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Post by bemorehogg on May 11, 2018 11:21:56 GMT 1
A few players out of contact in the prem and championship who we could have a eye on Premiership Chris brunt wba James mCcarthur palace Ki sung Yong Swansea James Morrison wba Bakery sako palace Glen johnsen stoke Martin kelly palace Marc Pugh bornmuff Championship Ryan fredericks Fulham Junior holiett Cardiff Abel Hernandez hull Bobby Reid Bristol City Marlon pack Bristol City Alexandre tettey Norwich Andy yiadom Barnsley Out of that list, I'd take Pugh, Fredericks, Hoilett and Reid. Fredericks won't leave Fulham if they win the play-offs, while Hoilett will probably sign an extension with the Bluebirds now. These would be my potential targets (that I know of): PREMIER LEAGUE Joe Allen (Stoke City) Yannick Bolasie (Everton) Oliver Burke (West Brom) Sam Clucas (Swansea City) Demarai Gray (Leicester City) Will Hughes (Watford) Kelechi Iheanacho (Leicester City) Terence Kongolo (Huddersfield, on loan from Monaco) Badou Ndiaye (Stoke City) Matt Ritchie (Newcastle United) Xherdan Shaqiri (Stoke City) James Ward-Prowse (Southampton) CHAMPIONSHIP: Albert Adomah (Aston Villa) Tom Cairney (Fulham) Ryan Fredericks (Fulham) Aron Gunnarsson (Cardiff City) Junior Hoilett (Cardiff City) Conor Hourihane (Aston Villa) Mile Jedinak (Aston Villa) James Maddison (Norwich City) Bobby Reid (Bristol City) Robert Snodgrass (Aston Villa) Adama Traore (Middlesbrough) SCOTTISH PREMIERSHIP: James Forrest (Celtic) John McGinn (Hibernian) Patrick Roberts (Celtic, on loan from Manchester City) Tom Rogic (Celtic) REST OF EUROPE: Anthony Limbombe (Club Brugge) Ademola Lookman (RB Leipzig, on loan from Everton) Giovanni Simeone (Fiorentina)
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on May 11, 2018 11:23:12 GMT 1
I expect us to have another 50-60M transfer kitty but the wage structure will remain, which is going to be the biggest challenge. It’s the wages that cripple clubs, I don’t expect us to change stance in signing players that don’t fit the model that has been so successful for us. I wouldn’t mind Clucas as I think he would be a good fit, but would depend what wages he’d want. The only other i’d look at from relegated sides would be Oliver Burke, Wagner wanted him before and I think he could turn him into a special player for us, just needs a decent manager. People will look at Burke and say he has done nothing at West Brom. Well neither did Pritchard when he was there and he has turned out to be a good signing for us He just needs a good manager to get him playing like he was for Forest Exactly, and because he did nothing for a relegated side the chances are no one else would challenge us for him.
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Post by bemorehogg on May 11, 2018 11:26:03 GMT 1
People will look at Burke and say he has done nothing at West Brom. Well neither did Pritchard when he was there and he has turned out to be a good signing for us He just needs a good manager to get him playing like he was for Forest Exactly, and because he did nothing for a relegated side the chances are no one else would challenge us for him. I'd take him any day. He has plenty of potential - and crucially, he is incisive. Right now, Hudds are a very blunt-edged football team. We need to be sharpened.
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Post by townrwe on May 11, 2018 11:46:45 GMT 1
Even with the amounts quoted above,I doubt we will have a great deal to spend this summer.Wages play a big part in the Prem.I sincerely hope I am wrong on this. We budgeted on 100M for a year in the prem and 40M first season parachute payment and 25M 2nd parachute payment. So 165M over 3 years.... plus the commercial rights etc. 165/3 = 55M for wages and transfers per year. Now we have 108M this year, worst case senario 100M next year if we finish bottom, 40, 25 ,20 parachute payments and the commercial add ons. 293M over 5 Years. We basically have the unexpected 108M plus the extra 20 parachute payment availiable to fund players over the next 3 years. 120/3 = 42.6M for wages and transfers over the next 3 years. Thats presuming its all spent on players and transfers, unlikely, but proportionally we will still have a good whack to spend on players like last year. Player sales will obviously add to that budget as will retiring players or players that are released.
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Post by mids on May 11, 2018 11:50:35 GMT 1
Even with the amounts quoted above,I doubt we will have a great deal to spend this summer.Wages play a big part in the Prem.I sincerely hope I am wrong on this. We budgeted on 100M for a year in the prem and 40M first season parachute payment and 25M 2nd parachute payment. So 165M over 3 years.... plus the commercial rights etc. 165/3 = 55M for wages and transfers per year. Now we have 108M this year, worst case senario 100M next year if we finish bottom, 40, 25 ,20 parachute payments and the commercial add ons. 293M over 5 Years. We basically have the unexpected 108M plus the extra 20 parachute payment availiable to fund players over the next 3 years. 120/3 = 42.6M for wages and transfers over the next 3 years. Thats presuming its all spent on players and transfers, unlikely, but proportionally we will still have a good whack to spend on players like last year. Player sales will obviously add to that budget as will retiring players or players that are released. Sounds so simple doesn't it
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on May 11, 2018 11:53:52 GMT 1
I expect us to buy players that most folk on here haven't even got on their radar. That seems to have been the way it's panned out in the past and I see no reason why it should change.
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Post by townrwe on May 11, 2018 11:56:43 GMT 1
We budgeted on 100M for a year in the prem and 40M first season parachute payment and 25M 2nd parachute payment. So 165M over 3 years.... plus the commercial rights etc. 165/3 = 55M for wages and transfers per year. Now we have 108M this year, worst case senario 100M next year if we finish bottom, 40, 25 ,20 parachute payments and the commercial add ons. 293M over 5 Years. We basically have the unexpected 108M plus the extra 20 parachute payment availiable to fund players over the next 3 years. 120/3 = 42.6M for wages and transfers over the next 3 years. Thats presuming its all spent on players and transfers, unlikely, but proportionally we will still have a good whack to spend on players like last year. Player sales will obviously add to that budget as will retiring players or players that are released. Sounds so simple doesn't it Yes clear as mud. The point is, there will be plenty to spend in town terms, another 128 million over what you would presume would be 3 years, based on average contract lengths with an option for us for a 4th year.
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Post by mozzie on May 11, 2018 12:52:20 GMT 1
I wonder if Matt Leckie would consider leaving Germany and having a go in the Premier League? If so, probably wouldn't be an over expensive option transfer fee wise to provide some pace and guile out wide.
Also agree with the poster further up the page who included Tom Rogic on a possible list, would provide competition for Pritchard, maybe even replace him in the starting lineup.
Might be a few more Aussies in the squad than the gaffer wants though!
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Post by htafctaunton on May 11, 2018 12:59:21 GMT 1
So who out of the relegation clubs players could we make a move forwithout breaking the bank? Here is a list from each of the clubs West Brom Brunt (Free) Rondon Dawson Hegazi Burke Phillips Rodriguez Stoke Shawcross Allen Berahino (could he be given a lifeline) Choupo moting Wimmer Ireland (Free) Swansea Montero Dyer Routledge Ki (Free) Fer Carroll The reason I haven’t included the obvious choices like butland Shaqiri Mawson etc is because I believe bigger clubs will be in for them in England and abroad. Also this is not players I would bring in just a few players who realistically would be available to us. Burke.(out of those).
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Post by Malvin K on May 11, 2018 13:09:59 GMT 1
Looking at wingers, a few we could consider are
Leonardo Bittencourt (FC Koln)-will surely be looking for a move as Koln have been relegated. Worked with Wagner previously at Dortmund II, has been linked with several premiership teams in recent years.
Alireza Jahanbakhsh (AZ)-top scorer in the Eredivisie with 21 goals and 12 assists as a winger. Alternatively Steven Berghuis (Feyenoord) has had a great season with 18 goals and 12 assist from the wing, didn't really get a chance at Watford, not sure why that was ?
Mohammed Elyounoussi (FC Basel)-we've already been linked with him in the papers, would cost 17m or so apparently.
Benfica have several wingers that have been linked with moves to the premier league that might be worth a shout, one of Rafa Silva, Andrija Zivkovic, Franco Cervi.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on May 11, 2018 14:05:46 GMT 1
We should go after players who don’t play for counties represented in the World Cup. Whilst everyone’s waiting to start their scouting mission and fighting over the same players, we can get our business done and have players fresh and well rested for pre season.
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Post by 4 head on May 11, 2018 14:06:16 GMT 1
Always liked Joe Allen, would be a fairly cheap option now Stoke have been relegated. I'd imagine he would like to be playing prem football. Is great at moving the ball around quickly, has a good touch and is comfortable with the ball at his feet. Think we need a few more players with the confidence and ability to hold onto the ball/take people on as will help relieve the pressure on defence.
Think this is also why we need 2 new wingers for next season.
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 11, 2018 14:17:47 GMT 1
Always liked Joe Allen, would be a fairly cheap option now Stoke have been relegated. I'd imagine he would like to be playing prem football. Is great at moving the ball around quickly, has a good touch and is comfortable with the ball at his feet. Think we need a few more players with the confidence and ability to hold onto the ball/take people on as will help relieve the pressure on defence. Think this is also why we need 2 new wingers for next season. Would be great in the formation employed in the last two games.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on May 11, 2018 14:41:43 GMT 1
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Post by jonny5 on May 11, 2018 14:51:32 GMT 1
I'd stay clear of Izzy Brown until he gets game time under his belt, had a very stop start season, we can't risk him with the size of squad we operate with.
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Post by burnleyfan1882 on May 11, 2018 15:42:13 GMT 1
Firstly, Wouldn't you be better signing a defensive midfielder like we did with Jack Cork?
It now means our defence is very solid most of the time and only Arsenal did the double over us.
We've stopped conceding goals to the point of being one of the best teams at keeping clean sheets and it's made our life far easier in the Prem.
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Post by mykindatown on May 11, 2018 15:52:24 GMT 1
Needs to be merged with new pinned post surely
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Post by pilks123 on May 11, 2018 15:53:26 GMT 1
Maybe revisit the Lewis Holtby rumour, Hamburger SV are looking like getting relegated. Might get him on the cheap
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 13:11:06 GMT 1
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Post by palaceman42 on May 14, 2018 13:18:19 GMT 1
Clearly he has got some level of skill and ability, but often doesn't perform to that level - I've seen him described as a MotD player, much like Bolasie was when we had him. I also get the impression he could be a bit disruptive in the dressing room, for no reason whatsoever.
£12m though would be a reasonable price for him, but depends what he does to a team dynamic. I'd rather we paid double for RLC (if that's even a possibility).
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on May 14, 2018 13:28:52 GMT 1
Clearly he has got some level of skill and ability, but often doesn't perform to that level - I've seen him described as a MotD player, much like Bolasie was when we had him. I also get the impression he could be a bit disruptive in the dressing room, for no reason whatsoever.
£12m though would be a reasonable price for him, but depends what he does to a team dynamic. I'd rather we paid double for RLC (if that's even a possibility).
This could have something to do with it www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/03/31/xherdan-shaqiri-lack-quality-stoke-feeling-even-ronaldinho-could/"Here at Stoke I cannot exert too much influence, simply because there is a lack of quality around me.
“I cannot just down tools but it would take something extreme for Stoke in the transfer market this summer to revive my enthusiasm.”
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 13:32:45 GMT 1
Clearly he has got some level of skill and ability, but often doesn't perform to that level - I've seen him described as a MotD player, much like Bolasie was when we had him. I also get the impression he could be a bit disruptive in the dressing room, for no reason whatsoever.
£12m though would be a reasonable price for him, but depends what he does to a team dynamic. I'd rather we paid double for RLC (if that's even a possibility).
Ruben Loftus-Cheek - seriously ?
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Post by niggyg on May 14, 2018 13:39:49 GMT 1
Firstly, Wouldn't you be better signing a defensive midfielder like we did with Jack Cork? It now means our defence is very solid most of the time and only Arsenal did the double over us. We've stopped conceding goals to the point of being one of the best teams at keeping clean sheets and it's made our life far easier in the Prem. And West Ham, Liverpool, Everton, Tottenham.... but aside from them.
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Post by mids on May 14, 2018 13:41:27 GMT 1
As posted on page 7 of the Summer transfer thread..... "Xherdan Shaqiri. Good mates with Hadergjonaj. Already been to the players' barbers of choice, Cams Cuts, in town."
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Post by palaceman42 on May 14, 2018 13:42:47 GMT 1
Clearly he has got some level of skill and ability, but often doesn't perform to that level - I've seen him described as a MotD player, much like Bolasie was when we had him. I also get the impression he could be a bit disruptive in the dressing room, for no reason whatsoever.
£12m though would be a reasonable price for him, but depends what he does to a team dynamic. I'd rather we paid double for RLC (if that's even a possibility).
Ruben Loftus-Cheek - seriously ? Do you mean the player or the fee? He's been superb for us of late, and one of the reasons we dragged ourselves clear. To be fair, if that was our entire budget I think I'd be a bit concerned, given the number of players we need to bring in, but if there was budget for it then it would be a no-brainer for us. A lot of it will come down to Chelsea though, and the Conte situation won't help negotiations go any quicker, so I hope we have other targets as well.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 14:13:14 GMT 1
I doubt Chelsea will be daft enough to loan RLC out again when he is obviously far better than Bakayoko.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on May 14, 2018 14:18:52 GMT 1
West Ham and Palace are an agents dream. Especially West Ham, if a player is linked with them enough times in the paper then Gold and Sullivan will convince themselves it’s a good idea.
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Post by Porrohman on May 14, 2018 14:31:23 GMT 1
In (5 players) New left back New centre half New centre mid New number 10 New wide man! Out Hef Malone - not good enough Williams - need better quality than him Quaner Vlp Add Ince to that list as well And Kachunga
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 14:35:39 GMT 1
I'd stay clear of Izzy Brown until he gets game time under his belt, had a very stop start season, we can't risk him with the size of squad we operate with. When we loaned Palmer this season we loaned the wrong un. Izzy would have been a great fit for us. Went to Brighton where they played him out of position but he still on occasion looked the biz.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on May 14, 2018 14:51:54 GMT 1
Ya Ya Toure. Hopefully
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