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Post by birkbybloke on Aug 17, 2014 17:53:14 GMT 1
Danny Drinkwater - The Sequel. He'll make it elsewhere.
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Guthlac
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Norwood
Aug 17, 2014 22:45:56 GMT 1
Post by Guthlac on Aug 17, 2014 22:45:56 GMT 1
Hope he never leaves, he is 100 times better than Clayton, always put a shift in, you always noticed him throwing his weight around, strong tackler, scored almost every game, never went missing, he is worth £10 million, oh please don't buy him Reading. PS I am completely mad.
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Post by ajsfad on Aug 17, 2014 23:12:09 GMT 1
I'd be inclined to let the new manager run the rule over any selling of Norwood. The new man in might like him or want players of his quality in the squad and feel they can get the best out of him more consistently. On his day he's a class above the rest of the squad, granted we don't see it enough but give the new man a chance to see if he can rectify that
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 23:16:11 GMT 1
Maybe the new manager can get the best out of him?
The potential is there but like many previous town players they promise so much and deliver so little.
I would sell him and use the funds to fill the positions we are crying out for.
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Post by ajsfad on Aug 17, 2014 23:23:20 GMT 1
Maybe the new manager can get the best out of him? The potential is there but like many previous town players they promise so much and deliver so little. I would sell him and use the funds to fill the positions we are crying out for. I'm not saying no to selling him, he is frustrating, just hold on till the new man is in. No point selling players or signing players if you don't know what the new man in thinks of them first and what pieces he think fit in to the puzzle.
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 18, 2014 0:06:20 GMT 1
Pretty sure man utd have a massive sell on, something like 40% of any profit, so it won't be the earner it sounds. hes frustrating but we have other players id rather see leave. The lad does have talent- maybe the next boss will get it out of him more often.
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Post by ACW on Aug 18, 2014 0:09:16 GMT 1
Rumours that Reading have made a £1.25 mill bid for him, may explain why he wasn't involved yesterday. Thoughts? If this is true, Town should bite their hand off! And most of their arm as well.
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Post by ACW on Aug 18, 2014 0:23:09 GMT 1
Danny Drinkwater - The Sequel. He'll make it elsewhere. He may well do so - particularly at a team where others do the dirty work for him - but he's now in his third season with us and he's never found any consistency. Nobody doubts his technical ability, but for every screamer he's scored for us he's given away a goal with a sloppy pass in midfield (usually a simple one). I don't know why he's so inconsistent, but he simply does not affect games enough for us. His ability suggests he could control the midfield, but he goes missing too much, and is too sloppy with his simple passing. Last season I noticed him mainly when he was holding up a hand to apologise for yet another misplaced pass. I agree with others who say its strange we are buying/selling players without a manager in place, and I suppose there is a chance that the new manager would be able to get more out of him, but the evidence suggests not. £1 million+ for Norwood is too good an offer to turn down, particularly when we desperately need a CF and a CB.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 0:30:58 GMT 1
I think we are still one in when we get one out. Norwood and Scannell could turn into a centre back/defender and a striker. I think business will be done before the window closes or we could lose out. Probably the reason we had to wait for Butterfield until Clayton signed for Middlesbrough.
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Post by melbourneterrier on Aug 18, 2014 1:27:54 GMT 1
Gladly sell Norwood for over a mill, and bring in either a CB or a target man to help Wells as many have mentioned.
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Post by ritchie on Aug 18, 2014 1:45:54 GMT 1
Pretty sure man utd have a massive sell on, something like 40% of any profit, so it won't be the earner it sounds. hes frustrating but we have other players id rather see leave. The lad does have talent- maybe the next boss will get it out of him more often. Say we got £1.25+ though id guess we paid 350k for him, which would mean we still pocketed 900k. If we could up it so we got a 1m+ after paying utd i think it would be good business for a player with 1year left. Problem is, we keep him and he has a good season, he'll sign for someone else on a free...keep him and he has a bad season, we get nowt. Im not usually for selling our 'better' players but i feel with butterfield + coady as first choice we've already improved on norwood + clayton...so any extra money we can raise to spend on strengthening the rest of the team would see us better off
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Post by Solid Snake on Aug 18, 2014 2:37:16 GMT 1
For me, Norwood's game against chesterfield sums him up completely. Gave away possession, with a ridiculous pass and we concede 5 seconds later. On the other hand, gets into play, does some work and crosses a ball for Nahki to get his head on and we score. Last season he scored a couple of absolute belting goals against Bolton and Burnley but unfortunately he is inconsistent and gives away our play too easily and tends to switch off at times. I would like to see him as part of our squad this season but he'll have to fight for his place.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 8:56:16 GMT 1
has he gone yet?
seriously sell him and get a couple of big strong center backs because we are soft as shit at the back.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 18, 2014 9:05:48 GMT 1
Pretty sure man utd have a massive sell on, something like 40% of any profit, so it won't be the earner it sounds. hes frustrating but we have other players id rather see leave. The lad does have talent- maybe the next boss will get it out of him more often. Say we got £1.25+ though id guess we paid 350k for him, which would mean we still pocketed 900k. If we could up it so we got a 1m+ after paying utd i think it would be good business for a player with 1year left. Problem is, we keep him and he has a good season, he'll sign for someone else on a free...keep him and he has a bad season, we get nowt. Im not usually for selling our 'better' players but i feel with butterfield + coady as first choice we've already improved on norwood + clayton...so any extra money we can raise to spend on strengthening the rest of the team would see us better off So do you think Norwoods " stock" has raised 900k in two years with us ? Maybe I'm way off the mark but I seriously don't think we are talking a seven figure transfer fee here
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 18, 2014 9:38:48 GMT 1
that 'argument' over norwood is moot..
we need a centre back and another striker, we have an abundance of midfield players.
we cant offload gobern and maybe someone has made a good offer for Norwood.
simples...that's the situation we are in.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 9:48:07 GMT 1
Pretty sure man utd have a massive sell on, something like 40% of any profit, so it won't be the earner it sounds. hes frustrating but we have other players id rather see leave. The lad does have talent- maybe the next boss will get it out of him more often. I AGREE HE DOES HAVE TALENT BUT LACKS ANY CONSISTENSY. But we had that with Arfield he went and the lad has never looked back.its a touch one but we need more quality in other areas so lets see what happens
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Aug 18, 2014 10:49:39 GMT 1
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Post by diceman on Aug 18, 2014 10:49:39 GMT 1
This might make some sense of why we signed 3 midfield players when we desperately needed a striker and 2 X CB's. If Peltier was supposed to be Peter Clarke's replacement, we made a balls up of that one. I don't think pelts is a replacement for Clarke. I think he has been playing cb because Gerrard is injured Lynch hasn't played well and Wallace needs a more experienced head at his side to give him some direction. As he is still young but looking better. With another cb in we have 4 x cb 2 x lb and 2 x rb. As for Norwood I must be on my own in that I would rather keep him. Most seem ready to admit there is a player in there but I would admit he hasn't shown it often enough. However this season would be his first season where he has genuine competition for his place. If he's not playing for us that puts his international place under pressure. People need pressure to drive them. It makes it all mean more. I don't think Norwood is lazy, more complacent if anything. we've signed some new midfielder's but we can still pick up a couple of injuries and all of a sudden we look weak. From a financial view I can understand the risk in keeping him. But we aren't on the verge of administration. In the end keeping him could make us more.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 11:09:25 GMT 1
It hasn't worked out and we don't have a steely enough midfield to accommodate him. A bit like a Lee Makel figure. He needed a tough man to allow him to play. At the minute we don't have a midfield enforcer so we can't have a flair player we can carry in a 4 man midfield. If we play a 5 then Wells as a lone frontman doesn't work.
I'd be glad to see him go. It's not about players, it's about building a team. Horrible cliche but Norwood is a luxury we can't carry right now.
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Aug 18, 2014 11:18:04 GMT 1
Post by rocky on Aug 18, 2014 11:18:04 GMT 1
that 'argument' over norwood is moot.. we need a centre back and another striker, we have an abundance of midfield players.
we cant offload gobern and maybe someone has made a good offer for Norwood.simples...that's the situation we are in. galpharm2400 official bullshitter for the no news-network and Beauty Correspondent for the NRA Monthly.. That's the crux of it for me. Ideally I wouldn't want Norwood to go. I think he's got lots of ability, but for a number of reasons, we're not seeing the best of him at Town. 2 games in though & it's blindingly obvious where the problems lie & so, if Reading (or anyone else) will pay that sort of money, then we simply have to sell & spend the money on the defence & forward line.
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Norwood
Aug 18, 2014 11:43:11 GMT 1
Post by keggi on Aug 18, 2014 11:43:11 GMT 1
BREAKING: Norwich City are closing in on a £1.5m deal for Huddersfield midfielder Oliver Norwood. #ncfc #htafc
From twitter just now on FL72 transfers site.
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Post by deadleg on Aug 18, 2014 11:47:33 GMT 1
I can't see much logic in keeping him at all. If he has another poor season we'll probably let him go at the end of the season and get nothing, if he suddenly comes good he'll probably move on to bigger things - again for nothing. Plus if he goes now it frees up wages and some transfer funds for areas where we're more in need.
I'd have Billing ahead of him in the pecking order now in any case, he's had plenty of chances.
If we get anything over a million it's an even better deal than the fantastic one that we got for Clayton, even with whatever clauses Man Utd have got in there.
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Aug 18, 2014 11:51:53 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 11:51:53 GMT 1
To be fair Man Utd need the money for a new defence as much as we do.
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Aug 18, 2014 11:53:16 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 11:53:16 GMT 1
BREAKING: Norwich City are closing in on a £1.5m deal for Huddersfield midfielder Oliver Norwood. #ncfc #htafc From twitter just now on FL72 transfers site. Superlopez has about as much credibility as them clowns.
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Aug 18, 2014 11:54:40 GMT 1
Post by rocky on Aug 18, 2014 11:54:40 GMT 1
Well, if clubs like Reading and Norwich really are in for him then he's clearly a better player than he's showed us whilst here.
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Aug 18, 2014 11:54:58 GMT 1
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Post by workshyfop on Aug 18, 2014 11:54:58 GMT 1
Seems too good to be true. He's obviously got some talent, but way too inconsistent and down the pecking order. Great price in the final year of his contract and considering his overall performances.
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Post by Tiro on Aug 18, 2014 12:56:27 GMT 1
Get it done.
Norwood and Clayton out, circa £3.5m. Coady, Butterfield and Majewski in, circa £1.15m. Represents a cracking bit of business in my eyes.
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Post by mids on Aug 18, 2014 13:19:17 GMT 1
Say we got £1.25+ though id guess we paid 350k for him, which would mean we still pocketed 900k. If we could up it so we got a 1m+ after paying utd i think it would be good business for a player with 1year left. Problem is, we keep him and he has a good season, he'll sign for someone else on a free...keep him and he has a bad season, we get nowt. Im not usually for selling our 'better' players but i feel with butterfield + coady as first choice we've already improved on norwood + clayton...so any extra money we can raise to spend on strengthening the rest of the team would see us better off So do you think Norwoods " stock" has raised 900k in two years with us ? Maybe I'm way off the mark but I seriously don't think we are talking a seven figure transfer fee here Only if we included the pence
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Norwood
Aug 18, 2014 13:25:50 GMT 1
Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 18, 2014 13:25:50 GMT 1
that 'argument' over norwood is moot.. we need a centre back and another striker, we have an abundance of midfield players.
we cant offload gobern and maybe someone has made a good offer for Norwood.simples...that's the situation we are in. galpharm2400 official bullshitter for the no news-network and Beauty Correspondent for the NRA Monthly.. That's the crux of it for me. Ideally I wouldn't want Norwood to go. I think he's got lots of ability, but for a number of reasons, we're not seeing the best of him at Town. 2 games in though & it's blindingly obvious where the problems lie & so, if Reading (or anyone else) will pay that sort of money, then we simply have to sell & spend the money on the defence & forward line. To be fair Rocky mate I can't argue with that but any new manager might want to keep him. I can understand the club trying to shift him on at this stage, less than a year left on his contract, Reading supposedly offering crazy money, uncertainty over form, so I can understand it. As long as the money was re-invested in the team, as what seems to be happening is that we seem to sell someone on, spend a small amount on the squad and where does the rest go, operational costs, I assume? Another issue I have is that we aren't building a squad with our current transfer policy, I understnad we need to strike a balance financially but Norwood goes, what midfield back up do we have Gobern? Holmes? Billing who has played one game? I would be ok with the deal through as long as the club did go out and buy two new centre backs and another striker. By the way Rocky I'm still awaiting my PM apologising that you questioned me over Robins, I was right all along....
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Post by swollentoe on Aug 18, 2014 13:33:29 GMT 1
Norwich offer 1.5 million for Oliver Norwood ? Anyone heard this
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Norwood
Aug 18, 2014 14:23:20 GMT 1
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 18, 2014 14:23:20 GMT 1
Norwich interested in Norwood, hopefully a bidding war between Reading and Norwich would be nice!
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