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Post by Floyds on Sept 24, 2024 12:32:48 GMT 1
Expecting to win every game is slightly different to expecting our own players not to pass the ball into our own net!
Hopefully we see four or five changes tonight, a different formation and approach and that we'll be on the front foot from the kick off.
I expect it'll be the same team and formation, or the same team with Hodge for Wiles.
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Post by huddshroom on Sept 24, 2024 12:46:27 GMT 1
Jesus we are a negative bunch on here, a win tonight and we go 3rd... half this board must be bi-polar If we were top of the league by 15 points and then lost 5 games in a row would you apply the same logic? Let's make up scenarios to validate points... |
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Post by westislandterrier on Sept 24, 2024 12:48:05 GMT 1
We are mid table side, at best. We will struggle against 'pool. Jesus we are a negative bunch on here, a win tonight and we go 3rd... half this board must be bi-polar Is that The HTAFC board or The finest of The DATM board !!! 😬 |
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Post by huddshroom on Sept 24, 2024 12:48:40 GMT 1
Jesus we are a negative bunch on here, a win tonight and we go 3rd... half this board must be bi-polar Bed wetting, bi-polar you people really have a problem with reality don't you. You're the kind of guy/girl who last season was going on about DATM negativity as we fell through the floor, grow up get real. You've wet the bed with your reaction here, I'm willing to give a new manager time, specially if we win tonight and are sat in 3rd, if we are mid table at end of season then yeah he wants sacking, but you can't judge it yet. We were world beaters last week and pissing the league... |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Sept 24, 2024 12:49:09 GMT 1
I’m not really suprised at Lees comments to be honest, he’s been picking up a good salary for the last 4 years as a mainstay of a team that has been accepting of getting beat most weeks. Yet somehow it’s the fans expectations that is the issue. I find it completely bizarre that lees is complaining that we as fans expected to beat Northampton.  . This is what the club as done to us as fans, been so shit over the last 6/7 years that they expect us to lower our expectations year after year. What follows shall we turn up and expect to lose in div 2 ( forgot we have already lost to 2 div 2 teams). Seriously Lees we are proud HTFC fans we will never accept losing at this level never. ( and if we do lose we expect not to be out fought and out played). |
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 24, 2024 12:56:55 GMT 1
Having actually listened to the press conference I think lees comments are fine. The bit about expectation wasn't really his main takeaway thankfully and everything else he said was positive. The club should do pc highlights! Way too long to watch! I just paste the Youtube URL into CoPilot and ask it to summarise into a few paragraphs - you get the general theme but don't get mentally tied down into judging specific words that someone has just thrown out off the cuff in response to a question. I think this point is important, we forget that these aren't carefully scripted prose to get bogged down in analysing and use to hold the guys to account, they're just answering as best they can in reaction to whatever is thrown at them...that they can string together a coherent response in reaction to some of the garbage questions they're asked is incredible enough! Here you go >>> "Tom Lees and Michael Duff held a press conference to discuss their reflections on a recent game against Northampton and their preparations for an upcoming match against Blackpool. They began by acknowledging the team’s poor performance against Northampton, emphasizing the need to move forward and improve. Lees highlighted the importance of mental resilience, especially in the face of setbacks.
The discussion then shifted to the learning curve the team faces in League One. Both Lees and Duff talked about the challenges of being a big club in the league, handling expectations, and the pressure that comes with it. They stressed the importance of creating a positive atmosphere within the team and staying level-headed, regardless of wins or losses.
Michael Duff’s message to the team was clear: focus on improvement and learn from mistakes. He emphasized the need for the team to address their errors and prepare diligently for the next game against Blackpool. Duff’s approach is centered on continuous learning and development, ensuring that the team is always looking to get better.
The press conference also touched on the specific challenges they face in League One. Lees and Duff mentioned that many teams see them as a significant opponent, which adds to the pressure. They discussed the need to adapt to different styles of play and the importance of mental and physical preparation to meet these challenges head-on.
In conclusion, both Lees and Duff underscored the importance of learning from both successes and failures. They highlighted the need for consistency and focus throughout the season, ensuring that the team remains resilient and prepared for every match. Their reflections and strategies aim to build a strong, cohesive unit capable of handling the rigors of League One."or, more succinctly... "Tom Lees and Michael Duff discussed their recent poor performance against Northampton, emphasizing the need for improvement and mental resilience. They highlighted the challenges of being a big club in League One, the importance of learning from mistakes, and preparing for the next game against Blackpool." |
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Post by irverino on Sept 24, 2024 13:05:31 GMT 1
Bed wetting, bi-polar you people really have a problem with reality don't you. You're the kind of guy/girl who last season was going on about DATM negativity as we fell through the floor, grow up get real. You've wet the bed with your reaction here, I'm willing to give a new manager time, specially if we win tonight and are sat in 3rd, if we are mid table at end of season then yeah he wants sacking, but you can't judge it yet. We were world beaters last week and pissing the league...Yep, ten of the eleven that started at Bolton were in the line up on Saturday, it was a complete reversal of the display & result at the Reebok. Something was amiss & hopefully tonight we put that right because I'm expecting Blackpool to maybe start in the same vein as the Cobblers did........Don't be surprised if MD starts with the same team, he did at Bolton after the Rotherham defeat. |
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 24, 2024 13:16:13 GMT 1
If we were top of the league by 15 points and then lost 5 games in a row would you apply the same logic? Let's make up scenarios to validate points... I'm trying to workout how you fail to see the bigger picture and only what's in black and white. You can sway it both ways, it's a fact we are 5th but it's also a fact that we have won 1 in 5. Most points that took us to 5th were got before this run |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Sept 24, 2024 13:21:30 GMT 1
I’m optimistic of a good performance tonight because I’m optimistic that Hogg, Wiles or Evans and Marshall will be dropped.
If I see those names on the team sheet though, my optimism will evaporate.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 24, 2024 13:40:06 GMT 1
Maybe Lees's comments are suggesting something , that i have suspected for a while. This being that the losing mentaility takes less work, than a winning one. We seem to have quite a lazy bunch , therefore losing is much easier to achieve than winning. As in changing the mindset to a winning one, takes hard work, as you have to run harder than teams you play against etc, yet our bunch do not want to do this week in week out. I mean most weeks Wiles for example might as well not play, he hardly gets involved in games. But to keep your reputation of being a "player" means you put a shift in every so often. For example how many players get signed on the "on his day" stuff, this is the kind of mentaility we seem to have, which takes less work to maintain. We also seem to have signed players who are ok with this mentaility once they sign, to then take their foot off the gas and coast.
The players tried the "just do enough" last year and how many times did we get stuffed for it ? Yet have learned nothing it seems . I thought it for a while but if you think about it, its a far greater chance of Lees/Hogg and even Ward our "older heads" to keep us in this league, it ehances their chances of getting another years deal with us next year. If we get promoted , they are either going to have to retire or drop wages and play league 1/2 again. Plus they have got comfy here and will not all change it seems, Duff will either have to fall into line or get the sack like many others over the last 18/ 20 months.
Lees's interview seemed very much a "pipe down fans,look we do what we want , like it or lump it"
Something the squad is lacking in spades is "winners" have many do we actually have ?
Hogg- 10 years here , 3 years of sucess as such
Ward- 2 promotions , never as a starter.
Lees- never won a promotion
Pearson- a promotion winner at Luton, but bar that ?
The rest ? where are the actual leaders within the group demanding more ? Whenever we have had sucess previously our squad was full of these or at least had 4/5 you could put your hat on.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 24, 2024 13:51:20 GMT 1
We are mid table side, at best. We will struggle against 'pool. And that's why you're currently 44th in the Prediction League  |
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Post by htfcterry on Sept 24, 2024 14:06:52 GMT 1
Maybe Lees's comments are suggesting something , that i have suspected for a while. This being that the losing mentaility takes less work, than a winning one. We seem to have quite a lazy bunch , therefore losing is much easier to achieve than winning. As in changing the mindset to a winning one, takes hard work, as you have to run harder than teams you play against etc, yet our bunch do not want to do this week in week out. I mean most weeks Wiles for example might as well not play, he hardly gets involved in games. But to keep your reputation of being a "player" means you put a shift in every so often. For example how many players get signed on the "on his day" stuff, this is the kind of mentaility we seem to have, which takes less work to maintain. We also seem to have signed players who are ok with this mentaility once they sign, to then take their foot off the gas and coast. The players tried the "just do enough" last year and how many times did we get stuffed for it ? Yet have learned nothing it seems . I thought it for a while but if you think about it, its a far greater chance of Lees/Hogg and even Ward our "older heads" to keep us in this league, it ehances their chances of getting another years deal with us next year. If we get promoted , they are either going to have to retire or drop wages and play league 1/2 again. Plus they have got comfy here and will not all change it seems, Duff will either have to fall into line or get the sack like many others over the last 18/ 20 months. Lees's interview seemed very much a "pipe down fans,look we do what we want , like it or lump it" Something the squad is lacking in spades is "winners" have many do we actually have ? Hogg- 10 years here , 3 years of sucess as such Ward- 2 promotions , never as a starter. Lees- never won a promotion Pearson- a promotion winner at Luton, but bar that ? The rest ? where are the actual leaders within the group demanding more ? Whenever we have had sucess previously our squad was full of these or at least had 4/5 you could put your hat on. Couldn't be any further wide of the mark with the comments on Lees there. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 24, 2024 14:14:08 GMT 1
Maybe Lees's comments are suggesting something , that i have suspected for a while. This being that the losing mentaility takes less work, than a winning one. We seem to have quite a lazy bunch , therefore losing is much easier to achieve than winning. As in changing the mindset to a winning one, takes hard work, as you have to run harder than teams you play against etc, yet our bunch do not want to do this week in week out. I mean most weeks Wiles for example might as well not play, he hardly gets involved in games. But to keep your reputation of being a "player" means you put a shift in every so often. For example how many players get signed on the "on his day" stuff, this is the kind of mentaility we seem to have, which takes less work to maintain. We also seem to have signed players who are ok with this mentaility once they sign, to then take their foot off the gas and coast. The players tried the "just do enough" last year and how many times did we get stuffed for it ? Yet have learned nothing it seems . I thought it for a while but if you think about it, its a far greater chance of Lees/Hogg and even Ward our "older heads" to keep us in this league, it ehances their chances of getting another years deal with us next year. If we get promoted , they are either going to have to retire or drop wages and play league 1/2 again. Plus they have got comfy here and will not all change it seems, Duff will either have to fall into line or get the sack like many others over the last 18/ 20 months. Lees's interview seemed very much a "pipe down fans,look we do what we want , like it or lump it" Something the squad is lacking in spades is "winners" have many do we actually have ? Hogg- 10 years here , 3 years of sucess as such Ward- 2 promotions , never as a starter. Lees- never won a promotion Pearson- a promotion winner at Luton, but bar that ? The rest ? where are the actual leaders within the group demanding more ? Whenever we have had sucess previously our squad was full of these or at least had 4/5 you could put your hat on. Couldn't be any further wide of the mark with the comments on Lees there. how so ? he seems very annoyed that us fans or outside sources are complaining about indept preformances, such as Saturday? If i was wrong why would he bite back ? Unless he likes the idea of the status que . Remember Tom like many others in our squad , have made a career out of being "meh he is alright" players and earned money many can only dream of doing this. |
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Post by keefer on Sept 24, 2024 14:25:47 GMT 1
We are mid table side, at best. We will struggle against 'pool. And that's why you're currently 44th in the Prediction League Mid table mediocrity? |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 24, 2024 14:41:57 GMT 1
Looking forward to the game and hopefully a few more smiles around the stands…
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Post by bluebeard on Sept 24, 2024 14:46:52 GMT 1
I always look forward to playing Blackpool, but sadly tonight i can't see anything but an away win.
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Post by rickrast on Sept 24, 2024 15:00:47 GMT 1
Backsliders v. Seasiders....:-(
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Post by townatheart on Sept 24, 2024 15:03:14 GMT 1
Let's make up scenarios to validate points... I'm trying to workout how you fail to see the bigger picture and only what's in black and white. You can sway it both ways, it's a fact we are 5th but it's also a fact that we have won 1 in 5. Most points that took us to 5th were got before this run It is a fact that in the league we are 4 of 6, so in first instance you looked to be inventing/creating a scenario to make a point, and now manipulating facts to make a point. At least you are consistent in b your approach 😋👏 |
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Post by runner76 on Sept 24, 2024 15:05:49 GMT 1
Blackpool have a squad with pretty much the same value as Cobblers, so on paper will be no easier a game......and a very decent manager (likely one of best / most experienced in this league...) so it will be very tough tonight, but after a dismal weekend we simply have to be up for it.
Call me defeatist, but I will take a draw............
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Post by rougeboy31 on Sept 24, 2024 15:19:55 GMT 1
I’m not really suprised at Lees comments to be honest, he’s been picking up a good salary for the last 4 years as a mainstay of a team that has been accepting of getting beat most weeks. Yet somehow it’s the fans expectations that is the issue. True silly fans thinking very well paid professional sportsmen would at least have the mentality and graft to try to win every game, even tin pot ones. This tin pot attitude among some so-called fans and prima donna players is partly down to viewing football more as entertainment than competitive sport. The likes of Neil Warnock wouldn't take this I cant be arsed attitude from his teams that's why he has been so successful as a manager. A lot of people seem like they not bothered about enjoying themselves at town. Turns into a chore rather than a hobby. Makes me wonder why they started int he first place |
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Post by ldotm on Sept 24, 2024 15:24:37 GMT 1
3-1 town
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Post by calderdaleterrier on Sept 24, 2024 15:39:28 GMT 1
Maybe Lees's comments are suggesting something , that i have suspected for a while. This being that the losing mentaility takes less work, than a winning one. We seem to have quite a lazy bunch , therefore losing is much easier to achieve than winning. As in changing the mindset to a winning one, takes hard work, as you have to run harder than teams you play against etc, yet our bunch do not want to do this week in week out. I mean most weeks Wiles for example might as well not play, he hardly gets involved in games. But to keep your reputation of being a "player" means you put a shift in every so often. For example how many players get signed on the "on his day" stuff, this is the kind of mentaility we seem to have, which takes less work to maintain. We also seem to have signed players who are ok with this mentaility once they sign, to then take their foot off the gas and coast. The players tried the "just do enough" last year and how many times did we get stuffed for it ? Yet have learned nothing it seems . I thought it for a while but if you think about it, its a far greater chance of Lees/Hogg and even Ward our "older heads" to keep us in this league, it ehances their chances of getting another years deal with us next year. If we get promoted , they are either going to have to retire or drop wages and play league 1/2 again. Plus they have got comfy here and will not all change it seems, Duff will either have to fall into line or get the sack like many others over the last 18/ 20 months. Lees's interview seemed very much a "pipe down fans,look we do what we want , like it or lump it" Something the squad is lacking in spades is "winners" have many do we actually have ? Hogg- 10 years here , 3 years of sucess as such Ward- 2 promotions , never as a starter. Lees- never won a promotion Pearson- a promotion winner at Luton, but bar that ? The rest ? where are the actual leaders within the group demanding more ? Whenever we have had sucess previously our squad was full of these or at least had 4/5 you could put your hat on. |
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Post by always a terrier on Sept 24, 2024 15:43:09 GMT 1
1-2 to Blackpool I think tonight Ballard & Rhodes and a late consolation from Ladapo.
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Post by calderdaleterrier on Sept 24, 2024 15:44:05 GMT 1
Maybe Lees's comments are suggesting something , that i have suspected for a while. This being that the losing mentaility takes less work, than a winning one. We seem to have quite a lazy bunch , therefore losing is much easier to achieve than winning. As in changing the mindset to a winning one, takes hard work, as you have to run harder than teams you play against etc, yet our bunch do not want to do this week in week out. I mean most weeks Wiles for example might as well not play, he hardly gets involved in games. But to keep your reputation of being a "player" means you put a shift in every so often. For example how many players get signed on the "on his day" stuff, this is the kind of mentaility we seem to have, which takes less work to maintain. We also seem to have signed players who are ok with this mentaility once they sign, to then take their foot off the gas and coast. The players tried the "just do enough" last year and how many times did we get stuffed for it ? Yet have learned nothing it seems . I thought it for a while but if you think about it, its a far greater chance of Lees/Hogg and even Ward our "older heads" to keep us in this league, it ehances their chances of getting another years deal with us next year. If we get promoted , they are either going to have to retire or drop wages and play league 1/2 again. Plus they have got comfy here and will not all change it seems, Duff will either have to fall into line or get the sack like many others over the last 18/ 20 months. Lees's interview seemed very much a "pipe down fans,look we do what we want , like it or lump it" Something the squad is lacking in spades is "winners" have many do we actually have ? Hogg- 10 years here , 3 years of sucess as such Ward- 2 promotions , never as a starter. Lees- never won a promotion Pearson- a promotion winner at Luton, but bar that ? The rest ? where are the actual leaders within the group demanding more ? Whenever we have had sucess previously our squad was full of these or at least had 4/5 you could put your hat on. |
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Sept 24, 2024 15:44:11 GMT 1
Burn Tom Lees
Stone Jaheim Headley to death
Take Michael Duff to the tower
Remotely detonate explosives under anyone clapping or smiling whilst we aren't in front
If we win and go 3rd then put a hold on the executions and say "oops, sorry - maybe we over reacted just a little".
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Post by calderdaleterrier on Sept 24, 2024 15:46:40 GMT 1
Maybe Lees's comments are suggesting something , that i have suspected for a while. This being that the losing mentaility takes less work, than a winning one. We seem to have quite a lazy bunch , therefore losing is much easier to achieve than winning. As in changing the mindset to a winning one, takes hard work, as you have to run harder than teams you play against etc, yet our bunch do not want to do this week in week out. I mean most weeks Wiles for example might as well not play, he hardly gets involved in games. But to keep your reputation of being a "player" means you put a shift in every so often. For example how many players get signed on the "on his day" stuff, this is the kind of mentaility we seem to have, which takes less work to maintain. We also seem to have signed players who are ok with this mentaility once they sign, to then take their foot off the gas and coast. The players tried the "just do enough" last year and how many times did we get stuffed for it ? Yet have learned nothing it seems . I thought it for a while but if you think about it, its a far greater chance of Lees/Hogg and even Ward our "older heads" to keep us in this league, it ehances their chances of getting another years deal with us next year. If we get promoted , they are either going to have to retire or drop wages and play league 1/2 again. Plus they have got comfy here and will not all change it seems, Duff will either have to fall into line or get the sack like many others over the last 18/ 20 months. Lees's interview seemed very much a "pipe down fans,look we do what we want , like it or lump it" Something the squad is lacking in spades is "winners" have many do we actually have ? Hogg- 10 years here , 3 years of sucess as such Ward- 2 promotions , never as a starter. Lees- never won a promotion Pearson- a promotion winner at Luton, but bar that ? The rest ? where are the actual leaders within the group demanding more ? Whenever we have had sucess previously our squad was full of these or at least had 4/5 you could put your hat on. The rest ? where are the actual leaders within the group demanding more ? Whenever we have had sucess previously our squad was full of these or at least had 4/5 you could put your hat on. This sums up the problem.no leaders at all. No one with a football Brain to see what needs to happen and organise it. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Sept 24, 2024 15:58:30 GMT 1
We are mid table side, at best. We will struggle against 'pool. And that's why you're currently 44th in the Prediction League Quite right Frankies - but that's only because I let my heart rule my head on there - I had us for a loss on the Northampton thread at the weekend, but I get no points for that!  |
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 24, 2024 15:59:49 GMT 1
Sat on the balcony in Crete. I watched the game on Saturday and we were awful. Both my girls not bothering going because ‘we’re shite’.
I hope he makes a few changes tonight. Hodge and Kane to start for me.
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Post by Wingman on Sept 24, 2024 16:01:12 GMT 1
Burn Tom Lees Stone Jaheim Headley to death Take Michael Duff to the tower Remotely detonate explosives under anyone clapping or smiling whilst we aren't in front If we win and go 3rd then put a hold on the executions and say "oops, sorry - maybe we over reacted just a little". As much as the first part was tongue in cheek I’m sure, I don’t think an overreaction to Sat is true. Helik passed into his own net. A former international centre-back. The defence farted about and let the lad slot home for the second. Third we were caught out badly with a long ball, one Northampton worked on and knew they could do us with. Once we got at them, we scored, won a penalty shortly after too. They were there for the taking but we shot ourselves in the foot so many times there’s only a stump left. At the risk of sounding like a Massive fan, we should be beating teams like this at home. You have to if you expect to be aiming for promotion because Northampton won’t be near the play-off’s come May. Guaranteed. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 24, 2024 16:19:48 GMT 1
There simply has to be a reaction to Saturday’s dismal showing, tonight.
In my mind, Kane in midfield and Ladapo up front would go a long way to making sure there’s a massive improvement.
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. This is what the club as done to us as fans, been so shit over the last 6/7 years that they expect us to lower our expectations year after year. What follows shall we turn up and expect to lose in div 2 ( forgot we have already lost to 2 div 2 teams). 
