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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Aug 5, 2014 14:18:39 GMT 1
Lets get it right, Clayton was the best of a bad bunch and that was only after Pato had twatted him. 2 Million. Great piece of business, as long as we find someone to replace him. Can we get Pato round to yours to help you improve?
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 5, 2014 14:18:43 GMT 1
Do we actually know he is going? or are we just relying on rumours at the moment Town need to sell Clayton if thats the only money available to sign the players desperatly needed especially in central defence.
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Post by ritchie on Aug 5, 2014 14:23:08 GMT 1
As a selling club, why do folk presume we will use any of the fee for actually buying players? Not a dig but an observation that the sales of Rhodes, Pilks and Hunt weren't followed by us actually buying replacements. I see very little correlation between selling players for hard cash and replacing them with fees paid. More likely is that we will invest in longterm targets as we have (Lolley, Wells etc) and any incoming fees purely service the debt a little. I see very little chance of Clayton's sale being followed in the next 48hrs by Robins flashing the chequebook around. agree overall that the fees just offset the general running of the club/previous transfers/future transfers and wont all be blown on transfers....difference being other summers we have usually spent dosh before the sale - so when the money comes in it just tops up what we've spent. this season, 2 frees and a loan...our wage budget will be lower than last. so i wouldnt be surprised if this sale resulted in some splashings of cashings. we will need to. our squad will be worse than the one that finished last season diabolically
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Aug 5, 2014 14:23:51 GMT 1
Do we actually know he is going? or are we just relying on rumours at the moment Town need to sell Clayton if thats the only money available to sign the players desperatly needed especially in central defence. If, and it is a big if, we reinvest the funds for a strong, commanding centre half who can also captain the side, then this is good business. We have viable midfield options – Majewski, Norwood, Hogg, Billing, Holmes, Tronstadt, Peltier and Gobern can all pay here – we have options. We lack quality at centre half. Clayton was our best player last season, but we have the capability to replace from within. Strong CB, maybe a loaned striker. Job done.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 14:26:14 GMT 1
As a selling club, why do folk presume we will use any of the fee for actually buying players? Not a dig but an observation that the sales of Rhodes, Pilks and Hunt weren't followed by us actually buying replacements. I see very little correlation between selling players for hard cash and replacing them with fees paid. More likely is that we will invest in longterm targets as we have (Lolley, Wells etc) and any incoming fees purely service the debt a little. I see very little chance of Clayton's sale being followed in the next 48hrs by Robins flashing the chequebook around. agree overall that the fees just offset the general running of the club/previous transfers/future transfers and wont all be blown on transfers....difference being other summers we have usually spend dosh before the sale - so when the money comes in it just tops up what we've spent. this season 2 frees and a loan...our wage budget will be lower than last. so i wouldnt be surprised if this sale resulted in some splashings of cashings. we will need to. our squad will be worse than the one that finished last season diabolically Dont usually agree with turd talker, but this has been going on for weeks, it was obvious he would eventually move. I fully expect us to have replacement/additions lined up and agreed. If we dont, its been a terrible window for the club and I better stick a few quid on relegation before the odds shorten with the sale of clayton.
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Post by tony on Aug 5, 2014 14:28:04 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 14:28:24 GMT 1
Town need to sell Clayton if thats the only money available to sign the players desperatly needed especially in central defence. If, and it is a big if, we reinvest the funds for a strong, commanding centre half who can also captain the side, then this is good business. We have viable midfield options – Majewski, Norwood, Hogg, Billing, Holmes, Tronstadt, Peltier and Gobern can all pay here – we have options. We lack quality at centre half. Clayton was our best player last season, but we have the capability to replace from within. Strong CB, maybe a loaned striker. Job done. I agree with that,
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Aug 5, 2014 14:30:01 GMT 1
If, and it is a big if, we reinvest the funds for a strong, commanding centre half who can also captain the side, then this is good business. We have viable midfield options – Majewski, Norwood, Hogg, Billing, Holmes, Tronstadt, Peltier and Gobern can all pay here – we have options. We lack quality at centre half. Clayton was our best player last season, but we have the capability to replace from within. Strong CB, maybe a loaned striker. Job done. I agree with that, welcome to "Club Rationality"
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Post by rantinray on Aug 5, 2014 14:30:26 GMT 1
It will be interesting to hear what Robins has to say for himself this evening on Radio Leeds at 6:00pm tonight. To all those that think this deal is good business could you answer me one simple question: Who is replacing him?
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Post by rantinray on Aug 5, 2014 14:32:11 GMT 1
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Post by terrierng on Aug 5, 2014 14:32:20 GMT 1
agree overall that the fees just offset the general running of the club/previous transfers/future transfers and wont all be blown on transfers....difference being other summers we have usually spend dosh before the sale - so when the money comes in it just tops up what we've spent. this season 2 frees and a loan...our wage budget will be lower than last. so i wouldnt be surprised if this sale resulted in some splashings of cashings. we will need to. our squad will be worse than the one that finished last season diabolically Dont usually agree with turd talker, but this has been going on for weeks, it was obvious he would eventually move. I fully expect us to have replacement/additions lined up and agreed. If we dont, its been a terrible window for the club and I better stick a few quid on relegation before the odds shorten with the sale of clayton. Thought you said yesterday we had three lined up?.....
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Aug 5, 2014 14:32:53 GMT 1
Well at 1000 this morning he was having his haircut in Cleckheaton. So had to be a quick trip up A1. Personally don't want him to leave good player,potential captain and I honestly believe he doesn't want to leave but like we all would if someone offers you more money and better conditions then you'd take it. Hoping that The club can reach an amicable agreement. Be sad to see him go under a dark cloud He could have agreed the extension to his contract if he wanted to stay. Better money offered elsewhere has proved to be the deciding factor as it was with Rhodes and similar to that move, I don't foresee the buying club moving up the divisional status anytime soon.
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Post by townatheart on Aug 5, 2014 14:34:02 GMT 1
Town need to sell Clayton if thats the only money available to sign the players desperatly needed especially in central defence. If, and it is a big if, we reinvest the funds for a strong, commanding centre half who can also captain the side, then this is good business. We have viable midfield options – Majewski, Norwood, Hogg, Billing, Holmes, Tronstadt, Peltier and Gobern can all pay here – we have options. We lack quality at centre half. Clayton was our best player last season, but we have the capability to replace from within. Strong CB, maybe a loaned striker. Job done. good post, calm, sensible, rationale, and with a bit of merit. think you are lost and on the wrong board lad
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Aug 5, 2014 14:37:44 GMT 1
It will be interesting to hear what Robins has to say for himself this evening on Radio Leeds at 6:00pm tonight. To all those that think this deal is good business could you answer me one simple question: Who is replacing him? Did Robins sell him? You can't spin this to be Robins' fault anyway you look at it - It's the Chairman's decision to sell. It's hardly ideal for a manager to have one of his main men sold in the week leading up to the start of the season. I'm sure the possibility of his sale has been discussed and players targeted with the proceeds but similar to home buying chains one thing needs to happen before anything else does. I think it will be a busy time for Robins, DH et al at the moment.
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Post by tafftheterrier on Aug 5, 2014 14:37:58 GMT 1
Just another player moving on for a profit, he has been ok when the formation suited him.
He will be forgotten about in a few months!
Not in my top 50 favourite Town players from my time of watching Town.
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Post by rantinray on Aug 5, 2014 14:38:14 GMT 1
If, and it is a big if, we reinvest the funds for a strong, commanding centre half who can also captain the side, then this is good business. We have viable midfield options – Majewski, Norwood, Hogg, Billing, Holmes, Tronstadt, Peltier and Gobern can all pay here – we have options. We lack quality at centre half. Clayton was our best player last season, but we have the capability to replace from within. Strong CB, maybe a loaned striker. Job done. good post, calm, sensible, rationale, and with a bit of merit. think you are lost and on the wrong board lad Correct me if I am wrong (I know you will) but didnt a shed load of money go to purchase ICI rec club from the Rhodes deal?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 14:38:24 GMT 1
Dont usually agree with turd talker, but this has been going on for weeks, it was obvious he would eventually move. I fully expect us to have replacement/additions lined up and agreed. If we dont, its been a terrible window for the club and I better stick a few quid on relegation before the odds shorten with the sale of clayton. Thought you said yesterday we had three lined up?..... I did and we have. Thats why Im saving my money and maybe lumping on a playoff place instead.
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Post by Melc on Aug 5, 2014 14:40:43 GMT 1
It will be interesting to hear what Robins has to say for himself this evening on Radio Leeds at 6:00pm tonight. To all those that think this deal is good business could you answer me one simple question: Who is replacing him? A player who will fit in next season in league one and on peanuts for wages!
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Post by rantinray on Aug 5, 2014 14:40:54 GMT 1
It will be interesting to hear what Robins has to say for himself this evening on Radio Leeds at 6:00pm tonight. To all those that think this deal is good business could you answer me one simple question: Who is replacing him? Did Robins sell him? You can't spin this to be Robins' fault anyway you look at it - It's the Chairman's decision to sell. It's hardly ideal for a manager to have one of his main men sold in the week leading up to the start of the season. I'm sure the possibility of his sale has been discussed and players targeted with the proceeds but similar to home buying chains one thing needs to happen before anything else does. I think it will be a busy time for Robins, DH et al at the moment. Look at what has happened at Notts Forest. Pearce had no input to the sale of players over his head. He is livid that was the reason Warnock turned the job down, outside influences dictating the team.
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Post by rantinray on Aug 5, 2014 14:41:57 GMT 1
Thought you said yesterday we had three lined up?..... I did and we have. Thats why Im saving my money and maybe lumping on a playoff place instead. Are we having playoffs for relegation? Superleague are starting that.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 5, 2014 14:42:40 GMT 1
Do we actually know he is going? or are we just relying on rumours at the moment Clayton needs to be sold if thats the only money being made availabe to Robins to bring in the replacements to fill the gaps of failure from last season
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 14:43:16 GMT 1
Town need to sell Clayton if thats the only money available to sign the players desperatly needed especially in central defence. If, and it is a big if, we reinvest the funds for a strong, commanding centre half who can also captain the side, then this is good business. We have viable midfield options – Majewski, Norwood, Hogg, Billing, Holmes, Tronstadt, Peltier and Gobern can all pay here – we have options. We lack quality at centre half. Clayton was our best player last season, but we have the capability to replace from within. Strong CB, maybe a loaned striker. Job done. I agree we definitely need a commanding centre back who is comfortable on the ball, but we should be looking to sign one of them anyway regardless of Clayton leaving, I know it's extra money for Deano to spend, but it needs to be done. If Clayton leaves, and I'd be absolutely gutted if he did, then we need a good passing centre midfielder in ASAP to replace him. We're each entitled to our opinions but for me those midfield options you listed are not good enough.. I think Hogg is very average, Majewski sounds like a good player but we'll have to see in given time, and Norwood is far too inconsistent. Then we'll be relying on the youngsters and Gobern to fill Claytons boots... No, for me if he leaves we need to sign a new quality midfielder to replace him with which won't be easy to do at all
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Post by Guthlac on Aug 5, 2014 14:43:20 GMT 1
That is a shit amount of money for him - completely ripped off - well not pleased with that!
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 5, 2014 14:46:49 GMT 1
Do we actually know he is going? or are we just relying on rumours at the moment Robins has no option but to let Clayton go if thats the only money being made availabe to bring in the replacements to fill the gaps of failure from last season
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 14:48:20 GMT 1
I did and we have. Thats why Im saving my money and maybe lumping on a playoff place instead. Are we having playoffs for relegation? Superleague are starting that. wait for Clayton to go and get on a top half finish. In deano we trust. Foreign guy will be world class in this division.
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Post by mykindatown on Aug 5, 2014 14:55:49 GMT 1
will he create a messi of the opponent's defence
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Post by stevvy on Aug 5, 2014 14:58:10 GMT 1
If nothing is announced officially pre match tonight, expect the team sheet to tell people if he's gone or not (or for people to interpret the team sheet anyway)
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Post by Torquayterrier on Aug 5, 2014 14:59:02 GMT 1
That is a shit amount of money for him - completely ripped off - well not pleased with that! Even after sell-ons and agents fees it'll be around 4 times what we paid for him and by the end of this season he can go for free, doesn't look interested in signing a new contract. One player doesn't make a team, good though Clayton has been. Use the money wisely and we could end up with a more competitive overrall unit. As said before we do have other midfielders but we are short on a commanding CB and a proven striker.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:00:32 GMT 1
Are we having playoffs for relegation? Superleague are starting that. wait for Clayton to go and get on a top half finish. In deano we trust. Foreign guy will be world class in this division. Is that the foreign guy that no one seems to know who he is?
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 5, 2014 15:01:27 GMT 1
That is a shit amount of money for him - completely ripped off - well not pleased with that! 2 million doesnt go far on the wage demands of today especially if Robins is looking to bring in 3 quality Championship players .
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