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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 18:52:26 GMT 1
How ironic that the nation once traditionally known for not taking to football is the one who has had the balls to come in and sort it out. Good on the Americans, I say! Yes, but the Russkies are not happy about it. Putin interviewed today and complaining about meddling/interfering Yanks. There's war a-comin', Elmer!! Finally a nuclear war and all over a bag of wind getting kicked up and down a field Would be nice to see the World Cup taken away from Russia and Qatar when it is so obvious they were won through large back handers. Would like to think we'd have a good chance of taking one of them as we already have everything in place, no need to build more stadia. Or atleast somewhere easy to get to like Spain
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Post by gledholt terrier on May 28, 2015 19:35:20 GMT 1
Yes, but the Russkies are not happy about it. Putin interviewed today and complaining about meddling/interfering Yanks. There's war a-comin', Elmer!! Finally a nuclear war and all over a bag of wind getting kicked up and down a field Would be nice to see the World Cup taken away from Russia and Qatar when it is so obvious they were won through large back handers. Would like to think we'd have a good chance of taking one of them as we already have everything in place, no need to build more stadia. Or atleast somewhere easy to get to like Spain Football was the catalyst for one war nearly 50 years ago, so you never know.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 28, 2015 21:19:16 GMT 1
I cannot believe the arrogance of Blatter and FIFA, Platini asks Blatter to resign and he refuses, FIFA still press ahead with the presidential election fuck me...are they so arrogant, do they think they are bloody untouchable. The organisation needs disbanding as they are no longer fit for purpose.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 21:46:07 GMT 1
He's 79 and doesn't give a fuck.
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Post by stevvy on May 28, 2015 21:49:57 GMT 1
Part of me actually thinks the election going ahead tomorrow is a good thing, but only if Blatter loses. If he wins then it's not so good. Quite how he and FIFA can seemingly be so positive about the whole thing I have no idea, as whichever way they try to spin it, FIFA as a whole, and Blatter especially, has absolutely no credibility and they're basically damaged goods. Not sure how Blatter can basically say he's the guy to reform FIFA when all we hear about is corruption, bribery, etc. The whole organisation is corrupt.
I'd love to see the major nations tell FIFA where to shove it if Blatter gets elected again and go off and do their own thing. With all due respect to the smaller nations, a World Cup without Germany, Brazil, Spain, Argentina etc would basically be worthless.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 21:51:46 GMT 1
What pissed me off was him saying these events were a shadow over football.twat. Footballs fine the shadow is over Fifa
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 28, 2015 22:15:39 GMT 1
Just seen Blatter on the news, god this guy has just absolved himself of all the blame, greasy little turd. He is the president, the top man, all this has happened on his watch, he should go, now.
Platini is talking about about a World Cup boycott for UEFA members, I'd be fine with this, I'd like to see an extra European Championship, fuck FIFA.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 22:26:47 GMT 1
The sponsors will now have an equally strong hand in this. I wouldn't be surprised if there are closed door meetings happening right now suggesting that Blatter resigns & it's done in such a way that will allow him some totally undeserved easy way out. Or if not they'll pull their deals...
Going a step further and echoing comments above, UEFA and S. American teams pulling out of any future WC (or even just the real threat of it) would make the sponsorship deals totally unviable for these corporates. As much as global corporates are just as bad as FIFA in some respects this is one opportunity for them to bring about necessary change by maintaining their own self-interest...
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Post by Captainslapper on May 28, 2015 23:49:13 GMT 1
Just seen Blatter on the news, god this guy has just absolved himself of all the blame, greasy little turd. He is the president, the top man, all this has happened on his watch, he should go, now. Platini is talking about about a World Cup boycott for UEFA members, I'd be fine with this, I'd like to see an extra European Championship, fuck FIFA. Hes already started backtracking on that. Doesn't have the balls to do it. But the first thing that should happen when Blatter gets re-elected tomorrow is that UEFA should withdraw ALL its nations from FIFA. The brazilians and argies would quickly fall into line along with the likes of USA and Australia etc and FIFA would collapse like a pack of cards in days. No WC in Russia- a corrupt , war-mongering nation if ever there was one, and no WC in Qatar- another corrupt, medieval-minded nation that has no place hosting a world cup. Re form a governing body with measures implemented to avoid this kind of corruption setting in again, such as a limited time for presidents to hold power and scrapping the ridiculous situation where The Soloman Islands get the same voting power as Germany- because all that does is hand power to corrupt twats like Sepp Blatter.
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Post by philincalifornia on May 29, 2015 0:10:39 GMT 1
How can people justify voting for the tw@t now ? It was difficult enough before !!
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Post by keithAM11532 on May 29, 2015 0:27:05 GMT 1
Really looking forward to getting up in the morning to see what the news is. No team form outside of Europe or South America has ever won the world cup- -so it would be no different if we broke away with them and whoever else wanted to join us. I am truly staggered at the sheer arrogance of the man but also at the clearly corrupt smaller nations that want him reelected as well.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 1:27:26 GMT 1
How can people justify voting for the tw@t now ? It was difficult enough before !! What has he done?
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Post by keithAM11532 on May 29, 2015 2:03:06 GMT 1
How can people justify voting for the tw@t now ? It was difficult enough before !! What has he done? Nothing... and that's the problem
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Post by philincalifornia on May 29, 2015 2:04:35 GMT 1
How can people justify voting for the tw@t now ? It was difficult enough before !! What has he done? Presided over a clusterf*ck of fraud at the very least. Gross negligence in not knowing about what was going on, again at the very least. I'm being as charitable as possible.
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Post by wtd on May 29, 2015 4:34:37 GMT 1
Presided over a clusterf*ck of fraud at the very least. Gross negligence in not knowing about what was going on, again at the very least. I'm being as charitable as possible. Agree. Though how he could 'not know' beggars belief. It was/is his duty to know. With such a vile stench coming from FIFA for years then only an ostrich could have avoided getting to the truth and unearthing bad practices. At the very least he is culpable of looking the other way in order to suit his own ends and feather his own nest. You see what you want to see.
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Post by philincalifornia on May 29, 2015 5:01:30 GMT 1
Presided over a clusterf*ck of fraud at the very least. Gross negligence in not knowing about what was going on, again at the very least. I'm being as charitable as possible. Agree. Though how he could 'not know' beggars belief. It was/is his duty to know. With such a vile stench coming from FIFA for years then only an ostrich could have avoided getting to the truth and unearthing bad practices. At the very least he is culpable of looking the other way in order to suit his own ends and feather his own nest. You see what you want to see. Yeah, I was responding to nt, who was technically correct in the "innocent until proven guilty" context. However, this isn't a jury trial, it's an election and I'm guessing that the people voting know a hell of a lot more about this than we do. Maybe that's why they'll vote for him - he's the best one to get their arses out of the sling too.
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Post by kennyk2 on May 29, 2015 7:03:44 GMT 1
Really looking forward to getting up in the morning to see what the news is. No team form outside of Europe or South America has ever won the world cup- -so it would be no different if we broke away with them and whoever else wanted to join us. I am truly staggered at the sheer arrogance of the man but also at the clearly corrupt smaller nations that want him reelected as well. There was some marketing academic on the radio yesterday saying that even if Visa, Coca Cola etc withdraw their sponsorship of FIFA, there will be multi-nationals queuing up to sponsor them within a few weeks, once it's all blown over. You see it's not about FIFA, but it IS about the World Cup. He suggested that the only way that FIFA would be damaged, is if UEFA pull out of Russia en masse in 2018.
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Post by wtd on May 29, 2015 7:39:49 GMT 1
Agree. Though how he could 'not know' beggars belief. It was/is his duty to know. With such a vile stench coming from FIFA for years then only an ostrich could have avoided getting to the truth and unearthing bad practices. At the very least he is culpable of looking the other way in order to suit his own ends and feather his own nest. You see what you want to see. Yeah, I was responding to nt, who was technically correct in the "innocent until proven guilty" context. However, this isn't a jury trial, it's an election and I'm guessing that the people voting know a hell of a lot more about this than we do. Maybe that's why they'll vote for him - he's the best one to get their arses out of the sling too.Your last line says it all, Phil. This man will be re-elected and is beyond any reasonable man's thinking. The whole thing is rotten to the core.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 8:21:50 GMT 1
I suspect the FBI have some shit on fatbladder, it's just a matter of time till it sticks. As for responsibility, fatbladder does not understand the word or it's meaning. The responsibility for everything lies with him and him alone and it's time for him to fall on his sword.
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Post by jasonhand on May 29, 2015 9:20:32 GMT 1
I'll be gobsmacked if Blatter fails to win the election today. You would think any decent minded people would go into todays elections thinking we can't carry on like this and vote the other chap in, but sadly we are talking about decent minded people. It sounds like Africa, Americas and the majority of Australasia and Oceania will be voting for Blatter.
I can't see UEFA pulling out of WC2018, it just won't happen. The only thing which can stop this whole farce is for the FBI to do whatever needs to be done and I'm not sure this will happen.
Its beyond belief Blatter can carry out but I've just got a feeling he will somehow manage it.
As for the sponsors I think they could have a very tricky time of getting out of any sponsorship deals, would probably cost them millions. And as was said earlier in the thread plenty of other multi-nationals who will be happy to take their place.
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Post by keithAM11532 on May 29, 2015 15:56:53 GMT 1
Not long now..Blatter is blathering on. The suspense is killing me.
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Post by Lard Buttie on May 29, 2015 15:59:58 GMT 1
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Post by Lard Buttie on May 29, 2015 16:02:35 GMT 1
You know me already, I don’t need to introduce myself to you. You know who you’re dealing with. I also know I can count on you. We need to recover our good name. We will start tomorrow morning with this goal in mind. He’s talking as though he’s already won! What is this notion of time? Time is infinite as we slice it up. I feel the time I have spent at Fifa is short.” is be blabbering on about??
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 29, 2015 16:04:35 GMT 1
top bloke in an organisation..
a. if its all going on and nobody tells you then you have no respect from those below you and are simply not fit to run the organisation.
b. if its all going on and you are aware and don't do anything you are at least colluding and are not fit to run the organisation.
c. if its all going on and you are either part of it or the instigator of it you go to prison..
blatter is looking for a point d. and there isn't one..
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Post by keithAM11532 on May 29, 2015 16:06:16 GMT 1
Half of me wants the Jordanian to win to get shut of Blatter. but the other half wants Blatter to win so that Platini will withdraw UEFA from the sordid mess.
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Post by Sapphire on May 29, 2015 16:19:39 GMT 1
He will win the election. It will be all the more sweet to see him deposed and dragged out of the building by the authorities.
Was actually hoping the FBI came in for him during his speech.
For what it's worth, Prince Ali gave a lame speech at a time which was tailor made for a challenger. Whatever you think of Sepp Blatter, he was polished, looked up and worked the room masterfully. The prick.
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Post by gledholt terrier on May 29, 2015 17:06:03 GMT 1
The first 3 up to vote were Afghanistan, Albania and Aruba. Aruba.
All 3 have equal voting rights with Germany, Argentina, Brasil, Italy etc.
While smaller nations need a voice, the current system - easily corruptable as will no doubt be proven - gives them a gold megaphone.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 17:31:48 GMT 1
Simpsons predicting the future a year ago.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 17:46:12 GMT 1
The first 3 up to vote were Afghanistan, Albania and Aruba. Aruba. All 3 have equal voting rights with Germany, Argentina, Brasil, Italy etc. While smaller nations need a voice, the current system - easily corruptable as will no doubt be proven - gives them a gold megaphone. Its a bit of a quandary, in that Africa has more say than Europe within FIFA. It seems wrong somehow, but is that impression just because I'm European? It almost feels like a World organisation should be disbanded, let the individual federations run the game for the interest of their own countries, and scrap the World Cup.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 29, 2015 18:04:07 GMT 1
Only the top 100 rated countries should even get a vote. Maybe even top 50. Work out a systme of grading countries into that- not just FIFA rankings, which are spurious at best, but also include history of qualifying. Take away voting rights for FAs that don't do enough to tackle hooliganism, or racism or are found guilty of curruption etc. Ok, put in caveats so that football develops in all these minor places etc,but in what world is it plausible that Aruba or Gibraltar have as much say in the running of the world game, its rules, the venues of world cups etc etc,as Argentina, England or Germany?? Its a nonsense and the lifeblood of corruption.
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