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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 10:50:29 GMT 1
So the Dean Hoyle thing is just him happening to be in a picture alongside the person quoted. The Andy Booth thing looks like a quote specifically obtained...I guess its his personal opinion from what he knows through having spent time with Jason. The photo being in the stadium implies its officially endorsed by HTFC though (although is likely just a pic taken whilst at some get together or other for Pedals4 or something...i mean, we've all got pictures of us with Boothy haven't we?!).
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Mar 20, 2015 10:58:25 GMT 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 20, 2015 11:09:58 GMT 1
why is the shortest one the goalie???
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 11:17:01 GMT 1
Why is it strange that Thatcher still gets the blame? She set many things in motion when in office that still have far reaching effects today & no doubt many of these will continue into the future. Folk are right when they say she transformed the UK but it's then divided opinion on whether it was for better or worse... Because Thatcher was decades ago and there have been multiple Labor governments since then so if everything she did was horrible why was it not reversed by the blessed Labor leaders? Of course those Labor leaders have nothing to do with anything going on today but someone who was voted out 20 odd years ago is to blame for everything. Wake up and smell the roses. The partisan shite is what keeps the population divided and allows this crap to go on. Same in the USA. There are people who blindly vote the same party every election because that is how their parents voted. Pay attention to what is going on, listen to both sides of an argument and make your own mind up. Then vote accordingly for who you think is the best person. Both the UK and the USA get the Governments they deserve. So just because things were done decades ago means we should forget?  A bad and a good example below of why we shouldn't forget the origins of things... The Nazis. The NHS. For clarity - I do listen & I do make my own mind up & I agree there are many that don't. I just try and work out what will have the best net effect across the short & longer terms and that will impact my kids future as well as mine, plus the more positive benefit to society in general. I don't see any long term benefit in moving towards a society where everything has to be paid for to privatised industries & shareholders. Where things have a lack of regulatory control that would see regular price hikes for consumers. All set against the fact we have nothing to make money from, other than the financial & services industries that try to make money and drive growth by what often are nothing more than gigantic confidence tricks... Labour are not perfect but they do tend to have more ethical folk amongst them than the Tories... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 11:20:56 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 11:31:18 GMT 1
Completely ignore the £40,000 spent in The Sunday times, £16,000 in the FT etc - Figures can be easily bent. Plus with advertising you try and appeal to your market. If the BBC are trying to flog Planet Earth DVD's they're more likely to sell them to those who are more interested in the planet - thus a more liberal paper like the Guardian (which also has an exceptional online presence). |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 20, 2015 11:34:02 GMT 1
when they have the first tory audience on Question Time, its time to run for the hills..
my only question is;
do I vote for the party that gives already well off people money or do I vote for a party that will give more money to those who never turn a hair to earn any of it??
its a difficult nay impossible choice..
if we had a party that was going to outlaw all religion and provide work for everyone, wether they wanted it or not, I might get enthused a bit..
I guess the people with the real power don't ever require a vote.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 11:37:03 GMT 1
Personally this is yet another own goal by Hoyle et al. Football and the football club should bring everyone together, whether their race, religion or political stand point.
The football club fans represents more than one party, religious views etc. Backing one potential political representative does the club a lot of harm in the role of impartiality.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 11:38:40 GMT 1
Completely ignore the £40,000 spent in The Sunday times, £16,000 in the FT etc - Figures can be easily bent. Plus with advertising you try and appeal to your market. If the BBC are trying to flog Planet Earth DVD's they're more likely to sell them to those who are more interested in the planet - thus a more liberal paper like the Guardian (which also has an exceptional online presence). This is recruitment spending only and is nothing to do with selling Planet Earth DVD's. By far the most goes to The Guardian for a reason. Why do you think that is? Could it be that a left wing biased organisation wants to keep it's left wing bias maybe? It should be impartial, as everyone has to pay for it, left or right wing. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 11:41:41 GMT 1
Personally this is yet another own goal by Hoyle et al. Football and the football club should bring everyone together, whether their race, religion or political stand point. The football club fans represents more than one party, religious views etc. Backing one potential political representative does the club a lot of harm in the role of impartiality. As do the viewers and funders of the BBC, but it's OK for them to have a political bias. Why shouldn't Dean Hoyle vote Tory? More people voted Tory than any other party in the last election. It's time to remove those red tinted specs, not everyone is left wing/liberal. There are some who have a different political view to you, it's quite normal. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 11:43:54 GMT 1
Completely ignore the £40,000 spent in The Sunday times, £16,000 in the FT etc - Figures can be easily bent. Plus with advertising you try and appeal to your market. If the BBC are trying to flog Planet Earth DVD's they're more likely to sell them to those who are more interested in the planet - thus a more liberal paper like the Guardian (which also has an exceptional online presence). This is recruitment spending only and is nothing to do with selling Planet Earth DVD's. By far the most goes to The Guardian for a reason. Why do you think that is? Could it be that a left wing biased organisation wants to keep it's left wing bias maybe? It should be impartial, as everyone has to pay for it, left or right wing. Well then if it's recruitment you're pissing all over your bonfire. This is for jobs and the guardian's jobs pages are some of the best and are largely media based. Any media graduate (myself included) is told to get the guardian, broadcast magazine and the Sunday Times. As well as checking online. They're not recruiting left-wing people. They are putting their ads out for jobs in the most widely read and respected outlets. Much a do about nothing. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 20, 2015 11:51:10 GMT 1
Personally this is yet another own goal by Hoyle et al. Football and the football club should bring everyone together, whether their race, religion or political stand point. The football club fans represents more than one party, religious views etc. Backing one potential political representative does the club a lot of harm in the role of impartiality. As do the viewers and funders of the BBC, but it's OK for them to have a political bias. Why shouldn't Dean Hoyle vote Tory? More people voted Tory than any other party in the last election. It's time to remove those red tinted specs, not everyone is left wing/liberal. There are some who have a different political view to you, it's quite normal. Id expect Dean to vote Tory- nothing wrong in that at all. I can't see any issue at all with him or Boothy personally endorsing a political party, but if they do it in a way that 'the club' also seem to be endorsing one, then that seems a bit wrong to me. just think its something they should try and avoid. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 12:03:30 GMT 1
Personally this is yet another own goal by Hoyle et al. Football and the football club should bring everyone together, whether their race, religion or political stand point. The football club fans represents more than one party, religious views etc. Backing one potential political representative does the club a lot of harm in the role of impartiality. As do the viewers and funders of the BBC, but it's OK for them to have a political bias. Why shouldn't Dean Hoyle vote Tory? More people voted Tory than any other party in the last election. It's time to remove those red tinted specs, not everyone is left wing/liberal. There are some who have a different political view to you, it's quite normal. The BBC does not have political bias... Only those at opposite ends of the political spectrum say as much! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 12:09:24 GMT 1
This is recruitment spending only and is nothing to do with selling Planet Earth DVD's. By far the most goes to The Guardian for a reason. Why do you think that is? Could it be that a left wing biased organisation wants to keep it's left wing bias maybe? It should be impartial, as everyone has to pay for it, left or right wing. Well then if it's recruitment you're pissing all over your bonfire. This is for jobs and the guardian's jobs pages are some of the best and are largely media based. Any media graduate (myself included) is told to get the guardian, broadcast magazine and the Sunday Times. As well as checking online. They're not recruiting left-wing people. They are putting their ads out for jobs in the most widely read and respected outlets. Much a do about nothing. That's an interesting take on it. So you're not left wing then? You just buy the left wing Gaurdian because of it's jobs section, which the left wing BBC choose to recruit it's left wing media students from? Are you really trying to pretend the BBC has no political bias?  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 12:14:25 GMT 1
As do the viewers and funders of the BBC, but it's OK for them to have a political bias. Why shouldn't Dean Hoyle vote Tory? More people voted Tory than any other party in the last election. It's time to remove those red tinted specs, not everyone is left wing/liberal. There are some who have a different political view to you, it's quite normal.
Only those at opposite ends of the political spectrum say as much! There are plenty of BBC employees who say it does... biasedbbc.org/quotes-of-shame/ |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 12:15:48 GMT 1
I reckon this will be a 20 pager.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Mar 20, 2015 12:19:40 GMT 1
Well then if it's recruitment you're pissing all over your bonfire. This is for jobs and the guardian's jobs pages are some of the best and are largely media based. Any media graduate (myself included) is told to get the guardian, broadcast magazine and the Sunday Times. As well as checking online. They're not recruiting left-wing people. They are putting their ads out for jobs in the most widely read and respected outlets. Much a do about nothing. That's an interesting take on it. So you're not left wing then? You just buy the left wing Gaurdian because of it's jobs section, which the left wing BBC choose to recruit it's left wing media students from? Are you really trying to pretend the BBC has no political bias? News organisations should deal in facts. It's pretty well known that facts have a liberal bias. That's where the biased BBC nonsense comes from. In this country we have laws about fairness in news reporting which is why Sky News hasn't turned in to a lying Fox clone |
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Post by araucaria on Mar 20, 2015 12:27:59 GMT 1
David Mitchell wrote in his book 'Thinking About It Only Makes It Worse' that (I paraphrase) we all know in our heart of hearts that we have to be ruled by posh people. Of those in the photograph, I would choose numbers 2 and 8 for the task, but see how they all have a tremendous air of entitlement. |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Mar 20, 2015 12:29:06 GMT 1
What's Mr shearman done for huddersfield? Sweet fa yet people will vote cos he's labour and they think they are working class Saw a job advert the other day saying polish speaking warehouse staff wanted in leeds ........cheers labour!!! And to blame that advertisement on the Labour party shows the blinkered thinking behind your post  Who took the UK into Europe? |
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Mar 20, 2015 12:32:02 GMT 1
"They all piss ion the same pot" .....its the puppet masters that control everything it doesn't matter who 'gets in' they cant bring the real change that is needed
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Post by wtd on Mar 20, 2015 12:44:34 GMT 1
So the Dean Hoyle thing is just him happening to be in a picture alongside the person quoted. The Andy Booth thing looks like a quote specifically obtained...I guess its his personal opinion from what he knows through having spent time with Jason. The photo being in the stadium implies its officially endorsed by HTFC though (although is likely just a pic taken whilst at some get together or other for Pedals4 or something...i mean, we've all got pictures of us with Boothy haven't we?!).
Unless he's specifically asked Dean Hoyle's permission to use his picture and a picture of Andy Booth at The Galpharm in a Town training top, then it is disingenuous of the politician as it implies HTFC supports his party. If he DID obtain their permission... well, more fool them IMO. Dean Hoyle and Andy Booth can endorse any party they like (not wearing an HTFC  ). HTFC though, shouldn't be aligned to ANY party. But if they are ( and it's a big IF)... well there's a season card losing move if ever I saw one. For what it's worth, I think it's more a question of the politician trying to imply something. Naughty! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 12:46:38 GMT 1
What's Mr shearman done for huddersfield? Sweet fa yet people will vote cos he's labour and they think they are working class Saw a job advert the other day saying polish speaking warehouse staff wanted in leeds ........cheers labour!!! And to blame that advertisement on the Labour party shows the blinkered thinking behind your post Who took the UK into Europe?Eh? Even Labour themselves admit they screwed up with their "open doors immigration policy" Did you miss that bit? |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 20, 2015 12:53:09 GMT 1
What's Mr shearman done for huddersfield? Sweet fa yet people will vote cos he's labour and they think they are working class Saw a job advert the other day saying polish speaking warehouse staff wanted in leeds ........cheers labour!!! And to blame that advertisement on the Labour party shows the blinkered thinking behind your post Who took the UK into Europe?Theres a world of difference between entering a trading pact called the common market in the early 70s and what we have now, which is basically being governed by a federal european parliament we can neither elect or un-elect. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 20, 2015 12:56:55 GMT 1
So the Dean Hoyle thing is just him happening to be in a picture alongside the person quoted. The Andy Booth thing looks like a quote specifically obtained...I guess its his personal opinion from what he knows through having spent time with Jason. The photo being in the stadium implies its officially endorsed by HTFC though (although is likely just a pic taken whilst at some get together or other for Pedals4 or something...i mean, we've all got pictures of us with Boothy haven't we?!).
Unless he's specifically asked Dean Hoyle's permission to use his picture and a picture of Andy Booth at The Galpharm in a Town training top, then it is disingenuous of the politician as it implies HTFC supports his party. If he DID obtain their permission... well, more fool them IMO. Dean Hoyle and Andy Booth can endorse any party they like (not wearing an HTFC ). HTFC though, shouldn't be aligned to ANY party. But if they are ( and it's a big IF)... well there's a season card losing move if ever I saw one. For what it's worth, I think it's more a question of the politician trying to imply something. Naughty! I agree with your comment except the bold bit. Theres been some pretty lame and tenuous excuses on DATM lately for not renewing your season card, but some perceived support of a local politician has to be the lamest. I vote tory, but if the club were aligned with labour, the idea Id stop supporting the club as a result is frankly laughable. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 13:05:11 GMT 1
When you think about it, Town do a pretty good job spreading the love for most of the most popular political parties. We have blue in the home strip, red in the away strip and even a yellow third strip to keep the Libdem's happy.
Luckily the greens and purples aren't included too.
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Post by Sio on Mar 20, 2015 13:05:15 GMT 1
Well then if it's recruitment you're pissing all over your bonfire. This is for jobs and the guardian's jobs pages are some of the best and are largely media based. Any media graduate (myself included) is told to get the guardian, broadcast magazine and the Sunday Times. As well as checking online. They're not recruiting left-wing people. They are putting their ads out for jobs in the most widely read and respected outlets. Much a do about nothing. That's an interesting take on it. So you're not left wing then? You just buy the left wing Gaurdian because of it's jobs section, which the left wing BBC choose to recruit it's left wing media students from? Are you really trying to pretend the BBC has no political bias? The BBC don't recruit through those methods. All jobs are via a careers hub which doesn't involve any sort of political selection. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 13:30:27 GMT 1
That's an interesting take on it. So you're not left wing then? You just buy the left wing Gaurdian because of it's jobs section, which the left wing BBC choose to recruit it's left wing media students from? Are you really trying to pretend the BBC has no political bias? The BBC don't recruit through those methods. All jobs are via a careers hub which doesn't involve any sort of political selection. So their recruitment group, on the instruction of the BBC, just choose to spend the vast majority of their recruitment advertising in the left wing media then? If you target your audience, you are selectively trying to recruit people from that particular audience. In this case a devout left wing media source. Have a look down this list and see if you can find one obvious publication which stands out with a vastly higher spend... I'll make it easier, by highlighting the ONLY one where spending is in 5 figure sums, in fact it's almost into 6 figures. www.asiansinmedia.org £3,300.00 www.bapla.org.uk £100.00 www.bluelinecareer.co.uk £150.00 www.careerbuilder.co.uk £239.00 www.creativematch.co.uk £299.00 www.designweek.co.uk £1,485.00 www.executive-i.com £50.00 www.guardian.co.uk £94,360.00www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk £2,250.00 www.internalcommsjobs.co.uk £1,300.00 www.jobs-cymraeg.co.uk £50.00 www.jobswales.co.uk £3,000.00 www.nijobs.com £1,725.00 www.nmajobs.co.uk £850.00 www.parttimejobsnet.co.uk £500.00 www.prweekjobs.co.uk £5,250.00 www.research-live.com £2,950.00 www.safleswyddi.co.uk £175.00 www.secsinthecity.co.uk £6,625.00 www.supplychainonline.co.uk £2,350.00 www.thebci.org £50.00 www.theitjobboard.com £1,100.00 www.usabilitynews.co.uk £665.00 Y Cymro £784.80 Yorkshire Evening Post (Leeds) £3,900.00 |
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Post by Sio on Mar 20, 2015 13:33:28 GMT 1
The BBC don't recruit through those methods. All jobs are via a careers hub which doesn't involve any sort of political selection. So their recruitment group, on the instruction of the BBC, just choose to spend the vast majority of their recruitment advertising in the left wing media then? If you target your audience, you are selectively trying to recruit people from that particular audience. In this case a devout left wing media source. Have a look down this list and see if you can find one obvious publication which stands out with a vastly higher spend... I'll make it easier, by highlighting the ONLY one where spending is in 5 figure sums, in fact it's almost into 6 figures. www.asiansinmedia.org £3,300.00 www.bapla.org.uk £100.00 www.bluelinecareer.co.uk £150.00 www.careerbuilder.co.uk £239.00 www.creativematch.co.uk £299.00 www.designweek.co.uk £1,485.00 www.executive-i.com £50.00 www.guardian.co.uk £94,360.00 www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk £2,250.00 www.internalcommsjobs.co.uk £1,300.00 www.jobs-cymraeg.co.uk £50.00 www.jobswales.co.uk £3,000.00 www.nijobs.com £1,725.00 www.nmajobs.co.uk £850.00 www.parttimejobsnet.co.uk £500.00 www.prweekjobs.co.uk £5,250.00 www.research-live.com £2,950.00 www.safleswyddi.co.uk £175.00 www.secsinthecity.co.uk £6,625.00 www.supplychainonline.co.uk £2,350.00 www.thebci.org £50.00 www.theitjobboard.com £1,100.00 www.usabilitynews.co.uk £665.00 Y Cymro £784.80 Yorkshire Evening Post (Leeds) £3,900.00 Or maybe that's because it's by far the most circulated publication out of the options you've laid down? |
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Post by wtd on Mar 20, 2015 13:35:30 GMT 1
Unless he's specifically asked Dean Hoyle's permission to use his picture and a picture of Andy Booth at The Galpharm in a Town training top, then it is disingenuous of the politician as it implies HTFC supports his party. If he DID obtain their permission... well, more fool them IMO. Dean Hoyle and Andy Booth can endorse any party they like (not wearing an HTFC ). HTFC though, shouldn't be aligned to ANY party. But if they are ( and it's a big IF)... well there's a season card losing move if ever I saw one. For what it's worth, I think it's more a question of the politician trying to imply something. Naughty! I agree with your comment except the bold bit. Theres been some pretty lame and tenuous excuses on DATM lately for not renewing your season card, but some perceived support of a local politician has to be the lamest. I vote tory, but if the club were aligned with labour, the idea Id stop supporting the club as a result is frankly laughable. Laugh away, Captain! As you rightly say, there have been some 'lame and tenuous excuses' for not renewing season cards and, if folk won't do it simply because they might have to move seats for a couple of games a year, then I'm quite sure that if their football club, whoever that may be, were to align themselves to a political party directly opposed to their own core beliefs ( which I do NOT believe is happening in this instance!), then you would find SOME supporters who would be less inclined to dance to that football club's tune when asked to do so. This might not be your view but, as we know, not everyone always shares your views. Anyway, as you and I both know, this isn't happening, is it? This is just a cheap gimmick by a politician wanting votes. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 13:47:55 GMT 1
I agree with those that have said aligning the club with a party would be a foolish move. It would alienate some small minded folk regardless of which party they aligned themselves with.
I would be surprised if Hoyle knew that picture was being used in that manner, shocked if he gave permission as he is smarter than that.
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A bad and a good example below of why we shouldn't forget the origins of things...
). HTFC though, shouldn't be aligned to ANY party. But if they are ( and it's a big IF)... well there's a season card losing move if ever I saw one. 