HD1

[malcolmbrown]

I can never understand the antipathy that some people have to students living in town.

I'd have more, it brings life to the area.

Fair play to Kirklees for having some sort of a plan. Let's hope it works!

[Deleted]

Jun 26, 2019 21:58:38 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

The foot print of the Town Centre needs reducing if it's struggling with empty shops. The Queensgate idea is a good one, I would clear the market out and make it into a concert venue/exhibition linked in with the University. I would also demolish the Wilko end of New Street only leaving the old Co-op buildings behind, build something worthy to improve the Town's image whether that be a shopping arcade or a culture/leisure area.

This snippet from one of shopkeepers in Town. Wilkos is relocating to the old BHS store as the proposed work on the old Co-op building would prove bad for their business .

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Jun 26, 2019 21:11:57 GMT 1 Ginger Ogre said:

Jun 26, 2019 19:40:44 GMT 1 malcolmbrown said:

www.kirklees.gov.uk/beta/huddersfield-blueprint/index.aspx

New plans for the town centre. Time to forget HDone?

They did a lot of this in Bradford and opened the new Broadway Shopping Centre (eventually)

The place looks a lot nicer down that end, but it's only acted like a magnet and drawn all the shops from the top end of town to the bottom, so the top end is now vacant shops and nothingness. I fear for Huddersfield the Kingsgate could have a similar effect.

Also, the type of folk that are in the town centre also play a massive (probably biggest) factor in people visiting. You can tart it up as much as you want, but if people still feel venerable walking around they won't come and go somewhere that they do.

A lot more work needs to be done to address that more than making the place look pretty.

The Bradford parallel is an interesting one and I think the Kirklees plans do echo some of the good points of that city whilst attempting to start addressing the specific problems of Huddersfield with something more wider ranging and comprehensive than what they’ve done with Bradford city centre.

If there had been a similar strategic vision for Bradford published 15-20 years ago, it would have looked similar to this one...considering the Broadway as synonymous with Kingsgate expansion.

They also opened out Centenary Square, what was previously a pretty dismal area into effectively an inner city park, and that has attracted some decent eatery and drinkeries around it now and is a nicer place. An opened up, more accessible Piazza area in town could easily replicate that as a place to meet and hang out, it suddenly becomes an attractive gateway to the town for 20,000+ students who are across the road.

It’s a real shame that the Lawrence Batley theatre isn’t down nearer St Peters gardens, as that would make that whole area much more focused in terms of what they seem to have planned for around there, but again, that could easily become the kind of area they’re aiming for as some kind of cultural zone...for whatever reason, the streets around that area seem to attract polish, Caribbean and Asian shops along with the occasional arty stuff. Something has to happen around St Peters gardens, it’s a bit like Greenhead Park was 20 years ago, and that’s now a reasonable open space that families are happy to spend time at with kids.

Then New Street, they’ve acknowledged there’s a decreasing demand for town centre retail space, and that the town centre is effectively too big...so they effectively encroach into the skanky end of New Street and turn that into town centre accommodation (full of lots of people who will go to the new Piazza area to hang out)....probably addressing some of the demand for 1 and 2 bedroom housing into the bargain as the UK population becomes less family oriented and people tend to a more solitary existence, with online social engagement and meet ups, rather than traditional mum dad and two kids as was the norm for the last 80 years...(off the backdrop of the greenfield developers wanting to build 4+ bedroom houses as there is more margin for them, solving no problems whilst tipping a half hearted hat towards “social housing”).

That results in less shopping units in the town centre, and compressed into the more modern part of New Street which has become very sad in the last few years, this Street probably being the real victim of the “death of the high street” and the “Kingsgate effect”. This used to be a Street where you’d find the River Islands, and Nexts and Waterstones etc...the challenge here is going to be in attracting that level of retailer back to that high street...somehow getting a flagship into the old M&S building (and I know they’re not exactly M&S or Next, but maybe for example Primark moving from their current location to M&S could be one indicator that the newish bit of New Street is an area where shops will attract footfall, and it pulls another retailer away from that horrible poundshop end of New Street so the focus can be moved towards residential.

Of course, there is another challenge...the pound shops and charity shops aren’t in existence for no reason...they’re there because they’re needed and a key part of modern society...do they get squeezed out of New Street, or do they get encouraged to move into the vacant units in the newer bit of New Street, which might put off the “nice” retailers from going there, which is why they all ended up in Kingsgate in the first place.


Interesting times....it’s a good vision...wish it would stretch out and encompass a future for the old Sports Centre too. The delivered reality will of course be somewhat different, and these things always happen slowly, but I suspect in 15 years or so we may see a more compact and focussed town centre start to emerge.

[Mastercracker]

Jun 27, 2019 11:11:47 GMT 1 @nt said:

Jun 26, 2019 21:11:57 GMT 1 Ginger Ogre said:

They did a lot of this in Bradford and opened the new Broadway Shopping Centre (eventually)

The place looks a lot nicer down that end, but it's only acted like a magnet and drawn all the shops from the top end of town to the bottom, so the top end is now vacant shops and nothingness. I fear for Huddersfield the Kingsgate could have a similar effect.

Also, the type of folk that are in the town centre also play a massive (probably biggest) factor in people visiting. You can tart it up as much as you want, but if people still feel venerable walking around they won't come and go somewhere that they do.

A lot more work needs to be done to address that more than making the place look pretty.

The Bradford parallel is an interesting one and I think the Kirklees plans do echo some of the good points of that city whilst attempting to start addressing the specific problems of Huddersfield with something more wider ranging and comprehensive than what they’ve done with Bradford city centre.

If there had been a similar strategic vision for Bradford published 15-20 years ago, it would have looked similar to this one...considering the Broadway as synonymous with Kingsgate expansion.

They also opened out Centenary Square, what was previously a pretty dismal area into effectively an inner city park, and that has attracted some decent eatery and drinkeries around it now and is a nicer place. An opened up, more accessible Piazza area in town could easily replicate that as a place to meet and hang out, it suddenly becomes an attractive gateway to the town for 20,000+ students who are across the road.

It’s a real shame that the Lawrence Batley theatre isn’t down nearer St Peters gardens, as that would make that whole area much more focused in terms of what they seem to have planned for around there, but again, that could easily become the kind of area they’re aiming for as some kind of cultural zone...for whatever reason, the streets around that area seem to attract polish, Caribbean and Asian shops along with the occasional arty stuff. Something has to happen around St Peters gardens, it’s a bit like Greenhead Park was 20 years ago, and that’s now a reasonable open space that families are happy to spend time at with kids.

Then New Street, they’ve acknowledged there’s a decreasing demand for town centre retail space, and that the town centre is effectively too big...so they effectively encroach into the skanky end of New Street and turn that into town centre accommodation (full of lots of people who will go to the new Piazza area to hang out)....probably addressing some of the demand for 1 and 2 bedroom housing into the bargain as the UK population becomes less family oriented and people tend to a more solitary existence, with online social engagement and meet ups, rather than traditional mum dad and two kids as was the norm for the last 80 years...(off the backdrop of the greenfield developers wanting to build 4+ bedroom houses as there is more margin for them, solving no problems whilst tipping a half hearted hat towards “social housing”).

That results in less shopping units in the town centre, and compressed into the more modern part of New Street which has become very sad in the last few years, this Street probably being the real victim of the “death of the high street” and the “Kingsgate effect”. This used to be a Street where you’d find the River Islands, and Nexts and Waterstones etc...the challenge here is going to be in attracting that level of retailer back to that high street...somehow getting a flagship into the old M&S building (and I know they’re not exactly M&S or Next, but maybe for example Primark moving from their current location to M&S could be one indicator that the newish bit of New Street is an area where shops will attract footfall, and it pulls another retailer away from that horrible poundshop end of New Street so the focus can be moved towards residential.

Of course, there is another challenge...the pound shops and charity shops aren’t in existence for no reason...they’re there because they’re needed and a key part of modern society...do they get squeezed out of New Street, or do they get encouraged to move into the vacant units in the newer bit of New Street, which might put off the “nice” retailers from going there, which is why they all ended up in Kingsgate in the first place.


Interesting times....it’s a good vision...wish it would stretch out and encompass a future for the old Sports Centre too. The delivered reality will of course be somewhat different, and these things always happen slowly, but I suspect in 15 years or so we may see a more compact and focussed town centre start to emerge.

Problem is, do you have any faith in Kirklees delivering?

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Jun 27, 2019 11:26:27 GMT 1 Mastercracker said:

Jun 27, 2019 11:11:47 GMT 1 @nt said:

The Bradford parallel is an interesting one and I think the Kirklees plans do echo some of the good points of that city whilst attempting to start addressing the specific problems of Huddersfield with something more wider ranging and comprehensive than what they’ve done with Bradford city centre.

If there had been a similar strategic vision for Bradford published 15-20 years ago, it would have looked similar to this one...considering the Broadway as synonymous with Kingsgate expansion.

They also opened out Centenary Square, what was previously a pretty dismal area into effectively an inner city park, and that has attracted some decent eatery and drinkeries around it now and is a nicer place. An opened up, more accessible Piazza area in town could easily replicate that as a place to meet and hang out, it suddenly becomes an attractive gateway to the town for 20,000+ students who are across the road.

It’s a real shame that the Lawrence Batley theatre isn’t down nearer St Peters gardens, as that would make that whole area much more focused in terms of what they seem to have planned for around there, but again, that could easily become the kind of area they’re aiming for as some kind of cultural zone...for whatever reason, the streets around that area seem to attract polish, Caribbean and Asian shops along with the occasional arty stuff. Something has to happen around St Peters gardens, it’s a bit like Greenhead Park was 20 years ago, and that’s now a reasonable open space that families are happy to spend time at with kids.

Then New Street, they’ve acknowledged there’s a decreasing demand for town centre retail space, and that the town centre is effectively too big...so they effectively encroach into the skanky end of New Street and turn that into town centre accommodation (full of lots of people who will go to the new Piazza area to hang out)....probably addressing some of the demand for 1 and 2 bedroom housing into the bargain as the UK population becomes less family oriented and people tend to a more solitary existence, with online social engagement and meet ups, rather than traditional mum dad and two kids as was the norm for the last 80 years...(off the backdrop of the greenfield developers wanting to build 4+ bedroom houses as there is more margin for them, solving no problems whilst tipping a half hearted hat towards “social housing”).

That results in less shopping units in the town centre, and compressed into the more modern part of New Street which has become very sad in the last few years, this Street probably being the real victim of the “death of the high street” and the “Kingsgate effect”. This used to be a Street where you’d find the River Islands, and Nexts and Waterstones etc...the challenge here is going to be in attracting that level of retailer back to that high street...somehow getting a flagship into the old M&S building (and I know they’re not exactly M&S or Next, but maybe for example Primark moving from their current location to M&S could be one indicator that the newish bit of New Street is an area where shops will attract footfall, and it pulls another retailer away from that horrible poundshop end of New Street so the focus can be moved towards residential.

Of course, there is another challenge...the pound shops and charity shops aren’t in existence for no reason...they’re there because they’re needed and a key part of modern society...do they get squeezed out of New Street, or do they get encouraged to move into the vacant units in the newer bit of New Street, which might put off the “nice” retailers from going there, which is why they all ended up in Kingsgate in the first place.


Interesting times....it’s a good vision...wish it would stretch out and encompass a future for the old Sports Centre too. The delivered reality will of course be somewhat different, and these things always happen slowly, but I suspect in 15 years or so we may see a more compact and focussed town centre start to emerge.

Problem is, do you have any faith in Kirklees delivering?

It’s a vision, and it’s not wholly in their control. I don’t need to have faith in Kirklees delivering.


What I’d like to think is that this gives a framework for improvement in our town centre and sells a vision to retailers and property developers that they might want to be part of. I don’t see how anyone can not want that.

[Ox Terrier]

I've just been out into Shrewsbury. The place is absolutely thriving. Lovely town, lots of decent shops, bars, restaurants, architecture. It even has a Wimpy! I openly laughed as I walked past. It looks brand new. I know Shrewsbury doesn't have the competition that Huddersfield does, but as Kevin Costner once said 'if you build it, he will come'. 'He', in this case, being 'they'!

[rothwellterrier]

Jun 27, 2019 16:08:48 GMT 1 Ox Terrier said:

I've just been out into Shrewsbury. The place is absolutely thriving. Lovely town, lots of decent shops, bars, restaurants, architecture. It even has a Wimpy! I openly laughed as I walked past. It looks brand new. I know Shrewsbury doesn't have the competition that Huddersfield does, but as Kevin Costner once said 'if you build it, he will come'. 'He', in this case, being 'they'!

I think I saw a tweet from Sean Jarvis saying one was opening up again in Huddersfield too.

[Christ in Shades (art)]

Jun 27, 2019 8:52:58 GMT 1 Mastercracker said:

northernteahouse.co.uk/

Decent independent coffee/café. Might be a bit upmarket for a man who preferred Chris Beech to Arron Mooy though.

That is one of the few places I would eat, along with The Keys under the Parish Church and there is one on Cloth Hall Street where I go sometimes. All in all unless you want booze on a lunchtime with your dinner it's limited.

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Jun 27, 2019 16:20:47 GMT 1 rothwellterrier said:

Jun 27, 2019 16:08:48 GMT 1 Ox Terrier said:

I've just been out into Shrewsbury. The place is absolutely thriving. Lovely town, lots of decent shops, bars, restaurants, architecture. It even has a Wimpy! I openly laughed as I walked past. It looks brand new. I know Shrewsbury doesn't have the competition that Huddersfield does, but as Kevin Costner once said 'if you build it, he will come'. 'He', in this case, being 'they'!

I think I saw a tweet from Sean Jarvis saying one was opening up again in Huddersfield too.

As I already mentioned, the old Wimpy has new adverts on the window looking for staff.

[Deleted]

Jun 27, 2019 16:22:16 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

Jun 27, 2019 8:52:58 GMT 1 Mastercracker said:

northernteahouse.co.uk/

Decent independent coffee/café. Might be a bit upmarket for a man who preferred Chris Beech to Arron Mooy though.

That is one of the few places I would eat, along with The Keys under the Parish Church and there is one on Cloth Hall Street where I go sometimes. All in all unless you want booze on a lunchtime with your dinner it's limited.

I realise Spoons is not your thing, but 'booze' is not compulsory. Thanks to a buy one coffee/tea you can drink it all day for free policy, it's quite popular down in the Lord Wilson. Having said that I also prefer The Keys for food.

[benhomly]

Jun 27, 2019 16:08:48 GMT 1 Ox Terrier said:

I've just been out into Shrewsbury. The place is absolutely thriving. Lovely town, lots of decent shops, bars, restaurants, architecture. It even has a Wimpy! I openly laughed as I walked past. It looks brand new. I know Shrewsbury doesn't have the competition that Huddersfield does, but as Kevin Costner once said 'if you build it, he will come'. 'He', in this case, being 'they'!

That'd be that picturesque, medieval town steeped in history with a castle and an abbey which sits in a loop of the river Severn? Jesus, you might as well have compared us with a day out in York or Chester.

[Ox Terrier]

Jun 27, 2019 16:54:58 GMT 1 benhomly said:

Jun 27, 2019 16:08:48 GMT 1 Ox Terrier said:

I've just been out into Shrewsbury. The place is absolutely thriving. Lovely town, lots of decent shops, bars, restaurants, architecture. It even has a Wimpy! I openly laughed as I walked past. It looks brand new. I know Shrewsbury doesn't have the competition that Huddersfield does, but as Kevin Costner once said 'if you build it, he will come'. 'He', in this case, being 'they'!

That'd be that picturesque, medieval town steeped in history with a castle and an abbey which sits in a loop of the river Severn? Jesus, you might as well have compared us with a day out in York or Chester.

But I wasn’t in York or Chester! I didn’t see the castle, abbey or river but what I did see was a clean, well kept and well occupied town centre.

[benhomly]

Jun 27, 2019 17:00:43 GMT 1 Ox Terrier said:

Jun 27, 2019 16:54:58 GMT 1 benhomly said:

That'd be that picturesque, medieval town steeped in history with a castle and an abbey which sits in a loop of the river Severn? Jesus, you might as well have compared us with a day out in York or Chester.

But I wasn’t in York or Chester! I didn’t see the castle, abbey or river but what I did see was a clean, well kept and well occupied town centre.

Yes, more than likely paid for by millions of pounds worth of tourism every year. Like comparing Man City with Hyde United.

[hdee]

Apr 13, 2019 10:37:55 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

Apr 13, 2019 10:18:19 GMT 1 space hardware said:

Is that where the Police used to play cricket, Woodfield Park?

Yes it is, I don't whether it's still owned by the bizzies or not though, I suspect not.

its owned by the giants for the giants academy and training center its with the planning permission and there was some absetos found so they have to get it cleared then they can start building it

[Ox Terrier]

Jun 27, 2019 17:06:03 GMT 1 benhomly said:

Jun 27, 2019 17:00:43 GMT 1 Ox Terrier said:

But I wasn’t in York or Chester! I didn’t see the castle, abbey or river but what I did see was a clean, well kept and well occupied town centre.

Yes, more than likely paid for by millions of pounds worth of tourism every year. Like comparing Man City with Hyde United.

Oh it’s not fair! Stop talking about nice places. Or clean places. Or centres with no unoccupied shops. I’ll only accept comparison with even bigger shit holes and far worse places.

Is that what you mean?

[Deleted]

Jun 27, 2019 18:20:14 GMT 1 Ox Terrier said:

Jun 27, 2019 17:06:03 GMT 1 benhomly said:

Yes, more than likely paid for by millions of pounds worth of tourism every year. Like comparing Man City with Hyde United.

Oh it’s not fair! Stop talking about nice places. Or clean places. Or centres with no unoccupied shops. I’ll only accept comparison with even bigger shit holes and far worse places.

Is that what you mean?

You could try comparing us with Bolton, Oldham, Dewsbury etc.

[Ox Terrier]

Jun 27, 2019 18:29:00 GMT 1 @jameshudd72 said:

Jun 27, 2019 18:20:14 GMT 1 Ox Terrier said:

Oh it’s not fair! Stop talking about nice places. Or clean places. Or centres with no unoccupied shops. I’ll only accept comparison with even bigger shit holes and far worse places.

Is that what you mean?

You could try comparing us with Bolton, Oldham, Dewsbury etc.

But I’ve never been to those centres so I’m unable to compare. Most likely never will. Since leaving Huddersfield I’ve lived in York, Shrewsbury, Oxford, just outside Limassol (Cyprus), Oxford (again) and Shrewsbury (again). Maybe I’ve become accustomed to better places over the years and can no longer see the old norm as being acceptable. Prior to leaving, I couldn’t see past it and was the first to stick up for ‘everything’ it had. It didn’t take me long to realise that there was a whole lot more than Huddersfield.
My point is this; if the centre can’t at the very least be cleaned up, made to look welcoming and offer decent shopping, what do people genuinely expect the future to hold for it?

[benhomly]

Jun 27, 2019 18:53:29 GMT 1 Ox Terrier said:

Jun 27, 2019 18:29:00 GMT 1 @jameshudd72 said:

You could try comparing us with Bolton, Oldham, Dewsbury etc.

But I’ve never been to those centres so I’m unable to compare. Most likely never will. Since leaving Huddersfield I’ve lived in York, Shrewsbury, Oxford, just outside Limassol (Cyprus), Oxford (again) and Shrewsbury (again). Maybe I’ve become accustomed to better places over the years and can no longer see the old norm as being acceptable. Prior to leaving, I couldn’t see past it and was the first to stick up for ‘everything’ it had. It didn’t take me long to realise that there was a whole lot more than Huddersfield.
My point is this; if the centre can’t at the very least be cleaned
up, made to look welcoming and offer decent shopping, what do people genuinely expect the future to hold for it?

Don’t think anyone from Huddersfield would pretend that it’s the nicest place in the world but to ‘show it up’ against the places you mention is just a complete nonsense and totally unnecessary

[Deleted]

Jun 27, 2019 18:53:29 GMT 1 Ox Terrier said:

Jun 27, 2019 18:29:00 GMT 1 @jameshudd72 said:

You could try comparing us with Bolton, Oldham, Dewsbury etc.

But I’ve never been to those centres so I’m unable to compare. Most likely never will. Since leaving Huddersfield I’ve lived in York, Shrewsbury, Oxford, just outside Limassol (Cyprus), Oxford (again) and Shrewsbury (again). Maybe I’ve become accustomed to better places over the years and can no longer see the old norm as being acceptable. Prior to leaving, I couldn’t see past it and was the first to stick up for ‘everything’ it had. It didn’t take me long to realise that there was a whole lot more than Huddersfield.
My point is this; if the centre can’t at the very least be cleaned up, made to look welcoming and offer decent shopping, what do people genuinely expect the future to hold for it?

Don't think I could answer that without going all political and I ain't doing that.

[joeyjoneslocker]

Jesus, how many times is Wimpy mentioned on this thread?
I’m starting to think the problem isn’t the council but, simply, people.
You need to stop reminiscing and get with the times. Who wants a bloody Wimpy. If you want a real burger go to Pax. If you want chips go to the local chippy. We need nice eating places, not crappy 80’s throwbacks.

[k1man999]

Jun 27, 2019 18:29:00 GMT 1 @jameshudd72 said:

Jun 27, 2019 18:20:14 GMT 1 Ox Terrier said:

Oh it’s not fair! Stop talking about nice places. Or clean places. Or centres with no unoccupied shops. I’ll only accept comparison with even bigger shit holes and far worse places.

Is that what you mean?

You could try comparing us with Bolton, Oldham, Dewsbury etc.

To be fair Oldham Town centre is smaller but over the last 2 yrs it's actually not bad new cinema complex using the old Town Hall magnificent conversion with eateries attached and nice square.
The spindles is a better shopping centre than Kingsgate.
Oldham in general is a shit hole I work there but gotta give them credit for trying with the town centre.
Problem with kirkless is this town centre regeneration is at least 10 Yr too late they kept up their fantasy of hd1 while other towns and cities over took us.
A good example is Bury.

[Ox Terrier]

Jun 27, 2019 19:13:19 GMT 1 benhomly said:

Jun 27, 2019 18:53:29 GMT 1 Ox Terrier said:

But I’ve never been to those centres so I’m unable to compare. Most likely never will. Since leaving Huddersfield I’ve lived in York, Shrewsbury, Oxford, just outside Limassol (Cyprus), Oxford (again) and Shrewsbury (again). Maybe I’ve become accustomed to better places over the years and can no longer see the old norm as being acceptable. Prior to leaving, I couldn’t see past it and was the first to stick up for ‘everything’ it had. It didn’t take me long to realise that there was a whole lot more than Huddersfield.
My point is this; if the centre can’t at the very least be cleaned
up, made to look welcoming and offer decent shopping, what do people genuinely expect the future to hold for it?

Don’t think anyone from Huddersfield would pretend that it’s the nicest place in the world but to ‘show it up’ against the places you mention is just a complete nonsense and totally unnecessary

Maybe it simply comes down to personal standards then.

[Deleted]

Jun 27, 2019 19:57:41 GMT 1 Ox Terrier said:

Jun 27, 2019 19:13:19 GMT 1 benhomly said:

Don’t think anyone from Huddersfield would pretend that it’s the nicest place in the world but to ‘show it up’ against the places you mention is just a complete nonsense and totally unnecessary

Maybe it simply comes down to personal standards then.

No, it all comes down to......MONEY!

[Christ in Shades (art)]

I'm not sure you can compare Oxford, York or Shrewsbury with Huddersfield in all honesty, different demographic, different places, they're not industrial working class places.

[Porrohman]

Jun 27, 2019 19:41:56 GMT 1 joeyjoneslocker said:

Jesus, how many times is Wimpy mentioned on this thread?
I’m starting to think the problem isn’t the council but, simply, people.
You need to stop reminiscing and get with the times. Who wants a bloody Wimpy. If you want a real burger go to Pax. If you want chips go to the local chippy. We need nice eating places, not crappy 80’s throwbacks.

Trail all the way to Lindley to pay an arm and a leg for a poncey burger. No ta

[Deleted]

Jun 27, 2019 19:41:56 GMT 1 joeyjoneslocker said:

Jesus, how many times is Wimpy mentioned on this thread?
I’m starting to think the problem isn’t the council but, simply, people.
You need to stop reminiscing and get with the times. Who wants a bloody Wimpy. If you want a real burger go to Pax. If you want chips go to the local chippy. We need nice eating places, not crappy 80’s throwbacks.

60s Junior. First in the uk was 1954.

[Christ in Shades (art)]

Jun 27, 2019 21:32:12 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Jun 27, 2019 19:41:56 GMT 1 joeyjoneslocker said:

Jesus, how many times is Wimpy mentioned on this thread?
I’m starting to think the problem isn’t the council but, simply, people.
You need to stop reminiscing and get with the times. Who wants a bloody Wimpy. If you want a real burger go to Pax. If you want chips go to the local chippy. We need nice eating places, not crappy 80’s throwbacks.

Trail all the way to Lindley to pay an arm and a leg for a poncey burger. No ta

Where do you live, Marsh?

[Porrohman]

Jun 27, 2019 21:45:50 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

Jun 27, 2019 21:32:12 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Trail all the way to Lindley to pay an arm and a leg for a poncey burger. No ta

Where do you live, Marsh?

No but my Grandad used to live on Smiths Avenue

[Deleted]

Jun 27, 2019 18:53:29 GMT 1 Ox Terrier said:

Jun 27, 2019 18:29:00 GMT 1 @jameshudd72 said:

You could try comparing us with Bolton, Oldham, Dewsbury etc.

But I’ve never been to those centres so I’m unable to compare. Most likely never will. Since leaving Huddersfield I’ve lived in York, Shrewsbury, Oxford, just outside Limassol (Cyprus), Oxford (again) and Shrewsbury (again). Maybe I’ve become accustomed to better places over the years and can no longer see the old norm as being acceptable. Prior to leaving, I couldn’t see past it and was the first to stick up for ‘everything’ it had. It didn’t take me long to realise that there was a whole lot more than Huddersfield.
My point is this; if the centre can’t at the very least be cleaned up, made to look welcoming and offer decent shopping, what do people genuinely expect the future to hold for it?

That’ll be why there’s a published vision for the town centre out whose aims are to clean it up, make it look welcoming and offer decent shopping and community space.

So I guess to you this blueprint sounds like the beginnings of a move in the right direction??

I honestly don’t understand why people’s immediate reaction is to moan about it!!! “The town centre is shit”, here’s a strategy to improve it, the response?? “The town centre is shit”. It makes no sense.

It’s like saying, “Town are rubbish they’ve just been relegated, it’s pointless trying to refresh the squad and battle to try and get back up again because we’re a rubbish relegated team”.

We’ve just signed Harry Kane???Who cares, it’s a waste of time, Ben Hamer is rubbish.

[nicovaesen]

Jun 27, 2019 16:08:48 GMT 1 Ox Terrier said:

I've just been out into Shrewsbury. The place is absolutely thriving. Lovely town, lots of decent shops, bars, restaurants, architecture. It even has a Wimpy! I openly laughed as I walked past. It looks brand new. I know Shrewsbury doesn't have the competition that Huddersfield does, but as Kevin Costner once said 'if you build it, he will come'. 'He', in this case, being 'they'!

Didn’t James Earl Jones say that? And the main baseball player was ray liotta?