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Post by Detective Boyle on Sept 23, 2024 20:15:05 GMT 1
The summer window didn’t have the clear our needed but in fairness this is because a lot were still contracted and no other club would touch them with a barge pole (Pearson, lees, Hogg, Headley, wiles). As such, we have a core of the team that still lack much ability to do the basics right, and they have a fragile mentality as we’ve seen in the last couple of years. I really do think this is a consolidating year where we will finish mid table, get rid of all the shit next summer and really push on next year.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Sept 23, 2024 20:22:33 GMT 1
The summer window didn’t have the clear our needed but in fairness this is because a lot were still contracted and no other club would touch them with a barge pole (Pearson, lees, Hogg, Headley, wiles). As such, we have a core of the team that still lack much ability to do the basics right, and they have a fragile mentality as we’ve seen in the last couple of years. I really do think this is a consolidating year where we will finish mid table, get rid of all the shit next summer and really push on next year. I think we will fair better than mid table, but will be nowhere near automatic . Play offs max but too many frustrating performances ahead is my guess. We reek of fragility on and off the pitch.
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Post by always a terrier on Sept 23, 2024 20:26:10 GMT 1
The summer window didn’t have the clear our needed but in fairness this is because a lot were still contracted and no other club would touch them with a barge pole (Pearson, lees, Hogg, Headley, wiles). As such, we have a core of the team that still lack much ability to do the basics right, and they have a fragile mentality as we’ve seen in the last couple of years. I really do think this is a consolidating year where we will finish mid table, get rid of all the shit next summer and really push on next year. Think that’s nail on the head there. Too many with a soft underbelly and not mentally strong enough. My fear is if we finish mid table this season then season tickets next season will be a hard sell that’s for sure. Going tomorrow night but I fear another defeat. Then we are away to Reading & Birmingham then a lunchtime kick off against Barnsley at home. Definitely a very tricky few fixtures there. And with this lot and there comments and fragile mentality I fear the worst over the next 4 games.
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 23, 2024 20:55:38 GMT 1
Duffs sides usually get better as a season goes on so far we’ve won 4 out of 6 league games and win tomorrow night we go 3rd, Saturday was rank bad we aren’t good enough for most players to have an off day and still win and we got a shock but the reaction too it is ridiculous to be honest.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Sept 23, 2024 21:12:19 GMT 1
We are mid table side, at best.
We will struggle against 'pool.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 23, 2024 21:58:26 GMT 1
Good that we have an opportunity to correct things quickly after a disappointing performance on Saturday. Good opportunity for the players and the supporters to make sure it was just an off day…
UTT!!!
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Post by willo on Sept 24, 2024 0:10:04 GMT 1
The summer window didn’t have the clear our needed but in fairness this is because a lot were still contracted and no other club would touch them with a barge pole (Pearson, lees, Hogg, Headley, wiles). As such, we have a core of the team that still lack much ability to do the basics right, and they have a fragile mentality as we’ve seen in the last couple of years. I really do think this is a consolidating year where we will finish mid table, get rid of all the shit next summer and really push on next year. I’ll say again, it’s always “next summer” with us.
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Post by duncfost01 on Sept 24, 2024 6:41:50 GMT 1
No excuses tonight.
It’s not that long ago Blackpool were also in the premier league so it won’t be their big day out Tom. So you should be okay tonight love.
Jesus wept that negative interview is still pissing me off this morning.
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Post by dezzly on Sept 24, 2024 6:48:17 GMT 1
Lees has gone right down in my estimations there. Trying to pass the buck onto the fans for expecting us to win a home game when the club management have made such a noise about the aim being promotion. Sorry Tom I'll try to lower my expectations yet again, how deluded of me. Wish we'd got shut of Lees and his ilk in the summer, we have so many reliable 6/10 jobbers who are way over the hill physically, and evidently mentally shot with contagious negativity on and off the pitch. We're like a sanctuary for them. Couldn’t agree more. And if you’re one of the ‘fans’ on here and find no issue with that conference from him you’re part of the problem. Clappers I would most certainly not be in the bracket of clapper.I guess we just see this differently. I believe you can still have a winning mindset but accept that sometimes you won’t win games. Iv played in loads of games and lost plenty but I always played to win and hated losing,but I could accept it happens and move on. That’s all he was getting ar for me. Derby got automatic promotion last season,they didn’t win 18 games,lost 10 of those.That’s not far off a third and they still got 92 points. Anyway like I say we just see it different.If losing was to become a theme(and I’ll restrict my arguement to the league games )then I’ll change my mind.
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Post by stinkypete on Sept 24, 2024 7:12:40 GMT 1
I’m gonna decide whether to go tonight after I’ve seen the starting 11. If Hogg starts I’m not going. I’m not rushing about after work, getting kids sorted etc to go and watch him receive the ball from Helik, have 2 pointless touches then give it back to him, watch him commit needless fouls, then scream and shout at everyone else cos he’s let a midfielder ghost past him! He’s finished and is holding this team back, a serial loser apart from a couple of seasons when he had an absolutely outstanding footballer in Aaron Mooy next to him. So as he’s apparently undroppable I’ll be having a night on the sofa, after all we shouldn’t be expecting to win tonight.
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Post by rockwall on Sept 24, 2024 7:13:16 GMT 1
No excuses tonight. It’s not that long ago Blackpool were also in the premier league so it won’t be their big day out Tom. So you should be okay tonight love. Jesus wept that negative interview is still pissing me off this morning. Only negative if like many, you have twisted the words.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Sept 24, 2024 7:50:41 GMT 1
I’m gonna decide whether to go tonight after I’ve seen the starting 11. If Hogg starts I’m not going. I’m not rushing about after work, getting kids sorted etc to go and watch him receive the ball from Helik, have 2 pointless touches then give it back to him, watch him commit needless fouls, then scream and shout at everyone else cos he’s let a midfielder ghost past him! He’s finished and is holding this team back, a serial loser apart from a couple of seasons when he had an absolutely outstanding footballer in Aaron Mooy next to him. So as he’s apparently undroppable I’ll be having a night on the sofa, after all we shouldn’t be expecting to win tonight. Judging by Duff's comments it sounds as though you'll get your way. "We passed up too far many opportunities to play the ball forward" - Hogg did that so many times the comment had to be about him to a large degree. Duff also sang the praises of Hodge and twice described him as a 'number 6'. It was only a matter of time before Duff realised that what he gets from Hogg in terms of leadership and trust is far outweighed by a complete lack of ability to play modern, progressive football.
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Post by Bilo the Bantam on Sept 24, 2024 8:31:08 GMT 1
Huddersfield Town 1-0 Blackpool Ladapo
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Post by leroy212 on Sept 24, 2024 8:31:23 GMT 1
To be fair I expect most of our fans expected us to beat Northampton as did most pundits in weekly predictions. So I can't agree with what lees said.
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Post by irverino on Sept 24, 2024 8:42:16 GMT 1
Referee Ben Speedie can tick off another venue/club tonight at JSS giving him a full set in West Yorks......No red cards & just one pen awarded in his opening six games so far (2 each L1/2 & EFL cup).
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Post by irverino on Sept 24, 2024 8:57:18 GMT 1
To be fair I expect most of our fans expected us to beat Northampton as did most pundits in weekly predictions. So I can't agree with what lees said. The 3 shortest odds last Saturday for home wins were at Town, Stockport & Wrexham. Leyton Orient smashed County 4-1 at Edgeley Park & the Welshmen were fortunate against Crawley who deserved a minimum point but ended up with none........A lot of expectancy of who will do what at the start of the season, Bolton & Rotherham would likely swap places with us.
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Post by digs on Sept 24, 2024 9:07:09 GMT 1
should be an open game tonight,Blackpool will be coming for 3pts,should suit our dynamic counter attacking tactics
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Post by crux on Sept 24, 2024 9:21:45 GMT 1
should be an open game tonight,Blackpool will be coming for 3pts,should suit our dynamic counter attacking tactics I'm assuming you either missed the game on Saturday or winking emoji from the end of that sentence 🤔 🙃 😅
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Post by royrace on Sept 24, 2024 9:22:25 GMT 1
Having actually listened to the press conference I think lees comments are fine. The bit about expectation wasn't really his main takeaway thankfully and everything else he said was positive.
The club should do pc highlights! Way too long to watch!
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Post by boooothy on Sept 24, 2024 9:52:13 GMT 1
Really hope Headley has a good game and the crowd get off his back.
I expect Marshal to lose his place tonight and at least one of the midfield. The obvious one is Hogg to get us playing forward but to be fair to him there were 3 in midfield who played worse than him Saturday.
Pearson must also be thinking he deserves a turn.
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 24, 2024 10:06:38 GMT 1
Lees body language and negative tone in that interview did not fill me with confidence at all. I said before the Northampton game that some people were getting carried away and had this funny feeling we were going to be beaten.
No idea about tonight to be honest but I do think that if we lose things are going to start getting toxic again and I so hoped we had left all that behind.
The league table doesn't tell the story of the season for me and no doubt about it we are in a bit of a rut, the freak Bolton result has masked our recent performances.
We need change in the team and the tactics because right now Sorensen is ineffective and so is our midfield. If we go a goal down tonight it won't be pleasant.
I sincerely hope we re-find that slick attacking mentality we have shown in some games.
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Post by huddshroom on Sept 24, 2024 10:37:28 GMT 1
We are mid table side, at best. We will struggle against 'pool. Jesus we are a negative bunch on here, a win tonight and we go 3rd... half this board must be bi-polar
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Post by brighousebandbred on Sept 24, 2024 10:39:04 GMT 1
To be fair I expect most of our fans expected us to beat Northampton as did most pundits in weekly predictions. So I can't agree with what lees said. The bookies certainly did Northampton were 9/1
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Post by argyleterrier on Sept 24, 2024 10:48:04 GMT 1
I think for me, Hodge and Kane have to start alongside one of Evans or Wiles. The latter two are way too similar and alongside Hogg the midfield is totally non-existent. When Kane came on, although the game was largely gone - he showed for everything and most usually tried to get things moving. Alongside Hodge in the 6 I think the midfield looks much more balanced. I think it all stems from the middle - if that functions i think that we will see more from Sorenson with the ball moving forwards more quickly he will be far more dangerous at the top end of the pitch. Ladapo also has to start - I like Marshall but him and Koroma are two similar - one of them alongside Ladapo for me.
I thought Lees was terrible on Saturday (not alone) I think I would like to see Spencer playing there and give Headley another crack at LWB and hope that Miller is fit soon. I will be there tonight as always - I have spent way too long watching Argyle play in the lower leagues to get too upset by things not going well (i once as an away fan watched a team who failed to win away for two years).
I think we will win tonight and in a strange way hope Saturday is a blessing in disguise laying bare our weaknesses and showing that we need to ring the changes.
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Post by ldotm on Sept 24, 2024 10:54:22 GMT 1
I think for me, Hodge and Kane have to start alongside one of Evans or Wiles. The latter two are way too similar and alongside Hogg the midfield is totally non-existent. When Kane came on, although the game was largely gone - he showed for everything and most usually tried to get things moving. Alongside Hodge in the 6 I think the midfield looks much more balanced. I think it all stems from the middle - if that functions i think that we will see more from Sorenson with the ball moving forwards more quickly he will be far more dangerous at the top end of the pitch. Ladapo also has to start - I like Marshall but him and Koroma are two similar - one of them alongside Ladapo for me. I thought Lees was terrible on Saturday (not alone) I think I would like to see Spencer playing there and give Headley another crack at LWB and hope that Miller is fit soon. I will be there tonight as always - I have spent way too long watching Argyle play in the lower leagues to get too upset by things not going well (i once as an away fan watched a team who failed to win away for two years). I think we will win tonight and in a strange way hope Saturday is a blessing in disguise laying bare our weaknesses and showing that we need to ring the changes. Agree with this. Balance in midfield needs to be right, look at how ineffective England could be at times with superstars in midfield because we couldn’t get the balance right. Hope Duff sees the same. And as you say, hopefully it brings the best of Sorensen back, he was unplayable in the first 4 games, been a big drop off which is hopefully a blip.
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Sept 24, 2024 10:55:39 GMT 1
We are mid table side, at best. We will struggle against 'pool. Jesus we are a negative bunch on here, a win tonight and we go 3rd... half this board must be bi-polar Bed wetting, bi-polar you people really have a problem with reality don't you. You're the kind of guy/girl who last season was going on about DATM negativity as we fell through the floor, grow up get real.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Sept 24, 2024 11:33:11 GMT 1
I’m not really suprised at Lees comments to be honest, he’s been picking up a good salary for the last 4 years as a mainstay of a team that has been accepting of getting beat most weeks. Yet somehow it’s the fans expectations that is the issue.
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Post by dezzly on Sept 24, 2024 11:47:56 GMT 1
I think for me, Hodge and Kane have to start alongside one of Evans or Wiles. The latter two are way too similar and alongside Hogg the midfield is totally non-existent. When Kane came on, although the game was largely gone - he showed for everything and most usually tried to get things moving. Alongside Hodge in the 6 I think the midfield looks much more balanced. I think it all stems from the middle - if that functions i think that we will see more from Sorenson with the ball moving forwards more quickly he will be far more dangerous at the top end of the pitch. Ladapo also has to start - I like Marshall but him and Koroma are two similar - one of them alongside Ladapo for me. I thought Lees was terrible on Saturday (not alone) I think I would like to see Spencer playing there and give Headley another crack at LWB and hope that Miller is fit soon. I will be there tonight as always - I have spent way too long watching Argyle play in the lower leagues to get too upset by things not going well (i once as an away fan watched a team who failed to win away for two years). I think we will win tonight and in a strange way hope Saturday is a blessing in disguise laying bare our weaknesses and showing that we need to ring the changes. I agree on basically all the changes you suggest.Feel it’s a little harsh on Marshall but if ladapo has 60 minutes in him then we should try him. Also I’d swap Spencer for lees but not because I thought he was particularly awful,I always tend to think he’s pretty steady.I’d simply swap him to get more pace into that back line. Hodge for Hogg and Kane for wiles for me,I think that would also be harsh to wiles as he’s been slightly the better of the two but I also like you say think if they get the right balance it could improve others,he also brings a direct free kick which wiles does not. That all said I don’t think Kane will have the minutes in him to warrant starting so it could just be the hodge change in midfield.
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 24, 2024 11:48:41 GMT 1
We are mid table side, at best. We will struggle against 'pool. Jesus we are a negative bunch on here, a win tonight and we go 3rd... half this board must be bi-polar If we were top of the league by 15 points and then lost 5 games in a row would you apply the same logic?
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Sept 24, 2024 12:00:02 GMT 1
I’m not really suprised at Lees comments to be honest, he’s been picking up a good salary for the last 4 years as a mainstay of a team that has been accepting of getting beat most weeks. Yet somehow it’s the fans expectations that is the issue. True silly fans thinking very well paid professional sportsmen would at least have the mentality and graft to try to win every game, even tin pot ones. This tin pot attitude among some so-called fans and prima donna players is partly down to viewing football more as entertainment than competitive sport. The likes of Neil Warnock wouldn't take this I cant be arsed attitude from his teams that's why he has been so successful as a manager.
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