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Post by H7 on Sept 28, 2024 14:34:06 GMT 1
We’ve lost to a club in utter turmoil with a dogshit team who had 2 shots on target all game. This is starting to turn into a complete nightmare, there is absolutely no way we will be challenging this season. What an absolute shit show.
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Post by kindo on Sept 28, 2024 14:34:56 GMT 1
Any of you FIFA/Football Manager 'analysts' tell me whether we got any points for the stats today? XG for, XG against, blah, blah, blah
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Post by rothwellterrier on Sept 28, 2024 14:35:37 GMT 1
We are going to get a right bumming on Tuesday Surely the correct term is “Brumming”
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Post by 28901 on Sept 28, 2024 14:36:05 GMT 1
Sorensen can F right off. Not even trying Supposed to be the best wing back in this division when we signed him. This club is an absolute career ender.
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Post by Orinoco on Sept 28, 2024 14:36:11 GMT 1
If we lose then the gaffer has to go. Not a chance, we can’t just carry on sacking managers. Are town the club who will will start the trend employing managers on a 10 game contract?, it was obvious what would happen with all the dross still under contract, can't see why people are so upset.
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Post by woodyhudds on Sept 28, 2024 14:36:47 GMT 1
How on earth this thread is not just fully about Cartwright. Our front line is a joke, Koroma and Marshall started and both aren't good enough in that position.
We've been after a striker since Kevin took over and we've signed utter UTTER dross. Lapado that fact we have signed him should have meant cartwright was immediately sacked. After ten minutes I knew he was dire.
Cartwright must go now then Jan plans can be out in place! Signal ruddy good striker!!
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 28, 2024 14:37:03 GMT 1
Sorensen can F right off. Not even trying Supposed to be the best wing back in this division when we signed him. This club is an absolute career ender. We were told that Championship sides were looking at Sorensen and Evans. I can only assume that was a 30 second look and they thought F that
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Post by Mastercracker on Sept 28, 2024 14:37:33 GMT 1
We haven’t turned a corner, we are still on this downward spiral that started in Deans final months as owner the first time round and it’s still continuing under Nagle. The playing side need to take a look at themselves. Whilst we clearly aren’t completely mismanaged like Reading have been, we’re akin to a bit of driftwood and have been under the last 3 owners.
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Post by drumriggend on Sept 28, 2024 14:38:14 GMT 1
In isolation I thought we were better team and didn’t deserve to lose..
However we usually find a way to lose..
Manager needs time..
Mid table mediocrity beckons this season..
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 28, 2024 14:38:45 GMT 1
Formation still doesn't work. It's not working and it's crap to watch. Nobody in defence or defensive midfield that can pass a ball to start a move until the last 8 minutes. No leadership. Soft as shit. For the love of god don't set up with this shite 7 defensive players at Birmingham. If we get pumped having a go then fair enough, if we get pumped set up to sit back we deserve it. Change 5 at the back to 4. We need legs in midfield, put Hodge and Kasumu together both can get about the pitch, one is our best passer the other can tackle and carry the ball. Please God go back to proper back 4. Can we get Thomas back? We might score from a corner again at least. Cartwright decided to bin off all the wingers leaving us with no plan B option. 352 is all this squad is set-up to play and we're fucking terrible at playing it.
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Post by alfredsterrier on Sept 28, 2024 14:38:45 GMT 1
16 or 17 shots? In reality never looked liked scoring. Not even sure it’s down to the striker shortage, we just don’t look threatening. It was definitely not just one of those games you lose. I still can’t get over how disjointed we look. Players are miles apart. Little movement. Nothing done at any pace. It is very disturbing. Only hope is that it took a while before Barnsley got going under Duff.
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Post by huddersfc on Sept 28, 2024 14:39:39 GMT 1
3 defeats in a row, and Reading were the worst team of the 3 by quite some distance. It starts with Nagle, the bloke hasnt got a clue about these divisions, and he has hired a bloke in Cartwright, who keeps bringing in managers and players, fail miserably every time, and he stays in his job. Our apparent 3rd choice striker target will already be lucky to get any more minutes. He already cant get on the pitch ahead of Koroma, a young inexperienced lad in Marshall and a flop in Bojan. How can he already be behind those 3 strikers when we have just brought him? Who is actually in charge of what Cartwright is doing and bringing in? Who is asking the questions? Nagle isnt exactly arsed is he, comes over once in a while, talks a good game, but does he ever deliver? He needs to get his arse over here and show he is in charge for starters.
Some folk on here thought we would get promoted ffs. Just put it into context... Portsmouth who got promoted last season lost 5 games out of 46. We have lost 4 already out of 8. Let that sink in, because the faster we get to 50 points, the better.
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Post by terriers321 on Sept 28, 2024 14:40:32 GMT 1
We’ve lost to a club in utter turmoil with a dogshit team who had 2 shots on target all game. This is starting to turn into a complete nightmare, there is absolutely no way we will be challenging this season. What an absolute shit show. Not just them. Without there wins against us Rotherham and Northampton would be in the relegation zone. Whatever is going on at the club needs sorting fast. Otherwise it's going to be us down there again.
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Post by htafcdan on Sept 28, 2024 14:43:11 GMT 1
can’t just be me who thought the second shouldn’t have stood? the ball was clearly rolling and he clearly touched it
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Post by shawsie on Sept 28, 2024 14:43:15 GMT 1
16 or 17 shots? In reality never looked liked scoring. Not even sure it’s down to the striker shortage, we just don’t look threatening. It was definitely not just one of those games you lose. I still can’t get over how disjointed we look. Players are miles apart. Little movement. Nothing done at any pace. It is very disturbing. Only hope is that it took a while before Barnsley got going under Duff. Lets be brutally honest - we are shit. No tempo, ponderous defensively, soft and sloppy on the ball, lazy off it. Apart from that all is well!!!!
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Post by Terriersmad on Sept 28, 2024 14:44:55 GMT 1
Sometimes you lose those games. 19 shots to 6. They score both their shots on target. Their keeper makes a number of saves. Nothing goes our way. One of those days. What another? We've had 100s in the last few years Not like that. We've lost a lot of games. But often when we've been the worse side, and the opposition has carved us open. That hasn't happened today. They had two half-chances and took them, then defended for their lives. We needed to do something else to build momentum, but we also missed better chances than they scored. Taken in isolation, it was a much improved performance, and a game we should have won on balance of play and chances created. We didn't. Sometimes that's what happens in football. It isn't a game where pressure automatically results in a goal or a win. Credit Reading for taking their chances. Look at where we can improve - moving the ball better, final pass, getting the ball to strikers in dangerous positions - move on. It was unacceptable against Blackpool and Northampton. The performances were awful. Barring the mad minute against Northampton, we didn't look like creating anything. That's not been the case today. We've created a litany of chances, and not taken them. Not often we've been able to say that in recent years. We all too often haven't created anything and been punished by being cut open. I'm still not convinced by the system - see elsewhere for my view. But we were tighter in general. It wasn't good, it was decent. Reading were good without the ball and took their chances. It's the kind of game I actually expect us to lose a few times this season - we create chances and are punished for profligacy. The opposition wasn't 'better' than us except in the scoreline. Which happens. You (not necessarily you, but speaking generally) can either accept that and see a performance for what it is, or you can simply look at every negative going. A few stats. 19-6 on shots. 7-2 on shots on target. 11-2 on corners (also a testament to Reading defending well). 0-6 on goalkeeper saves, which I think should be higher when you consider the corners that were going in. Had Chapman been the busier goalkeeper I'd be far more worried. As it is, he wasn't. Only one keeper has had anything to do on a regular basis. The lack of getting the ball to strikers in goalscoring positions is an issue to be worked on, but the midfield looked far more like it. We were a threat from set-pieces. We gave up two half-chances all game. The defence wasn't turned by the ball into the channels as it has been. Our recent run has twisted perceptions of this afternoon. It's an ongoing concern. But it isn't all doom and gloom.
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Post by Moooooy on Sept 28, 2024 14:46:52 GMT 1
Same issues as last season just at a lower level. Need to shift about 15 players on to get rid of this weak mentality that is poisoning the squad. We’ve built a team of losers and until we gut the place it won’t change.
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Post by artysid on Sept 28, 2024 14:47:02 GMT 1
Unlucky that goal. Spencer's stretch interception goes straight to the goalscorer.If hd hadn't tried so hard it would have been cleared We get punished every time there's an error, seemingly, at the moment. Yep, I'm in complete agreement. I can stomach defeat today far more than Northampton or Blackpool, where it was completely unacceptable. Today we've had that bit of bad fortune, we've created chances, and been punished by an opponent who have had two meaningful shots and scored both. Which will happen from time to time. Not over yet. Problem is when you're playing shite and losing there's a chance you can turn a corner. When you're playing reasonably well and still losing that when the rot sets in - the first half of our second season in Premier League springs to mind.
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Post by Mounie for nothing on Sept 28, 2024 14:47:03 GMT 1
We have an unusual ability to coach any talent out of well regarded players we sign. Wiles, Evans, Sorensen etc. Can't be arsed with the meltdown on here tonight, gonna find next doors cat from last year and dropkick it into the river sideways from 5 yards. Probably miss though and punt it straight into the mouth of one of those fucking annoying cockapoodledoo trendy things. Least I learnt a few years ago not to let results bother me anymore. On the plus side that absolute helmet Townrwe got banned for 3 months, so won't have to put up with his January transfer window claims about some raft of Eritrean wingbacks paddling over.
I'm calm now, it's ok.
The fucking miaowing thundertwat is hiding under the shed, the cockwombling jizztrumpet.
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Post by Terriersmad on Sept 28, 2024 14:48:25 GMT 1
Yep, I'm in complete agreement. I can stomach defeat today far more than Northampton or Blackpool, where it was completely unacceptable. Today we've had that bit of bad fortune, we've created chances, and been punished by an opponent who have had two meaningful shots and scored both. Which will happen from time to time. Not over yet. Problem is when you're playing shite and losing there's a chance you can turn a corner. When you're playing reasonably well and still losing that when the rot sets in - the first half of our second season in Premier League springs to mind. You're not wrong there. I'm just not having this hyperbole about how awful we were when we weren't. Not great. Not good. Decent. Not terrible.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 28, 2024 14:48:50 GMT 1
If we lose then the gaffer has to go. Not a chance, we can’t just carry on sacking managers. . Then we'll go down. Losing is a habit and we're now junkies to it.
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Post by Amigo on Sept 28, 2024 14:50:24 GMT 1
can’t just be me who thought the second shouldn’t have stood? the ball was clearly rolling and he clearly touched it It shouldn't have stood no, but, it wasn't like a quick free kick we weren't ready for, we knew they were taking a corner.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 28, 2024 14:50:54 GMT 1
The lack of composure and decision making in the final third never fails to amaze me. So many times today we had overloads which you just know would result in a goal if we were on the receiving end whereas we seem to always fuck it up
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Post by jp on Sept 28, 2024 14:54:27 GMT 1
It's such hard work watching us. The formation is awkward, everything is rushed. Just so scrappy and incohesive. Nobody looks comfortable and we just look really poor. So many things appear to be wrong and it's so depressing to think about it all. Fucking fed up of it. Combined with the lower standard of ability it’s making for very rough viewing indeed atm.. Not sure where we go from here…
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Post by runner76 on Sept 28, 2024 15:01:16 GMT 1
In isolation I thought we were better team and didn’t deserve to lose.. However we usually find a way to lose.. Manager needs time.. Mid table mediocrity beckons this season.. 💩💩 Same. Missed middle 30 mins but from what I saw we were much improved on last two games and unlucky to not come away with a point. Reading had an annoying game plan and it worked. Way (way) too many individual errors and ‘off’ days again for too many players but it did look a step forward from the last game, at least. We just again seem toothless in the final third. No creative attacking threat. We also just seem a bit ‘lost’ in the middle of the park. Seems like a jumble of different players at different times in different positions - needs tightening up. I’m still hopeful of a Top 6 but something (s) significant need changing
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Post by kwami-hodouto on Sept 28, 2024 15:02:33 GMT 1
To be honest, I just can't be arsed with this club anymore.
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Post by 28901 on Sept 28, 2024 15:06:34 GMT 1
To be honest, I just can't be arsed with this club anymore. Feel the same. Barely react to a goal for or against any more. Just complete resignation when they go in front. I knew then it was game over.
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Post by dumbo on Sept 28, 2024 15:08:50 GMT 1
Really needed a win today as October is looking scary. Birmingham then Barnsley twice next with Wrexham later in the month.
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Post by stevvy on Sept 28, 2024 15:12:30 GMT 1
Opposition teams know even if we take the lead, that if they equalise, they'll likely win anyway.
As soon as anything negative happens, heads drop and they never rise again. No character.
The squad is full of players used to losing here. The squad needed absolutely gutting in the summer (easier said than done if players are under contract), 15-20 gone and the same in, with actual quality.
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Post by htafcdan on Sept 28, 2024 15:13:17 GMT 1
To be honest, I just can't be arsed with this club anymore. Feel the same. Barely react to a goal for or against any more. Just complete resignation when they go in front. I knew then it was game over. every time we go behind heads fall completely and the wheels come off. when’s the last time we’ve seen us go behind and reacted? watford away?
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