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Post by Orinoco on Oct 8, 2024 21:47:55 GMT 1
I’m a lad from Huddersfield who loves both the football club and the RL club maybe or maybe not I’m in the minority ... but there should be some mutual respect from everyone. ...after all we didn’t ask for that Shuddersfield merger it was met with disdain by nearly the entirety of fans and rightly so it was a Davy asset stripping exercise and there was even an organised March against it at the time . Now history is about to be repeated because the talk of a new stadium is a red herring it serves two purposes at present. Firstly it detracts from the shit performances on the field and the shitshow behind the scenes that’s been prevalent for years. Secondly it is to appease the rugby fans into going along with Ken relinquishing his stadium shares in the first place with he hope of a return to the promised land Fartown or another stadium. Any move away will result in Huddersfield Giants playing at the shay as a merger with Halifax or as tenants and paying rent , in fact this hasn’t been ruled out by the Huddersfield Giants supporters club when irate fans recently brought this up on Facebook. Looking from a Town point of view owning the stadium should make the club more attractive to potential buyers in the future. it’s a win win for the football club for sure but the biggest winner is Nagle. This is why he is here to get the ownership sell up and make a profit., that’s the agenda.He’s not bothered about the stuff on the grass, he’s thousands of miles away, this is an investment adventure, this is what wealthy businessmen do just a game of monopoly to them. Cracking post. Think if we all put our real world/business hats on it’s pretty obvious to see what you’re saying about Nagle is most likely spot on. It is a cracking post!!. |
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 8, 2024 23:13:02 GMT 1
I might be misremembering, it could have been three bids INCLUDING Davy's rather than plus. You're right about everything blurring  Maybe my mind is playing tricks but wasn't the former Hull owner (Pearson I think he was called) interested at some point? Might have tried to buy the club from Davy before Hoyle though. Absolute charlatan who duped a lot of otherwise sensible people into doing his dirty work to try and force an aggrewsive sale of the club publicly. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Oct 9, 2024 2:51:10 GMT 1
Bore off all you Giants haters, Rugby league is a man's game It’s not the Giants pal it’s Fartown but I get your sentiments HUDDERSFIELD in there somewhere along the way ! 😉 🏈 |
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Post by ram on Oct 9, 2024 10:43:18 GMT 1
St Joseph ARLFC play on it, the original floodlights are still there and so is the cricket pitch. Not sure it’s been used as much as it was as st joes merged with Lindley, not been upto fartown for years since I stopped rl coaching I’m guessing it’s worse now than it was then. It will be if its owt like my garden since the covid lockdown. |
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Post by soapystevens on Oct 9, 2024 16:42:24 GMT 1
There is a video online somewhere of what Fartown is like now and it's just a crying shame that a famous old ground has gone to rack and ruin.
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 15, 2024 17:17:42 GMT 1
The council have agreed to hand over their 40% KSDL share to the football club, whilst retaining the freehold of the land the stadium sits on along with freehold of land off Gasworks Street.
Deputy Leader of Kirklees Council, Cllr Moses Crook, said: “The Council has been working with its partners over the past couple of years to secure the future of the stadium as a top-class venue for sport, entertainment, and wider community benefit.
“The stadium needs a long-term plan for its investment and management. We’ve agreed with partners that the best model for that is to transfer the council’s interest to the football club who can take the venue forward and give it the investment it needs.
“Over the years, the council has provided investment into the stadium in the form of loans which will now be written off as part of the agreement. But this decision also means that the Gasworks Street site will be transferred to the council, bringing with it major regeneration potential for the Huddersfield economy.
“With our ambitious plans for the station to stadium corridor in Huddersfield, which is already benefiting from investment by the university and its designation as an Investment Zone, this is another bonus for the local economy.”
Councillor Crook added: “We’ve been working closely and constructively with our partners at both sports clubs on this issue and we plan to complete this process as soon as the necessary legal procedures have been completed.”
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 15, 2024 17:23:31 GMT 1
The council have agreed to hand over their 40% KSDL share to the football club, whilst retaining the freehold of the land the stadium sits on along with freehold of land off Gasworks Street. Deputy Leader of Kirklees Council, Cllr Moses Crook, said: “The Council has been working with its partners over the past couple of years to secure the future of the stadium as a top-class venue for sport, entertainment, and wider community benefit. “The stadium needs a long-term plan for its investment and management. We’ve agreed with partners that the best model for that is to transfer the council’s interest to the football club who can take the venue forward and give it the investment it needs. “Over the years, the council has provided investment into the stadium in the form of loans which will now be written off as part of the agreement. But this decision also means that the Gasworks Street site will be transferred to the council, bringing with it major regeneration potential for the Huddersfield economy. “With our ambitious plans for the station to stadium corridor in Huddersfield, which is already benefiting from investment by the university and its designation as an Investment Zone, this is another bonus for the local economy.” Councillor Crook added: “We’ve been working closely and constructively with our partners at both sports clubs on this issue and we plan to complete this process as soon as the necessary legal procedures have been completed.” Moses Crook is the the most apt name for a Kirklees councillor. The 'station to stadium' corridor is just more pie in the sky nonsense from them. |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Oct 15, 2024 18:06:01 GMT 1
Typical council garbage. They have attracted nothing to Huddersfield and all this talk about a station corridor, how long have they been talking about this. You only have to look at Castle Hill and the George Hotel, ambitious plans!!.
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 15, 2024 18:08:43 GMT 1
The council have agreed to hand over their 40% KSDL share to the football club, whilst retaining the freehold of the land the stadium sits on along with freehold of land off Gasworks Street. Deputy Leader of Kirklees Council, Cllr Moses Crook, said: “The Council has been working with its partners over the past couple of years to secure the future of the stadium as a top-class venue for sport, entertainment, and wider community benefit. “The stadium needs a long-term plan for its investment and management. We’ve agreed with partners that the best model for that is to transfer the council’s interest to the football club who can take the venue forward and give it the investment it needs. “Over the years, the council has provided investment into the stadium in the form of loans which will now be written off as part of the agreement. But this decision also means that the Gasworks Street site will be transferred to the council, bringing with it major regeneration potential for the Huddersfield economy. “With our ambitious plans for the station to stadium corridor in Huddersfield, which is already benefiting from investment by the university and its designation as an Investment Zone, this is another bonus for the local economy.” Councillor Crook added: “We’ve been working closely and constructively with our partners at both sports clubs on this issue and we plan to complete this process as soon as the necessary legal procedures have been completed.” Moses Crook is the the most apt name for a Kirklees councillor. The 'station to stadium' corridor is just more pie in the sky nonsense from them. And yet there's millions of pounds worth of development going on in that nonsense corridor, right now 🤷♂️ - and will continue to be for years to come. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 15, 2024 18:14:47 GMT 1
Moses Crook is the the most apt name for a Kirklees councillor. The 'station to stadium' corridor is just more pie in the sky nonsense from them. And yet there's millions of pounds worth of development going on in that nonsense corridor, right now 🤷♂️ - and will continue to be for years to come. How much of the £250m did Kirklees contribute to the University health and innovation centre? |
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Post by goodbet on Oct 15, 2024 18:19:27 GMT 1
It’s not the Giants pal it’s Fartown but I get your sentiments HUDDERSFIELD in there somewhere along the way ! 😉 🏈 So was Sheffield! |
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Oct 15, 2024 18:59:03 GMT 1
Fartown remember it well, used to walk past the old ground on the way home from Huddersfield's equivalent of Eton College.
Good luck to the Giants.
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Post by terrierneil on Oct 15, 2024 23:41:20 GMT 1
Station to stadium corridor lol. Thousands spent turning the footpath fans need to walk on into a pointless cycle path.
Hopefully they bulldoze that depressing farmfoods shed next.
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 15, 2024 23:56:50 GMT 1
And yet there's millions of pounds worth of development going on in that nonsense corridor, right now 🤷♂️ - and will continue to be for years to come. How much of the £250m did Kirklees contribute to the University health and innovation centre? Hopefully nothing. What’s that got to do with anything? The Leeds Rd corridor is designed to attract investment from the private sector, that its doing that through developments like the National Health Innovation Campus is demonstrating its working. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Oct 16, 2024 2:08:50 GMT 1
HUDDERSFIELD in there somewhere along the way ! 😉 🏈 So was Sheffield! S d R f G S U d e S i L 🏈 🏈 🏈 I T h E d A N |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Oct 16, 2024 5:47:34 GMT 1
Why are people so anti redevelopment of this great town? I find it weird, maybe people like the town as it is? On its knees?
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Post by shawsie on Oct 16, 2024 7:18:08 GMT 1
Why are people so anti redevelopment of this great town? I find it weird, maybe people like the town as it is? On its knees? Much easier to carp at those trying to redevelop rather than work collaboratively for positive change. |
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Oct 16, 2024 8:27:50 GMT 1
And yet there's millions of pounds worth of development going on in that nonsense corridor, right now 🤷♂️ - and will continue to be for years to come. How much of the £250m did Kirklees contribute to the University health and innovation centre? I'd hope zero, they should be enablers and facilitators not investors. |
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 16, 2024 9:41:53 GMT 1
Why are people so anti redevelopment of this great town? I find it weird, maybe people like the town as it is? On its knees? Agreed, it’s weird how people talk about the University in derogatory terms. If they weren’t investing and building the Town would be a wasteland. |
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 16, 2024 10:26:16 GMT 1
Why are people so anti redevelopment of this great town? I find it weird, maybe people like the town as it is? On its knees? Agreed, it’s weird how people talk about the University in derogatory terms. If they weren’t investing and building the Town would be a wasteland. The whole attitude is weird, and doesn't make sense. The Stadium to Station corridor is a small part of the overall 10 year blueprint, effectively re-zoning the town, and the council has invested and secured funding for cornerstoning some development and encouraged private investment into other parts of the blueprint, whilst bringing in some outside developments to be encompassed and embraced by the blueprint (such as the TPE Upgrade and what that enables) - things are happening, some will take a long time and might never fully come to fruition, some have zipped along, and more stuff is happening RIGHT NOW. Its right there visible, its not hidden away. The indoor market has been flattened and no longer exists, the NHIC is well and truly underway, the Kingsgate update is nearly complete, the road system along Leeds Rd in towards the direction of the train station has been completely reworked, the TPE Upgrade is powering ahead. The only explanation for me is some people are paying for a hijack experience, being hooded and bundled into a car at home and the next thing they know is they're dumped at the stadium turnstile. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Oct 16, 2024 11:32:15 GMT 1
Why are people so anti redevelopment of this great town? I find it weird, maybe people like the town as it is? On its knees? Folk moan when nowt happens and then moan when stuff does start to happen. Dour Yorkshireman syndrome. |
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Post by menstonterrier on Oct 16, 2024 11:39:57 GMT 1
Why are people so anti redevelopment of this great town? I find it weird, maybe people like the town as it is? On its knees? Probably because an awful lot of us have no connection with Huddersfield apart from the football team. I lived in North Kirklees for over 50 years and only ever went to Huddersfield for football matches, nothing else. |
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Post by twyford on Oct 16, 2024 12:05:29 GMT 1
The council have agreed to hand over their 40% KSDL share to the football club, whilst retaining the freehold of the land the stadium sits on along with freehold of land off Gasworks Street. Deputy Leader of Kirklees Council, Cllr Moses Crook, said: “The Council has been working with its partners over the past couple of years to secure the future of the stadium as a top-class venue for sport, entertainment, and wider community benefit. “The stadium needs a long-term plan for its investment and management. We’ve agreed with partners that the best model for that is to transfer the council’s interest to the football club who can take the venue forward and give it the investment it needs. “Over the years, the council has provided investment into the stadium in the form of loans which will now be written off as part of the agreement. But this decision also means that the Gasworks Street site will be transferred to the council, bringing with it major regeneration potential for the Huddersfield economy. “With our ambitious plans for the station to stadium corridor in Huddersfield, which is already benefiting from investment by the university and its designation as an Investment Zone, this is another bonus for the local economy.” Councillor Crook added: “We’ve been working closely and constructively with our partners at both sports clubs on this issue and we plan to complete this process as soon as the necessary legal procedures have been completed.” So presumably there is a lease in place between KSDL and the Council covering the land that the stadium (and sports centre etc?) occupies. Does anyone know the terms of the lease - how long and what the ground rent is? Hopefully, for the club and Nagle, this was a 999 year lease at a peppercorn rent. If it was a shorter term lease then given we're c30 years into it, the council could still cause problems for the club when it came to renegotiating it. I notice that you're indicating the Council's shares are being 'handed' to the football club and whilst the council appear to be writing off the loans they provided to KDSL they are getting the freehold to the gasworks land which KDSL acquired to facilitate the non progressed HD1 redevelopment. It's the least I'd expect if I was a local council tax payer but it will limit any redevelopment plans which Nagle had for the wider site to compliment his plans for the stadium. |
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Post by bluebeard on Oct 16, 2024 15:10:01 GMT 1
The biggest place in the country not to have a direct rail line to London. The roads are appalling, no new road schemes for over 50 years, you go to far smaller places than Huddersfield and they have by passes, new roads, infact everything that Huddersfield hasn't got. Huddersfield was a lovely Town and famous for many things that were made here, not any more.
Both our professional sporting teams, Town and The Giants were the biggest names in their sports until the 60's onwards and since then they have only had limited success.
A Town the size of Huddersfield and they are finding it difficult for them to find somewhere suitable to build a new stadium.
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Post by leyburnterrier on Oct 16, 2024 15:13:10 GMT 1
So does the council keeping the freehold of the land mean KN will still be able to develop the site or not?
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 16, 2024 15:20:43 GMT 1
So does the council keeping the freehold of the land mean KN will still be able to develop the site or not? I presume it’s more a covenants thing, so that they can approve whatever scheme is suggested, and that it won’t detract from the place. I’m no expert, but I think this is a good thing, because it’s unlikely to be owned by KN for eternity. Just a sensible protection measure I would think. |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Oct 16, 2024 15:35:21 GMT 1
The biggest place in the country not to have a direct rail line to London. The roads are appalling, no new road schemes for over 50 years, you go to far smaller places than Huddersfield and they have by passes, new roads, infact everything that Huddersfield hasn't got. Huddersfield was a lovely Town and famous for many things that were made here, not any more. Both our professional sporting teams, Town and The Giants were the biggest names in their sports until the 60's onwards and since then they have only had limited success. A Town the size of Huddersfield and they are finding it difficult for them to find somewhere suitable to build a new stadium. Bolton has no direct train to London and is bigger than Huddersfield. There have been roadworks to Leeds Road and the ring road for what seems like ages. Given the close proximity of the m62 what new roads of bypasses to we need? The size of the town doesn’t dictate how easy it is to build a new stadium. London is huge and Chelsea and QPR can’t find anywhere. The topography has a massive impact along with the amount of greenbelt that can be built upon. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Oct 16, 2024 16:02:12 GMT 1
The biggest place in the country not to have a direct rail line to London. The roads are appalling, no new road schemes for over 50 years, you go to far smaller places than Huddersfield and they have by passes, new roads, infact everything that Huddersfield hasn't got. Huddersfield was a lovely Town and famous for many things that were made here, not any more. Both our professional sporting teams, Town and The Giants were the biggest names in their sports until the 60's onwards and since then they have only had limited success. A Town the size of Huddersfield and they are finding it difficult for them to find somewhere suitable to build a new stadium. Bolton has no direct train to London and is bigger than Huddersfield. There have been roadworks to Leeds Road and the ring road for what seems like ages. Given the close proximity of the m62 what new roads of bypasses to we need? The size of the town doesn’t dictate how easy it is to build a new stadium. London is huge and Chelsea and QPR can’t find anywhere. The topography has a massive impact along with the amount of greenbelt that can be built upon. Major new road schemes, unless extremely necessary, are an environmental no no these days, rightly or wrongly. |
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Post by drewden on Oct 16, 2024 17:48:27 GMT 1
I’m a lad from Huddersfield who loves both the football club and the RL club maybe or maybe not I’m in the minority ... but there should be some mutual respect from everyone. ...after all we didn’t ask for that Shuddersfield merger it was met with disdain by nearly the entirety of fans and rightly so it was a Davy asset stripping exercise and there was even an organised March against it at the time . Now history is about to be repeated because the talk of a new stadium is a red herring it serves two purposes at present. Firstly it detracts from the shit performances on the field and the shitshow behind the scenes that’s been prevalent for years. Secondly it is to appease the rugby fans into going along with Ken relinquishing his stadium shares in the first place with he hope of a return to the promised land Fartown or another stadium. Any move away will result in Huddersfield Giants playing at the shay as a merger with Halifax or as tenants and paying rent , in fact this hasn’t been ruled out by the Huddersfield Giants supporters club when irate fans recently brought this up on Facebook. Looking from a Town point of view owning the stadium should make the club more attractive to potential buyers in the future. it’s a win win for the football club for sure but the biggest winner is Nagle. This is why he is here to get the ownership sell up and make a profit., that’s the agenda.He’s not bothered about the stuff on the grass, he’s thousands of miles away, this is an investment adventure, this is what wealthy businessmen do just a game of monopoly to them. Had all these thoughts buzzing around in my head for a while, your post is brilliant and put it to a tee, my other concerns is Dean Hoyle, the way he got Phil H. now Nagle, all business men who have greed in their blood, and used H.T.F.C as a cartel. |
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Post by King Neil on Oct 16, 2024 18:13:14 GMT 1
I’m a lad from Huddersfield who loves both the football club and the RL club maybe or maybe not I’m in the minority ... but there should be some mutual respect from everyone. ...after all we didn’t ask for that Shuddersfield merger it was met with disdain by nearly the entirety of fans and rightly so it was a Davy asset stripping exercise and there was even an organised March against it at the time . Now history is about to be repeated because the talk of a new stadium is a red herring it serves two purposes at present. Firstly it detracts from the shit performances on the field and the shitshow behind the scenes that’s been prevalent for years. Secondly it is to appease the rugby fans into going along with Ken relinquishing his stadium shares in the first place with he hope of a return to the promised land Fartown or another stadium. Any move away will result in Huddersfield Giants playing at the shay as a merger with Halifax or as tenants and paying rent , in fact this hasn’t been ruled out by the Huddersfield Giants supporters club when irate fans recently brought this up on Facebook. Looking from a Town point of view owning the stadium should make the club more attractive to potential buyers in the future. it’s a win win for the football club for sure but the biggest winner is Nagle. This is why he is here to get the ownership sell up and make a profit., that’s the agenda.He’s not bothered about the stuff on the grass, he’s thousands of miles away, this is an investment adventure, this is what wealthy businessmen do just a game of monopoly to them. Had all these thoughts buzzing around in my head for a while, your post is brilliant and put it to a tee, my other concerns is Dean Hoyle, the way he got Phil H. now Nagle, all business men who have greed in their blood, and used H.T.F.C as a cartel. Cartel? Where are my drugs? Did you get any? Have I been left out? |
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