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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 15, 2016 23:29:34 GMT 1
Did anyone ( except maybe the doc live from Canada ) rub their hands in glee on the first day of the 2011-12 season saying " come on lads lets go for the 27th ( or whatever it was) unbeaten" ? Or were we still all nursing our heartbroken tickers at the fact we had lost in the most important league game in 20 years plus ? Doc didn't emigrate until Aug 2014, so feel free once again to ridicule an opinion based on geography alone. Poor show fella! I am quite sure my heart was as broken as anyone else's after OT! Never once during the run did I celebrate it until we broke Forest's record. Come on Doc you know the expat jibes are just jealousy |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Feb 15, 2016 23:43:44 GMT 1
Doc didn't emigrate until Aug 2014, so feel free once again to ridicule an opinion based on geography alone. Poor show fella! I am quite sure my heart was as broken as anyone else's after OT! Never once during the run did I celebrate it until we broke Forest's record. Come on Doc you know the expat jibes are just jealousy I thought the playoffs are league games was a leg pull too  Oh and for 2 hours around 3pm UK time on saturdays I wish I could teleport Star Trek beam me up stylee back to the Town match, I maybe should have a word with that other thespian Town fan who managed it for a few years. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Feb 15, 2016 23:51:04 GMT 1
Back in the day when teams were elected into the football league (and in the case of Arsenal, elected to the First Division) did the discussions that went on inside those rooms count as a league game then? Their league position and status depended on it.
No of course they didn't.
Play offs, similarly, are NOT league games.
Never were, never will be.
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Post by shedds on Feb 16, 2016 0:00:35 GMT 1
maybe im wrong but i always thought they was classed as end of season playoffs ,thus occuring after the league matches and season had ended
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Post by York Terrier on Feb 16, 2016 0:32:07 GMT 1
Are we talking about the same man who in the play off's against one of the worst defensive records in the league but one of the best attacks went with one up front and left Jordan Rhodes on the bench? He wasted millions at Town was crap at Birmingham and is unable to get a job in England in any league. Good riddance is what I say Kilmarnock will go down and he will be out of a job in 8 months Completely ignoring the fact that the one up front formation had been far more successful for us winning the last six consecutive away games with that formation, while the front 2 formation had garnered 3 wins and 5 draws when used at home. Jordan Rhodes at the end of that season was a pale shadow of the Jordan Rhodes that turned up fitter, stronger and hungrier the next season, he missed a couple of dobbers in the home Bournemouth semi, while looking unfit and knackered after 30 mins. But don't let those facts get in the way of your narrative What facts?you are missing the point did they have one of the worst defences in the division Yes Did they have one of the best attacks Yes Who is always likely to score you a vital goal Ehh Jordan Rhodes Final question what was the score? Did we win? |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 16, 2016 0:51:16 GMT 1
You mean the crazy notion that a game that effects your league placing is a league game?  The clues are there Cap'n....... The 4 playoff qualifiers compete in two legged SEMI FINALS, the winner of each TIE meet in the FINAL at WEMBLEY. If the teams are tied at the end of normal time then EXTRA TIME is played and if they still can't be separated then a PENALTY SHOOTOUT takes place to determine the winner. Still sounding like league matches to you? The final league table always shows a 46 game season, no league points are awarded to any team competing in the playoffs and a (P) is placed next to the winners of the playoffs. But hey if you still want to call them league games then call the FL for clarification The only reason anyone would call the playoffs league games is merely wanting to undermine the unbeaten run. Yes the clues are all there. Who runs the play off games? The Football LEAGUE Whats are they called? The LEAGUE 1 play offs What is the game part of? The LEAGUE 1 season What is their purpose- to decide who moves up a division in the LEAGUE The play offs are not REGULAR SEASON League games. I do get that you know. We have the record for consecutive REGULAR season league games. They are however League games as they are organised by the league, as part of the league season and effect your league status. To not think they are league games is therefore utterly absurd. |
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Post by impact on Feb 16, 2016 1:01:40 GMT 1
Watching Slapps and Doc argue is the real-life example of when an irresistible force meets an immovable object
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 16, 2016 1:12:20 GMT 1
Back in the day when teams were elected into the football league (and in the case of Arsenal, elected to the First Division) did the discussions that went on inside those rooms count as a league game then? Their league position and status depended on it. No of course they didn't. Play offs, similarly, are NOT league games. Never were, never will be. Think you're confusing a match with a meeting! Easy mistake to make. Perhaps you and Doc can clear it up for me by telling me what you'd call a game run by the league, as part of the league season that effects your league standing? Is it a 'cup' game? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 1:36:40 GMT 1
Back in the day when teams were elected into the football league (and in the case of Arsenal, elected to the First Division) did the discussions that went on inside those rooms count as a league game then? Their league position and status depended on it. No of course they didn't. Play offs, similarly, are NOT league games. Never were, never will be. Think you're confusing a match with a meeting! Easy mistake to make. Perhaps you and Doc can clear it up for me by telling me what you'd call a game run by the league, as part of the league season that effects your league standing? Is it a 'cup' game? Of course it's a 'cup game'.   |
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Post by hasta el pueblo on Feb 16, 2016 1:40:56 GMT 1
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Feb 16, 2016 2:38:45 GMT 1
The clues are there Cap'n....... The 4 playoff qualifiers compete in two legged SEMI FINALS, the winner of each TIE meet in the FINAL at WEMBLEY. If the teams are tied at the end of normal time then EXTRA TIME is played and if they still can't be separated then a PENALTY SHOOTOUT takes place to determine the winner. Still sounding like league matches to you? The final league table always shows a 46 game season, no league points are awarded to any team competing in the playoffs and a (P) is placed next to the winners of the playoffs. But hey if you still want to call them league games then call the FL for clarification The only reason anyone would call the playoffs league games is merely wanting to undermine the unbeaten run. Yes the clues are all there. Who runs the play off games? The Football LEAGUEWhats are they called? The LEAGUE 1 play offs What is the game part of? The LEAGUE 1 season What is their purpose- to decide who moves up a division in the LEAGUE The play offs are not REGULAR SEASON League games. I do get that you know. We have the record for consecutive REGULAR season league games. They are however League games as they are organised by the league, as part of the league season and effect your league status. To not think they are league games is therefore utterly absurd.The FL organise the League Cup currently called the Carling Cup after the sponsors and also the Johnstone's Paint Trophy ....... are these league games too |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 9:03:24 GMT 1
Clark leaves Town, they get promoted and are now in their 4th season in the championship.
Clark leaves Birmingham in the relegation zone, they climb to a finishing position of 10th and are now pushing for the playoffs with the same financial restrictions.
Clark leaves Blackpool and even though they are in a lower division are probably doing better than they did under him.
Says it all.
He'll probably get the standard honeymoon period at Kilmarnock but ultimately its likely to be another failure on his managerial CV, but some will still claim he's a legendary manager.
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Post by htfc1908 on Feb 16, 2016 9:10:04 GMT 1
Our unbeaten run was verified by the football league and its their competition, they make the rules, end of, its in the record books, FACT |
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Post by thrice on Feb 16, 2016 9:58:34 GMT 1
This debate will not be over until Wagner goes 44.
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Post by explorer on Feb 16, 2016 10:50:14 GMT 1
Meanwhile, back on thread topic, here's an interesting quote from a footy blog - "He began his managerial career at Huddersfield Town, guiding the club to the League One Play-Off Final and breaking countless records, including the Football League 43-game unbeaten run"
I'm struggling to remember any of the "countless records" he broke at Town....highest number of midfield combinations in a single league season, maybe? (Not sure if that includes play-off games or not.....). Only one man can help me here - what's the story Nick?
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 16, 2016 11:26:19 GMT 1
Did anyone ( except maybe the doc live from Canada ) rub their hands in glee on the first day of the 2011-12 season saying " come on lads lets go for the 27th ( or whatever it was) unbeaten" ? Or were we still all nursing our heartbroken tickers at the fact we had lost in the most important league game in 20 years plus ? We didn't, we lost our most important game in 20 years. Neither league game or cup game just a money spinner for the FL. Play 46 games and the best 3 go up and the worst go down, not the best 2 and the 6th/7th best that got lucky over 3 games. Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 16, 2016 17:32:23 GMT 1
Meanwhile, back on thread topic, here's an interesting quote from a footy blog - "He began his managerial career at Huddersfield Town, guiding the club to the League One Play-Off Final and breaking countless records, including the Football League 43-game unbeaten run" I'm struggling to remember any of the "countless records" he broke at Town....highest number of midfield combinations in a single league season, maybe? (Not sure if that includes play-off games or not.....). Only one man can help me here - what's the story Nick? Don't remember any countless records except for the bestest longest unbeaten league game run ( not including cup or playoff) in the world. We played some lovely attacking entertaining footy too. All the haters can't take the record off him or the club. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Feb 16, 2016 18:02:18 GMT 1
Meanwhile, back on thread topic, here's an interesting quote from a footy blog - "He began his managerial career at Huddersfield Town, guiding the club to the League One Play-Off Final and breaking countless records, including the Football League 43-game unbeaten run" I'm struggling to remember any of the "countless records" he broke at Town....highest number of midfield combinations in a single league season, maybe? (Not sure if that includes play-off games or not.....). Only one man can help me here - what's the story Nick? except for the bestest longest unbeaten league game run ( not including cup or playoff) in the world. We played some lovely attacking entertaining footy too. All the haters can't take the record off him or the club. I think he said "he's a football man" more times than most. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 16, 2016 18:13:34 GMT 1
It's made some sideshow for this board IMO.
I'm delighted how DW is doing tbf, think he's much better coach than Clarky I'm not so daft.
However, most of us enjoyed the times under mr joker face clarky.
How long we giving him, I can't see more than a year ??
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 16, 2016 18:29:15 GMT 1
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Feb 16, 2016 18:48:17 GMT 1
He'll feel right at home at Killie, what with the blue and white stripes! Hope he does a good job, but realistically success for them would be continued survival in the SPL and getting the crowds back up to 5k. Anyone remember Town v Killie in a mid-season friendly in '67? 0-0 but a decent game in front of nearly 11.5k. Not that one. Did we not lose to them in a pre season game some years later? Someone else posted that we played them in a pre-season game (1978?) but I didn't see it as I was living in the States at that time. I have always kept a record of every game I've attended, hence my comments on the game from '67. Always easy for me to check up....don't need to rely on Wikipedia! |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Feb 16, 2016 19:00:02 GMT 1
It's made some sideshow for this board IMO. I'm delighted how DW is doing tbf, think he's much better coach than Clarky I'm not so daft. However, most of us enjoyed the times under mr joker face clarky. How long we giving him, I can't see more than a year ?? Depends if he has got the big lad Steve and the hard looking coach (who used to work for Sven and England) along with him. We went down hill when they left. |
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Post by Beech's Nuts on Feb 16, 2016 19:00:49 GMT 1
Meanwhile, back on thread topic, here's an interesting quote from a footy blog - "He began his managerial career at Huddersfield Town, guiding the club to the League One Play-Off Final and breaking countless records, including the Football League 43-game unbeaten run" I'm struggling to remember any of the "countless records" he broke at Town....highest number of midfield combinations in a single league season, maybe? (Not sure if that includes play-off games or not.....). Only one man can help me here - what's the story Nick? Don't remember any countless records except for the bestest longest unbeaten league game run ( not including cup or playoff) in the world.We played some lovely attacking entertaining footy too. All the haters can't take the record off him or the club. From June '86 to September '89 FC Steaua București (Bucharest) went undefeated for 104 league games. Celtic hold the British record at 62. link |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 19:40:05 GMT 1
Strange bloke and an average to poor manager.
He's obviously very desparate if he's ended up there. Last chance saloon
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Post by teddytheterrier on Feb 16, 2016 19:42:57 GMT 1
Some excellent views on Clark in this thread.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 16, 2016 19:44:43 GMT 1
Some excellent views on Clark in this thread. You made one just for him Teddy, probs justified instead of the ex player Fred mate as its a big story. |
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Feb 16, 2016 19:56:16 GMT 1
Say what you want about Lee Clark but he lifted the profile of our club that's for suraaaa
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 20:00:48 GMT 1
Whether its a league game or a cup game, I'd sooner we had won against Peterborough and lost one of the early games in the championship the next season. Better still I wish we had beaten Millwall the season before and whoever in the final. I'm glad we leave lost at Old Trafford looking back,,we may never get another day like we did at Wembley again |
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