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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 15:21:24 GMT 1
DATM is a forum that causes the problems that Dean Hoyle has mentioned in his interview today. It is full of wannabe's who sit behind a computer and have an opinion because when they try to voice it in public no one cares. I am not in total agreement of what Mr Hoyle said today but these forums give the little keyboard warriors a voice which nobody needs and it translate in the stands. Half of you are up Dean Hoyle's arse and constantly looking for his approval the other half bitch and moan, before today I would have said that Dean is better than reading this rubbish but obviously he does read it and it affects him. He runs the club properly from a financial point of view but his manager appointments have been woeful and it needs to improve end of. We all support HTAFC through the bad and the good and I can assure you this is not the bad times. I was there on Saturday and booing the team/manager is not the way to go. Lets remember the numerous years in League One and the awful time in League Two. Good luck to the keyboard warriors, your the people who have an opinion sat in your seat but everyone looks at you knowing you dont have a clue so you look to DATM for reassurance. That's that then, everybody out. Pick up yer laptops, phones, tablets and take em out tert bins. Cool yer jets man. Football is an opinion based industry, debated around the world every second, every minute, every hour, every day. This ain't no fascist regime we live in. Some people |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Aug 13, 2014 17:20:29 GMT 1
Thought this was going to be about too many repeat threads. Seriously though, there's very little moderation goes on here and by very little I mean virtually zero. This has its plus points and its minuses. It's been covered a million times. Football teams everywhere attract folk of all different levels of intelligence with all different viewpoints and we are no different. If the players and management take everything that is typed on the internet to heart and allow it to affect their job then I suggest they show more fortitude than that. The best thing to do if you don't like DATM is don't read the bloody thing, fans and footballers alike. Folk moan and moan about it but they still read it. I can never understand that. Agree with most if that, but you're not telling me you don't get infuriated by some of it. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 13, 2014 17:52:44 GMT 1
twatter and faecesbook.. the home of cyber bullying/insults and meaningless piffle. whats 'trending' today, some arse doing something daft for no apparent reason in a street somewhere.. those that are getting knocked over or injuring themselves whilst fiddling with their phone appears to be a new form of 'natural selection'.. Twatter is great fun and a great service for all sorts of things. My company tweets out all its job vacancies to those who are connected with our speciality for example. Its hugely popular in the science community for keeping abreast of what's going on in various areas. Its got a huge number of sensible uses. Also a lot of knobs use it - but you can say the same for most forms of communication! |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 13, 2014 17:54:15 GMT 1
I've said we really need to back Dean now, but I think if he head the interview back he will regret or wish he'd said things differently. The way the fans back the next manager will determine his next steps......... the negativity surrounding the manager at the game upset him.........us on here after our dire run last season it would appear perfectly entitled to question if Robins should still lead us.......Robins on the phone even said he should have gone last season! This is the man who's paid handsomely by the club having the same opinion! I'm baffled as to why he would be upset by criticism and negativity to Robins, the bloke achieved very little in the way of moving the club forward, the football was boring, his record in the transfer market dubious to say the least, unable to see that the team weren't playing to their strengths and persisting with tactics that were limp and lifeless. Even some of the most vehemently pro Robins fans must have been questioning the bloke after Saturday. |
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Post by kautostar1 on Aug 13, 2014 18:00:31 GMT 1
I've said we really need to back Dean now, but I think if he head the interview back he will regret or wish he'd said things differently. The way the fans back the next manager will determine his next steps......... the negativity surrounding the manager at the game upset him.........us on here after our dire run last season it would appear perfectly entitled to question if Robins should still lead us.......Robins on the phone even said he should have gone last season! This is the man who's paid handsomely by the club having the same opinion! I'm baffled as to why he would be upset by criticism and negativity to Robins, the bloke achieved very little in the way of moving the club forward, the football was boring, his record in the transfer market dubious to say the least, unable to see that the team weren't playing to their strengths and persisting with tactics that were limp and lifeless. Even some of the most vehemently pro Robins fans must have been questioning the bloke after Saturday. Of course it would affect Hoyle. He appointed him and worked closely with him. It would hurt him every bit as much as Robins. if you'd been in that situation you'd not be saying what you are. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 13, 2014 18:04:36 GMT 1
I'm baffled as to why he would be upset by criticism and negativity to Robins, the bloke achieved very little in the way of moving the club forward, the football was boring, his record in the transfer market dubious to say the least, unable to see that the team weren't playing to their strengths and persisting with tactics that were limp and lifeless. Even some of the most vehemently pro Robins fans must have been questioning the bloke after Saturday. Of course it would affect Hoyle. He appointed him and worked closely with him. It would hurt him every bit as much as Robins. if you'd been in that situation you'd not be saying what you are. What I'm saying is the criticism of Robins was justified, so Hoyle is saying it wasn't then I assume? |
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Post by kautostar1 on Aug 13, 2014 18:06:37 GMT 1
Of course it would affect Hoyle. He appointed him and worked closely with him. It would hurt him every bit as much as Robins. if you'd been in that situation you'd not be saying what you are. What I'm saying is the criticism of Robins was justified, so Hoyle is saying it wasn't then I assume? Not sure mate, just saying that if you appoint someone and learn to like and respect them, any criticism of that person will affect you. Human nature. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 13, 2014 18:15:13 GMT 1
What I'm saying is the criticism of Robins was justified, so Hoyle is saying it wasn't then I assume? Not sure mate, just saying that if you appoint someone and learn to like and respect them, any criticism of that person will affect you. Human nature. On a human level, yes, I agree it must be hard to take but I think a lot of the professional criticism aimed at Robins has been justified. |
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Post by kautostar1 on Aug 13, 2014 18:16:28 GMT 1
Totally get that. But it's still hard to take when you are the individual concerned.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 13, 2014 18:18:23 GMT 1
Totally get that. But it's still hard to take when you are the individual concerned. Yes, again I agree, no one likes having to take criticism, constructive or not. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 19:03:47 GMT 1
What I'm saying is the criticism of Robins was justified, so Hoyle is saying it wasn't then I assume? Not sure mate, just saying that if you appoint someone and learn to like and respect them, any criticism of that person will affect you. Human nature. I feel Hoyle is upset that the man he employed and trusted has let him down. DH is a businessman and I'm pretty sure fell out with a lot of folk over the years of creating his card empire. It'll blow over IF he makes damn sure he's got the right man this time |
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Post by JG Mellor on Aug 13, 2014 20:41:32 GMT 1
I have to agree with the OP. As a regular viewer, rather than poster, I have to say there is a hell of a lot of negativity on this site win, lose or draw. And that negativity seems to feed on itself and eventually becomes vitriolic. And I think it's a problem with all public forums in general and people who use forums. People who are discontent are more likely to join a forum or a movement of some kind. If you're generally happy with your lot you won't bother protesting or getting involved in a forum. So what you have is discontent over represented on sites like this. Don't get me wrong, we're all pissed off at the moment with the situation. But I and many of my friends who are Town fans won't stoop to making things worse by undermining the club we love. I keep on reading that all forums are the same, well if they are they're all as bad as each other that's all. In my humble opinion, more positivity on the forum and on the terraces can only be good for the club.
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Post by buzz on Aug 13, 2014 20:54:14 GMT 1
Do you really believe that Dean or the board give a flying f..k what people say on here!?....Get over your selves!!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 13, 2014 20:55:48 GMT 1
Do you really believe that Dean or the board give a flying f..k what people say on here!?....Get over your selves!! You've obviously been living on planet zog for the past 24 hours |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 13, 2014 20:57:40 GMT 1
Totally get that. But it's still hard to take when you are the individual concerned. Yes, again I agree, no one likes having to take criticism, constructive or not. Youre an idiot  |
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Post by buzz on Aug 13, 2014 20:58:50 GMT 1
Well if he lets a football forum get to him its time to pack up!!........Good man!!!.....good business man!!..great town fan but can't run the playing side of a football club to save his life!!!!He needs serious help with that!
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Post by JG Mellor on Aug 13, 2014 21:00:41 GMT 1
Of course they do - Lower North Stand ring any bells fella. Social media is massive with those 'in charge'. They float things on sites like this and see how popular/unpopular it is. Government do it all the time....
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 13, 2014 21:02:42 GMT 1
Well if he lets a football forum get to him its time to pack up!!........Good man!!!.....good business man!!..great town fan but can't run the playing side of a football club to save his life!!!!He needs serious help with that! Still waiting for megson, or was it billy davies, or both? stupid WUM idiot |
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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 13, 2014 21:04:19 GMT 1
Well if he lets a football forum get to him its time to pack up!!........Good man!!!.....good business man!!..great town fan but can't run the playing side of a football club to save his life!!!!He needs serious help with that! Play-off semi, play-off final and a promotion in 5 years. I'll take that. |
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Post by buzz on Aug 13, 2014 21:05:19 GMT 1
Are football forums serious tho!?...........I hope not!....for me this is 50% my opinion and 50% having a bit of football banter.........If they really do use this to test the water of opinion then they are seriousy deluded!
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Post by buzz on Aug 13, 2014 21:09:24 GMT 1
Big man Ted with his pethetic insults!!! Oooh your so hard!! And by the way, Megson would do a great job here!......he wouldn't put up with over paid footballers swanning around the pitch doing f..k all like its been for the last six months!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 13, 2014 21:17:25 GMT 1
Big man Ted with his pethetic insults!!! Oooh your so hard!! And by the way, Megson would do a great job here!......he wouldn't put up with over paid footballers swanning around the pitch doing f..k all like its been for the last six months! Billy Davies is now in the building Aug 10, 2014 at 9:56pm Saw em wi mi own eyes! Post by buzz on Apr 26, 2013 at 10:39pm This......get over it! Wednesday had 38,000 for the last match of the season last year!! when town are getting any where near that then critisise Wednesday all you want Post by buzz on Feb 2, 2013 at 9:17pm Megson signs!!!!!! Announces Mon am ITK |
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Post by buzz on Aug 13, 2014 21:21:23 GMT 1
Quite the private Dick eh!!..........and your point is!??
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 13, 2014 21:22:27 GMT 1
Quite the private Dick eh!!..........and your point is!?? My point is. Fuck off back to Hillsborough you bore |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 13, 2014 21:22:43 GMT 1
I've said we really need to back Dean now, but I think if he head the interview back he will regret or wish he'd said things differently. The way the fans back the next manager will determine his next steps......... the negativity surrounding the manager at the game upset him.........us on here after our dire run last season it would appear perfectly entitled to question if Robins should still lead us.......Robins on the phone even said he should have gone last season! This is the man who's paid handsomely by the club having the same opinion! I'm baffled as to why he would be upset by criticism and negativity to Robins, the bloke achieved very little in the way of moving the club forward, the football was boring, his record in the transfer market dubious to say the least, unable to see that the team weren't playing to their strengths and persisting with tactics that were limp and lifeless. Even some of the most vehemently pro Robins fans must have been questioning the bloke after Saturday. I must admit, Robins had my backing until Saturday, but I must admit I was thinking it's time to go after that. Given time he *might* have turned it around, but at the same time he might not have & to be honest the latter seemed more likely. On balance, right decision to move on (& whatever anybody thinks of him as a manager, as a man you've got to give him credit for falling on his sword). I think some of the criticism probably affects Deano more than it should, because he is a fan. He's putting his heart & soul into something he genuinely cares about - he's made a definite improvement & some of the negativity IS *way* ott. TBH, I wonder if the worst stuff is over twitter. Some of the crap that Nigel Clibbens gets in particular is just daft. Oversensitive? Perhaps, but then there is at least one person on here that posted TODAY saying that we haven't improved since Stan Ternent was here. After everything he's done for the club, on the pitch, behind the scenes and in the community, making sure that the club were open & honest with the fans - it must grate to find people (even if it is a minority!) spouting so much negativity. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 13, 2014 21:26:45 GMT 1
Big man Ted with his pethetic insults!!! Oooh your so hard!! And by the way, Megson would do a great job here!......he wouldn't put up with over paid footballers swanning around the pitch doing f..k all like its been for the last six months! Homo-erotic. |
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Post by buzz on Aug 13, 2014 21:38:39 GMT 1
Not that good a private Dick then Ted!.......Just a Dick!...You opitomise little club syndrome!.....any one who has a football opinion that is not always Town related just has to support another club!!!Lived in Huddersfield 48 years...........Dont no why tho listening to people like you!, Sheffield is a better place than Huddersfield in every way!.......One thing is right about this thread......Town Fans don't deserve Dean Hoyle.......he has presided over a very successful period in Towns recent history!!! Wouldn,t think so reading some of the stuff on here tho!....Hope you reply cos i am so enjoying winding you up!!. its too easy!
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Post by thrice on Aug 13, 2014 21:39:16 GMT 1
I don't think that the perceived negativity & criticism would have got to him half as quickly had he not lost his team in the summer.
We just need to learn, appoint the next man & move on.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 13, 2014 21:42:33 GMT 1
I'm baffled as to why he would be upset by criticism and negativity to Robins, the bloke achieved very little in the way of moving the club forward, the football was boring, his record in the transfer market dubious to say the least, unable to see that the team weren't playing to their strengths and persisting with tactics that were limp and lifeless. Even some of the most vehemently pro Robins fans must have been questioning the bloke after Saturday. I must admit, Robins had my backing until Saturday, but I must admit I was thinking it's time to go after that. Given time he *might* have turned it around, but at the same time he might not have & to be honest the latter seemed more likely. On balance, right decision to move on (& whatever anybody thinks of him as a manager, as a man you've got to give him credit for falling on his sword). I think some of the criticism probably affects Deano more than it should, because he is a fan. He's putting his heart & soul into something he genuinely cares about - he's made a definite improvement & some of the negativity IS *way* ott. TBH, I wonder if the worst stuff is over twitter. Some of the crap that Nigel Clibbens gets in particular is just daft. Oversensitive? Perhaps, but then there is at least one person on here that posted TODAY saying that we haven't improved since Stan Ternent was here. After everything he's done for the club, on the pitch, behind the scenes and in the community, making sure that the club were open & honest with the fans - it must grate to find people (even if it is a minority!) spouting so much negativity. To be fair, that is utter bollocks!! |
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Post by rantinray on Aug 13, 2014 21:47:49 GMT 1
Jesus, it's a football fans forum, where fans swap opinions, discuss games and what not have you, this is the fans domain, not the clubs. Like I said before, the club seem far far too interested in what the fans think and getting involved in dumb arguments on Twatter and Facebook than actually running the club. Spoton. If the club do not like what is written then dont read it. As for booing what are the disgruntled fans expected to do Mr Hoyle? Fans pay their hard earned money to support HTFC home and away. They travel the length and breadth of the UK to support the club they love. They expect, yes expect the players and the manager to pull their weight. Win, lose or draw the fan wishes to see their players put in some effort. If we wanted to watch a successful team we could go over the Pennines but we are Udders fans. So I say to those who do not like some of the threads posted dont log on. Every fan up and down the country has an opinion they may be shite but not all of them. Most of the fans on the DATM site could have selected a better team than the one put out on Saturday. Remember the team Mr Robins put out got battered. We have opinions we are not blindly going along with the company line/policy. |
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