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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 1, 2016 19:55:54 GMT 1
I wish we actually owned some of our players though That would mean we have to spend money which is something we don't do , all the dean Hoyle fanboys will say it's a good price of business but in reality it's another winger/striker on loan . No wonder people don't come it's simply down to what your putting on the field , all we get are cast offs like whitehead Patterson husband to name a few , only way we're going to get back on track is to try and compete , I know we can't spend 5 or 6 million on players but at least show a bit of intent and maybe just maybe it might work . I'll name you a few more - Rhodes, Butterfield, Clayton, Lynch and the much maligned Danny Ward!
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Post by nobbygull on Feb 1, 2016 19:57:05 GMT 1
He could, just could, be your cult player of the year. Incredible pace, can easily beat his man . . . and . . . and, well if the goal stretched from corner flag to corner flag he might hit the target. He will give the linesman a bout of repetitive strain syndrome from flagging offside every time he gets the ball. When he does burst forward he's like a rhino on heat . . . . well that's about it really. Enjoy the moment 'cos that's all you're going to get with Elvis, apart from the songs. " He's caught in a trap, he can't let go, cos he's offside baby, we can't go on together with suspicious minds . . ". Sorry! Maybe, just maybe we are prepared to give him more of a chance than you were. You must have one shite scouting system if you paid 1.5m for someone THAT crap! We've finished playing you this season... don't think we need your input anymore. Bye.
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Post by nobbygull on Feb 1, 2016 20:01:48 GMT 1
He could, just could, be your cult player of the year. Incredible pace, can easily beat his man . . . and . . . and, well if the goal stretched from corner flag to corner flag he might hit the target. He will give the linesman a bout of repetitive strain syndrome from flagging offside every time he gets the ball. When he does burst forward he's like a rhino on heat . . . . well that's about it really. Enjoy the moment 'cos that's all you're going to get with Elvis, apart from the songs. " He's caught in a trap, he can't let go, cos he's offside baby, we can't go on together with suspicious minds . . ". Sorry! Maybe, just maybe we are prepared to give him more of a chance than you were. You must have one shite scouting system if you paid 1.5m for someone THAT crap! We've finished playing you this season... don't think we need your input anymore. Bye.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 20:02:36 GMT 1
Should we boo him soon as he comes on,,or shall we see if he's good?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 20:03:51 GMT 1
I wish we actually owned some of our players though That would mean we have to spend money which is something we don't do , all the dean Hoyle fanboys will say it's a good price of business but in reality it's another winger/striker on loan . No wonder people don't come it's simply down to what your putting on the field , all we get are cast offs like whitehead Patterson husband to name a few , only way we're going to get back on track is to try and compete , I know we can't spend 5 or 6 million on players but at least show a bit of intent and maybe just maybe it might work . Its been proven multiple times you dont have to spend that much money. Its about being smart/not paying over tge odds. We wouldnt have survived this long if we didnt.
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Post by nobbygull on Feb 1, 2016 20:04:31 GMT 1
He could, just could, be your cult player of the year. Incredible pace, can easily beat his man . . . and . . . and, well if the goal stretched from corner flag to corner flag he might hit the target. He will give the linesman a bout of repetitive strain syndrome from flagging offside every time he gets the ball. When he does burst forward he's like a rhino on heat . . . . well that's about it really. Enjoy the moment 'cos that's all you're going to get with Elvis, apart from the songs. " He's caught in a trap, he can't let go, cos he's offside baby, we can't go on together with suspicious minds . . ". Sorry! Maybe, just maybe we are prepared to give him more of a chance than you were. You must have one shite scouting system if you paid 1.5m for someone THAT crap! We've finished playing you this season... don't think we need your input anymore. Bye. Bit touchy there sweet cheeks?
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Post by NotGotaPotToPissIn on Feb 1, 2016 20:05:57 GMT 1
That would mean we have to spend money which is something we don't do , all the dean Hoyle fanboys will say it's a good price of business but in reality it's another winger/striker on loan . No wonder people don't come it's simply down to what your putting on the field , all we get are cast offs like whitehead Patterson husband to name a few , only way we're going to get back on track is to try and compete , I know we can't spend 5 or 6 million on players but at least show a bit of intent and maybe just maybe it might work . I'll name you a few more - Rhodes, Butterfield, Clayton, Lynch and the much maligned Danny Ward! Danny ward cost a million , Rhodes 350k clayton 350k lynch was out of contract and didn't get on with the forest manager and wanted a new start so if your trying to imply that these were cast offs you would be wrong , we took a punt and spent good money on them and made a profit selling them on . We haven't spent a penny hardly in two years on transfer fees compared to what we received and what I'm getting at is that we should be doing what we used to , we want players but won't pay now and it's what's keeping fans away and becoming fed up with the same old shit .
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Post by NotGotaPotToPissIn on Feb 1, 2016 20:10:53 GMT 1
That would mean we have to spend money which is something we don't do , all the dean Hoyle fanboys will say it's a good price of business but in reality it's another winger/striker on loan . No wonder people don't come it's simply down to what your putting on the field , all we get are cast offs like whitehead Patterson husband to name a few , only way we're going to get back on track is to try and compete , I know we can't spend 5 or 6 million on players but at least show a bit of intent and maybe just maybe it might work . Its been proven multiple times you dont have to spend that much money. Its about being smart/not paying over tge odds. We wouldnt have survived this long if we didnt. Your bang right we don't but what we have to do is show a bit of intent , players we used to get for 350k probably cost double that now in todays market , all we seem to be doing is trying to survive and never taking a step forward . At the end of the day people want to watch a winning team and regardless of how they play or what system that is a wins a win , I'd gladly watch boring football if it meant winning 46 games a season .
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Feb 1, 2016 20:11:25 GMT 1
How did he compare VLP Nobby? Chalk and cheese! VLP, I thought, was a good addition to our squad when we were desperate through injuries. He came with the goods - able to beat his man, cut in AND score, crossing not so hot. Elvis - I love the bloke! He's hardly played to be honest but when he comes on as sub, around the 80th minute, expect the unexpected. Tactically he's useless, but there are moments when he lifts the whole crowd. On one occasion he chased a through ball (he was onside for a change!) gave the defender a ten yard start and still beat him. He's a bulldozer on Mach2 with the same amount of control! So my view - VLP reliable and will do what's required, Elvis is a big gamble. Give him a ball to chase and he'll get it, what he does afterwards - well that's the gamble. Hopefully for you he'll come good and do the business, it will be fun to watch. By the way, his boots aren't blue suede! Thanks. Sounds like an impact player. Interesting to see what Wagner does with him re tactical awareness etc. think you might get a better player back by the end of the loan period.
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Post by wtd on Feb 1, 2016 20:13:24 GMT 1
Maybe, just maybe we are prepared to give him more of a chance than you were. You must have one shite scouting system if you paid 1.5m for someone THAT crap! We've finished playing you this season... don't think we need your input anymore. Bye. Bit touchy there sweet cheeks? Just a bit fed up of being told how poor our signings are by other Town fans. Don't need other team's fans telling me it, too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 20:14:40 GMT 1
I'll name you a few more - Rhodes, Butterfield, Clayton, Lynch and the much maligned Danny Ward! Danny ward cost a million , Rhodes 350k clayton 350k lynch was out of contract and didn't get on with the forest manager and wanted a new start so if your trying to imply that these were cast offs you would be wrong , we took a punt and spent good money on them and made a profit selling them on . We haven't spent a penny hardly in two years on transfer fees compared to what we received and what I'm getting at is that we should be doing what we used to , we want players but won't pay now and it's what's keeping fans away and becoming fed up with the same old shit . Roy keane didnt rate rhodes. Thats why we managed to get him. Would you prefer us to sign the likes of, simpson, mcdermott, robinson (theo and anton) along with the likes of j gudjohnson. The quality of players we need now has also improved, hence why asking prices are so much more. Not to mention the inflation of player prices on what they were before town got promoted. There is a massive chase to the premier league now cause of the even bigger money pot, along with a load on parachute payments. And ward didnt cost a million.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 1, 2016 20:15:17 GMT 1
Should we boo him soon as he comes on,,or shall we see if he's good? polite applause to start with then its not such a big swing to boos? having someone called Elvis playing for us at least makes us a bit more windswept and interesting.. a couple of Codys, two Brads and an Adolf would really swing it..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 20:20:11 GMT 1
Its been proven multiple times you dont have to spend that much money. Its about being smart/not paying over tge odds. We wouldnt have survived this long if we didnt. Your bang right we don't but what we have to do is show a bit of intent , players we used to get for 350k probably cost double that now in todays market , all we seem to be doing is trying to survive and never taking a step forward . At the end of the day people want to watch a winning team and regardless of how they play or what system that is a wins a win , I'd gladly watch boring football if it meant winning 46 games a season . Showing 'intent' in the grand schrme of things means fuck all. Bristol city tried spending big and failed. Why sign players whos expecting to challenge for play offs midway through a season when were bottom half and we dont even have the budget for it. makes no sense.
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Post by terrierng on Feb 1, 2016 20:20:16 GMT 1
So many fucking experts on here but in reality 99per cent wont have heard of matmour or manu;D The club dont make signings...no ambition
The club make signings.....wrong position and shit.
These two arn't wingers as most are stating but can play anywhere. That's right. Anywhere up front but dont let that get in the way of a fucking moan Someone even said they will wait and see about renewing, ;D ;D Fucking hilarious some of you.
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Post by Hammy (still in Golcar) on Feb 1, 2016 20:20:20 GMT 1
Can't we just give the lad a chance. It hasn't worked for him at Brighton. If we had paid 2million for him straight for feyenoord would that make some happy on here? He's young, got pace to burn and most importantly Wagner must see something in him. Going on the improvement in lolley et al under Wagner I'm at least willing to give the lad a chance. Time we started backing players and not writing them off before they've even pulled on a blue and white jersey. Boil my piss do some folk on here, not a fucking clue.
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Post by wtd on Feb 1, 2016 20:21:58 GMT 1
So many fucking experts on here but in reality 99per cent wont have heard of matmour or manu;D The club dont make signings...no ambition The club make signings.....wrong position and shit. These two arn't wingers as most are stating but can play anywhere. That's right. Anywhere up front but dont let that get in the way of a fucking moan Someone even said they will wait and see about renewing, ;D ;D Fucking hilarious some of you.
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Post by mightyterrier on Feb 1, 2016 20:22:29 GMT 1
Wagner Out
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Post by sapphireblue on Feb 1, 2016 20:25:07 GMT 1
Should we boo him soon as he comes on,,or shall we see if he's good? Aren't you asleep yet?
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Post by NotGotaPotToPissIn on Feb 1, 2016 20:26:26 GMT 1
Danny ward cost a million , Rhodes 350k clayton 350k lynch was out of contract and didn't get on with the forest manager and wanted a new start so if your trying to imply that these were cast offs you would be wrong , we took a punt and spent good money on them and made a profit selling them on . We haven't spent a penny hardly in two years on transfer fees compared to what we received and what I'm getting at is that we should be doing what we used to , we want players but won't pay now and it's what's keeping fans away and becoming fed up with the same old shit . Roy keane didnt rate rhodes. Thats why we managed to get him. Would you prefer us to sign the likes of, simpson, mcdermott, robinson (theo and anton) along with the likes of j gudjohnson. The quality of players we need now has also improved, hence why asking prices are so much more. Not to mention the inflation of player prices on what they were before town got promoted. There is a massive chase to the premier league now cause of the even bigger money pot, along with a load on parachute payments. And ward didnt cost a million. Ok so obviously your a Dean Hoyle fan boy and think the guy can do no wrong , obviously the quality and price of what are required go up and if dean Hoyle thinks that he can get loans in just to survive and at the same time get people coming to watch then your as deluded as he is , people want to watch a winning side no matter how the results are achieved , to do that takes better players than loan signings that can't get a game at the clubs there st now and are surplus to requirements. Only way we're ever going to get any better is to try and compete , that means spending money and I realise that we can't go out and spend 5 or 6 million on players but at least show some intent to the supporters that were trying to , otherwise what's the point . Your trying to tell me that out of all the division in the uk and Europe we can't sign a player for say a million pound that wouldn't improve us right now ? If you are then your a bigger fool than you make out !!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 20:27:52 GMT 1
Odds on Leeds fans claiming we've only signed him to annoy them because his name is a bit like their massive rivals? Elgin?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 20:31:12 GMT 1
Should we boo him soon as he comes on,,or shall we see if he's good? Aren't you asleep yet? nah mate,,I can't sleep now I'm watching the soaps,can't sleep at work either cos im too nosey and always on Datm,,,,10 o'clock bed time to night
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Post by straighttalker on Feb 1, 2016 20:31:18 GMT 1
I wish we actually owned some of our players though That would mean we have to spend money which is something we don't do , all the dean Hoyle fanboys will say it's a good price of business but in reality it's another winger/striker on loan . No wonder people don't come it's simply down to what your putting on the field , all we get are cast offs like whitehead Patterson husband to name a few , only way we're going to get back on track is to try and compete , I know we can't spend 5 or 6 million on players but at least show a bit of intent and maybe just maybe it might work . Cast-off's like Whitehead (without doubt our POFY up until his injury) and Paterson (just the one T required), a player who could yet go on to win our POFT award..... Cast-off's? Jog on you absolute retard
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 1, 2016 20:37:09 GMT 1
So many fucking experts on here but in reality 99per cent wont have heard of matmour or manu;D The club dont make signings...no ambition The club make signings.....wrong position and shit. These two arn't wingers as most are stating but can play anywhere. That's right. Anywhere up front but dont let that get in the way of a fucking moan Someone even said they will wait and see about renewing, ;D ;D Fucking hilarious some of you. the experts are on both sides, plus some who dont question the club and those who question absolutely everything.. its a mixed bag.. I believe they can both play up front but so can paterson, lolley,scannell and bunn.. get those 4 and wells scoring more often and the two brought in would be surplus to requirements anyway.. trying another 2 who 'can' play up front if required might look a bit like just 'beefing up the numbers' clearly we couldnt get a centre half or a full back and the 'full striker' was a no go...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 20:38:12 GMT 1
Roy keane didnt rate rhodes. Thats why we managed to get him. Would you prefer us to sign the likes of, simpson, mcdermott, robinson (theo and anton) along with the likes of j gudjohnson. The quality of players we need now has also improved, hence why asking prices are so much more. Not to mention the inflation of player prices on what they were before town got promoted. There is a massive chase to the premier league now cause of the even bigger money pot, along with a load on parachute payments. And ward didnt cost a million. Ok so obviously your a Dean Hoyle fan boy and think the guy can do no wrong , obviously the quality and price of what are required go up and if dean Hoyle thinks that he can get loans in just to survive and at the same time get people coming to watch then your as deluded as he is , people want to watch a winning side no matter how the results are achieved , to do that takes better players than loan signings that can't get a game at the clubs there st now and are surplus to requirements. Only way we're ever going to get any better is to try and compete , that means spending money and I realise that we can't go out and spend 5 or 6 million on players but at least show some intent to the supporters that were trying to , otherwise what's the point . Your trying to tell me that out of all the division in the uk and Europe we can't sign a player for say a million pound that wouldn't improve us right now ? If you are then your a bigger fool than you make out !! Blergh. From my previous posts on this site clearly not a 'fan boy'.boring rhetoric. Do we have such an amazing scout force that can pick out a player for one million across europe that can buy a player for one mill or under? I dont even think the likes of brighton can since they spent 1.5 mill on manu. Not to mention you have ignored wages.
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Post by NotGotaPotToPissIn on Feb 1, 2016 20:38:32 GMT 1
That would mean we have to spend money which is something we don't do , all the dean Hoyle fanboys will say it's a good price of business but in reality it's another winger/striker on loan . No wonder people don't come it's simply down to what your putting on the field , all we get are cast offs like whitehead Patterson husband to name a few , only way we're going to get back on track is to try and compete , I know we can't spend 5 or 6 million on players but at least show a bit of intent and maybe just maybe it might work . Cast-off's like Whitehead (without doubt our POFY up until his injury) and Paterson (just the one T required), a player who could yet go on to win our POFT award..... Cast-off's? Jog on you absolute retard Player of the year who isn't our own , whitehead who only looks good as he's got a bunch of mugs around him , why didn't boro give him a new deal if he was that good hey ? Jog on you mug , another dean Hoyle fanboy who'll be happy sitting there happy clapping when the crowds dip below 10k next year , wake up ffs you mug !!
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Post by Torquayterrier on Feb 1, 2016 20:40:15 GMT 1
Buxton and Clough made winning sides from 'cast offs' ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 20:42:37 GMT 1
Cast-off's like Whitehead (without doubt our POFY up until his injury) and Paterson (just the one T required), a player who could yet go on to win our POFT award..... Cast-off's? Jog on you absolute retard Player of the year who isn't our own , whitehead who only looks good as he's got a bunch of mugs around him , why didn't boro give him a new deal if he was that good hey ? Jog on you mug , another dean Hoyle fanboy who'll be happy sitting there happy clapping when the crowds dip below 10k next year , wake up ffs you mug !! Are you moaner in disguise?
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Post by NotGotaPotToPissIn on Feb 1, 2016 20:46:41 GMT 1
Ok so obviously your a Dean Hoyle fan boy and think the guy can do no wrong , obviously the quality and price of what are required go up and if dean Hoyle thinks that he can get loans in just to survive and at the same time get people coming to watch then your as deluded as he is , people want to watch a winning side no matter how the results are achieved , to do that takes better players than loan signings that can't get a game at the clubs there st now and are surplus to requirements. Only way we're ever going to get any better is to try and compete , that means spending money and I realise that we can't go out and spend 5 or 6 million on players but at least show some intent to the supporters that were trying to , otherwise what's the point . Your trying to tell me that out of all the division in the uk and Europe we can't sign a player for say a million pound that wouldn't improve us right now ? If you are then your a bigger fool than you make out !! Blergh. From my previous posts on this site clearly not a 'fan boy'.boring rhetoric. Do we have such an amazing scout force that can pick out a player for one million across europe that can buy a player for one mill or under? I dont even think the likes of brighton can since they spent 1.5 mill on manu. Not to mention you have ignored wages. thing is we never even try do we , we're happy to just sit tight and hope there are three worse teams than us come the end of the season , it's no wonder people don't want to go even when it's only a tenner in is it , the only way we'll ever get crowds back and people interested is by the old adage of speculating to accumulate, some will work some wont but that's the only way end of , to expect players to over achieve week in week out is what we have done for the last three seasons and it's proof that it doesn't work .
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Post by NotGotaPotToPissIn on Feb 1, 2016 20:53:23 GMT 1
Player of the year who isn't our own , whitehead who only looks good as he's got a bunch of mugs around him , why didn't boro give him a new deal if he was that good hey ? Jog on you mug , another dean Hoyle fanboy who'll be happy sitting there happy clapping when the crowds dip below 10k next year , wake up ffs you mug !! Are you moaner in disguise? Been watching town for near on 35 years and if I'm honest lost all fight and spirit I once had , I'm not moaner no but I am moaning yes , just fed up of all the happy clappers who are happy with there lot , I want to watch my team win and show passion and commitment , all I see is loan mercenaries collecting there coin and end of April going back to there clubs and the process will undoubtedly repeat itself next season , shouldn't we as fans want more than that ?
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Feb 1, 2016 20:53:27 GMT 1
Maybe, just maybe we are prepared to give him more of a chance than you were. You must have one shite scouting system if you paid 1.5m for someone THAT crap! We've finished playing you this season... don't think we need your input anymore. Bye. Bit touchy there sweet cheeks? Not a stereotypical comment from a Brighton fan.
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