Matos in 70 mins or Ward and Healey had in 90 mins. He really hid that game. Yeah he did. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Aug 28, 2024 0:50:09 GMT 1
As many as he wants. He's incompetent and we can all see that. We've known the glaring issues in our squad for years, granted longer than he's been here, but it hasn't been addressed. We have defenders who can't pass wind and have the turning circle of the qe2 and when they do look like they are running through treacle with lead boots on. Then we have a strike force where I'd honestly say Healey and koroma are the only two that may get more than ten goals in a season, but for koroma to get that he is going to squander a lot of gilt edged chances. Healey would have to somehow stay fit. Bojan maybe could reach that number but there's no chance he'd stay fit long enough to get close. The only poacher we have in the front line is only able to do it in a field with his pets. We've actually tried addressing it but Cartwright put all his eggs in one basket. But I can understand kev will go out to bat on this one, it was a key appointment that needed making, it looks like it was the wrong one, but he will give Cartwright as much chance as he can Lee Bromby got sacked for a lot less and he had no money to play with Bromby can pick a player. Cartwright can’t pick a player. |
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Post by bentley316 on Aug 28, 2024 1:22:50 GMT 1
The Bescot is a 10 minute drive from my house. I was gutted i couldnt go when the draw was made because I was on holiday in Devon.
Thank Christ I couldnt go. Awful, Awful showing. Hopefully this is the wake up Duff and the squad need to step it up.
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Post by uptownfunk on Aug 28, 2024 1:31:29 GMT 1
The Bescot is a 10 minute drive from my house. I was gutted i couldnt go when the draw was made because I was on holiday in Devon. Thank Christ I couldnt go. Awful, Awful showing. Hopefully this is the wake up Duff and the squad need to step it up. And hopefully gives us the resolve in the closing days of the transfer window. |
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Aug 28, 2024 2:50:04 GMT 1
The Bescot is a 10 minute drive from my house. I was gutted i couldnt go when the draw was made because I was on holiday in Devon. Thank Christ I couldnt go. Awful, Awful showing. Hopefully this is the wake up Duff and the squad need to step it up. And hopefully gives us the resolve in the closing days of the transfer window. DTS - "When did you hear about Towns interest in you?" Player - When they got dumped out the "Mickey Mouse Cup". DTS - "What was it that attracted you to Huddersfield Town" Player - "Hmmmm... ahhhh...hmmm... knew it would be too good an opportunity to turn down, to play for a team that needs players. After speaking with Mark Cartwright. I knew it would be a safe place to spend 40% of the season on the treatment table following years of severe injuries" " DTS - "What can Town fans expect from you? For those who aren't too familiar with your style of play" Player - "I run a lot and work hard." |
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