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Post by Detective Boyle on Sept 12, 2024 9:57:37 GMT 1
It’s pitiful how another summer window has gone and we’re starting with such a poor midfield 3. Need to hope Hodge is great and Kane slots in ahead of Hogg. I just don’t see Hogg being dropped though, at all. Nobody was saying that after the first 4 games. They're not poor at all, just having a blip. They certainly weren't deemed poor after the Posh game, all anyone was clamouring for was a forward. I said it. Never rated Wiles, don’t rate Hogg anymore. Seen far enough in the last few seasons and this season reaffirms the opinion. Neither are good enough in possession. I still hope there is a player in Evans, he was in the team of the year after all. Maybe he’s one that could well change his form around, |
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Post by mosher on Sept 12, 2024 10:10:16 GMT 1
Nobody was saying that after the first 4 games. They're not poor at all, just having a blip. They certainly weren't deemed poor after the Posh game, all anyone was clamouring for was a forward. I said it. Never rated Wiles, don’t rate Hogg anymore. Seen far enough in the last few seasons and this season reaffirms the opinion. Neither are good enough in possession. I still hope there is a player in Evans, he was in the team of the year after all. Maybe he’s one that could well change his form around, You must have been the vast minority then, because all I remember reading was how impressed people were by the improvement (barring the Hogg debacle) in midfield and how we were actually creating chances now, hence the calls for more/better strikers. People were even raving about Wiles being like having a new player. I think we can all agree that Hogg should be winding down his career though, can't remember anyone saying anything else about him, bar some folks slagging off those of us calling for him to be a bit-part player. This isn't a dig btw |
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 12, 2024 10:34:12 GMT 1
I said it. Never rated Wiles, don’t rate Hogg anymore. Seen far enough in the last few seasons and this season reaffirms the opinion. Neither are good enough in possession. I still hope there is a player in Evans, he was in the team of the year after all. Maybe he’s one that could well change his form around, You must have been the vast minority then, because all I remember reading was how impressed people were by the improvement (barring the Hogg debacle) in midfield and how we were actually creating chances now, hence the calls for more/better strikers. People were even raving about Wiles being like having a new player. I think we can all agree that Hogg should be winding down his career though, can't remember anyone saying anything else about him, bar some folks slagging off those of us calling for him to be a bit-part player. This isn't a dig btw I think plenty were carried away by Wiles scoring a couple of goals, without actually WATCHING him. He's continued where he left off (and it was visible in pre-season too), but to say so was ridiculed so plenty who have held that opinion will have held off it whilst a vocal majority were singing his praises and shooting down anything else. I'm with the poster above, although I do see a continuing role for Hogg through this season, he doesnt seem half as bad as is made out, he's simply INVOLVED in games a lot so the mistakes are obvious. Evans (like Wiles) has been the opposite of that involvement we see from Hogg so far, in the main he trundles anonymously through games, having hardly any impact on our ability to win or to not lose. The pair of them currently remind me a lot of watching Chris Holland floating through games doing not much wrong as we sunk down the leagues. We've seen it over an extended period of time from Wiles to know thats simply how he is, although he'll have periods of good outcomes this season because of the lower overall standard of football...the hope is that Evans is in a blip and he'll get past it and demonstrate real value towards our ability to pick up a load of points. BUT...some players simply just don't fit in, thats the risk, he may be one of them. Thankfully it looks like Iorpenda is more than capable of being given the responsibility and imposing himself, so we have options, we're not just being forced to play footballers we'd rather not be starting any given game because they're out of form, ill, carrying niggles etc etc. We've not had those realistic alternative options for some time, and it puts us in a much better state than we have been. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 12, 2024 10:37:06 GMT 1
If he does not score on saturday, i can see it now "still don't have a striker" lol.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2024 10:48:19 GMT 1
I said it. Never rated Wiles, don’t rate Hogg anymore. Seen far enough in the last few seasons and this season reaffirms the opinion. Neither are good enough in possession. I still hope there is a player in Evans, he was in the team of the year after all. Maybe he’s one that could well change his form around, You must have been the vast minority then, because all I remember reading was how impressed people were by the improvement (barring the Hogg debacle) in midfield and how we were actually creating chances now, hence the calls for more/better strikers. People were even raving about Wiles being like having a new player. I think we can all agree that Hogg should be winding down his career though, can't remember anyone saying anything else about him, bar some folks slagging off those of us calling for him to be a bit-part player. This isn't a dig btw I’m afraid Hogg may be our issue in midfield. If the opposition close him down we always push out wide. He is a great leader and breaks play up really well but he stops us moving forward down the middle of the pitch, especially quick breaks. I think this has been the case for a while. Club captain and mr dependable but we need to be able to use our midfield better or we are really one trick ponies, which we have looked in the last few games. It puts huge pressure on Miller and Sorensen and makes us easier to defend against. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 12, 2024 11:22:54 GMT 1
How come no interview yet? Doing the 2pm presser today. |
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Post by runner76 on Sept 12, 2024 11:41:29 GMT 1
How come no interview yet? Doing the 2pm presser today. Aye, seen that, but sometimes there are two, even three, snippets on the official site with player one on one chat and some highlights.....not had that yet |
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Post by ColchTerrier on Sept 12, 2024 11:56:42 GMT 1
McKenna (one of the best coaches out there) signed Ladapo as he thought he was a perfect striker to get Ipswich out of League 1 when he took over.
This proved to be the case, so that will do for me. Welcome Freddie!
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Post by rockwall on Sept 12, 2024 12:44:27 GMT 1
Doing the 2pm presser today. Aye, seen that, but sometimes there are two, even three, snippets on the official site with player one on one chat and some highlights.....not had that yet Presume with injuries and suspensions, Duff didn't want him wasting time doing it when he could be training. The usual spiel will more than likely be asked in the presser. |
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Post by stevehtfc on Sept 12, 2024 14:28:18 GMT 1
Take Ladapo over Harratt and Hudlin anyday
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Post by mosher on Sept 12, 2024 14:34:38 GMT 1
Impressed with the lad so far in the PC.
"I'm not here just to get personal glory and records, I'm here to help the team"
Or words to that effect.
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Post by runner76 on Sept 12, 2024 14:54:05 GMT 1
If any players want to see how to conduct themselves in a press conference, watch Freddie.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Sept 12, 2024 16:22:49 GMT 1
On the face of it, a good signing, but for all the clamouring for another striker, I'm more interested in how we are going to sort our defensive problems out, as that is without question where our biggest failings have been so far this season. There's only two teams who have conceded fewer than we have! All bar one of the clubs above us have scored more, as well as plenty of those below. Its goal scoring where the big gain is to be made...when you can average close to 2 goals per game like the top 6 are doing (bar Charlton), then you get away with the odd mistake at the back. Sorry but if you've been watching our games this season and only seeing 'the odd mistake at the back', you aren't paying close enough attention. |
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 12, 2024 17:26:21 GMT 1
There's only two teams who have conceded fewer than we have! All bar one of the clubs above us have scored more, as well as plenty of those below. Its goal scoring where the big gain is to be made...when you can average close to 2 goals per game like the top 6 are doing (bar Charlton), then you get away with the odd mistake at the back. Sorry but if you've been watching our games this season and only seeing 'the odd mistake at the back', you aren't paying close enough attention. ...in comparison to the expected level of mistakes for a team thats going to be in the top six we look ok to me. Defenders will always make mistakes and/or be exploited. |
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Post by Sio on Sept 12, 2024 17:30:40 GMT 1
Sorry but if you've been watching our games this season and only seeing 'the odd mistake at the back', you aren't paying close enough attention. ...in comparison to the expected level of mistakes for a team thats going to be in the top six we look ok to me. Defenders will always make mistakes and/or be exploited. Is xLOM the new xG? |
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Sept 12, 2024 17:35:08 GMT 1
Outstanding interview. Comes across as a well educated lovely guy.
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Post by cyberman on Sept 12, 2024 17:37:36 GMT 1
to the the Pigbag (aka Pavel Abbott tune)
Lad,,,,lad ....lad.....lad
Lada pppppoooohhhhhh
Simple effective and able to be sung by even those coked up on devils nose candy !
ps Before Jello B steps in......F**k Me Rigid !
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Sept 12, 2024 18:27:13 GMT 1
Yep, if he plays half as well as he interviews he'll be fine.
Came across as very mature & very humble, really looking forward to seeing him in a Town shirt.
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Sept 12, 2024 18:40:15 GMT 1
TBF he's had enough previous clubs and appropriate pressers to know how to conduct himself. Happy to wait and see if he can do it on the pitch too.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 12, 2024 18:50:56 GMT 1
Rumour that we tried to get him, couldn't do it for whatever reason.
Lapado bought himself out of his contract.
We snapped up a free player and gave him a signing on fee...
Maybe not as simple as picking up a free player as what people think.
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Post by BlueValour on Sept 12, 2024 22:33:00 GMT 1
Impressed with the lad so far in the PC. "I'm not here just to get personal glory and records, I'm here to help the team" Or words to that effect. Good sentiment but he is actually here to earn a living as are all players! |
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Post by ambryboy on Sept 13, 2024 0:38:33 GMT 1
TBF he's had enough previous clubs and appropriate pressers to know how to conduct himself. Happy to wait and see if he can do it on the pitch too. Yawwwwwn  |
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Post by cyberman on Sept 13, 2024 6:05:57 GMT 1
TBF he's had enough previous clubs and appropriate pressers to know how to conduct himself. Happy to wait and see if he can do it on the pitch too. Just be fcking happy for once ! - sweet jesus if we signed Harry Kane you would be fcking moaning |
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Sept 13, 2024 6:08:18 GMT 1
TBF he's had enough previous clubs and appropriate pressers to know how to conduct himself. Happy to wait and see if he can do it on the pitch too. Just be fcking happy for once ! - sweet jesus if we signed Harry Kane you would be fcking moaning You are misunderstanding unhappiness for cynicism |
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Post by mosher on Sept 13, 2024 8:33:27 GMT 1
Impressed with the lad so far in the PC. "I'm not here just to get personal glory and records, I'm here to help the team" Or words to that effect. Good sentiment but he is actually here to earn a living as are all players! Oh yeah, completely agree all players nowadays just pick up a wage n rarely have a true affiliation to the club, but you’ve got players like Hogg who give it their all despite limitations, n then ya get players like Pritchard who are just mercenaries in the true sense of the word! Sounds likes Lapado is the former but obviously could be just empty platitudes, hopefully not |
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 13, 2024 9:41:35 GMT 1
Good sentiment but he is actually here to earn a living as are all players! Oh yeah, completely agree all players nowadays just pick up a wage n rarely have a true affiliation to the club, but you’ve got players like Hogg who give it their all despite limitations, n then ya get players like Pritchard who are just mercenaries in the true sense of the word! Sounds likes Lapado is the former but obviously could be just empty platitudes, hopefully not I guess there's a school of thought that might suggest if Hogg wasn't giving his all here, he'd potentially have not had a club at all in the last 3 or 4 years. I would question whether Pritchard truly is a mercenary too or we're just blinkered by circumstance. 80 appearances over 4 seasons (two of those being short PL seasons), and then went on to 99 appearances over 3 seasons with Sunderland...he'd also stayed contracted to Spurs for 5 years and had two seasons at Norwich before joining us...that all seems like a pretty normal career really. The mistake is that he was signed by a PL club that didn't know what it was doing on and off the pitch and he wasn't really good enough to play at that level. |
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Post by kimbo999 on Sept 13, 2024 10:00:27 GMT 1
He's something different, from watching his goal highlights some quality goals but what I like is he seems to be able to read 2nd balls, getting in positions to score in the 6 yrd box.
Once kane is back pulling the strings could be very fruitful
Think if stays fit he will get 15-20 easily.
Feel a lot more positive, let's get behind the lad.
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Post by crux on Sept 13, 2024 10:03:46 GMT 1
TBF he's had enough previous clubs and appropriate pressers to know how to conduct himself. Happy to wait and see if he can do it on the pitch too. Just be fcking happy for once ! - sweet jesus if we signed Harry Kane you would be fcking moaning To be fair, Kane can be a bit shit nowadays 😒😉 |
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Post by mosher on Sept 13, 2024 10:29:46 GMT 1
Oh yeah, completely agree all players nowadays just pick up a wage n rarely have a true affiliation to the club, but you’ve got players like Hogg who give it their all despite limitations, n then ya get players like Pritchard who are just mercenaries in the true sense of the word! Sounds likes Lapado is the former but obviously could be just empty platitudes, hopefully not I guess there's a school of thought that might suggest if Hogg wasn't giving his all here, he'd potentially have not had a club at all in the last 3 or 4 years. I would question whether Pritchard truly is a mercenary too or we're just blinkered by circumstance. 80 appearances over 4 seasons (two of those being short PL seasons), and then went on to 99 appearances over 3 seasons with Sunderland...he'd also stayed contracted to Spurs for 5 years and had two seasons at Norwich before joining us...that all seems like a pretty normal career really. The mistake is that he was signed by a PL club that didn't know what it was doing on and off the pitch and he wasn't really good enough to play at that level. I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree here, especially on Pritchard. I used those two players as examples because they're polar opposites, or appear to be. Whilst Hogg came back barely two weeks after a suspected neck fracture, the ginger gnome (maybe mercenary was the incorrect word, but couldn't think of a more appropriate one, slacker perhaps?) was out for months with a fkn cyst. Your last line, you really can't resist a dig at the club can you  We can debate Hogg's usefulness in the past 3 years til the cows come home but nobody can doubt his commitment and attitude. Edit: the club may have been in shit state at that time but to use that to excuse Pritchard is daft IMO |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2024 10:57:15 GMT 1
I guess there's a school of thought that might suggest if Hogg wasn't giving his all here, he'd potentially have not had a club at all in the last 3 or 4 years. I would question whether Pritchard truly is a mercenary too or we're just blinkered by circumstance. 80 appearances over 4 seasons (two of those being short PL seasons), and then went on to 99 appearances over 3 seasons with Sunderland...he'd also stayed contracted to Spurs for 5 years and had two seasons at Norwich before joining us...that all seems like a pretty normal career really. The mistake is that he was signed by a PL club that didn't know what it was doing on and off the pitch and he wasn't really good enough to play at that level. I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree here, especially on Pritchard. I used those two players as examples because they're polar opposites, or appear to be. Whilst Hogg came back barely two weeks after a suspected neck fracture, the ginger gnome (maybe mercenary was the incorrect word, but couldn't think of a more appropriate one, slacker perhaps?) was out for months with a fkn cyst. Your last line, you really can't resist a dig at the club can you We can debate Hogg's usefulness in the past 3 years til the cows come home but nobody can doubt his commitment and attitude. Edit: the club may have been in shit state at that time but to use that to excuse Pritchard is daft IMO I believe Pritchard also threw his toys out of the pram at Sunderland to get an extended deal at Birmingham in January. Hardly played and is now playing in Turkey. I think mercenary isn't too strong a word given his behaviour with us. |
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