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Post by townarentbest on Oct 8, 2024 9:02:20 GMT 1
I'm guessing the folk decrying the corridor as bird brain idea that'll never happen don't go to Town matches from the direction of the town. The largest proposition of the framework is well underway with building through last season now in final fit and groundwork on the next site just starting. Lack of council funds has zero impact. That new building is part of the University and i can't see anywhere there just starting!! starting what. The Gasometre will be a few years before they can start to build anything due to the amount of industrial waste, so apart from where the flats use to be, where else have they started. Its development bang in the middle of "Proposition 1 - National Health Inovation Campus"...its STARTED, the first building is almost open! Groundworks have started on the next part of that proposition just over a week ago, maybe you can't see it because its behind a load of barriers!!? www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/work-latest-huddersfield-university-building-30037793The full development in that area and the other propositions will take years, and the masterplan may never be completely achieved, but, its HAPPENING...just like the development over at the other side of town is happening, as you can see where the old market hall no longer exists as of last week. These aren't hair-brained schemes like ski-slopes, they're strategic zoning decisions for bits of unused land attracting outside investment. You'll likely find once the NHIC is up and running, it will pull through development on the area described as "Old Leeds Rd development area" relatively quickly.
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Post by Niggled on Oct 8, 2024 9:17:08 GMT 1
Thats it, I'm not going to another Giants match until Town get that quid back, do you hear me Ken?......IMO I thought Dean over reacted initially & it was right that KD was repaid in full. Paid in full ? . His tenure cost him nothing . He got every penny back and more. We were propping up his poorly supported rugby club. It really boils my piss when I read someone spout " he saved us ". Did he fuck .
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Post by irverino on Oct 8, 2024 9:51:20 GMT 1
Thats it, I'm not going to another Giants match until Town get that quid back, do you hear me Ken?......IMO I thought Dean over reacted initially & it was right that KD was repaid in full. Paid in full ? . His tenure cost him nothing . He got every penny back and more. We were propping up his poorly supported rugby club. It really boils my piss when I read someone spout " he saved us ". Did he fuck . Yes we know he did, it said so in the Examiner (£1).........But the guy who works down the chip shop said it was TWO MILLION, give or take a pound or two.
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Post by TTCMatt on Oct 8, 2024 12:30:46 GMT 1
Is this the same ken who valued our ground shares at £2 and didn't put a penny in . The same ken who got £2 million when he sold them back to the club . The same ken who saved our club. Did he fuck he knew the rugby couldn't afford to play in the stadium without its football cashcow. If it is the same ken tell him to fuck off and boil his head. The same Ken who lied and said HIS was the only viable option. When it wasn't; there were THREE other bids that were all acceptable to the admins, but he added that he'd pay more of the debt to Kirklees and got his bid pushed through. I'd love if someone higher up than me in FFA would post everything we learned on here, some fans would be surprised. But no, we're all myopic RL haters with an agenda. Who was the third bid? I remember Paul Haigh was putting some sort of consortium together, not sure about the third? Did Paul Haigh's consortium have that Scandinavian football agent involved as was that another offer? It all starts to blur after a while doesn't it
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Post by TTCMatt on Oct 8, 2024 12:41:16 GMT 1
Paid in full ? . His tenure cost him nothing . He got every penny back and more. We were propping up his poorly supported rugby club. It really boils my piss when I read someone spout " he saved us ". Did he fuck . Yes we know he did, it said so in the Examiner (£1).........But the guy who works down the chip shop said it was TWO MILLION, give or take a pound or two. I've always thought that if you buy a club like ours you should be prepared to burden the losses. However, I think this essentially became about 2 blokes ego's rather than about the football club. Re Ken; from memory there were some questionable things that he did such as taking out a loan in the football clubs name to extend the Riverside stand when we technically didn't own any of the stadium and changing the rental formula early on? Moving the shares away from liability made sense, but the clandestine way he did it didn't sit well with anyone, especially as he hadn't earnt the trust of the football fans, so it sewed seeds of mistrust. When questioned, Ken was abysmal at explaining himself but I guess this comes from him never having to explain his actions to anyone but a small board.
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Post by mosher on Oct 8, 2024 13:11:03 GMT 1
The same Ken who lied and said HIS was the only viable option. When it wasn't; there were THREE other bids that were all acceptable to the admins, but he added that he'd pay more of the debt to Kirklees and got his bid pushed through. I'd love if someone higher up than me in FFA would post everything we learned on here, some fans would be surprised. But no, we're all myopic RL haters with an agenda. Who was the third bid? I remember Paul Haigh was putting some sort of consortium together, not sure about the third? Did Paul Haigh's consortium have that Scandinavian football agent involved as was that another offer? It all starts to blur after a while doesn't it I might be misremembering, it could have been three bids INCLUDING Davy's rather than plus. You're right about everything blurring
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 8, 2024 14:29:40 GMT 1
I’m a lad from Huddersfield who loves both the football club and the RL club maybe or maybe not I’m in the minority ... but there should be some mutual respect from everyone. ...after all we didn’t ask for that Shuddersfield merger it was met with disdain by nearly the entirety of fans and rightly so it was a Davy asset stripping exercise and there was even an organised March against it at the time . Now history is about to be repeated because the talk of a new stadium is a red herring it serves two purposes at present. Firstly it detracts from the shit performances on the field and the shitshow behind the scenes that’s been prevalent for years. Secondly it is to appease the rugby fans into going along with Ken relinquishing his stadium shares in the first place with he hope of a return to the promised land Fartown or another stadium. Any move away will result in Huddersfield Giants playing at the shay as a merger with Halifax or as tenants and paying rent , in fact this hasn’t been ruled out by the Huddersfield Giants supporters club when irate fans recently brought this up on Facebook. Looking from a Town point of view owning the stadium should make the club more attractive to potential buyers in the future. it’s a win win for the football club for sure but the biggest winner is Nagle. This is why he is here to get the ownership sell up and make a profit., that’s the agenda.He’s not bothered about the stuff on the grass, he’s thousands of miles away, this is an investment adventure, this is what wealthy businessmen do just a game of monopoly to them.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 8, 2024 14:39:43 GMT 1
Bore off all you Giants haters, Rugby league is a man's game It’s not the Giants pal it’s Fartown but I get your sentiments
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 8, 2024 14:43:32 GMT 1
Whatever floats your boat, normally Leeds utd fans when I've been to Batley or Dewsbury RL grounds, the hatred for davey is pathetic on this board, who took more money ken or hoyle, who pulled club out of shit?, dont really have to answer that do I? Ken,, by a long way. You think ?
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Post by Orinoco on Oct 8, 2024 14:44:45 GMT 1
I’m a lad from Huddersfield who loves both the football club and the RL club maybe or maybe not I’m in the minority ... but there should be some mutual respect from everyone. ...after all we didn’t ask for that Shuddersfield merger it was met with disdain by nearly the entirety of fans and rightly so it was a Davy asset stripping exercise and there was even an organised March against it at the time . Now history is about to be repeated because the talk of a new stadium is a red herring it serves two purposes at present. Firstly it detracts from the shit performances on the field and the shitshow behind the scenes that’s been prevalent for years. Secondly it is to appease the rugby fans into going along with Ken relinquishing his stadium shares in the first place with he hope of a return to the promised land Fartown or another stadium. Any move away will result in Huddersfield Giants playing at the shay as a merger with Halifax or as tenants and paying rent , in fact this hasn’t been ruled out by the Huddersfield Giants supporters club when irate fans recently brought this up on Facebook. Looking from a Town point of view owning the stadium should make the club more attractive to potential buyers in the future. it’s a win win for the football club for sure but the biggest winner is Nagle. This is why he is here to get the ownership sell up and make a profit., that’s the agenda.He’s not bothered about the stuff on the grass, he’s thousands of miles away, this is an investment adventure, this is what wealthy businessmen do just a game of monopoly to them. I know plenty who follow both teams, I know plenty of Town fans who hate Giants and vice versa, everyone has their opinion on the subject, i hope the solution suits both clubs. Great post by the way.👍
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 8, 2024 14:48:48 GMT 1
It's not a mosque at all. My grandson trains with his junior football side there so its certainly in use for sport still. As far as I'm aware there is still a rugby pitch there too. I'm 90% certain it IS a mosque having driven past a couple of weeks ago. The old pavilion is a mosque but the site is huge the pitch and over grown terracing is actually owned by Ken Davy as been for a number of years , few people know that and the cricket field is to the best of my knowledge under council stewardship
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Post by Orinoco on Oct 8, 2024 14:52:41 GMT 1
I'm 90% certain it IS a mosque having driven past a couple of weeks ago. The old pavilion is a mosque but the site is huge the pitch and over grown terracing is actually owned by Ken Davy as been for a number of years , few people know that and the cricket field is to the best of my knowledge under council stewardship St Joseph ARLFC play on it, the original floodlights are still there and so is the cricket pitch.
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Post by Underdog on Oct 8, 2024 15:01:56 GMT 1
That new building is part of the University and i can't see anywhere there just starting!! starting what. The Gasometre will be a few years before they can start to build anything due to the amount of industrial waste, so apart from where the flats use to be, where else have they started. Its development bang in the middle of "Proposition 1 - National Health Inovation Campus"...its STARTED, the first building is almost open! Groundworks have started on the next part of that proposition just over a week ago, maybe you can't see it because its behind a load of barriers!!? www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/work-latest-huddersfield-university-building-30037793The full development in that area and the other propositions will take years, and the masterplan may never be completely achieved, but, its HAPPENING...just like the development over at the other side of town is happening, as you can see where the old market hall no longer exists as of last week. These aren't hair-brained schemes like ski-slopes, they're strategic zoning decisions for bits of unused land attracting outside investment. You'll likely find once the NHIC is up and running, it will pull through development on the area described as "Old Leeds Rd development area" relatively quickly. Where are the ski lifts that Barry "Birdbrain" Sheerman wanted???
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Post by soapystevens on Oct 8, 2024 15:40:36 GMT 1
I remember watching Yorkshire play at Fartown in the old John Player Sunday league but sadly they can't go back there due to the lack of parking.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 8, 2024 15:52:14 GMT 1
The old pavilion is a mosque but the site is huge the pitch and over grown terracing is actually owned by Ken Davy as been for a number of years , few people know that and the cricket field is to the best of my knowledge under council stewardship St Joseph ARLFC play on it, the original floodlights are still there and so is the cricket pitch. Yeah I went down the other week pal really sad
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Post by mids on Oct 8, 2024 16:08:42 GMT 1
Thats it, I'm not going to another Giants match until Town get that quid back, do you hear me Ken?......IMO I thought Dean over reacted initially & it was right that KD was repaid in full. Smoke, mirrors, spin, and good PR eh...it was a fascinating time that's for sure. I wonder if Ken's biography will mention the time he rung me at home, and I was in the bath, and he still insisted on chatting to/threatening me for 20 minutes... ...or the time I (and several others) were doing a charity collection in The White Rose Lounge before a game. The rest of his table (he was there in his role of 'Life President'...a title he demanded!!) threw notes into the bucket, but he threw in a handful of coppers
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Post by mids on Oct 8, 2024 16:12:39 GMT 1
Yes we know he did, it said so in the Examiner (£1).........But the guy who works down the chip shop said it was TWO MILLION, give or take a pound or two. I've always thought that if you buy a club like ours you should be prepared to burden the losses. However, I think this essentially became about 2 blokes ego's rather than about the football club. Re Ken; from memory there were some questionable things that he did such as taking out a loan in the football clubs name to extend the Riverside stand when we technically didn't own any of the stadium and changing the rental formula early on? Moving the shares away from liability made sense, but the clandestine way he did it didn't sit well with anyone, especially as he hadn't earnt the trust of the football fans, so it sewed seeds of mistrust. When questioned, Ken was abysmal at explaining himself but I guess this comes from him never having to explain his actions to anyone but a small board. The Zone was funded 'interestingly' or so I remember time blurs the memories though
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 8, 2024 16:41:29 GMT 1
KSDL's late accounts for year to end of July 2023 finally filed.
A loss of £1m, compared to £1.9m previous year.
Net profit of just £65k for the Muse concert 🫨
Mentions intent of Kirklees to withdraw from KSDL ownership whilst retaining the freehold of the site. Hudds Town FC have indicated they intend to continue to fund the cashflow requirements of KSDL for at least 12months from the signing off of this balance sheet (so KSDL remains considered a viable going concern through this year).
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Post by Orinoco on Oct 8, 2024 17:24:47 GMT 1
St Joseph ARLFC play on it, the original floodlights are still there and so is the cricket pitch. Yeah I went down the other week pal really sad Seen some big crowds in that venue over the years (I'm 58), look at some of the football clubs who are surrounded by housing, they survive, I would never take a vehicle to a sports ground again after getting my Escort MK2 knicked off Barr Street at a Town night game whilst in the Leeds! Road era, fans cars are sitting ducks!!.
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Oct 8, 2024 17:31:50 GMT 1
Yeah I went down the other week pal really sad Seen some big crowds in that venue over the years (I'm 58), look at some of the football clubs who are surrounded by housing, they survive, I would never take a vehicle to a sports ground again after getting my Escort MK2 knicked off Barr Street at a Town night game whilst in the Leeds! Road era, fans cars are sitting ducks!!. And I'd not walk from town to there for a night game these days.
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Post by TTCMatt on Oct 8, 2024 18:09:32 GMT 1
Who was the third bid? I remember Paul Haigh was putting some sort of consortium together, not sure about the third? Did Paul Haigh's consortium have that Scandinavian football agent involved as was that another offer? It all starts to blur after a while doesn't it I might be misremembering, it could have been three bids INCLUDING Davy's rather than plus. You're right about everything blurring I did find something courtesy of a popular board member on here. In April 2003, three consortiums were said to be interested, one led by local businessman Martin Byrne, another by former director Paul Haigh and a third from Norway. Byrne and Haigh both declared at a Survival Trust meeting that they’d be submitting bids to the administrators.
The Survival Trust then organised a charity match on 11th May 2003 between Town All Stars and the Wembley Wizards, where a number of former Town players turned out for teams managed by former Town boss Peter Jackson and his assistant Terry Yorath. This match raised £60,000 of much-needed funds in front of a crowd of around 6,500.
Importantly, former chairman Terry Fisher was also in attendance and days later he announced his intention to help his former club. Peter Jackson also declared his interest in the manager’s job around that time.
Then, on May 13th it was announced that Fisher would join forces with Huddersfield Giants owner Ken Davy to save the club, with the bid also including Martin Byrne and Vidar Fossdal. The bid was accepted by the administrators the following day and Fisher and Davy were granted a week of ‘exclusivity’ to finalise their bid.
Negotiations then began with the creditors, which included former owner Barry Rubery, who was owed £12.5m. In total, it was thought that Town’s debts totalled £20m. Rubery waived the £12.5m and David Taylor waived £800,000.
The Survival Trust raised £100,000 and had a provisional place in the Northern Counties East League should they need to reform as A.F.C. Huddersfield Town.
Terry Fisher pulled out of the consortium towards the end of June and Fossdal ceased to be involved in July after being involved with a failed bid to buy Oldham Athletic.
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Oct 8, 2024 18:13:16 GMT 1
I might be misremembering, it could have been three bids INCLUDING Davy's rather than plus. You're right about everything blurring I did find something courtesy of a popular board member on here. In April 2003, three consortiums were said to be interested, one led by local businessman Martin Byrne, another by former director Paul Haigh and a third from Norway. Byrne and Haigh both declared at a Survival Trust meeting that they’d be submitting bids to the administrators.
The Survival Trust then organised a charity match on 11th May 2003 between Town All Stars and the Wembley Wizards, where a number of former Town players turned out for teams managed by former Town boss Peter Jackson and his assistant Terry Yorath. This match raised £60,000 of much-needed funds in front of a crowd of around 6,500.
Importantly, former chairman Terry Fisher was also in attendance and days later he announced his intention to help his former club. Peter Jackson also declared his interest in the manager’s job around that time.
Then, on May 13th it was announced that Fisher would join forces with Huddersfield Giants owner Ken Davy to save the club, with the bid also including Martin Byrne and Vidar Fossdal. The bid was accepted by the administrators the following day and Fisher and Davy were granted a week of ‘exclusivity’ to finalise their bid.
Negotiations then began with the creditors, which included former owner Barry Rubery, who was owed £12.5m. In total, it was thought that Town’s debts totalled £20m. Rubery waived the £12.5m and David Taylor waived £800,000.
The Survival Trust raised £100,000 and had a provisional place in the Northern Counties East League should they need to reform as A.F.C. Huddersfield Town.
Terry Fisher pulled out of the consortium towards the end of June and Fossdal ceased to be involved in July after being involved with a failed bid to buy Oldham Athletic.Fair enough, it might have only been pennies on the pound, but credit to Rubery for agreeing to walk away with nothing. As for David Taylor, that just reminds me of what a thoroughly decent man and top Town fan he is.
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Post by Orinoco on Oct 8, 2024 19:12:40 GMT 1
Seen some big crowds in that venue over the years (I'm 58), look at some of the football clubs who are surrounded by housing, they survive, I would never take a vehicle to a sports ground again after getting my Escort MK2 knicked off Barr Street at a Town night game whilst in the Leeds! Road era, fans cars are sitting ducks!!. And I'd not walk from town to there for a night game these days. Same anywhere after dark our days, TBH no different in daylight!!. Horrible world we live in now.
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Post by Big Ern on Oct 8, 2024 20:06:02 GMT 1
Who was the third bid? I remember Paul Haigh was putting some sort of consortium together, not sure about the third? Did Paul Haigh's consortium have that Scandinavian football agent involved as was that another offer? It all starts to blur after a while doesn't it I might be misremembering, it could have been three bids INCLUDING Davy's rather than plus. You're right about everything blurring Maybe my mind is playing tricks but wasn't the former Hull owner (Pearson I think he was called) interested at some point? Might have tried to buy the club from Davy before Hoyle though.
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Post by mosher on Oct 8, 2024 20:09:57 GMT 1
I might be misremembering, it could have been three bids INCLUDING Davy's rather than plus. You're right about everything blurring Maybe my mind is playing tricks but wasn't the former Hull owner (Pearson I think he was called) interested at some point? Might have tried to buy the club from Davy before Hoyle though. Yeah I remember something about Pearson (Adam?) too, think it was before DH but like you I’m unsure Alcohol has a lot to answer for 😂
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Post by Big Ern on Oct 8, 2024 20:12:09 GMT 1
Maybe my mind is playing tricks but wasn't the former Hull owner (Pearson I think he was called) interested at some point? Might have tried to buy the club from Davy before Hoyle though. Yeah I remember something about Pearson (Adam?) too, think it was before DH but like you I’m unsure Alcohol has a lot to answer for 😂 It's age for me 😂
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Post by Orinoco on Oct 8, 2024 20:37:27 GMT 1
Adam Pearson put a 3 million plus bid in for Town in 2007, he is a Town fan, his bid was rejected, he went onto Derby in 2009, was not well loved!!
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Oct 8, 2024 21:00:32 GMT 1
Adam Pearson put a 3 million plus bid in for Town in 2007, he is a Town fan, his bid was rejected, he went onto Derby in 2009, was not well loved!! He's an absolute chancer. Spends other people's money. Just ensures he gets a well paid job at every club he's been involved in. None of his former involvements has good to say about him. Ask Hull FC fans what they currently reckon to his stewardship!
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Oct 8, 2024 21:17:05 GMT 1
I’m a lad from Huddersfield who loves both the football club and the RL club maybe or maybe not I’m in the minority ... but there should be some mutual respect from everyone. ...after all we didn’t ask for that Shuddersfield merger it was met with disdain by nearly the entirety of fans and rightly so it was a Davy asset stripping exercise and there was even an organised March against it at the time . Now history is about to be repeated because the talk of a new stadium is a red herring it serves two purposes at present. Firstly it detracts from the shit performances on the field and the shitshow behind the scenes that’s been prevalent for years. Secondly it is to appease the rugby fans into going along with Ken relinquishing his stadium shares in the first place with he hope of a return to the promised land Fartown or another stadium. Any move away will result in Huddersfield Giants playing at the shay as a merger with Halifax or as tenants and paying rent , in fact this hasn’t been ruled out by the Huddersfield Giants supporters club when irate fans recently brought this up on Facebook. Looking from a Town point of view owning the stadium should make the club more attractive to potential buyers in the future. it’s a win win for the football club for sure but the biggest winner is Nagle. This is why he is here to get the ownership sell up and make a profit., that’s the agenda.He’s not bothered about the stuff on the grass, he’s thousands of miles away, this is an investment adventure, this is what wealthy businessmen do just a game of monopoly to them. Cracking post. Think if we all put our real world/business hats on it’s pretty obvious to see what you’re saying about Nagle is most likely spot on.
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Post by jqhtfc on Oct 8, 2024 21:47:27 GMT 1
The old pavilion is a mosque but the site is huge the pitch and over grown terracing is actually owned by Ken Davy as been for a number of years , few people know that and the cricket field is to the best of my knowledge under council stewardship St Joseph ARLFC play on it, the original floodlights are still there and so is the cricket pitch. Not sure it’s been used as much as it was as st joes merged with Lindley, not been upto fartown for years since I stopped rl coaching I’m guessing it’s worse now than it was then.
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