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Post by alex on Sept 3, 2024 21:00:07 GMT 1
Can someone please let me know when it becomes official?
Six years and counting without a decent striker.
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Post by utttrooper on Sept 3, 2024 21:03:11 GMT 1
I wouldn't read too much into today when we had our 3rd choice GK, 4th, 6th and 7th choice CB, 4th choice RWB, 2nd choice LWB, a midfield with an average age of 18, arguably a 5th choice striker and another B team player.
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Post by Bubbles on Sept 3, 2024 21:03:39 GMT 1
Great strike from Jordan Rhodes again tonightโฆ๐
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Post by Detective Boyle on Sept 3, 2024 21:04:53 GMT 1
Guys stop bed wetting. We are clearly going to smash the league. Wiles, Ward, Hogg et al are just luring the league into a false sense of security.
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Post by nicovaesen on Sept 3, 2024 21:05:10 GMT 1
Yes itโs official we are officially still shite
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Sept 3, 2024 21:06:12 GMT 1
I wouldn't read too much into today when we had our 3rd choice GK, 4th, 6th and 7th choice CB, 4th choice RWB, 2nd choice LWB, a midfield with an average age of 18, arguably a 5th choice striker and another B team player. At the end of the game we were only missing Nichols, Helik and Miller. We still couldnโt control the game or score against league 2 opposition.
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Andy Booth Terrier
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Post by Dan on Sept 3, 2024 21:06:35 GMT 1
I wouldn't read too much into today when we had our 3rd choice GK, 4th, 6th and 7th choice CB, 4th choice RWB, 2nd choice LWB, a midfield with an average age of 18, arguably a 5th choice striker and another B team player. ROTTEN TO THE CORE
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Post by heycarpet on Sept 3, 2024 21:06:40 GMT 1
Yes. In a word.
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Post by waggers on Sept 3, 2024 21:08:58 GMT 1
Can someone please let me know when it becomes official? Six years and counting without a decent striker. Maybe. I started off optimistic...it's gradually falling to shit again. Yet again it's a player recruitment issue.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Sept 3, 2024 21:17:18 GMT 1
Great strike from Jordan Rhodes again tonightโฆ๐ What do you mean again? Itโs his first goal this season. Doesnโt matter anyway, we wouldnโt supply him anything
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Post by shawsie on Sept 3, 2024 21:18:37 GMT 1
I wouldn't read too much into today when we had our 3rd choice GK, 4th, 6th and 7th choice CB, 4th choice RWB, 2nd choice LWB, a midfield with an average age of 18, arguably a 5th choice striker and another B team player. And we cudnt beat a league 2 reserve team!
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Post by scroutum on Sept 3, 2024 21:19:20 GMT 1
Yes
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Post by space hardware on Sept 3, 2024 21:19:25 GMT 1
We've been shite for years.
The only outlier was the weird, almost promotion season under Corberan.
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Post by waggers on Sept 3, 2024 21:26:03 GMT 1
I wouldn't read too much into today when we had our 3rd choice GK, 4th, 6th and 7th choice CB, 4th choice RWB, 2nd choice LWB, a midfield with an average age of 18, arguably a 5th choice striker and another B team player. We did have a weakened team out, but they didn't have a full side out either. I'm not claiming it is 100% falling to shit yet but a lot of Town fans do tend to try and explain away bad results. We shouldn't be losing to Wallsall and Doncaster in 1 week.
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Post by soapystevens on Sept 3, 2024 21:29:09 GMT 1
I wouldn't read too much into today when we had our 3rd choice GK, 4th, 6th and 7th choice CB, 4th choice RWB, 2nd choice LWB, a midfield with an average age of 18, arguably a 5th choice striker and another B team player. We did have a weakened team out, but they didn't have a full side out either. Doncaster made 8 changes and listening to Mr Duff i find a bit worrying.
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Post by waggers on Sept 3, 2024 21:36:41 GMT 1
We did have a weakened team out, but they didn't have a full side out either. Doncaster made 8 changes and listening to Mr Duff i find a bit worrying. I naively believed relegation might help force a re-set, do an Ipswich. Don't know whether our 'international break' will help or be a hindering.
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Post by pterrier on Sept 3, 2024 21:38:11 GMT 1
Could be bold post this but here goes โฆ
Ive decided recently that Duff is a bit average. We might still get promotion but that wonโt be because of any masterful tactics or coaching on his part. And even if we do, our one dimension approach will get destroyed in the championship, thatโs not to mention his awful reading of the game and inability to spot who is playing well and who isnโt. He strikes me as a manager who calls things according to reputations and preconceived ideas. Heโs not a long term option and Iโd be amazed if heโs still our manager in 18 months timeโฆ even if we are promoted.
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Sept 3, 2024 21:40:06 GMT 1
Know soon, but same old same old so far. Not be wetting the bed tonight though.
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Post by workshyfop on Sept 3, 2024 21:40:41 GMT 1
Could be bold post this but here goes โฆ Ive decided recently that Duff is a bit average. We might still get promotion but that wonโt be because of any masterful tactics or coaching on his part. And even if we do, our one dimension approach will get destroyed in the championship, thatโs not to mention his awful reading of the game and inability to spot who is playing well and who isnโt. He strikes me as a manager who calls things according to reputations and preconceived ideas. Heโs not a long term option and Iโd be amazed if heโs still our manager in 18 months timeโฆ even if we are promoted. So, if we get promoted it wonโt have anything to do with Duff? Seems a bit harsh. Are you suggesting promotion would be down to all our brilliant players and strong squad depth?!
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Post by rougeboy31 on Sept 3, 2024 21:41:27 GMT 1
Could be bold post this but here goes โฆ Ive decided recently that Duff is a bit average. We might still get promotion but that wonโt be because of any masterful tactics or coaching on his part. And even if we do, our one dimension approach will get destroyed in the championship, thatโs not to mention his awful reading of the game and inability to spot who is playing well and who isnโt. He strikes me as a manager who calls things according to reputations and preconceived ideas. Heโs not a long term option and Iโd be amazed if heโs still our manager in 18 months timeโฆ even if we are promoted. We havenโt had a manager with new ideas since Wagner. Itโs the problem nowadays with all these boring Pep disciples who want to make a thousand passes rather than take risks
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Post by terrierneil on Sept 3, 2024 21:48:15 GMT 1
Could be bold post this but here goes โฆ We might still get promotion ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
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Post by pterrier on Sept 3, 2024 21:54:19 GMT 1
Could be bold post this but here goes โฆ We might still get promotion ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ Not sure itโs that funny, this league is absolutely awful in terms of quality. Our squad (on paper) is a lot stronger than many of the others, but our approach is incredibly basic. We have no discernible patterns of play, a strange shape and no plan b; all those factors are due to management. In this league( thereโs plenty of teams who have achieved promotion by a basic approach but they become unstuck in the champ (Rotherham, Wigan are classic examples of this, achieve promotion, sack manager).
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Sept 3, 2024 22:15:24 GMT 1
Duff needs to get a grip quickly, or these losers will throw him under the bus. They have plenty of experience. The style of play has completely disappeared.
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Post by Amigo on Sept 3, 2024 22:17:38 GMT 1
Please tell me people aren't taking the game tonight seriously.
If ever there was a nothing game it was tonight, just ignore it.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 3, 2024 22:33:35 GMT 1
Please tell me people aren't taking the game tonight seriously. If ever there was a nothing game it was tonight, just ignore it. Should we ignore the Rotherham game too? To ignore tonight would be missing the whole point of what is actually going on here. Granted tonight, in the grand scheme of things, is not the World Cup final but it's the way we are playing, the overall pattern of play, the same failings creeping in, this losing mentality. We actually finished tonight's game with 11 senior pros many of whom were Championship mainstays last season yet we've been beaten by 2 League sides in the last 3 games, put in a dogs doings performance in a league game, christ, this Bolton game could be totally explosive should we put in another shocker and lose.
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Post by royrace on Sept 3, 2024 23:14:13 GMT 1
Good, well coached teams can shoehorn youngsters and fringe players into the team and still look half decent and play in a discernable style. They'll obviously be weaker and will often lose but they won't look completely clueless. It's very early days and we need to give duff time but I don't think you can blame the team looking utterly clueless on fielding a weaker team. It shouldn't happen and it has in the last three games following on from two poor performances against lowly opposition.
It feels to me like we're likely to continues to get found out once we're not playing the likes of Shrewsbury at home.
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Post by Amigo on Sept 3, 2024 23:21:56 GMT 1
Please tell me people aren't taking the game tonight seriously. If ever there was a nothing game it was tonight, just ignore it. Should we ignore the Rotherham game too? To ignore tonight would be missing the whole point of what is actually going on here. Granted tonight, in the grand scheme of things, is not the World Cup final but it's the way we are playing, the overall pattern of play, the same failings creeping in, this losing mentality. We actually finished tonight's game with 11 senior pros many of whom were Championship mainstays last season yet we've been beaten by 2 League sides in the last 3 games, put in a dogs doings performance in a league game, christ, this Bolton game could be totally explosive should we put in another shocker and lose. Where have I said we should ignore the Rotherham game? It had absolutely nothing to do with tonight so I didn't mention it so I can't understand why you've brought it up in relation to my post, it's a bit odd. 4 first team players came on for 20 minutes in a meaningless match, that the majority of fans aren't bothered about, you said yourself before the game that Doncaster were a decent side but the way the teams lined up it was basically a reserve game. If we'd won tonight nobody would care and this board would be silent but because we've lost it was the Champions League final. The Bolton game could be explosive?! Bolton who are 13 places and 5 points below us having scored a massive 2 goals this season but are suddenly Real Madrid? Talk about an overreaction.
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Post by benhomly on Sept 3, 2024 23:55:58 GMT 1
Doncaster made 8 changes and listening to Mr Duff i find a bit worrying. I naively believed relegation might help force a re-set, do an Ipswich. Don't know whether our 'international break' will help or be a hindering. 'Doing an Ipswich' would involve spending 4 seasons at this level before a meteoric rise to the Prem. Not sure many on here could take that.
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Sept 4, 2024 2:03:44 GMT 1
Could be bold post this but here goes โฆ Ive decided recently that Duff is a bit average. We might still get promotion but that wonโt be because of any masterful tactics or coaching on his part. And even if we do, our one dimension approach will get destroyed in the championship, thatโs not to mention his awful reading of the game and inability to spot who is playing well and who isnโt. He strikes me as a manager who calls things according to reputations and preconceived ideas. Heโs not a long term option and Iโd be amazed if heโs still our manager in 18 months timeโฆ even if we are promoted. We havenโt had a manager with new ideas since Wagner. Itโs the problem nowadays with all these boring Pep disciples who want to make a thousand passes rather than take risks FWIW in my opinion I don't think Wagner took any risks either. We were the lowest scoring team if I recall in the top 10 that season. In fact we were the 3rd worst scoring team in the top 15 that season. With only 56 goals scored. That's not taking risks either. What got us up there is we were tough to beat and conceded 58. So we ended the season with a negative goal difference. The only team in the top 10 with a negative goal difference too. The season before that we finished 19th and scored more with 59, and year prior to that where we finished 16th and scored 58 (once again more than our promotion season). Truth is we've not scored goals for 10 years plus since Lee Clark era. SO to the thread title "Are we shite again" I think we've been shite for years unfortunately. Coincidentally for the same amount of time we've not signed a goal scoring striker. Which probably should be added to the "Strikers" thread, but season before last we scored a measly 47, and our relegation last season we scored also again a measly 48. Which begs the question why we've not overstocked ourselves on strikers.
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Post by melbourneterrier on Sept 4, 2024 4:59:22 GMT 1
Im concerned we are losing. This club has an inherit losing culture since being in the Prem (play off season aside). Are these players (and im looking at the longer term players) capable of changing it? Can Evans and Wiles turn their form around? Can we get some fit strikers?....please?!
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