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Post by mightyterrier on Aug 5, 2014 15:04:36 GMT 1
Was gutted to see Pilks and Rhodes go, with Clayton I'm almost as indifferent as I was when Hunt left last summer. The only thing that bothers me about it is seeing people on here and Twitter throw a paddy because we're having to live within our means. Looking forward to the 'lack of ambition' posts when we haven't signed Chris Wood by ten o'clock tomorrow morning. (This all depends on the Clayton rumour actually being true...) Great post mate, sums my thoughts up exactly
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 5, 2014 15:07:12 GMT 1
That is a shit amount of money for him - completely ripped off - well not pleased with that! Even after sell-ons and agents fees it'll be around 4 times what we paid for him and by the end of this season he can go for free, doesn't look interested in signing a new contract. One player doesn't make a team, good though Clayton has been. Use the money wisely and we could end up with a more competitive overrall unit. As said before we do have other midfielders but we are short on a commanding CB and a proven striker. 2 million wont go far especially if Robins has to rely on it to pay 3 Championship quality players transfer/ wage demands.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 5, 2014 15:17:15 GMT 1
Even after sell-ons and agents fees it'll be around 4 times what we paid for him and by the end of this season he can go for free, doesn't look interested in signing a new contract. One player doesn't make a team, good though Clayton has been. Use the money wisely and we could end up with a more competitive overrall unit. As said before we do have other midfielders but we are short on a commanding CB and a proven striker. Looks like 1.5 million with add ons to Middlesboro but that money wont go far especially if Robins has to rely on it to pay 3 Championship quality players transfer/ wage demands.
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Post by rocky on Aug 5, 2014 15:20:30 GMT 1
Quality player & gutted to see him go, but the writing has been on the wall for a while now & Town can't turn that sort of money down.
The next few days could go some way to softening the blow & only when we see how the money is spent (assuming it is), can we properly judge this.
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Post by thomo on Aug 5, 2014 15:23:43 GMT 1
Well let's face it our midfield was shocking with him. Norwood and Hogg will never be up to mid table championship standard. Hopefully the money can be used to start afresh in midfield. We now need at least 3 proven championship quality additions before Saturday (cm, cb, st), possibly more (rb?, another cm?). Hopefully incomings will be all tee'd up as soon as the Clayton deal is completed. Anything less is sheer incompetence on the board's part as we've known for long enough Clayton would be off.
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Post by Melc on Aug 5, 2014 15:25:06 GMT 1
Quality player & gutted to see him go, but the writing has been on the wall for a while now & Town can't turn that sort of money down. The next few days could go some way to softening the blow & only when we see how the money is spent (assuming it is), can we properly judge this. Joking apart you are right rocky, but can the club attract the right sort if players when our better ones are being sold. Players and agents are playing the field now, but I do fear we will struggle to get the quality we need.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 5, 2014 15:25:05 GMT 1
Every club is a selling club in the UK - even Man Utd can do nothing when Real come knocking for their star man
Town are no different and if an annual sale avoids a slide into admin so be it.
We don't make enough money through the turnstiles and Deano can't fund everything indefinately so selling a player annually (Pilks, Rhodes, Hunt, Clayton?) has to be the model.
End of the day all four are Championship players still so if others will pay more good luck to them. I still think we have a decent team and expect new faces to replace key players when they leave
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Post by royrace on Aug 5, 2014 15:26:07 GMT 1
it was good to have a thread that ain't forty odd pages long and not full of irrelevant crap from a month ago but some nana locked it! Lots of people don't seem to understand how a forum should work!!
Seeya clayts, king is dead, long live the king. This whole saga is a good lesson of how the bosman ruling can be a right pita for clubs. Nothing else the club could have done I wouldn't imagine except for make sure they have a contingency plan place. Wonder who it is....
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Post by k1man999 on Aug 5, 2014 15:26:44 GMT 1
i like clayton thinks he is a good player however we are getting 2m for a player that on the face of it did not want to re sign and would have been free to leave in the summer. so we have got the transfer money and what he would have been paid this season to go and see what we can gethopefully. we have sold plenty of players over the years and the only one i can remeber in my time watching town that has directly influenced where we have finished or how we have played was stewart. onwards and upwards. UTT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:28:34 GMT 1
easy money. Billing or Holmes (or my jet ski) in. 2 mill in the bank.
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Aug 5, 2014 15:31:34 GMT 1
Quality player & gutted to see him go, but the writing has been on the wall for a while now & Town can't turn that sort of money down. The next few days could go some way to softening the blow & only when we see how the money is spent (assuming it is), can we properly judge this. Joking apart you are right rocky, but can the club attract the right sort if players when our better ones are being sold. Players and agents are playing the field now, but I do fear we will struggle to get the quality we need. Don't worry about that Mel - Liverpool sold Suarez and Man Utd sold Ronaldo. Selling players isn't a problem - even if they're you're best ones - as long as you have the structure and talent to recruit others. Thats the issue and the test for Huddersfield now........ hopefully the team have someone in mind knowing this was going to happen. And at least it hasn't happened on deadline day when we're screwed to find a replacement. If we don't bring in a solid replacement - we have no one else to blame except the back room team. Over to you boys.....
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Post by keithAM11532 on Aug 5, 2014 15:31:39 GMT 1
Its a good thing in my opinion. We get a sack full of cash and we lose his high wage. That should allow us to get a Premiership player on loan. Loan players for the season are a good way to go.
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Post by k1man999 on Aug 5, 2014 15:32:24 GMT 1
from what i have seen of Billing in the youth sides give him a chance i think he might just be the man. alternativly CROOKS big strong not bad on the ball and can tackle although MR seems to like him as a CB
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:33:51 GMT 1
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 5, 2014 15:42:10 GMT 1
from what i have seen of Billing in the youth sides give him a chance i think he might just be the man. alternativly CROOKS big strong not bad on the ball and can tackle although MR seems to like him as a CB Normally these young players like Crooks and Billing would benefit from being around first team players but could end up the other way round.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 5, 2014 15:43:12 GMT 1
from what i have seen of Billing in the youth sides give him a chance i think he might just be the man. alternativly CROOKS big strong not bad on the ball and can tackle although MR seems to like him as a CB Normally young players like Crooks and Billing would benefit from being around first team players but could end up the other way round.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:44:49 GMT 1
Another thing for those who dont think £1.5m is a good deal, is perhaps remembering the thread where it was rumoured he and Paterson had been sacked last autumn. Not many seemed that concerned about losing him for free!
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Post by k1man999 on Aug 5, 2014 15:47:01 GMT 1
from what i have seen of Billing in the youth sides give him a chance i think he might just be the man. alternativly CROOKS big strong not bad on the ball and can tackle although MR seems to like him as a CB Normally these young players like Crooks and Billing would benefit from being around first team players but could end up the other way round. exactly bit of youthfull desire etc. young players have to start somewhere look at southhampton they bring young players through all the time into the first team and put trust in them as do other like derby with hughes etc.
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Post by thomo on Aug 5, 2014 15:47:40 GMT 1
from what i have seen of Billing in the youth sides give him a chance i think he might just be the man. alternativly CROOKS big strong not bad on the ball and can tackle although MR seems to like him as a CB Neither seem to have featured in midfield with the first team in pre season. It would suggest robins doesn't think billing is ready and that he doesn't see crooks as a cm.
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Post by rantinray on Aug 5, 2014 15:51:26 GMT 1
Use the money wisely? We could not attract any players prior to this sale so why should it be different now? We will end up buying an overpriced cast off or we will be going down the loan road whereby we get a player/s who have no real commitment to the club.
Ok getting the amount we have is good for the club but if the money does not stave off relegation then for me it was a bad deal. I am still waiting to see progress in the 5 year plan. As yet I have witnessed nothing, no progress or desire to make a squad of players capable of transfixing HTFC mid to higher in this division. At the moment I see relegation stamped all over our club.
Sorry but that is how I see it. In a few weeks time we shall be getting "Robins Out" threads.
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Post by k1man999 on Aug 5, 2014 15:54:10 GMT 1
from what i have seen of Billing in the youth sides give him a chance i think he might just be the man. alternativly CROOKS big strong not bad on the ball and can tackle although MR seems to like him as a CB Neither seem to have featured in midfield with the first team in pre season. It would suggest robins doesn't think billing is ready and that he doesn't see crooks as a cm. to be fair not really seen MR as a manager pre season,however his hand may be forced now. no point investing all this cash in youth if they dont get the opportunities that arise like this.
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Post by TownFanSam on Aug 5, 2014 15:54:32 GMT 1
Pretty depressing that we constantly have to sell our best players to survive
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Post by rantinray on Aug 5, 2014 15:58:02 GMT 1
Pretty depressing that we constantly have to sell our best players to survive Could not agree more. To me it shows no commitment in building a good squad of players to compete regularly at this level.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:58:56 GMT 1
Use the money wisely? We could not attract any players prior to this sale so why should it be different now? We will end up buying an overpriced cast off or we will be going down the loan road whereby we get a player/s who have no real commitment to the club. Ok getting the amount we have is good for the club but if the money does not stave off relegation then for me it was a bad deal. I am still waiting to see progress in the 5 year plan. As yet I have witnessed nothing, no progress or desire to make a squad of players capable of transfixing HTFC mid to higher in this division. At the moment I see relegation stamped all over our club. Sorry but that is how I see it. In a few weeks time we shall be getting "Robins Out" threads. If going from escaping relegation in the final ten minutes, to being safe in March is not progress, may I enquire what is?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 16:04:20 GMT 1
Maybe just maybe Deano is hoping that selling Clayton and making 1.7million which although i am pissed he has gone, I would do the same, He might see this as the deal which Breaks Robins resolve and gives him the excuse to walk, Blaming the sale for the reason to do so, Robins has done it before, That way if Deano has lost faith in him but doesn't want to pay him off, He now has a win win situation, Large profit for a new manager to spend and doesn't get seen in the light as a trigger happy chairman & Robins gets to walk with a suitable excuse in his eyes. All speculation mind but one can hope.
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Post by rantinray on Aug 5, 2014 16:06:50 GMT 1
Use the money wisely? We could not attract any players prior to this sale so why should it be different now? We will end up buying an overpriced cast off or we will be going down the loan road whereby we get a player/s who have no real commitment to the club. Ok getting the amount we have is good for the club but if the money does not stave off relegation then for me it was a bad deal. I am still waiting to see progress in the 5 year plan. As yet I have witnessed nothing, no progress or desire to make a squad of players capable of transfixing HTFC mid to higher in this division. At the moment I see relegation stamped all over our club. Sorry but that is how I see it. In a few weeks time we shall be getting "Robins Out" threads. If going from escaping relegation in the final ten minutes, to being safe in March is not progress, may I enquire what is? Didnt we do that the season before? Just missed out on relegation two seasons running, third time lucky?
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Post by v8bart on Aug 5, 2014 16:07:13 GMT 1
Gutted he has gone, I was looking forward to us building a squad round him this season.
If he wanted out, then ok but that is the only acceptable reason for letting our best player go.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 16:08:29 GMT 1
If going from escaping relegation in the final ten minutes, to being safe in March is not progress, may I enquire what is? Didnt we do that the season before? Just missed out on relegation two seasons running, third time lucky? Just missed out on relegation? We were safe in March!
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 5, 2014 16:09:23 GMT 1
That'll be Blackburn, Bradford, Crystal Palace and now Middlesborough all shafted by Mr Dean Hoyle esq!
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Post by Lard Buttie on Aug 5, 2014 16:11:30 GMT 1
Looks like boro have agreed terms with town 1.5m rising to 2m Any player exchange included as well?? can't be arsed trawling through the remaining pages so apols if its already mentioned
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