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Post by ilsonterrier on Sept 28, 2024 19:15:46 GMT 1
The goal was definitely offside. Even if Pearson wasn't, which is hard to tell, Lonwijk is and he's gone for the ball. Good decision from the linesman. But that's not what the rule says these days. Even if Lonwijk is in an offside position, if he doesn't touch it, then he's not deemed to be interfering (unless he blocks the goalies view). |
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Sept 28, 2024 19:17:09 GMT 1
I know emotions are running high after another defeat and what has been a very poor spell.
I went to another early match today so didn’t see our match.
From the stats etc it does sound like it was better than the last two matches (low bar I know!!!).
Northampton and Blackpool were awful performances - no doubt.
I would love to get a genuine impression (emotion put to one side) on how we played today based on this one match on its own merits?
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Post by impact on Sept 28, 2024 19:30:28 GMT 1
The goal was definitely offside. Even if Pearson wasn't, which is hard to tell, Lonwijk is and he's gone for the ball. Good decision from the linesman. But that's not what the rule says these days. Even if Lonwijk is in an offside position, if he doesn't touch it, then he's not deemed to be interfering (unless he blocks the goalies view). That isn't the law. By attempting to play the ball he impacts the opponent and in particular the keeper, so it is offside. |
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Post by ilsonterrier on Sept 28, 2024 19:34:46 GMT 1
But that's not what the rule says these days. Even if Lonwijk is in an offside position, if he doesn't touch it, then he's not deemed to be interfering (unless he blocks the goalies view). That isn't the law. By attempting to play the ball he impacts the opponent and in particular the keeper, so it is offside. Are you sure? I'm sure I've seen goals just like that allowed when VAR is involved. |
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Post by dugnet on Sept 28, 2024 19:38:31 GMT 1
I know emotions are running high after another defeat and what has been a very poor spell. I went to another early match today so didn’t see our match. From the stats etc it does sound like it was better than the last two matches (low bar I know!!!). Northampton and Blackpool were awful performances - no doubt. I would love to get a genuine impression (emotion put to one side) on how we played today based on this one match on its own merits? We were definitely better in parts but we don't convince in terms of quality. The formation is, still for me, unconvincing. I don't think it helps when we give the ball away cheaply. We don't have enough dominant characters to stamp authority on games. We we are weak mentally and physically. That is probably the most damning criticism of our recruitment. Duff, still, has to find ways of winning. In truth he probably would still like to make changes to personnel. I can see points being picked up between now and January but will it be enough to maintain a top 6 challenge? I think, based on what I have seen so far, that looks doubtful right now. Of course that won't be good enough for the fan base and I can see a fractious few weeks on the horizon. |
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Post by impact on Sept 28, 2024 19:39:29 GMT 1
That isn't the law. By attempting to play the ball he impacts the opponent and in particular the keeper, so it is offside. Are you sure? I'm sure I've seen goals just like that allowed when VAR is involved. 100%. If he doesn't play the ball he may get away with it, but attempting to play the ball in the position means it should always be ruled out. |
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Post by scroutum on Sept 28, 2024 20:25:45 GMT 1
Let’s get this in perspective,we lost against a team in disarray,a team that are very poor and we get beat again,5/6 in defeat and you don’t think it’s time to panic,Christ when is it time then
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 28, 2024 21:12:54 GMT 1
I know emotions are running high after another defeat and what has been a very poor spell. I went to another early match today so didn’t see our match. From the stats etc it does sound like it was better than the last two matches (low bar I know!!!). Northampton and Blackpool were awful performances - no doubt. I would love to get a genuine impression (emotion put to one side) on how we played today based on this one match on its own merits? We were definitely better in parts but we don't convince in terms of quality. The formation is, still for me, unconvincing. I don't think it helps when we give the ball away cheaply. We don't have enough dominant characters to stamp authority on games. We we are weak mentally and physically. That is probably the most damning criticism of our recruitment. Duff, still, has to find ways of winning. In truth he probably would still like to make changes to personnel. I can see points being picked up between now and January but will it be enough to maintain a top 6 challenge? I think, based on what I have seen so far, that looks doubtful right now. Of course that won't be good enough for the fan base and I can see a fractious few weeks on the horizon. We were out in Town earlier and discussing exactly this. I think unfortunately we are not at the the bottom of our pain quite yet. I know it’s early but I feel like we have failed to sign the right characters who have the right hunger and ability to move us forward. I look at the squad and I just don’t see winners through it, I’d be delighted to be proved wrong but I’m not sure the group we’ve assembled are all that bothered about the success of HTFC |
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Post by belvoirterrier on Sept 28, 2024 21:42:29 GMT 1
After the last series of results and the performances in particular against teams who in the main were struggling,suggests that those who still think of a top six finish are deluded. I remember only too well our slide in to the bottom division in the 70’s and fear that the personnel, results and performances in the main for the last 4 or more seasons could lead us in the same direction,The season at best is likely to be mid table and another relegation battle at worse if results and performances do not improve.
Things should be clearer in the next month of fixtures.
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Post by rab030 on Sept 29, 2024 1:18:03 GMT 1
Better performance today than the previous two but still woeful in many respects.
My biggest problem is the formation. The 3 very rarely manage to pass to the 5 and it almost never gets to the 2.
I actually don’t know if we have any decent strikers at this level because they never get the ball. Can anybody say if Bojan had a good or bad game today? Did he actually get to kick the ball?
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Post by detox on Sept 29, 2024 6:04:48 GMT 1
Well, we're now mid table and likely to fall further in the coming weeks.
This is going to do anything for the fragile confidence of the players.
We're soon going to be nearer the bottom than the top, then it becomes yet another relegation battle.
A crisis is looming and many fans have been predicting this for some time. The mismanagement at the club the lack of investment tells us too many senior officers have been asleep at the wheel and I include KN in that.
There's a horrible inevitability at the club again. Many of us have spoken of it but deluded accusations of bed wetting has been the response.
I hate to say, told you so,take no satisfaction at all in this but for god's sake Town, wake up !
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Post by Terriersmad on Sept 29, 2024 7:15:29 GMT 1
Let’s get this in perspective,we lost against a team in disarray,a team that are very poor and we get beat again,5/6 in defeat and you don’t think it’s time to panic,Christ when is it time then Nine times out of ten we win that game. One time in twenty Reading win it. A barometer here is xG. Reading’s xG was 0.24. Repeat the same chances, and on average they don’t score at all. They scored twice from two shots with low chances of scoring. It happens from time to time. Our xG: 1.91. Which doesn’t include the disallowed goal, which would push it over 2 - a high number for xG. We were profligate with what we created, but we did create. A succession of lower chance shots (average xG 0.1 per shot - 10% chance v Reading’s average 6% from 6 shots), true. But we created more and better chances than Reading. Repeat the same game and we win. Data analysis isn’t perfect. Teams out- and under-perform xG all the time. But it does tell us that the performance yesterday is much better than some - including yourself - have made out. Taken in isolation, it was just one of those days. If you’re panicking about it then get another hobby. |
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Post by kindo on Sept 29, 2024 7:34:56 GMT 1
Let’s get this in perspective,we lost against a team in disarray,a team that are very poor and we get beat again,5/6 in defeat and you don’t think it’s time to panic,Christ when is it time then Nine times out of ten we win that game. One time in twenty Reading win it. A barometer here is xG. Reading’s xG was 0.24. Repeat the same chances, and on average they don’t score at all. They scored twice from two shots with low chances of scoring. It happens from time to time. Our xG: 1.91. Which doesn’t include the disallowed goal, which would push it over 2 - a high number for xG. We were profligate with what we created, but we did create. A succession of lower chance shots (average xG 0.1 per shot - 10% chance v Reading’s average 6% from 6 shots), true. But we created more and better chances than Reading. Repeat the same game and we win. Data analysis isn’t perfect. Teams out- and under-perform xG all the time. But it does tell us that the performance yesterday is much better than some - including yourself - have made out. Taken in isolation, it was just one of those days. If you’re panicking about it then get another hobby. Absolute joke, I asked earlier on, how many points did we get today? What level of football did you play at? |
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Post by nicovaesen on Sept 29, 2024 7:39:26 GMT 1
But that's not what the rule says these days. Even if Lonwijk is in an offside position, if he doesn't touch it, then he's not deemed to be interfering (unless he blocks the goalies view). That isn't the law. By attempting to play the ball he impacts the opponent and in particular the keeper, so it is offside. Very easy law to manipulate if you’re Abu Dhabi FC or we love VAR twiglet FC. |
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Post by scroutum on Sept 29, 2024 7:41:33 GMT 1
Nine times out of ten we win that game. One time in twenty Reading win it. A barometer here is xG. Reading’s xG was 0.24. Repeat the same chances, and on average they don’t score at all. They scored twice from two shots with low chances of scoring. It happens from time to time. Our xG: 1.91. Which doesn’t include the disallowed goal, which would push it over 2 - a high number for xG. We were profligate with what we created, but we did create. A succession of lower chance shots (average xG 0.1 per shot - 10% chance v Reading’s average 6% from 6 shots), true. But we created more and better chances than Reading. Repeat the same game and we win. Data analysis isn’t perfect. Teams out- and under-perform xG all the time. But it does tell us that the performance yesterday is much better than some - including yourself - have made out. Taken in isolation, it was just one of those days. If you’re panicking about it then get another hobby. Absolute joke, I asked earlier on, how many points did we get today? What level of football did you play at? the person talks bollocks,5 defeats from 6 games and he still thinks the performance was goid |
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Post by nicovaesen on Sept 29, 2024 7:42:31 GMT 1
Let’s get this in perspective,we lost against a team in disarray,a team that are very poor and we get beat again,5/6 in defeat and you don’t think it’s time to panic,Christ when is it time then Nine times out of ten we win that game. One time in twenty Reading win it. A barometer here is xG. Reading’s xG was 0.24. Repeat the same chances, and on average they don’t score at all. They scored twice from two shots with low chances of scoring. It happens from time to time. Our xG: 1.91. Which doesn’t include the disallowed goal, which would push it over 2 - a high number for xG. We were profligate with what we created, but we did create. A succession of lower chance shots (average xG 0.1 per shot - 10% chance v Reading’s average 6% from 6 shots), true. But we created more and better chances than Reading. Repeat the same game and we win. Data analysis isn’t perfect. Teams out- and under-perform xG all the time. But it does tell us that the performance yesterday is much better than some - including yourself - have made out. Taken in isolation, it was just one of those days. If you’re panicking about it then get another hobby. Wonder what our XYZ computer based facts goals per computer thingy were when we finished up being in the playoff final three seasons ago? Would anyone swap? |
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Post by Larry David on Sept 29, 2024 7:44:33 GMT 1
How anyone who knows anything about football can say that performance was better is beyond my capability of thought.
The bar was so horrendously low, literally getting on the bastard bus and popping your shin pads on would have been better.
We failed to find out men so many times
Misplaced passes all over the shop
Surrendered a lead
Substitutions made zero impact
Lost the midfield
Created little
Strikers awful
The fact they had two shots on target and scored two goals and we had umpteen and score one is NOT A CAUSE FOR CELEBRATING...it's a dire indicator of where we are
There is a soft underbelly at this club, enabled by the likes of Duff...it's your job to sort it but you are enabling it. About 5 weeks ago he said they were a quiet bunch, so sort it then.
The longer these mugs who celebrate mediocrity keep doing so the longer we will hover around this crappy league and I think it will honestly get worse before it gets better.
The fans expect and deserve so much more from the owners and playing staff.
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Post by ColchTerrier on Sept 29, 2024 7:51:07 GMT 1
XG my arse.
Only one stat that counts.
New manager needed asap!
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 29, 2024 8:20:18 GMT 1
Let’s get this in perspective,we lost against a team in disarray,a team that are very poor and we get beat again,5/6 in defeat and you don’t think it’s time to panic,Christ when is it time then Nine times out of ten we win that game. One time in twenty Reading win it. A barometer here is xG. Reading’s xG was 0.24. Repeat the same chances, and on average they don’t score at all. They scored twice from two shots with low chances of scoring. It happens from time to time. Our xG: 1.91. Which doesn’t include the disallowed goal, which would push it over 2 - a high number for xG. We were profligate with what we created, but we did create. A succession of lower chance shots (average xG 0.1 per shot - 10% chance v Reading’s average 6% from 6 shots), true. But we created more and better chances than Reading. Repeat the same game and we win. Data analysis isn’t perfect. Teams out- and under-perform xG all the time. But it does tell us that the performance yesterday is much better than some - including yourself - have made out. Taken in isolation, it was just one of those days. If you’re panicking about it then get another hobby. Sounds like we need to get onto the Football League and get them to re-do the Third Division table. From what you’re saying maybe we should be top. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Sept 29, 2024 8:21:34 GMT 1
Absolute joke, I asked earlier on, how many points did we get today? What level of football did you play at? the person talks bollocks,5 defeats from 6 games and he still thinks the performance was goid Nope. I've been very clear what I think the performance was: decent; no more, no less. And the result: poor. Arising from mistakes and poor fortune. As I have pointed out any number of times: games like yesterday happen. That's the nature of the game. Someone can score from a half-chance. Every shot a side has can go in when they've been heavily under the cosh. We could decry everything as awful, like you do, in simplistic terms. Or we can analyse, work out what went well and where to improve. Work out nuance. Work on weakness while identifying strengths. Seeing the positives without being blinded by them or by the problems. The result should not take away from the fact we were the 'better' side, so we need to work out how to turn that superiority into results again. xG has its failings, notably in its cumulative, aggregated nature. But as a tool for analysis it's invaluable, along with the other data analysis suites. There's a reason the likes of Brighton and Brentford have been able to consistently identify players to improve them and have established themselves at the top table: their use of data analysis is outstanding and has underpinned their success. Crawley are in this division because they have used data analysis superbly - a side that 'should' on club size and budgets be in non-league has got off to a better than expected start in the third tier because they have been so good with use of data and analysis. A club that dismisses it is doomed to slide down the leagues. Fans who don't understand it are doomed to ignorance in the long-term. What we can say is that, on balance of play and chances, yesterday represented something of a freak result - but as I've said, they do happen. Chapman has had nothing to do yesterday, while their keeper has consistently been busy. The data on yesterday's game puts the lie to the idea that we were awful yesterday. We created enough chances, and created better chances than the opposition (I actually calculated their chances of scoring per shot incorrectly - it's 4% not 6%). Football being football, they scored with both of their half-chances, one of which was gifted to them by us. As I've said time after time: that happens. We didn't take our chances. That also happens. It's football. Someone can score an absolute worldie on a wing and a prayer, and someone can miss three open goals in a game for the other side. But that won't happen every week. It doesn't change yesterday's result, but if we play like that against similar opposition, create the same chances, stop chances in the same way, we'll win far more often than not. THAT is the point. And that's despite lacking fluency. Despite struggling to get strikers to have good quality chances in front of goal. As for a previous point about the standard I've played at: relevance? Many people within football never played it to any real standard compared to where they ended up. Jack Charlton was an inferior footballer to Bobby, but a deeper thinker about the game and a better manager. Mourinho was a bang average footballer in Portugal, but has been one of the great managers. It's rare that a great player makes a great manager or thinker about the game. More common is the decent player who was imaginative who then goes on to innovate as a manager. Chapman. Lobanovskyi. Bielsa. Mourinho. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Sept 29, 2024 8:22:12 GMT 1
Nine times out of ten we win that game. One time in twenty Reading win it. A barometer here is xG. Reading’s xG was 0.24. Repeat the same chances, and on average they don’t score at all. They scored twice from two shots with low chances of scoring. It happens from time to time. Our xG: 1.91. Which doesn’t include the disallowed goal, which would push it over 2 - a high number for xG. We were profligate with what we created, but we did create. A succession of lower chance shots (average xG 0.1 per shot - 10% chance v Reading’s average 6% from 6 shots), true. But we created more and better chances than Reading. Repeat the same game and we win. Data analysis isn’t perfect. Teams out- and under-perform xG all the time. But it does tell us that the performance yesterday is much better than some - including yourself - have made out. Taken in isolation, it was just one of those days. If you’re panicking about it then get another hobby. Sounds like we need to get onto the Football League and get them to re-do the Third Division table. From what you’re saying maybe we should be top. No, I'm just saying don't write off the performance as awful like too many are without thinking about what they actually saw. |
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Post by dezzly on Sept 29, 2024 8:56:17 GMT 1
I know emotions are running high after another defeat and what has been a very poor spell. I went to another early match today so didn’t see our match. From the stats etc it does sound like it was better than the last two matches (low bar I know!!!). Northampton and Blackpool were awful performances - no doubt. I would love to get a genuine impression (emotion put to one side) on how we played today based on this one match on its own merits? It’s difficult because I normally try to put emotion to one side when commenting on things. I watched the game,as a watch it felt generally poor.However the first half I don’t think we played too badly.We were the better side(though that’s not much of a compliment) After the game it’s the first time this season iv been generally raging to the point of making comments such as “that’s it I’m done with them” etc etc I then didn’t come on here and barely looked at twitter.This morning the first thing I saw was a clip from radio Leeds interview with david Kasumu saying “we dominated the game” and I thought that’s way off what I was watching.I then went on a twitter page called EFL stats and was pretty surprised to see what I saw. 3rd in the division for xG 1.9,2nd in the division for ground duels won 41(something duff said we did none of previous two games),1st in division for tackles won 19,2nd in the division for shots on target 7,1st in the division for total shots 19. I go on there after most games and I don’t remember any this season where we have been that high up in any stats.I’d say these stats are some of the most important ones if looking at it from an attacking sort of sense. So it’s left me wondering and you can maybe then see why from a players/coaches perspective they feel like they’ve dominated the game. From a fans perspective it doesn’t feel like that although flip the two halves round and it probably feels a bit different. I think the reason I’m raging is because we haven’t won that game because we can’t do basic thing’s properly.Their goals two examples.The pass into koroma isn’t a hard one for him to deal with and his subsequent pass is,well,pathetic.Then what is nige doing,edge of your own box with bodies all around and trying to play a 5 yard pass that’s not on.Just stick your boot through it.I’m not Matty Pearsons biggest fan but if that ball is on his side I know where it’s going and we don’t concede. Then the second one it’s just a bit poor all round.Slack marking from the short corner,a big lunge from Spencer(who had a poor game for me) that ends up straight to their man central and then no one gets a block in. So maybe we did dominate to an extent just maybe it doesn’t feel like it because of the nature of how we lost. But overriding feeling is if you gift teams goals,even poor sides,then you don’t deserve anything from a game. I do fear for what Tuesday has in store to be honest. Also to add the second should have never stood. It was a dead ball not a corner,then their player touches ball twice which you can’t do and also not only that the ball was still moving.So we’ve been shafted a touch there. Also iv not seen it again but the disallowed goal of Pearson,pretty sure he’s onside tbh,just someone else who doesn’t get near it(nige) is offside. So really in cold light of day everything says we should have won that game. Maybe if we hadn’t been so poor the previous two games we’d see yesterday from a very different perspective |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 29, 2024 9:06:56 GMT 1
I popped onto this board about 2.45 yesterday to put my prediction league forecast in.
Looking for the team selection on this page to assist with that and realised it was at 17 pages 15 mins before ko…
Still took me a couple of mins to realise it was a 12.30 ko…
Sounds like I missed a thriller… 😉
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 29, 2024 9:21:41 GMT 1
Just seen the highlights and for the disallowed goal it's Longwijk that's offside by ghe looks off things and that Reading lad definitely takes that corner twice.
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Post by ilsonterrier on Sept 29, 2024 10:12:06 GMT 1
Just seen the highlights and for the disallowed goal it's Longwijk that's offside by ghe looks off things and that Reading lad definitely takes that corner twice. The more I see that corner, the more it seems like an deliberate double kick. It doesn't look like he's slipped and hit it twice. |
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Post by bogart on Sept 29, 2024 10:17:52 GMT 1
Something is definitely wrong . After seeing Northampton and Blackpool and reading of yesterday my mindset is currently not fussed.
After the Northampton debacle was so annoyed with the team but after yesterday I have a could not care less attitude. I hope it changes
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Post by Scott Chegg on Sept 29, 2024 10:29:19 GMT 1
the person talks bollocks,5 defeats from 6 games and he still thinks the performance was goid Nope. I've been very clear what I think the performance was: decent; no more, no less. And the result: poor. Arising from mistakes and poor fortune. As I have pointed out any number of times: games like yesterday happen. That's the nature of the game. Someone can score from a half-chance. Every shot a side has can go in when they've been heavily under the cosh. We could decry everything as awful, like you do, in simplistic terms. Or we can analyse, work out what went well and where to improve. Work out nuance. Work on weakness while identifying strengths. Seeing the positives without being blinded by them or by the problems. The result should not take away from the fact we were the 'better' side, so we need to work out how to turn that superiority into results again. xG has its failings, notably in its cumulative, aggregated nature. But as a tool for analysis it's invaluable, along with the other data analysis suites. There's a reason the likes of Brighton and Brentford have been able to consistently identify players to improve them and have established themselves at the top table: their use of data analysis is outstanding and has underpinned their success. Crawley are in this division because they have used data analysis superbly - a side that 'should' on club size and budgets be in non-league has got off to a better than expected start in the third tier because they have been so good with use of data and analysis. A club that dismisses it is doomed to slide down the leagues. Fans who don't understand it are doomed to ignorance in the long-term. What we can say is that, on balance of play and chances, yesterday represented something of a freak result - but as I've said, they do happen. Chapman has had nothing to do yesterday, while their keeper has consistently been busy. The data on yesterday's game puts the lie to the idea that we were awful yesterday. We created enough chances, and created better chances than the opposition (I actually calculated their chances of scoring per shot incorrectly - it's 4% not 6%). Football being football, they scored with both of their half-chances, one of which was gifted to them by us. As I've said time after time: that happens. We didn't take our chances. That also happens. It's football. Someone can score an absolute worldie on a wing and a prayer, and someone can miss three open goals in a game for the other side. But that won't happen every week. It doesn't change yesterday's result, but if we play like that against similar opposition, create the same chances, stop chances in the same way, we'll win far more often than not. THAT is the point. And that's despite lacking fluency. Despite struggling to get strikers to have good quality chances in front of goal. As for a previous point about the standard I've played at: relevance? Many people within football never played it to any real standard compared to where they ended up. Jack Charlton was an inferior footballer to Bobby, but a deeper thinker about the game and a better manager. Mourinho was a bang average footballer in Portugal, but has been one of the great managers. It's rare that a great player makes a great manager or thinker about the game. More common is the decent player who was imaginative who then goes on to innovate as a manager. Chapman. Lobanovskyi. Bielsa. Mourinho. Got as far as the end of your 1st sentence. Decent performance? It was abysmal pal. I think that good performances from this lot are so few and far between, you might have forgotten what one looks like. |
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Post by dezzly on Sept 29, 2024 11:33:07 GMT 1
Nope. I've been very clear what I think the performance was: decent; no more, no less. And the result: poor. Arising from mistakes and poor fortune. As I have pointed out any number of times: games like yesterday happen. That's the nature of the game. Someone can score from a half-chance. Every shot a side has can go in when they've been heavily under the cosh. We could decry everything as awful, like you do, in simplistic terms. Or we can analyse, work out what went well and where to improve. Work out nuance. Work on weakness while identifying strengths. Seeing the positives without being blinded by them or by the problems. The result should not take away from the fact we were the 'better' side, so we need to work out how to turn that superiority into results again. xG has its failings, notably in its cumulative, aggregated nature. But as a tool for analysis it's invaluable, along with the other data analysis suites. There's a reason the likes of Brighton and Brentford have been able to consistently identify players to improve them and have established themselves at the top table: their use of data analysis is outstanding and has underpinned their success. Crawley are in this division because they have used data analysis superbly - a side that 'should' on club size and budgets be in non-league has got off to a better than expected start in the third tier because they have been so good with use of data and analysis. A club that dismisses it is doomed to slide down the leagues. Fans who don't understand it are doomed to ignorance in the long-term. What we can say is that, on balance of play and chances, yesterday represented something of a freak result - but as I've said, they do happen. Chapman has had nothing to do yesterday, while their keeper has consistently been busy. The data on yesterday's game puts the lie to the idea that we were awful yesterday. We created enough chances, and created better chances than the opposition (I actually calculated their chances of scoring per shot incorrectly - it's 4% not 6%). Football being football, they scored with both of their half-chances, one of which was gifted to them by us. As I've said time after time: that happens. We didn't take our chances. That also happens. It's football. Someone can score an absolute worldie on a wing and a prayer, and someone can miss three open goals in a game for the other side. But that won't happen every week. It doesn't change yesterday's result, but if we play like that against similar opposition, create the same chances, stop chances in the same way, we'll win far more often than not. THAT is the point. And that's despite lacking fluency. Despite struggling to get strikers to have good quality chances in front of goal. As for a previous point about the standard I've played at: relevance? Many people within football never played it to any real standard compared to where they ended up. Jack Charlton was an inferior footballer to Bobby, but a deeper thinker about the game and a better manager. Mourinho was a bang average footballer in Portugal, but has been one of the great managers. It's rare that a great player makes a great manager or thinker about the game. More common is the decent player who was imaginative who then goes on to innovate as a manager. Chapman. Lobanovskyi. Bielsa. Mourinho. Got as far as the end of your 1st sentence. Decent performance? It was abysmal pal. I think that good performances from this lot are so few and far between, you might have forgotten what one looks like. To be honest I think his post is an absolutely brilliant one.The performance was decent.decent is not good it is not brilliant it’s basically another way of saying adequate or something similar. Like in my previous post,I got caught up in the emotion yesterday.But when you actually think about the game and read that post it’s bang on the money.Yes everything said there doesn’t change the fact we lost,it doesn’t change the fact that the previous two performances were largely poor,it doesn’t change the fact we’ve lost 6 in 7 or 4 in 5 in the league but that’s not how he’s coming at it(or her 😂)It’s been looked at completely from the view of just yesterdays game!! Reproduce yesterday every week between now and Christmas and we probably win more than we lose. That said just winning more than we lose isn’t good enough and the fluency with which we play does need to be somewhere round the corner. I’m not happy with how this weeks gone but I can step back a day later and look at one game in isolation and relax a touch. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 29, 2024 13:30:48 GMT 1
That corner was a shocker really.
Quality of officials at this level remains poor, but we have to get to a position whereby it doesn’t affect our games.
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Post by griffa on Sept 29, 2024 13:48:45 GMT 1
Relieved to see Miller back on the pitch. It is crucial he stays fit because Headley looks like a player who wishes he was anywhere but on a football pitch. Some of the mistakes he made today were unbelievable, his head is all over the place. He looked a talent when he broke through but right now he wouldn't get a game for any other side in this division If we're calling out players, although Spencer, is a young talent, he is full of mistakes, as witnessed yesterday. Koroma's pass was poor, but their were plenty of Town players, who could & should have cleared the ball. We had enough chances yesterday comfortably win the game, thought disallowed goal decision was harsh. The referee was poor, he allowed Reading to waste time & throw themselves to ground, far too often! |
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