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Post by shawsie on Nov 21, 2015 19:40:50 GMT 1
Nah not having that, you kicked us all over the pitch, took an undeserved lead and got what you deserved in the end. Absolute rubbish.......one bad tackle in the game for me and bunn was rightly yellow carded. You must be getting soft walkley, although watching forestieri dive every week might have something to do with it....class player though he is. |
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Post by townrwe on Nov 21, 2015 19:46:56 GMT 1
Just got back... don't want to slag the players off, but we are short of proper ball players.
Personally thought dempsey was the standout and the only one who kept running for the 90 minutes.
We blew ourselves out and got caught last 20 minutes. Just before they scored I said we are blowing out of our arsed here, like a boxer who had punched himself out and despite dominating most of the fight got floored in the last couple of rounds.
Work in progress yes.. better football... well intention to play the football... lacking quality in all areas.
Felt sorry for nahki, he didn't get a ball threaded all afternoon but put in the yards.
We desperately need a striker, a ball plating centre back, a keeper who is more comfortable with the ball at his feet.
Dempsey probably needs to return to the middle as we need his engine and someone to spot a forward pass.
Pressing for 60-70 minutes was effective, but we aren't fit enough at the moment to do 90 minutes of high intensity running.
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Post by buckers on Nov 21, 2015 19:47:24 GMT 1
Nah not having that, you kicked us all over the pitch, took an undeserved lead and got what you deserved in the end. And you lot should be in the champions league. Typical massive comment. Why didn't you score till after the 70th minute if you out played us? |
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Post by walkleyowl on Nov 21, 2015 19:58:58 GMT 1
Nah not having that, you kicked us all over the pitch, took an undeserved lead and got what you deserved in the end. And you lot should be in the champions league. Typical massive comment. Why didn't you score till after the 70th minute if you out played us? We scored three in 12 minutes....soz |
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Post by walkleyowl on Nov 21, 2015 20:00:05 GMT 1
Nah not having that, you kicked us all over the pitch, took an undeserved lead and got what you deserved in the end. Absolute rubbish.......one bad tackle in the game for me and bunn was rightly yellow carded. You must be getting soft walkley, although watching forestieri dive every week might have something to do with it....class player though he is. Whitehead and centre half both could have gone. |
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Post by richhtfc on Nov 21, 2015 20:01:43 GMT 1
Went today and enjoyed first 70 minutes, really looked like we knew what we were doing for once. Not sure we supported the attack enough on the numerous occasions we won the ball but we were pressing really well and Wednesday couldn't cope with it. I think with the addition of one or two players (either new ones or returnees from injury/suspension) and lots of hard work we can get some results. I'm hoping Wagner will get Patterson and Vaughan involved ASAP as both are more than good enough in this division, think we missed Lynch today too. What needs addressing is the nature of our capitulation, that wasn't new at all we've been doing it regularly since we came up. We boss games, go ahead, they score and we completely shit it, lose all shape and invite the other team on to win. We won't go anywhere until we can stop that happening.
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Post by Terriersmad on Nov 21, 2015 20:11:06 GMT 1
Went today and enjoyed first 70 minutes, really looked like we knew what we were doing for once. Not sure we supported the attack enough on the numerous occasions we won the ball but we were pressing really well and Wednesday couldn't cope with it. I think with the addition of one or two players (either new ones or returnees from injury/suspension) and lots of hard work we can get some results. I'm hoping Wagner will get Patterson and Vaughan involved ASAP as both are more than good enough in this division, think we missed Lynch today too. What needs addressing is the nature of our capitulation, that wasn't new at all we've been doing it regularly since we came up. We boss games, go ahead, they score and we completely shit it, lose all shape and invite the other team on to win. We won't go anywhere until we can stop that happening. I'd agree pretty much entirely with this. I'd slightly disagree that we didn't support the attack enough - for me, we drove forward with as much conviction as we have in quite some time and had bodies in the box regularly, which we've lacked (albeit without that one striker who could convert a cross - thought Wells played well when deep and linked play well, but he conspicuously never got the ball in front of goal and wasn't going to with those two centre-halves). I'm actually of the view that having some tough games now will benefit us. Wagner will learn more from days against good sides like Wednesday and Middlesbrough than he would against others. Hopefully in a few weeks' time we'll be starting to pick up results. We'll be fine this season, provided we bring in one or two others and others get fit. |
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Post by htfc1908 on Nov 21, 2015 20:11:33 GMT 1
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Nov 21, 2015 20:16:15 GMT 1
And you lot should be in the champions league. Typical massive comment. Why didn't you score till after the 70th minute if you out played us? We scored three in 12 minutes....soz Once we had burnt ourselves out. Before then the only passing you could do was backwards and you resorted to hitting it long. You were out of ideas and our players stopped you from playing. Once we get more used to the style of play and get fit enough we should be able to do what we did for 70 mins for 90 mins. |
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Nov 21, 2015 20:21:14 GMT 1
We scored three in 12 minutes....soz Once we had burnt ourselves out. Before then the only passing you could do was backwards and you resorted to hitting it long. You were out of ideas and our players stopped you from playing. Once we get more used to the style of play and get fit enough we should be able to do what we did for 70 mins for 90 mins.Perhaps, but difficult to get fit in mid season that should have been done in preseason.... on the other hand we might never be able to sustain this pressing game with these technically inept players, and once we regain possession have they the quality to hurt the opposition and make chances? What ive seen from this season and last would suggest not |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Nov 21, 2015 20:25:43 GMT 1
Once we had burnt ourselves out. Before then the only passing you could do was backwards and you resorted to hitting it long. You were out of ideas and our players stopped you from playing. Once we get more used to the style of play and get fit enough we should be able to do what we did for 70 mins for 90 mins.Perhaps, but difficult to get fit in mid season that should have been done in preseason.... on the other hand we might never be able to sustain this pressing game with these technically inept players, and once we regain possession have they the quality to hurt the opposition and make chances? What ive seen from this season and last would suggest not we will gradually get fitter. We created a number of chances today away at one of the better teams in the league so I am sure that we can do it against others. Wagner still needs to get used to which players he prefers. Bunn for me should not be playing in the number 10 position and Patterson would be perfect playing there. He has the quality to create chances. |
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Post by detox on Nov 21, 2015 20:28:44 GMT 1
Nah not having that, you kicked us all over the pitch, took an undeserved lead and got what you deserved in the end. erm, don't wednesday have the dirtiest record in the championship (most fouls made) ? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 20:29:52 GMT 1
Absolute rubbish.......one bad tackle in the game for me and bunn was rightly yellow carded. You must be getting soft walkley, although watching forestieri dive every week might have something to do with it....class player though he is. Whitehead and centre half both could have gone. Wow. This is the first year in ten that your lot haven't kicked us off the park for 90 minutes. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 20:33:14 GMT 1
He does it on a regular basis the lad needs to realise he's not in non league anymore and can't just dribble past everyone and tbh if it hasn't sunk in by now with him it never will A regular basis? He's hardly played in the first team and what about the goals he's scored where he takes players on, cuts inside and hammers them? Should he stop doing that in case he loses it and our defence can't cope? Yes and there are clear reasons why both at Town and indeed Scunthorpe...head down and I'm going to beat at least three defenders but rarely does and if he does he's cut inside which makes difficult a) to put a decent cross in and b) for forwards to make decent runs into the box....plus the idea that he should be catered for because he likes to play on the opposite wing to his natural footing is just nonsense.... |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Nov 21, 2015 20:33:16 GMT 1
Perhaps, but difficult to get fit in mid season that should have been done in preseason.... on the other hand we might never be able to sustain this pressing game with these technically inept players, and once we regain possession have they the quality to hurt the opposition and make chances? What ive seen from this season and last would suggest not we will gradually get fitter. We created a number of chances today away at one of the better teams in the league so I am sure that we can do it against others. Wagner still needs to get used to which players he prefers. Bunn for me should not be playing in the number 10 position and Patterson would be perfect playing there. He has the quality to create chances. Wagner has set a fitness standard that Paterson and Vaughan can't make yet. He's going to quickly sort the men from the boys and the slackers from the workers. More power to his arm. It's the right way to go. A shame that Robins and Powell couldn't set high fitness levels and bring the team up towards them. See how hard Lalana , Coutinho and Firmino (small luxury players) worked against City and got an outstanding result. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 20:39:31 GMT 1
Just got back... don't want to slag the players off, but we are short of proper ball players. Personally thought dempsey was the standout and the only one who kept running for the 90 minutes. We blew ourselves out and got caught last 20 minutes. Just before they scored I said we are blowing out of our arsed here, like a boxer who had punched himself out and despite dominating most of the fight got floored in the last couple of rounds. Work in progress yes.. better football... well intention to play the football... lacking quality in all areas. Felt sorry for nahki, he didn't get a ball threaded all afternoon but put in the yards. We desperately need a striker, a ball plating centre back, a keeper who is more comfortable with the ball at his feet. Dempsey probably needs to return to the middle as we need his engine and someone to spot a forward pass. Pressing for 60-70 minutes was effective, but we aren't fit enough at the moment to do 90 minutes of high intensity running. FITNESS IS STILL THE KEY. Yes spot on report except for the plating ;-) |
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Post by netheredgeowl on Nov 21, 2015 20:47:59 GMT 1
To be honest, I think you played OK today. It looked like you came set up for a draw with the intention of nicking a goal and it looked like the plan was working for most of the game. When Joao scored the equaliser for us, you didn't seem to chase the game and still looked happy to get a point. I think if Huws had scored when it was 1-0 then we wouldn't have come back from that.
In the end I think 3-1 flattered us but from a Wednesday point of view I wouldn't be too downhearted if I was a Huddersfield fan. I was very impressed with Dempsey, Scannell caused us some problems and Huws looked decent enough. Murphy looked OK in goal apart from his distribution but the team seemed to lose its shape a bit when Whitehead went off.
It could have gone either way and could have easily been a win for Huddersfield. Having seen us play teams like Bolton and Rotherham this season, you are a cut above these teams and I am sure you'll stay up.
Good luck for the rest of the season.
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Post by Horney Barry on Nov 21, 2015 20:54:49 GMT 1
I sat in the Wednesday kop today and it was interesting to see their views on us. Apart from moaning about Whitehead kicking lumps out of them, they seemed quite impressed at how we played the ball around.
For me we played better football than under Powell. I liked this Gangemstyle pressing - it seemed to work. The fact we are not fit enough (which we already knew) meant this could not be done in the last 20 minutes.
We looked a lot more solid at the back - until the last 20 minutes when two very good strikers tore us apart.
We looked more compact and a tighter unit in midfield.
Up front - Wells looked better than he has been, Scannell and Carayol faded. Bunn played well even though i'm not his biggest fan.
All in all, it was more enjoyable to watch, which should increase crowds home and away.
BUT - The £5.5m from Butterfield and Smithies needs spending in January to make sure we finish well ahead of the likes of MK Dons, Rotherham and Preston.
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Post by tockyterrier on Nov 21, 2015 20:59:33 GMT 1
Just watched the sky highlights clip. And it looks like Hudson's short back pass for Murphy resulted in Murphy getting Crocker again. He was still clearly limping after their second goal went in.
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Post by raggytash on Nov 21, 2015 21:23:45 GMT 1
I sat in the Wednesday kop today and it was interesting to see their views on us. Apart from moaning about Whitehead kicking lumps out of them, they seemed quite impressed at how we played the ball around. For me we played better football than under Powell. I liked this Gangemstyle pressing - it seemed to work. The fact we are not fit enough (which we already knew) meant this could not be done in the last 20 minutes. We looked a lot more solid at the back - until the last 20 minutes when two very good strikers tore us apart. We looked more compact and a tighter unit in midfield. Up front - Wells looked better than he has been, Scannell and Carayol faded. Bunn played well even though i'm not his biggest fan. All in all, it was more enjoyable to watch, which should increase crowds home and away. BUT - The £5.5m from Butterfield and Smithies needs spending in January to make sure we finish well ahead of the likes of MK Dons, Rotherham and Preston. UTT IWWT Bang on mate Fitness told in the end, at 2.1 down, lolly tried to beat 7 defenders when he could have had a shot, lost the ball and he presto 3.1 down game over. Murphys distribution was woeful today. Long season ahead |
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Post by jqhtfc on Nov 21, 2015 21:24:21 GMT 1
Well three of us came out of hillsbrough today and none of us downhearted far from it to be honest, it was quite refreshing to us try and play football and look like we had a style and game plan which in my opinion worked very well up until the last 20 minutes. It will take time and the board need to spend some of that money but with some quality additions we could have a very exciting side to watch under Wagner the difference today is that Wednesday have spent that bit of money and have the match winners and we ran out of a bit of steam could have so different had huws scored, defeat yes but plenty of positives to take away from that and Wagner will have learned a lot the most glaring being Hudson can't play in that side and will be out as soon as lynch is fit.
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Post by raggytash on Nov 21, 2015 21:24:26 GMT 1
I sat in the Wednesday kop today and it was interesting to see their views on us. Apart from moaning about Whitehead kicking lumps out of them, they seemed quite impressed at how we played the ball around. For me we played better football than under Powell. I liked this Gangemstyle pressing - it seemed to work. The fact we are not fit enough (which we already knew) meant this could not be done in the last 20 minutes. We looked a lot more solid at the back - until the last 20 minutes when two very good strikers tore us apart. We looked more compact and a tighter unit in midfield. Up front - Wells looked better than he has been, Scannell and Carayol faded. Bunn played well even though i'm not his biggest fan. All in all, it was more enjoyable to watch, which should increase crowds home and away. BUT - The £5.5m from Butterfield and Smithies needs spending in January to make sure we finish well ahead of the likes of MK Dons, Rotherham and Preston. UTT IWWT |
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Post by explorer on Nov 21, 2015 21:26:04 GMT 1
Did well up to the last 15 mins. Wednesday started to lump it forwards and we couldn't cope. They had run out of ideas up to that point. Key moment was the save from Huws. Had we gone 2-0 up we'd have won. A work in progress but we will get there! Don't agree with that, quite the opposite imo. They spent the whole game lumping it up to that gyppo with the bun on his head. Although he won a lot of ball, they were getting nowhere. Once he went off, and they started playing the ball to feet (particularly that cheating twat Forestieri) they tore us up. Interestingly all three goals from our right hand side, |
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Post by impact on Nov 21, 2015 21:32:47 GMT 1
Just seen the highlights. Murphy didn't cover himself in glory for the second - both with the parry and the amount of time it took him to get up - and can someone please show our defender how to defend without their arms in the bleeding air!
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Nov 21, 2015 21:37:32 GMT 1
Well three of us came out of hillsbrough today and none of us downhearted far from it to be honest, it was quite refreshing to us try and play football and look like we had a style and game plan which in my opinion worked very well up until the last 20 minutes. It will take time and the board need to spend some of that money but with some quality additions we could have a very exciting side to watch under Wagner the difference today is that Wednesday have spent that bit of money and have the match winners and we ran out of a bit of steam could have so different had huws scored, defeat yes but plenty of positives to take away from that and Wagner will have learned a lot the most glaring being Hudson can't play in that side and will be out as soon as lynch is fit. How did Cranie get on at centre half? Sounds like Cranie and Lynch would be a decent pairing in this system? |
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Post by jqhtfc on Nov 21, 2015 21:40:23 GMT 1
Cranie was decent, solid enough and is good enough on the ball to do well in system, Hudson though was garbage he just isn't a good enough footballer to play the ball from the back and totally agree when lynch is back it could very well be him and Cranie.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 21:54:52 GMT 1
Interesting comment about Vaughan only making 6 of the 15 training sessions and that training is a prerequisite to being picked. I don't think we will be seeing much of him
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Nov 21, 2015 22:02:16 GMT 1
Cranie was decent, solid enough and is good enough on the ball to do well in system, Hudson though was garbage he just isn't a good enough footballer to play the ball from the back and totally agree when lynch is back it could very well be him and Cranie. Hopefully it won't take Wagner too long to work out what some of us have been saying for some time, that Hudson is past it. |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Nov 21, 2015 22:02:25 GMT 1
Absolute rubbish.......one bad tackle in the game for me and bunn was rightly yellow carded. You must be getting soft walkley, although watching forestieri dive every week might have something to do with it....class player though he is. Whitehead and centre half both could have gone. Forestieri should have gone for what looked like a two footed lunge on Murphy. Interesting that we committed 15 fouls to your 12 even though the ref missed 2/3 clear free kicks for us and was very lenient when a number of your players lost the ball and threw themselves to the floor. You are confusing being dirty with closing down. We now try to win the ball back quickly and press other teams. Hence why we had about 2/3 of the ball before we were knackered. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Nov 21, 2015 22:02:55 GMT 1
Interesting comment about Vaughan only making 6 of the 15 training sessions and that training is a prerequisite to being picked. I don't think we will be seeing much of him Set the standard high. |
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